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Hockey Argument at GSoM

I'd like all of you to get in on this discussion

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To me, this is incredible, a blogger on this SBNation set that has always been strong, gets his personal and downright racist feelings in on a sport that he doesn't even cover and admittedly knows very little about. I'd like it if the Sharks fans get in on this argument, as it is getting very heated and in need of more cemented and knowledgeable people.

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Hah.

I would, but I get instabanned whenever I interject anything over there.

How’s it going, btw, jtoj?

by Amoc on Dec 10, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

he's getting grilled

and trying to change the subject.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 10, 2008 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I assume you’re referring to Atma. Yeah, he has a tendency to do that.

by Amoc on Dec 10, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd drop 2 cents, BUT

It’s really hard to argue with someone who is willing to make such an errant remark after admitting total ignorance on the subject. It’s a whacked out paradox not worth debating.

“Never argue with an idiot – they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Dec 10, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm trying to get him

kicked out, Atma’s been doing this since pre-SB days.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 10, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Doing what exactly

I’m not familiar with this Atma character

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Dec 10, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Race baiting, essentially.

by Amoc on Dec 10, 2008 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Go go hockey fans!!!

WE NEED REINFORCEMENTS!!!

I should go ALL CAPS on them and see how they handle that

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Dec 10, 2008 5:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the heads up jtoj

I’ve been dropping in my two cents over the course of the day- it’s ridiculous that someone would make such a remark.

In a fanpost nonetheless.

Fear The Fin: Where the second round is overrated.

by Mr. Plank on Dec 10, 2008 5:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

make that a fanshot*.

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 10, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

I’m probably gonna stop going there.
More time here. Again, it’s not his first time.

By a Mod nonetheless too.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 10, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From what I can tell, he seems to be the “manager” of the blog as well, or at least splits the duties with another person. Not that an inflammatory remark from an author or a reader would be any more acceptable, but I feel like his title carries more responsibility.

Fear The Fin: Where the second round is overrated.

by Mr. Plank on Dec 10, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

It’s more coming from someone in his title.
and no one is agreeing with him.
yet he still thinks he’s right.
it’s quite incredible
again, he has history.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 10, 2008 6:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A history of this sort of behavior? Yikes.

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 10, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

pre - SB Nation days

I called him out for his overlove for yi Jianlian and he responded something like what happened today about race being involved and then was promptly banned.
Dunno why I even came back, I guess because I heard that they were going to change writers or something.
I’m done there now though, too much BS.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 10, 2008 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

My dashboard shows that you were warned today by GSOM.

I wonder if this has any correlation to you disagreeing with the author. Hmmmm.

Fear The Fin: Where the second round is overrated.

by Mr. Plank on Dec 10, 2008 6:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't be surprised

there was a similar fanpost by some random guy that got taken down because he questioned the overhype and overeagerness of the Mods’ love for Yao Ming and Yi Jianlian, both players that have nothing to do with the Warriors.
So it got taken down but not before I said something to the likes that it wouldn’t surprise me if it got taken down because of who’s in charge.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 10, 2008 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

summation

Fighting is tolerated in hockey, not basketball.

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Dec 10, 2008 6:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So

He deletes my posts and bans me for foul language.
What a chump.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 11, 2008 11:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Meh, it's probably for the best

His initial post was the bait, and the entire thread was a trap, and you would have likely gnawed your arm off trying to relinquish the nonsense

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Dec 11, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but

it looks like he gets the final word, unfairly.
I don’t care anymore though.
Ignorance prevails.
It’s no different than the modern world.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 11, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re a modern-day Sean Avery :)

http://www.battleofcali.com/

by Earl Sleek on Dec 11, 2008 5:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

I’m cool with that!
Here I come, Elisha.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 11, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d take your sloppy seconds on that.

Fear The Fin: Where the second round is overrated.

by Mr. Plank on Dec 11, 2008 8:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take 3rds, 4ths

5ths, 6ths………..

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 12, 2008 1:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

idunno723

Thanks for continuing the fight.
 I’ve been in touch with some superiors too.
This can’t fly freely.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 12, 2008 1:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Entire Premise Was Ridiculous

And I made a point of e-mailing all of SBN with that opinion because the entire thought behind that fanshot was beyond stupid. Like Thresher’s quotation said, I can’t be bothered to argue with people that express their ignorance but still feel validated in giving an opinion. In my mind that’s a huge problem in the media.

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by PPP on Dec 12, 2008 7:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

:D

Hahahaha. Bonus.

by Amoc on Dec 12, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha excellent

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 12, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
It’s a family show and that’s integral to the character of this community.

Irony much?

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 12, 2008 10:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

I find it pretty hilarious that now he just would outwardly chop down an entire other community.

He’s an idiot, so lets just leave it there. He will troll until he can no longer troll it up.

by Amoc on Dec 12, 2008 11:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If true, I think it's unfortunate

he was essentially voted off the SBnation island, only to be brought back for monetary reasons

In the end, I find it extremely irresponsible for a prominent SBnation manager to openly denounce an entire League and its fanbase – especially one that’s in the process of growing its presence within the community. I also considered contacting the admins to air a few grievances, though I’m sure Blez and company are already well aware of the situation

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Dec 12, 2008 1:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Blez is aware

but hasn’t done anything about it, simply debating with him nicely won’t resolve this.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 12, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I get that GSoM is very family-oriented, but trying to “PC-ify” everything that may seem to have racist overtones and arguing against it is the wrong way to go. The point of basketball is to put the ball in the hoop with a minimum of body contact, and anything greater than a body bump will receive a flagrant foul/technical. The point of hockey is to put the puck in the net, where checking is allowed, and fighting (to a point) as an effect of that rule. The allowance and disallowance of fighting in each sport isn’t an unfair double standard; they are the consequences of the respective rules of the NBA and NHL, which were not made with “black vs white” or racial intentions in mind.

We (as in society) go “OMG, WTH?” when we see basketball fights because pushing and shoving, let alone fighting, is not part of the game. We don’t necessarily have the same reaction when we see hockey fights because that is the consequence of checking, which is part of the game. Associating this with the demographics of each league and fanbase and accusing people of being racist in that regard is befuddling.

Anyways, so much for the welcome for Battle of California. I’m sure those writers appreciate being indirectly accused of racist overtones by their fellow SBN bloggers. It’s funny, because I don’t recall Atma essentially race-baiting way back when (even before the Yi Jianlian fiascos).

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Dec 12, 2008 4:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don't know

As jtoj stated above, he thinks Blez is aware of the problem but hasn’t done anything (as of yet). Considering the number of people who have sent emails to the SBN higher-ups about this, something will probably be done sooner or later.

It’s unfortunate; GSoM used to be a really good place to discuss the Warriors and basketball in general without many flare-ups.

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Dec 12, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have personally been in contect with Blez

and his general thought is that Atma’s making himself look dumb and that he’s entitled to his opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
and I think Blez’s leaving it at that, which is wrong.
 If enough people email him, I’m sure he’ll be called to action.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 12, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hiero y'all!

And yeah, Murs for president for sure. Big ups on the pic and sig jtoj.

by sharks on Dec 12, 2008 7:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

straight straight!

good music prevails.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Dec 12, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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