A Sharks fan's response to the backlash - and Puck Daddy
Don't get me wrong: I love Puck Daddy (aka Greg Wyshynski of Yahoo Sports). I find myself mindlessly clicking away on the hour, every hour, to see what he and his army of trolls have dug up for the mutual benefit of puckheads everywhere. Usually I'm amused... but today I felt a tad belittled. But more on that in a second - first, I have something to get off my chest... a battle cry of sorts, if you will. Read on for more.
I probably don't need to do this introduction, but I feel inspired under the circumstances - so here goes my diatribe.
The Sharks are my team, from my town - I root for them through thick and thin, and I don't need excuses. I don't ever consider booing my own player, no matter how awful he is (nope, not even Alexei Semenov... because a groan is not the same as a boo). San Jose did not collectively boo Patrick Marleau when his plus/minus hit negative 20 last season. Wish I could say the same for Flyers fans - I was on hand to witness Philadelphia booing their own Daniel Briere (who had a plus/minus worse than Marleau at one point) every time he touched the puck.
Yes, I'm digressing slightly - but I bring this up to say that no matter how rough it gets, or how jaw-droppingly awesome it might be (like, um, now), I'm a Sharks fan through thick and thin. And I know I've got impressive company, in this most impressive of years.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm feeling a bit annoyed at the inevitable backlash that the Sharks fans have faced for their team's meteoric rise. "Second-round choke artists" - yeah, heard that one already. "The Stanley Cup isn't won in December" - thanks for the reminder, PPP. "Wait until the post-season" - can't hardly!
Sharks fans, though the season is far from over, be content to live it up now, because we'll inevitably have some lean years down the pipe, as in the past, and maybe even sooner than we'd like to think. And that's fine - the Bay Area has experience with this sort of thing already (see - 49ers, Raiders, Giants and A's). The lean years are meant to test the mettle of fans' hearts, to speak nothing of the loyalty of our pocketbooks. This year, thank heavens, is not a lean year.
There - that's off my chest. Now, on to business.
Wysh's post today needlessly couples an analysis of the modern points system (originally written in the New York Times, and specifically in reference to the NY Rangers) with the San Jose Sharks. Heck, Wysh even put in the obligatory Nabokov picture, despite the fact that his article was mostly about the Rangers and the virtue of a 3-point system (read the second to last paragraph of the original NY Times post to understand more about that "solution" to the NHL's point-woes).
Perhaps it's a case of editorial mismanagement (sorry, Greg), but he inexplicably puts the following phrase in the middle of all the hubbub:
Take the San Jose Sharks march to regular season history: with last night's shootout win over the Los Angeles Kings, they're now 5-2 in overtime and 3-0 in the shootout. That's certainly a footnote to history, no?
First of all, is Greg complimenting our guys, or denigrating them? Even a look at the original context didn't help me much, but feel free to try.
Secondly, that's all he mentions about the Sharks. Now, I love a good non-sequitor as much as the next ADHD fellow, but c'mon - this is backlash season, and everyone's a-hunting. "25-3-2? Silly Sharks fan - don't you realize that doesn't mean what it used to pre-Bettman? Your totals are obviously inflated due to the O.T. wins! Yadda yadda yadda."
I need to give credit where credit is due: a certain "Sobu" (Sharks fan, naturally) left a nice comment that mathematically indicates how awesome the Sharks have been doing, in any NHL era:
If this were 1995, the Sharks would be 22-5-3 for a total of 47 points in 30 games. That's a projected 128.5 point total for the end of the season. Now, I'm no mathematician, but 128.5 is a big number.
Where are you, Sobu? Can we hug you? Er, um, do a teal-colored-chest bump?
The bigger point at hand - the Sharks would still have a "legitimate" 47 points in 30 games, instead of 52. Now, I'M no mathematician, but that's pretty darn spiffy, in any age of hockey.
So, be it 52 or 47 points in 30 games, I'm unabashedly going to sing the praises of my our Sharks, without arrogance (because we will get our arses handed to us eventually, if not ultimately), but also without false modesty.
Who's (not "whose") with me?
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I don't know how somebody could argue...
against the 3-2-1-0 points system rather than the 2-2-1-0 points system, it just makes sense. Don’t think of all that is being said about the Sharks as negative, the Sharks being good makes people want to see how good they are compared to other teams, that is a good thing not a bad one.
by mattman on Dec 16, 2008 6:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not opposed to the 3-2-1-0 system. I just think the new point system is a lame reason to denigrade the Sharks – every other team has the same opportunity to do as well, or better.
Fear the Fin: Because our day jobs are overrated.
by Mr. K. on Dec 16, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3-2-1-0 has the wonderful symmetry, but it obliterates any historical comparisons. Maybe comparing the Sharks point totals to 1930 isn’t exact, but if you get 3 pts for a regulation win, only math geeks like me would be able to write a program to do that comparison. Also the commonly-known thresholds for playoffs would be shot- now you’d need 110 points to get in, or 115, or whatever.
by mepex on Dec 17, 2008 8:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
But really, who gives a damn what anyone else thinks?
The Sharks are playing well. Historic starts, no matter how people manage to twist the numbers, are being thrown alongside San Jose’s name. We’re managing to win nailbiters, come from behinders (heh that sounds funny), dominaters (cut it out man!) and any other way possible.
The fact is, it’s December. We’re going to hit a losing streak. We’re going to face some adversity. We’re not going to be able to truly see anything until the playoffs roll around. What’s wrong with that?
If it’s us against the world, isn’t that even more appealing?
Go Sharks.
Fear The Fin: Where The Second Round Is Overrated
by Mr. Plank on Dec 16, 2008 6:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We’re managing to win nailbiters, come from behinders (heh that sounds funny), dominaters (cut it out man!) and any other way possible.
Now if we could just figure out how to win the reach-arounders, we’d be set. I blame Teemu.
The fact is, it’s December. We’re going to hit a losing streak.
We already did, November 9th and 11th. :)
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Dec 16, 2008 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now if we could just figure out how to win the reach-arounders, we’d be set. I blame Teemu.
I think he was scared of the “avalanche” that would follow.
Fear The Fin: Where The Second Round Is Overrated
by Mr. Plank on Dec 16, 2008 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny that everyone is screaming about the postseason now, except for the Sharks. We’ll just keep beating the shit out of everyone and we’ll deal with the playoffs at the appropriate time. You know, when they actually start.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Dec 16, 2008 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I just think
it’s silly that Wysh’s post seems to be about the Sharks (Nabby’s stud photo), when it’s more about the point system. The article seems focused on the connection to the Rangers’ points total… the Sharks get a token reference, but Nabby’s photo drew me in, drawing my ire.
Fear the Fin: Because our day jobs are overrated.
by Mr. K. on Dec 16, 2008 7:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I agree. The East Coast media probably has a quota to fulfill (in terms of mentioning West Coast teams), so that might be the reason why Nabby was in there*.
* Sarcasm
I guess my view is that I agree that the current point system is bonkers. He doesn’t seem to be bashing the Sharks play, and just states the fact that comparing this year’s records to those in the past has some issues because of the various point allocation methods. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.
I mentioned this earlier on From The Rink, so I guess I’ll just c&p for the sake of conversation. It’s a little dated, but it doesn’t change the basic thought process:
I have no data to back this up (possibly you do James?), but I would venture to say the league is a lot better from top to bottom now, compared to the days of yore. Salary cap restrictions, wider spread talent from all corners of the globe, and better coaches/conditioning make it much more difficult for a specific team to dominate opposing teams every single night. Something the Sharks have made a habit of doing.
Fear The Fin: Where The Second Round Is Overrated
by Mr. Plank on Dec 16, 2008 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to confess...
The comments in Wysh’s post irked me. Accusations of bandwagoners, especially. One person even lumped SJ in with the teams that should be relocated or contracted (Phoenix, Florida, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, and (hehe) Anaheim). Almost undoubtedly a Canadian that isn’t familiar with the Sharks’ fan base. As I noted in a comment of my own, the Sharks had better attendance last year (both in capacity % and in sheer volume) than the Edmonton Oilers… a Canadian team, of course.
Fear the Fin: Because our day jobs are overrated.
by Mr. K. on Dec 16, 2008 7:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And apparently
<a href=“http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/teams/story.html?id=1082702&add_feed_url=http3A2F%2F”http://www.faceoff.com" target="_blank">www.faceoff.com2Fscripts2FSP6Atom.aspx3Fid3D898337" >Bettman is saying the Oilers must have a new arena for the future of the franchise… is he trying to precipitate a relocation to, ahem, sunnier climes? (of course I don’t favor this myself)
In unrelated news, the Mounties regret having to foil an assassination plot against the NHL Commissioner…
Fear the Fin: Because our day jobs are overrated.
by Mr. K. on Dec 16, 2008 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah crap
Here’s <a href=“http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/teams/story.html?id=1082702&add_feed_url=http3A2F%2F”http://www.faceoff.com" target="_blank">www.faceoff.com2Fscripts2FSP6Atom.aspx3Fid3D898337" >the link.
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by Mr. K. on Dec 16, 2008 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DAMMIT!!!
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by Mr. K. on Dec 16, 2008 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Third try...
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by Mr. K. on Dec 16, 2008 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The reality is that none of this stuff really matters...
people can talk about how great of a start the Sharks are having or try and criticize them for the current point system. Is it the sharks fault they play in this current system? No, they are just going out every night and competing and winning. Historic (or not) this doesn’t matter until the playoffs get going and we can hang tough. I’m glad we are starting off so great, but there is also a lot to be said for peaking at the right time. So historic or not who cares.
by mattman on Dec 16, 2008 8:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have to wonder
why people can’t just sit back and let us Sharks fans enjoy the ride.
by CTGray on Dec 17, 2008 10:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I could care less about what people outside of SJ/Bay Area think. Especially those crazy old Canadian kooks. They are always bitter, and they have reason to be. Quick, name the last Canadian team to win the Cup…you gotta go all the way back to the season of ‘92-’93 when Montreal defeated Melrose and the Kings. And we all remember that like it was yesterday, right? When we were just a bunch of baby Sharks swimming around the Cow Palace.
Anyway, as for this season, I am just going to enjoy it for what it is. We are playing great hockey right now. And I call it great, because we are winning every kind of game. And we are doing this all while adjusting to a new system, new teammates/coaches and occasional injuries. I don’t think that even our current record-setting pace shows the true potential of this team, this year. And I don’t need somebody thousands of miles away to justify that.
Nobody outside of San Jose or the Bay Area is going to give us the respect we deserve until we win a Cup. So I say until we win a Cup, I think we should just enjoy this season amongst ourselves.
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Dec 17, 2008 10:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have this feeling that winning the Cup would do nothing to reduce the internets’ ire for the Sharks.
by CTGray on Dec 17, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t mind being proven wrong, though
by CTGray on Dec 17, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Puck Daddy
is gonna kiss up to the Sharks now!
"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man
by idunno723 on Dec 17, 2008 2:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I need some help w/ history.
I’m trying to figure out the scoring formats used throughout history. This is what I’ve come up with. Can you let me know if I’ve got anything wrong? I’m using Sharks current record as the examples.
Sharks are currently 5-2 in overtime and 3-0 in the shootout.
Currently <52 points>
(2005-06 Shoot Out introduced – Ties after OT become Win or OTL)
25-3-2
W-L-OTL
1999-00 : 2003-04 <49 points>
(1999-2000 seaon, OTL introduced – guaranteed point)
22-3-3-2
W-L-T-OTL
1983-84 : 1998-99 <47 points>
(1983-84 season, 5 minute 4v4 OT introduced – No point for OT loss)
22-5-3
W-L-T
WWII – 1984 <44 points?>
(Pre WWII had 10 min 5v5 OT)
(No OT – Sharks have 10 Ties after regulation)
17-3-10
W-L-T
by WillR on Dec 17, 2008 2:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Formatting correction:
*WWII : 1982-83 <44 points?>
by WillR on Dec 17, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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