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Sharks Gameday: Three Keys To A Three Game Road Trip

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I came to this screen expecting to write a lot about the upcoming game but my fingers do not seem to be cooperating; this will be relatively short and to the point. Instead of exposing you to paragraphs chock full of fleshed-out ideas, here are three "Keys To The Week". Feel free to add your own in the comments, while slyly taking jabs at my lack of motivation before the first game of a road trip that will be an excellent test of where the Sharks stand in regards to the rest of the Western Conference.

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1) Improve their five on five play. I've sort of beat this to death over the last couple weeks, but it's the one area where the Sharks need to improve. Special teams have been acceptable, goaltending has been very good, but without a solid presence at even strength, the Sharks current trend of squeaking out wins will lean towards the loss column against playoff-bound teams. Improvement in this category is essential to their success.

2) Can Evgeni Nabokov have a solid streak of games on the road? Current year totals have him at a .889 SV% with a 3.13 GAA, something that needs to be addressed in Calgary tonight. Nabby has been reverted to last season's form as of late, but a set of big games will test his ability away from The Tank. If Nabby is his usual self, there is no stopping the Sharks.

3) Third line's "promise" in terms of scoring production. The swing through Canada will most likely feature Mike Grier Synthesizer Overdrive (h/t to Senor K), Goc With A Glock, and The Cheechoo Train. On paper this is just about as deadly a third line as they come. The defensive responsibility is there- Cheech and Grier are able to grind in the corners, and the line as a whole is very good at supporting down low in the defensive zone.

The offense is starting to come along as well- Cheech has been getting on the board lately, Grier had a nice pair of goals against the Isles, and Goc has looked like the player we originally drafted him to be- a quick skater that has good vision with the puck on his stick. The Sharks success, while not completely contingent upon this line's offensive production, will benefit immensely with scoring chances being generated.

If Goc and Cheech can develop some chemistry, watch out world.

[Update 1:45 PM]: A fourth key can be found here, courtesy of SJStoneS via the Fanpost function that is sure to put me out of work soon.

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Those are my three big keys to winning tonight, as well as this week. Some other notables would have to include Brad Staubitz's performance (the Flames will be rough; we need someone to "gently" remind them that the liberties of last postseason will not be tolerated) and Joe Thornton's willingness to shoot the darned puck more (currently third on the team in shooting percentage, and fairly predictable when driving the net in the low slot- he's going to dish it, and the pass will probably get broken up). Also, dealing with the brutal Canadian cold may be a factor, but half our guys are from the country anyways. That's a convenient talking point more than anything else.

We'll revisit these throughout this week.

Prediction: Sharks saddle up, and ride the horses out of Pengrowth with a 4-2 win. Goals by Marleau, Thornton, Goc and Blake. All come at even strength and I lose weeks worth of future material to write about. Damn mid-season writing difficulties.

 

Go Sharks.

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As a complete aside, Team Canada won the WJC last night. That makes five golds in a row. Anybody grab any of the action on the telly? I only saw the US and Russian matchups, both excellent games.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 1:18 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need

A Staubitz on SPG

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 4:10 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On

Sharks’ SPG admin added Staubitz to the roster around 4pm Eastern.

Pick SPG for your chance to win probably nothing.

by xiix on Jan 6, 2009 1:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(does a slight bow)

By the way guys, give a huge thank you to Erin Gary for setting up and running the whole SPG site. Anytime you see that xiix sn around here inundate her with compliments. I mean it. Otherwise we’re kicking you out of the contest ;)

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 1:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You catch on quick ;)

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 1:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks xiix!

SPG’s good stuff.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 1:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks Erin!

I mean it!
(how’s that Plank?)

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Solid. Just don’t break your hip jumping out of your seat to congratulate her.

Sorry, had to go there ;)

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 2:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THANK YOU ERIN!!!

'It aint over till the fat lady sings." - Yogi Berra

by serrapadre716 on Jan 6, 2009 5:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank god for the 7:00 start...

My work has really been getting in the way of my hockey watching. Refreshing scores on the phone just doesn’t cut it.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 5:09 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

that means a 10 pm start for me. Still, I’ll get to bed by 1, which is better than 1:30 or 2.

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 5:21 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow.

It’s not even like I don’t read those blogs every day. Thanks for the heads up, i just c&p the thread from the previous road/home game and must have missed it.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 1:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

Now that I’m looking at the info again, I think the game is also on CSN Bay Area

by Section223 on Jan 6, 2009 1:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SONUVABITCH!

Thanks again for keeping me on my toes- I guess I wasn’t lying about the midseason writing difficulties. The 40th to 50th game is really when I have historically been “least excited” to watch the Sharks*. It’s hard work being a blogger!

*Completely relative- I’m still probably more excited to watch the Sharks during this span than attempt to pursue a social life of any kind.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 1:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh

Social lives are overrated. Especially if you socialize with non-hockey fans. They just don’t get it.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 2:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That should be

my new signature line. Damn! Wish I’d thought of it first!

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fear the Fin

where social lives are overrated

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 2:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But you

gotta add the part about socializing with non hockey fans

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh, yeah.

You’re welcome to it if you want it. I’ll stick with my Bakes quote.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 2:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I might just do that

The Bakes quote is AWESOME…

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what happens

when he gets bored during games. Writes things down and has Dan read it on the air after the game.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 2:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fear The Fin: Hockey’s answer to online dating

Match.com has met it’s, er, match!

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 2:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only problem

with that (for me at least) is someone of the opposite sex my age on here. I’ll just stick with Southern Bell. I’ve taught her right about hockey and don’t want to start over.

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mr. plank you are just lucky your girlfriend puts up with your hockey obsession :)

Fear the Fin: Stealing my boyfriend multiple times a week.

by Chelsea. on Jan 6, 2009 5:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’s funny … I actually tell guys that I’m potentially looking to date, that if they can’t understand my hockey addiction, they need to move on … yes, I say it a bit nicer. not much nicer, but a bit.

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 5:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If guys can plan their schedules around football, we can plan ours around hockey

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by CTGray on Jan 6, 2009 5:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as if we don’t have enough to plan our schedules around as it is … (yeah, like guys on here want us to gross them out – but if Rudy can talk bout man cock on battleofcali, I can be semi-whatever as well).

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 6:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wild at Bruins on Versus tonight at 4, Sharks at 7, that’s six hours of hockey tonight!

by senor_k on Jan 6, 2009 11:01 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probable lines

courtesy of WTC.

Michalek-Thornton-Cheechoo
Clowe-Marleau-Setoguchi
Plihal-Pavelski-Grier
Staubitz-Goc-Semenov

TM decided to mix things up. Murray’s also supposed to be back tonight.
So the Semenov Experiment continues…

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 12:58 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF?

That’s a little weird.

Cavanagh hasn’t been sent down yet, I’m wondering why they are even going to try with Semenov again.

And Pavelski on line 3? Huh? Also, why break up the Goc-Grier-Cheechoo line, which played so well last game? Same with line 2… the great puck movement on that line made the first goal Saturday’s game possible.

I know they are probably just trying some new combos, but this is really unexpected.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 1:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mid-season experiment

I dunno, I kinda like the idea. I’d rather have TM be proactive and shuffle things up now and know what works and what doesn’t, than be reactive and shuffle things up in May or June and hope for the best.

I think Semenov sees more than 4 minutes tonight

by Section223 on Jan 6, 2009 1:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

It’s definitely an odd time to start mixing up the lines. But I agree with TM it’s better to find out if they can still play mixed up like that now than come playoff time.

I’d guess Semenov over Cavanagh is just to have an extra tough guy out there in case Calgary decides to start taking liberties.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 1:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s see how it plays out I guess? Agree with Section223, better now than never.

But are we really going to see Semenov at a forward spot in March/April? I guess we don’t know for sure until we see more…….

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 2:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With Lemeiux

waiting to come up? I don’t think so.

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Roenick and Mitchell as well.

Valentine = Truth Master.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 2:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Truthmaster?

Hell, I forgot about Jeremy and Torrey. How’s that for truth?

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, you admitted the “truth” that you forget them. I think that speaks a lot for itself.

Plus, even if we only had Lemeiux to add to our current lines, I would bet Semenov is the odd man out (at least right now- this experiment might pay out some dividends).

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 2:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I have to admit

as much as I have been bashing Semenov…the experiment last game wasn’t anything like I expected. He did okay. I mean, he didn’t score or assist on any Isles goals against us.
Okay…sorry…Really, he did okay.

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So....

What’re the odds on Staubitz fighting before Semenov?

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the risk of sounding like a broken record

Don’t be surprised if Bouch starts tonite. TM did this a while back and surprised us. Plus Nabby’s record against Calgary isn’t that great, especially compared with Bouch’s.

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:35 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should qualify that

Nabby has a better career record. But Bouch has beat them this year, and his GAA and PCT are slightly better.

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 2:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really thought they’d have Boucher start against the Islanders but nope. We’ll see what TM does tonight.

Anyone going to meet Boucher at the Sharks store on the 12th?

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by CTGray on Jan 6, 2009 3:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reminder

Wild @ Bruins underway on Versus

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 4:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm on it

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 4:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STREAM

Go here and then click “San Jose Sharks at Calgary Flames”

You have to do that now because recently if I just give you the direct link to the stream, it usually does not work

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Jan 6, 2009 4:39 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it must be your fault

'It aint over till the fat lady sings." - Yogi Berra

by serrapadre716 on Jan 6, 2009 5:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

scratch that

Click “Chicago Blackhawks at Phoenix Coyotes”
It’s actually the Sharks game

for some reason if you click Sharks it will so king vs. ducks.

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Jan 6, 2009 7:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bet battleofcali had something to do with that

Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?

by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

turn that so

into a “show”

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Jan 6, 2009 7:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey guys and gals

I really don’t have anything to say really…

by KindaFantastic on Jan 6, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

funny

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 5:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do I detect some sarcasm?

by KindaFantastic on Jan 6, 2009 5:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never … well not never … but not that time :)

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 6:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

at least you said it

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 5:05 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True that

I’m just trying to get the ideas flowing. It’s not really working

by KindaFantastic on Jan 6, 2009 5:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What up everyone, havn’t had internet access in some time. Saw that we are like 6-4 over our last ten games and that Boston caught up to us in points, what the hell? Please tell me what has been going on with our boys!

I can haz homerunz!

by jbowl on Jan 6, 2009 5:47 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Sharks just hit their version of a “slump” is all. Every team goes through one at some point in the season or another, and ours just happened to occur now.

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 6, 2009 5:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

very short-lived I’m sure tho

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 6:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly.

What the Sharks are going through is pretty light, as far as slumps go.

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 6, 2009 6:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After the atrocity that was the 1st period

I have come to regret my words.

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 6, 2009 7:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who's scratched tonight?

can anyone let me know? maybe even let me know where to find it cause im not gonna look and then people wont have to tell me every game

by CoreyMulhair on Jan 6, 2009 6:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't feel so bad about the loss to Buster & the Wild

Seeing as they shutout the B’s in regulation, 1-0.

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

At the B’s, no less. That made me happy. Now we’re one point up and two games in hand. We can regain our much larger lead yet!

by mymclife on Jan 6, 2009 6:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

can’t watch this game, have class.
Good luck Sharkies.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Jan 6, 2009 6:26 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

okay you know you're sick when

you go to type the url fearthefin and accidentally type fearthefan. are we that scary?

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 6:49 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching VS

If I heard right, with a SO win over the Flyers, the Caps are 18-1-1 at home and are now 2nd in the East

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 6:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GO SHARKS!!!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To day it will be

Go Sharks Go!

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Jan 6, 2009 7:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here!

but doing homework

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Jan 6, 2009 7:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Iggy is playing his 900th career game tonight. One of my favorite non-Sharks player.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

number 900 already? wow

great guy, great player

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 7:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New Line Combos

I wasn’t wild about the idea when I first heard TMac was shaking things up, but after hearing the reasoning given by Drew and Randy, I’m okay with it. Better to find out now how guys gel with other players rather than late in the season when you’re forced to mix things up thanks to injuries.

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah but they are being out-played and so I’m not so keen on it right now … ugh!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya this is pretty bad so far…I can only hope that they pick it up

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 7:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Chicken Little, we’re five minutes in ;)

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well there is that … but I’m always on the verge of a panic attack when they are playing … :)

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's still early

I’ll give ’em a few more minutes… =)

by Section223 on Jan 6, 2009 7:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just keep telling yourself

“better now, than in the playoffs”
“better now, than in the playoffs”
“better now, than in the playoffs”

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 7:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all bout perspective … need to learn that one … can old dogs learn new tricks?

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes they can, but their old tricks are almost always better. More practice at it. Just sayin’.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uncharacteristic Mistake from Vlasic

Looked like the “Murray Pinch” against St. Louis a couple weeks ago

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About time the Flames scored.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn!!!!!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly, it could be way worse. Good point.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be at next week's vs Flames

woohoo! seems I haven’t been to a game in eons

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:29 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this period has been all Calgary

it was just a matter of time

I just hope the rest of this game doesn’t continue to resemble a Flames PP, otherwise it’s going to be a long night

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 7:29 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For as much as the Flames are dominating, the Saddledome is about as quiet as I have ever heard it. It’s almost surreal.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:34 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UGH!

Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?

by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:34 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ouchers

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Jan 6, 2009 7:34 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say the experiment continues

Todd simply needs to tell the Sharks to get the funk out

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 7:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh boy

I can’t wait until intermission.

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 6, 2009 7:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i guess i don’t have to ask for a WNH option on first SOG now

by mattman on Jan 6, 2009 7:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That Langkow goal was all Ehrhoff, did you guys see that? Completely did not take the stick away.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:38 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McLellan looks like he is going to kill somebody.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

Sharks look better while playing shorthanded than they do playing even strength.

by SpalWizzall on Jan 6, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

YOU JINXED US

"Gotta suck for the other teams. You finally catch the Sharks on an off night and you still lose." -Shark Man

by idunno723 on Jan 6, 2009 7:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Questionable time to throw that in here man, just sayin’ hahaha.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shoot me!!!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh...

WTF!

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I get back from class for this?

I’d have rather sat through another 2 hours of lecture.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know how much it would help, but I’d call a timeout right now, or put in Bouche just to shake things up (none of the goals were really bad goals, but maybe it’ll wake them up)

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Goc and Grier looked good on that last shift. Grasping at any positives I can here…..

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed...

The line combos really aren’t working for me. Why experiment against a motivated, skilled, physical team?

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 7:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But when you completely rework the lines, you kill any chemistry you have built. Why start against a team like Calgary?!

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hindsight is 20/20 though- let’s be honest with ourselves, it’s not as if the Sharks were really rolling coming into this game. The lines work and we’re throwing praise around here like no other.

Now if he doesn’t adapt for the second period, I think he deserves some criticism.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, as coach Todd said, it's all about preparation for the playoffs

If they hope to win the Cup, they need to be ready for just about anything

Which would include injuries/illness, forcing line changes during a tough series

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 7:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe in Todd McLellan

I believe in Todd McLellan
I believe in Todd McLellan
I believe in Todd McLellan

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 7:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because Ron Wilson is behind the bench.

Wait, what? We have a new coach this season? When did that happen?

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

goc and grier,

are the only ones looking good out there and they are also the only ones who normally play together

by mattman on Jan 6, 2009 7:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Couldn’t have come at a better time.

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 6, 2009 7:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was

pretty dismal….WTF?

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope that's what this is

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm,

Interesting observation.

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is a quote that has stuck with me for a long time

Joe Thornton said he’s very protective of his hands, because that’s how he makes his money. Watching this game made me recall that comment. ican’t help but think the Sharks are trying to save their moneymakers lol

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 7:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1st Period Thoughts

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is going to be a multiple beer game

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 7:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

I thought every game was a multiple beer game…

by Section223 on Jan 6, 2009 7:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well... yeah

More than usual. Maybe I’ll just break out the hard stuff.

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 7:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gin and tonics… here I come.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 7:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s a scotch on the rocks night for me.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my eyes

My parents are watching Judge Judy at the moment, so I logged on to Yahoo to follow:

shots on goal
SJ – 4
CALG – 16

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was like 15-0 at one point

go watch judge judy, you’ll see a better defense on that show than by watching the sharks tonight.

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 7:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.

by imovermyhead on Jan 6, 2009 7:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahahaha that’s classic

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they

look slow. confused. out of position constantly, no forwards cycling. it is all because of the line switching.
the forwards look hesitant. d looks fine because they know what is going on.

i really gotta question this move by TM. hope he has some purpose that ultimately vindicates that embarrassing period.

by denver_diaspora on Jan 6, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m more curious to see how they respond to the beating they’ll take from mclellan in the locker room.

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 7:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hope someone steps up and makes an appearance.

except for O’BOYle doing loop-d-loops, not one guy seemed to give a shit.

by denver_diaspora on Jan 6, 2009 7:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait

Did mymclife listen to Enter Sandman today?!

by Section223 on Jan 6, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh god...

Get that girl an iPod now!

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 7:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No fault on my end

I swear, I must have listened to that song about 10 times today.

by mymclife on Jan 6, 2009 7:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

caught the end of the detroit /columbus game. 3-0 detroit.

that makes this look even worse. detroit: for real. right now, big “?” next to SJ.

by denver_diaspora on Jan 6, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s funny- the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just too good a memory

of a certain ottowa team that was the “BEST TEAM IN HISTORY EVER TO PLAY THE GAME” after a hot start and ended up blowing a tire in the first round.

by denver_diaspora on Jan 6, 2009 7:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very true, they blew a tire about halfway through the year, around 40 games in.

Oh shitttt………….

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 7:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And has since completely imploded

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 7:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not very good hockey.

The Sharks just haven’t been playing 60 minutes for quite some time now.

Now Ottawa was an impressive implosion. Cup Finals to bottom dweller in 2 seasons.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have they played a full 60 minutes yet?

I seem to remember commenting, even early in the season when they were awesome, that they didn’t play a full 60. It didn’t matter, because they were so dominant, but now I think its catching up to them. The other teams are starting to get into their grooves, target SJ as the best team in the league, and figure out how to beat SJ’s system. But the Sharks, not used to needing to play the entire game, aren’t ready for it.

by mymclife on Jan 6, 2009 8:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think they have either.

They keep either taking their foot off the gas late in games or coming out of the gate looking like I do when I don’t get my morning coffee. They were on a stretch where it didn’t matter that much since most teams couldn’t use it to their advantage. Then we went to the Joe.

Since then rather than wake up the play has gotten weaker. Enough so that even the Islanders almost managed a comeback against us. Sure we won, but they should never have scored 3 goals.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What. The. Hell.

I finish my homework early for this?

You know what, screw the “experiment.” Get the “Big Three” back together, and fast. Put Cheechoo back with Goc and Grier. Reunite Clowe, Michalek, and Pavelski. The only guys that are creating anything have played together this season – Goc and Grier, Marleau and Grier; hell, just put Grier on and at least we’ll give Kiprusoff SOMETHING to do. Its sad that the most production they got the entire game – and the most time in the offensive zone – was shorthanded.

My reasoning for the slump? Roenick. He’s the guy that would yell at everyone and lead by example – like not giving up. Haven’t you noticed that ever since JR was injured, they’re on their slump? Other guys need to step up; Grier looks like he’s trying to, but since he can’t hit the broad side of a barn it doesn’t quite work.

Sorry for the rant; just a bad day getting worse.

by mymclife on Jan 6, 2009 7:55 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very keen observation

about JR. I hadn’t even thought of that.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 7:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

my dad and i were noticing the timing the other day. 100% agree

by denver_diaspora on Jan 6, 2009 7:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Roenick is part of it...

but is it possible that teams have figured us out? That’s what worries me the most. It’s like that rookie pitcher that blows everyone away in his first few starts, until the league catches up with him and then he looks human again.

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 7:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or the rookie hitter

who keeps knocking it out of the park, until the scouting reports locate the hole in his swing and turns into a K machine

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by SwisherThresher on Jan 6, 2009 8:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And yet

I’m pretty sure JR is present

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not on the ice, though.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 7:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

and I can’t quantify the difference between being dressed and not

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by Dave Valentine on Jan 6, 2009 8:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d have to side with Dave here- it’s not as if Roenick is completely out of the picture here. Sure he’s missed on the ice, but I don’t think too much of his locker room presence is missed.

And on the ice he wasn’t been ripping up the scoresheet. Yeah, it’s a big loss, but I don’t think you can attribute all of a team’s lack of success to one player. Even a Joe Thornton/Patty Marleau.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That looks better...

Patty and Joe, together again

by Section223 on Jan 6, 2009 8:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish we experimented against NYI instead.

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 8:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right

Kind of a warm-up game

by Section223 on Jan 6, 2009 8:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh x4

!!!!
I’m not a happy person

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:02 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GAH

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:02 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG

This is killing me.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 8:02 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boush in

Nabby out

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Waterboy...

lets go.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope...

Maybe this will wake them up. Then again the Detroit game didn’t so…

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is this our chance?

4 on 3

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We get a goal here...

and the game changes. We don’t, and it’s pretty much over.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES!!!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOOT

Clowe

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you Ryane

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's something to be said

for getting back your dignity.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The first penalty expires, so we should still have a lot of time on the 5 on 4

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and we’ll be right back in it

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 8:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's go PK

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's right up there with the Joe

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The two teams other than Detroit

that I’d want to avoid in the playoffs…Columbus and Calgary. Both scare me, for some reason.

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES!!!!!!!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GRIER SHORTY!

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GRIER!!

now you guys can’t keep harping on him!!! he way made up for the emply netter!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He must have read the article...

and decided to play better.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 8:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha ha!

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can still bitch about Semenov right?

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah … nothing I can do to help that boy

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heheh

Good

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Always :)

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give Patty some credit- that was all him.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he always has my love :)

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great fight

not.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:20 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not even a fight

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha, you know it’s bad when two guys drop the gloves and all they get is two minors for roughing.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Semenov

Take down specialist.

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 8:21 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's a huge freaking guy.

I’ll give him that much.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just how I like my guys … ;)

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was such a pathetic fight,

refs decided it’s not worth of 5 minutes

by Sharkbit12 on Jan 6, 2009 8:24 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Roy threw a punch, Semmy didn't...

Should have been 5 mins for Roy, 2 for Semmy.

;)

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by That'll Cheech You on Jan 6, 2009 8:24 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anybody else notice how they seem to put their whistles away in the Saddledome?

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Canadian bias

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent point.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we have more class than that

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by ang6666 on Jan 6, 2009 8:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

back from vacation

so where are the sharks tonight?

by Shark Man on Jan 6, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

equally as unexciting.

Hey, Semenov is going to figure out how to do something right. One of these days.

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by Mr. Plank on Jan 6, 2009 8:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

He’s keeping himself off the ice.

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 6, 2009 8:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs