Regular Season Champions Banner
by Mr. Plank on Oct 13, 2009 3:00 AM PDT
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[Editor's Note]: Walk The Plank will be a recurring piece on Fear The Fin this season. Despite lacking a creative name (frankly it's rather pathetic), this series will touch upon issues across the NHL, as well as those within the San Jose Sharks organization. This week we take a look at the Western Conference Regular Season Champions Banner that was raised in HP Pavilion before the home opener against Columbus.
Although it has been discussed rather extensively during the course of the last week, the time has come for the almighty equalizer- a poll. But before we get to that, a little background on the issue and a review of the prevailing opinions from Fear The Fin readers.
The Sharks regular season success and subsequent playoff disappointments have been well-documented, and this has inevitably led to a lack of trust amongst the fanbase concerning how the organization presents itself publicly. Some want the team to continue to acknowledge these failures ad nauseam, in the hope that it will eventually motivate the players into breaking through during the postseason- call them the "History is our greatest teaching tool" group. Others point to the uncertainty of the NHL playoffs, and chalk it up to a combination of bad luck and injury issues- call them the "It's a new year" conglomerate.
Then, of course, are those in the middle- the shades of gray swimming amongst a sea of black and white.
I find myself in the "gray" category most days, but admittedly find it hard to imagine the thought process that led to a Western Conference Regular Season Champions banner being hung from the rafters. It's a perpetual reminder of the choke label casually thrown around by the MSM whenever discussing the Sharks, and essentially comes down to a case of selectively double dipping in order to create an increased sense of accomplishment. The nature of winning a Presidents' Trophy (and proudly hanging that well-deserved banner) ensures that you were the best team in the Conference due to the fact that you were the best team in the league during the regular season. Hanging a Regular Season Champions banner is redundancy at it's finest.
However, that doesn't mean there aren't a wide variety of opinions on our humble site, both for and against the banner. Make the jump for quotes from Fear The Fin readers, along with an image from Joe Louis Arena that shows San Jose isn't the only organization who has made this decision.
Here's what some of you had to say:
All it does it piss me off more about our regular season ‘accomplishments’ but total ineptness when it comes to the post season.
I don't mind redundancy in this case. Yes, if you follow the sport you get that the Presidents' Trophy also equals a regular season conference win, but not everyone coming in will know that right away and 6 banners in visually more impressive than 5. It’s also a visual pride booster and MAYBE it gets into the head of the other team on occasion. Who knows?
I think this is one of those cases where one is either for it or against it and we just happen to be on differing sides of that gulch.
Guess who else happen to have a banner with this exact same wording:
Truly, the Sharks are modeling themselves after the Red Wings – even during their embarassing moments.
The President’s Trophy banner, by definition, also means the team was the regular season conference leader. I can understand how the Boston Bruins would hang their Eastern Conference regular season leader banner (baah, too many syllables…), because they just barely missed out on the President’s Trophy. But for San Jose, and any other team (like Detroit), that wins the President’s Trophy, that one banner should suffice… unless you really were in doubt over which conference the team is in.
At least they’re not arbitrarily retiring numbers. Because, IMO, that’s worse than putting up a Western Conference champs banner – they can always take a banner down, but it’s hard to unretire a number.
The Western Conference Champs banner is quite redundant, and a wee bit misleading, though. So I’ll agree that it would probably be better to leave that one out. Although I’m not sure anyone leaguewide will care. And if they don’t care, and it fills out our rafters a bit, so be it. If it helps marketing of the team to have a few more banners up, no matter how redundant they are, by all means they should put them up.
Did anyone notice how the Sharks banners look like they came straight out of the wash? I sincerely hope the wrinkles are ironed out. Someone should hop up there with a steamer and get to work.
Effective marketing or a redundant celebration of mediocrity? A painful reminder of postseason failure or a celebration of the halcyon days of regular season triumphs? In need of a good steam press?
You decide. But if it was up to me, the Regular Season Champions banner would (wait for it, wait for it)... walk the plank.
Go Sharks.
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Agree with most points, and I’m in the camp that thinks that it is redundant and a little cocky even. Buy, you can’t take it down now, because doing that would just bring even more attention to yorself.
Leave it up, even if it is a bit douchey.
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 6:01 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Thats pretty much my thoughts exactly.
If it were up to me, I wouldn’t have put it up in the first place. Now that its already up there we might as well leave it. Can you imagine the headline? “Sharks take back their accomplishments” Or something… I say leave it up now that its already there, even though it may not have been the best of decisions to put it up in the first place.
by dan_hileman on Oct 13, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, it won’t draw much attention if you do it now because no one, inside or outside the fan base, really gives a crap about this banner. It won’t show up anywhere in the media if it disappears during this long road trip. Make every banner count and this one doesn’t. If you wait til halfway through the season, then you’ve waited too long, but right now you’ve played three games and had plenty of memories (good and bad) from this home series that no one will notice.
I asked the opinions of a few fellow season ticket holders around me and we all agreed it was cheap and tacky, I guarantee no one in the arena would miss it.
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Oct 13, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leave it up,
it’s already there!
(like they said above) I probably wouldn’t have put it there in the first place.
-The dude responsible for this mess
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by idunno723 on Oct 13, 2009 6:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Regular season championship banners just look cheesy.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 6:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't have put it up
but you sure as hell can’t take it down now.
Though I don’t really think it matters much either way.
Let’s just say it should be replaced with whatever banner we happen to achieve this year.
I shouldn't have said anything.
by perkins.kit on Oct 13, 2009 7:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One part of this really annoys me
I still don’t get those whole “look how mediocre our ENTIRE SEASON was” attitude. The regular season is NOT the post season. The post season sucked, I get it. Really, I do, but at some point you have to separate out what was for about 3/4 of it a very spectacular REGULAR season from a very disappointing post season. Even if only in terms of “why would you hang these banners?”
Would you rather they hung none of them at all? I mean, we won the President’s Trophy, but it’s not the Cup. Or even the conference championship! Tear it down! Same for the division banner. It’s great and all, but not worth hanging because we suck.
To me, it seems like people want to punish the team for having the wrong type of success. You know, great regular season and all, but call me when you get out of the second round sorta thing. Personally I say hang them up there. Be proud of what you DID accomplish, but use them as a reminder for what you didn’t.
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's it at all.
It’s just because that the Presidents Trophy banner is plenty to show that you had a great regular season. By hanging that banner, it’s inferred that you were also the Western Conference Regular Season Champions that year. I’m not saying that the Sharks shouldn’t embrace the successes of the team, in fact, I’d say that I’m one of the few who has been consistently appreciative of the success they have had in the regular season… while turning the other cheek to the failures.
It’s like putting up a sign that says: “TCY is the best looking guy in the world”, and then right next to it, putting up a sign that says"TCY is the best looking guy in the room". Although having both up there is nice and all, and it sure is a boost to my ego in that hypothetical situation, the second sign isn’t necessary because it is inferred by the first. It’s superflous, and a little showboaty.
I do not want to punish the team for the wrong type of success, but the overly bragging about that success is what irks me.
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's overly bragging
As I said before, it’s not obvious to everyone that the Pres. Trophy = great regular season. It took me a few seasons to realize the Pres. Trophy existed. I certainly wouldn’t have known in my first season as a fan. To come in and see 6 banners and get to ask about them, and have the subtleties explained well, to me that makes sense. (just don’t ask Mina when she takes you to a game with a boy. ;) )
Nor do I think that by hanging the banner its like puffing out our chests. It’s more like, hey, we got this thing, let’s display it with pride and use it as a reminder of what we’ve done and the work we still need to do. It simply shows what was. Just a different interpretation of the same symbol.
The funny thing is, I can picture an alternate scenario where people would be as upset by us NOT hanging it. It’s something I’ve been keeping in mind while reading the arguments for and against. The tone of some of the arguments against is what really bothers me. Maybe you don’t feel like that, but the mediocre comments from others hint at something more.
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can get that, and I get that it’s catered more to the fan who comes to the game and has little to no idea what is going on. They just see pretty silk banners and say “oh, this team must be good, look how many championship banners they have!”
I guess we’re just reading into it differently, and yeah, I do see people coming from the place of “call me when you get past round two” attitude.
To me though, it’s unnecessary. If we have to explain every banner to every fan, you’d be in trouble. When we (fingers crossed) eventually win the Stanley Cup, will we need to have a “Stanley Cup Champions” banner and a “NHL Post Season Champions” banner as well? I know that’s not exactly what you are saying, but I think you see my point.
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do
but as you said, those aren’t quite the same thing. If they did that then I’d be with you.
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By hanging that banner, it’s inferred that you were also the Western Conference Regular Season Champions that year
Didn’t we hang three – the third being the Pacific Divison as well … and by getting the Presidents Trophy it’s also inferred you are the Division winner, yet that one isn’t being challenged.
I just don’t see the issue myself over a banner. It’s a feel good thing, and yes, normally not into that myself, but let them have their moment. Let the fans that like it have their moment with that extra banner. No harm really. Maybe when we have 24 Stanley Cup banners, then we can rethink what banners we actually want. But now? Let’s take what we can get huh?
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by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the thing that looks a bit cheap is the “regular season” bit. I look at Wings as conference champs because they emerged from the west to face the Pens in the final. Whereas what happens in the postseason has no impact on the top team in the Pacific division.
by BritShark on Oct 13, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine, yeah, but like ang said, we didn’t even technically “win” the Pacific Division, either. We got beat by the Ducks, who are in our division, too.
As much as the regular season isn’t the playoffs, one embarrassing series doesn’t take away the fact that they did, in fact, win the conference. If you take down the Western Conference banner, then you have to take down the Pacific Division banner because of the implied reference.
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by stufflife on Oct 13, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone notice how the Sharks banners look like they came straight out of the wash? I sincerely hope the wrinkles are ironed out. Someone should hop up there with a steamer and get to work.
LOL, I didn’t even notice until now.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 8:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
If you are going to put up a questionable banner, at least make sure it’s ironed.
I vote for a third option in the poll:
If you were in charge of this decision, the Western Conference Regular Season Champions banner would be…
- Left up.
- Taken down.
- Ironed
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
by Morti on Oct 13, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote three!
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
by Morti on Oct 13, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on now … the unironed look just confirms Nocals casual attitude … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thoguht it was socals who had a casual attitude
by a10dency2ask on Oct 13, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actors!
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we don’t have a casual attitude??
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we do? But I thought the stereotype was more techies/nerds, hippies/activists etc.
by a10dency2ask on Oct 13, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And hippies aren’t casual?
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by mymclife on Oct 13, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess so. more of a north bay thing though. And the other 3 aren’t casual. Maybe I’m just wrong since no one is backing me up here. I just always thought Socal was the one with the “laid back California” stereotype.
by a10dency2ask on Oct 13, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we’re pretty casual here as well … maybe not surfer “laid back” … but casual all the same
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, the “laid back California” thing is for all of California, but the different regions portray it differently. SoCal has surfers and the Bay Area has hippies.
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by mymclife on Oct 13, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. San Jose does not really have hippies. We also don’t have a laid-back attitude. Drive over to Santa Cruz and tell me if it doesn’t feel like the world slowed down a bit.
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by stufflife on Oct 13, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nerd City if you ask me. And I love it!
Now Davis, they have hippies.
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you think santa cruz is a nerd city?
by a10dency2ask on Oct 13, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nonono. It's hippieville for sure. reply fail.
but the South Bay is nerd city.
Davis is also a hippie hot bed.
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But hard-working nerd-city. Like unstopping geekiness. It’s hard to keep up and harder to get ahead.
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by stufflife on Oct 13, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is very geeky, but a lot of the nerds in the South Bay are more laid-back. Like, Google. And my dad’s company asks on job applications what the estimated airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow is.
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by mymclife on Oct 13, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like Google USED to be
things have changed over there. Still better than a lot of other places, but they’re less pre-bubble like now.
Some companies are wise and acting like they did pre busted bubble, but not all.
(I hope his answer was “African or European?”)
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he was the one who put that on there. On another job application, he asked “What is your favorite hockey team?” He said that he’d throw out anyone who answered “Ducks,” but I’m not so sure I trust him on that one.
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by mymclife on Oct 13, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is fantastic.
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spent my summer at Google, and while I felt it was fairly calm, there was definitely pressure to produce. Can’t tell you what it was like pre-bubble since I was living in the frozen tundra of Wisconsin at the time.
Jon Casey fan since '84
by stufflife on Oct 14, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The speech
Certainly slows down… I call it the Santa Cruz drawl.
“Wow, duuuuude.”
Lest anyone accuse me of stereotyping (and to be sure, not everyone is like this), I used to live there, and I have good friends that, regrettably, talk like this.
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 13, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my point exactly
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by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That response wasn’t exactly casual.
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see some guy in the rafters trying to iron one of those banners.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about this
We leave it up as a placeholder for a future banner. When we win the Stanley Cup (I know we will, I just don’t know when it will be), we won’t so much take down the “Western Conference Regular Season Champions” banner as we will replace it with the “Stanley Cup Champions” banner.
Or we could leave it up a la Mighty Ducks, where the Hawks left up their only 2nd place banner, even though Coach Jack Reilly wishes they would take it down. Maybe when we go on our 4 year dynasty, we’ll look back and remember our roots.
by Chicago Shark on Oct 13, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Sharks do finally win it all...
…doesn’t that banner just add to the accomplishments? If the Sharks had won it all previously, no one would bat an eye (just like the Red Wings). While I am as disappointed as anybody in the Sharks playoff shortcomings, I don’t think that should take away from their accomplishments.
by ruben398 on Oct 13, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't really care what we do with this banner
as long as people stop whining about the president’s trophy. Remember all those elaborate fan reactions people weer concocting, like booing when they raise the banner? Ick. Lame.
by a10dency2ask on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tautology is always ugly...
…and in my line of work as a newspaper reporter we are taught to avoid it like the plague. So making reference to the conference when you’ve already recognised leading the league looks a bit unnecessary and untidy in my opinion.
But sadly now it’s up I think we should leave it there, bringing it down now would just look stupid. Still, I just wish it had never been hoisted, because it is simply not needed.
As the architect William Morris once said: “Nothing useless can be truly beautiful.”
by BritShark on Oct 13, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What paper do you report for?
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
by Morti on Oct 13, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A small local paper called the Dover Express which covers the area around the port town of, you guessed it, Dover, in Kent. Nothing too grand, but it sure is a lot of fun!
by BritShark on Oct 13, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah! My team Teflord United
used to play Dover Athletic back in the days of the Conference. I remember that the away crowd for Dover games was usually less than 10.
Maybe one day we’ll meet again in the Blue Square Premier
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
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by Morti on Oct 13, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points all around
My take on the matter:
Do you really go around with pride and tell people “We were the Western Conference Regular Season Champions?”
I get that we’re a young franchise, with not a lot of history to celebrate, and not enough history to start considering retiring numbers, but we also believe we are on the cusp of great things. Do you really want to hang a Stanley Cup Banner next to a “Western Conference Regular Season Champion” banner?
Yes, yes, Detroit did it. If Detroit jumped off a bridge, would we do it? Not EVERYTHING they did was something we want to model.
Also, when you look back at the banners, and you look at the years, and you see that in ‘08-’09, the Sharks won the Division and the Presidents Trophy, but DIDN’T win the Cup, what does it say that you decided to hang a “Western Conference Regular Season Champion” banner?
Now, to be fair, we had 60-70 great games last season, and then 6 just awful games (I’m including the wins against Anaheim because excitement aside, they were still not that great). It’s fine to remember that. We won the division and the President’s Trophy. It’s pretty much par for the course to put banners up for that.
But this banner just seems desperate. It’s saying “We were TOO good!” But honestly, after the series against Anaheim, what CAN you say about the team? Yes, Anaheim was not your typical 8 seed. But let’s face it, at that point in the season, we were also not your typical 1 seed. The series and its result basically played out the way the teams probably should have been ranked at the time.
The way the team handled themselves in the off-season was more or less appropriate. No one talked a lot about a great regular season, they talked about how awful it was to bow out so early, the fact that the team needed change, and that they wanted to build on the positives from last year and figure out how to sustain it.
Plank has written it much better than I ever could how the choker label is simple and not entirely accurate, but it’s the easiest story to write. And honestly, given the amount of semantics and analysis that goes into disputing the choker label, for me, it effectively becomes true.
If your team IS a bunch of chokers, why go and draw attention to yourselves with a garrish banner that is redundant, and in the grand scheme of things, not something you are going to go advertise?
This is getting wordy, so, please, respond away.
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by ElvisVF101 on Oct 13, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
avoid it like the plague.
Obviously tautology is out, but horrendous cliches? Bring ’em on!
by BritShark on Oct 13, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Say 5 years from now, we’ve won 2 Cups, and have quite a few more banners in our rafters. Is anyone even going to notice, or care about, a hokey tacked on banner from our frusteration years? Say 5 years from now we have continued our playoff chokes and are in rebuilding mode, never having quite gotten back to #1 seed territory. Think we’ll care we have a tacked on banner, or will be remember the team that was really good and hope for a team just as good someday again?
Seeing the picture from Detroit only affirms my belief that no one really gives a shit outside of San Jose about us putting up a Reg. Season Chip banner. The fans here are only making such a big deal about it because last season’s playoff failure is still so fresh in our memories. A few years from now, win or lose, I doubt anyone will be raising a fuss over one extra banner in our rafters of a great regular season we had.
And, also, I’ll agree with those before me who said that now that its up, you cannot take it down.
Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!
by ZeroIndulgence on Oct 13, 2009 10:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no trophy and title for regular season conference championship
There is no title for Regular Season Conference Championship – no trophy is awarded and no one acknowledges it as an accomplishment. The division champion is an accomplishment, the Presidents Trophy is an accomplishment, winning the conference and going to the Cup is an accomplishment, and obviously winning the Cup is.
There’s just nothing here to celebrate specifically – I celebrated the division and the Presidents, but never did it even cross my mind to celebrate this. There’s only one conference championship and that comes in the playoffs.
Furthermore, I’ve always been proud of our banners and I was extremely happy to know the addition of two more coming into this season because we build our history with those. This banner feels cheap and when you only have 5 other banners for recognized accomplishments it belittles the whole process.
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Oct 13, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
+1
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly – well said, Teas. Rec’d (literally).
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 13, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, feasably, if you win the Pres trophy and the Cup you could hang:
Pacific Division banner
Western Conference Regular Season banner
Presidents Trophy banner
Western Conference banner
Stanely Cup banner
Did Pitt hang an Eastern conference banner?
I know Detroit had a western conference regular season banner, but did they also have the presidents trophy that year?
by Evilducks on Oct 13, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know Detroit had a western conference regular season banner, but did they also have the presidents trophy that year
Yep, look at the image above
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering we only have 1 team playing in the arena this could help add some banners to the rafters. I know the Ducks have their cup banner and I’d trade all the banners we have for that 1 any day of the week, they still only have 5 banners total up there and it looks really barren.
It’s a stupid banner imho, but eh, in the long run it won’t matter.
by Evilducks on Oct 13, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About the red wings
They have actually accomplished something, making it acceptable for them to put up west conference regular season champs. The Sharks have accomplished zero and it seems like they are using this banner to make it seem like they have. I hate it. Take it down.
by Sir Snipesalot on Oct 14, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
zero?
only if you define zero as no Cups. I don’t.
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by CTGray on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry,
they won a Presidents trophy…my bad.
by Sir Snipesalot on Oct 15, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the division a few years in a row, but why bother acknowledging that., right?
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by CTGray on Oct 15, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They hung an Eastern Conference Champions banner, yes. They didn’t hoist a ECRSC banner because that was “won” by the Bruins.
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by Nael M. on Oct 13, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
I was curious, as it’s completely redundant with the Cup banner.
So, sounds like it’s perfectly reasonable to have this banner. The problem is Sharks fans are bitter (myself included)
by Evilducks on Oct 13, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is exactly the problem...
If the Sharks had won a cup a few years ago, and then bowed out last year, no one would have an issue with the WCRSC banner. The problem is that it just reminds fans that the Sharks still haven’t won it all and failed spectacularly in their best chance yet last year.
LIke you said evilducks, perfectly reasonable to have the banner. In 10 years, it will (hopefully) be a point of pride instead of another reminder of the team’s shortcomings.
by ruben398 on Oct 13, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget the boot going up twenty nine asses banner.
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by Mr. Plank on Oct 13, 2009 11:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I DONT GIVE A FUCK.
keep shit tough. do things hard.
by KeepMarleau on Oct 13, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fear the Fin: If you're a Fin, you're family.
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 13, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record, KM
This image was meant as a mild “watch the language” warning. The Church Lady – look it up on YouTube.
Fear the Fin: If you're a Fin, you're family.
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 13, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy is either is one clever sockpuppet troll
or a Caps Lock master of unprecedented ability.
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by joe579 on Oct 13, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's just keeping shit tough
and doing things hard.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
by Morti on Oct 13, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WILDCARD
BITCHES!
That’s what he is.
by Chicago Shark on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
never should have gone up in the first place
but since it’s up, might as well leave it up there, that’s just what i think
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by serrapadre716 on Oct 13, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sr. Plank
You come up with the name all on your own, or did you, TCY and K have a brainstorm session?
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Oct 13, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to point out that I had no involvement with the name choice. Haha.
I did tell him, though, that it was so bad that it was funny. Like, shaking my head in disgust funny.
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
way to back off any involvement real fast! :)
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by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did come up with Sharktistical Analysis, though. I hang my head in shame for that.
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya know … it’s hard to be creative all the time … so no one holds it against you … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I 100% hold it against him!
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps a follow up Segment
The Sharktistical Effects of Walking the Plank.
by Evilducks on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the name "Sharktistical Analysis"
by idunno723 on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU WOU...
I mean, thanks?
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, thanks.
But it’s a little to punny for our taste now. Moving on, but we shall always remember the past.
Fear the Fin: Where Dany Heatley finally started scoring in game two.
by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
too*
Fear the Fin: Where Dany Heatley finally started scoring in game two.
by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is an adult’s Sharks website ;-)
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to consider us the connoisseur’s Sharks blog.
Fear the Fin: Where Dany Heatley finally started scoring in game two.
by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
adults?
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by serrapadre716 on Oct 13, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that’s the best we could come up with in a brainstorm session wed be in a lot of trouble.
I’m afraid I have to take full responsibility.
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by Mr. Plank on Oct 13, 2009 3:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
A LITTLE TOO TOUGH.
ALRIGHT GUYS I AGREE I DID THINGS A BIT TOO HARD THERE. I ALMOST FEEL REMORSE. SO HERE’S THE DEAL: JUST DON’T CRAMP MY STYLE AND I WON’T FEEL THE NEED TO RETALIATE. I DON’T LIKE BEING MEAN. I JUST LIKE BEING INTENSE. PLUS I WAS FUCKING PUMPED TODAY CAUSE I JUST OWNED SOME 12 YEAR OLDS IN ROLLER HOCKEY, FUCKING HIP CHICKED TWO OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME, MCLAREN STYLE.
OK..I WAS MERELY SAYING “Oh, I don’t really mind the banner being up there.” WHEN I SAID “I DON’T GIVE A FUCK”. I JUST CAN’T HELP BUT BE G LIKE TUPAC SOMETIMES. SO WHEN CINCO DE MAYONAISSE WAS TRYING TO BE ALL FRESH WITH HIS DANA CARVEY SHIT, I DECIDED TO PUNCH HIM IN THE MOUTH. I WENT OVERBOARD AND REALLY WAS RUDE. SO NOW I FEEL THE NEED TO REVEAL AN EMBARRASSING FACT ABOUT MYSELF: MY DICK ONLY SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE.
Ok, now seriously, I’m sorry for saying what I did. It was a bitch move. I really do respect that you revealed that stuff, and it was actually rather interesting to read about. You’re a pretty good blogger/ writer. I hope everything is healing up good. Again, sorry for being a cockmuncher. It shan’t happen again. But you better believe I’m still going to say ridiculous, outlandish, and unneccessary things on here. It’s just how I am. I’m a big Sharks fan, and just like acting stupid and weird and gross. Hah, cheers guys.
P.s. I really did hip-check a younger teenage kid mclaren-style today. I even yelled “GET ME MY YELLOW VISOR, BITCH!” after. His dad came running out and yelled at me. I’m 20 years old, and fucking rocked a 14 year old. The kid was just laughing, and said “Chill out, dad.”
keep shit tough. do things hard.
by KeepMarleau on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We appreciate intensity, but none of us appreciate slander or insults. You’re entitled to your opinion like the rest of us, and you’re entitled to defend it, but personal attacks have no place on this website.
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Oct 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guy is like Mattman with no conscience, on crack.
But thanks for the quasi-apology.
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by That'll Cheech You on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHA
I just read this, and literally LOL’ed.
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm … sure glad my 18 year old has better sense … and I’m going to leave it at that … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha solid story.
Keep shit tough, but like Teas said, leave the personal attacks out and you’re gravy.
Appreciate the apology, and I’m sure Cinco de Mayonaisse will as well. I’m going to go ahead and delete it and we will move on.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 13, 2009 4:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Apology accepted… but I’m more than a little burned, KM.
Fear the Fin: If you're a Fin, you're family.
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! You're both Yankees fans
You have common ground now.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
by Morti on Oct 13, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIGURES
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mayonnaise part is funny, since I hadn’t connected it to Miracle Whip until just now. Am I just slow?
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by stufflife on Oct 13, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did enjoy
… that when things got serious, he killed the caplocks – NOW THAT’S INTENSITY! (kidding)
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apology accepted, mostly because this is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.
by BritShark on Oct 14, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I think it is overkill with the Regular Season champions flag, as the President’s Trophy flag says the same thing. But, being the conspiracy theorist that I am, I think they are doing this so every time the Sharks players look up, they are reminded of that disappointment and realize they have to overcome it.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Oct 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I say leave it up.. but for more of a sadistic reason. As a constant in your face reminder to Chokin Joe, Patty Melt and NaCRAPov of their constant failures! Anyone expecting anything different this year is in for a shock!!… oh wait.. it’s the Sharks… them failing doesn’t shock anyone! Lets face it… when it counts… when champions step up…they disappear! I’m already getting my official SJ Sharks Choker Chain ready for the playoffs!
by G M on Oct 13, 2009 6:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome!
Who left the troll door open?
by Section223 on Oct 13, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHO LET THE TROLLS OUT! WHO...
Wait… NO
by idunno723 on Oct 13, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta pay the troll toll to get into the boy’s ho- wait, nevermind.
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by Mr. Plank on Oct 13, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mind. now. unclean. must.wash.must.wash.
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by CTGray on Oct 13, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I will slap your face right off your face!”
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 13, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep singing, bitch. You’re not gonna have a face by the time I’m done with you!
by Section223 on Oct 13, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
okie dokie … and reading this, I won’t whine that my internet went down … :)
you guys are in a mood … (when are you guys not)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 13, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cared for about a minute
I thought it was lame at first. I mean it was exactly what this team gets criticized for being good only in the regular season! But really f**** those people. The only way to shut them up anyways is for them to win the only banner that counts. Screw what people think at this point.
by skilletboy on Oct 13, 2009 7:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Western Conference Regular Season Champions?
Just Call It President’s Trophy Winners, 2008-2009. More words does not make your accomplishment better.
by The Canuck Fan on Oct 13, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't say,"Regular season"
It kind of makes the playoff chokes a little more renounced. “President’s Trophy Winners” is much more sophisticated.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 14, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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