Off the Post - October 21st
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 AM PDT
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- [UPDATE, 2:18pm] = WTC update (thanks to Nael M.) - Boyle gets the lady love, call ups, the Greiss question, McLellan dissing DP... yeah, check it out.
- New to Fear the Fin, and not sure what "Corn" or being "Staubitized" is in reference to? Here's mymclife's handy-dandy cheat sheet.
- TCY analyzes San Jose's and Detroit's approach to prospects.
- Plank feels your "Sharks keep giving up the first goal" pain. [Note - the Sharks have given up the first goal in 7 out of 9 games, or 8 if you count a shootout loss, and have given up the first 2 goals in 33% of their games]
- CTGray and the Couch Tarts get new digs!
- [UPDATE, 4:50pm] = Marc Savard is out long-term with a broken foot, and Sergei Gonchar broke his wrist, keeping him out for the next 6 weeks.
- The Fins are invading Atlanta!
- Wonder where Mathieu Dandenault went after the Sharks dropped him from training camp? Here's your answer.
- Ask your old captain some burning questions... he's probably chattier now without that pesky "C" (meh...).
- I wish I had said "Hi" to Dynamo Minsk coach and former NHL goaltender Glen Hanlon in Belarus this summer, since he just got the ax (and how).
- It's everyone's favorite new game, Strip Hockey! When Gary Bettman plays, he adds "...of its soul" to the name.
- A fanpost on the readiness of potential NHL expansion cities.
- The Edmonton Journal placates their readership by keeping a running tally comparing Dany Heatley to the Oilers he would have been traded for.
- [UPDATE, 11:47am] - See the teal-mug shots of the new Sharks (thanks to Teas for the link).
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While perusing stats...
I noticed that Evgeni Nabokov has the third most shots against and saves, which says a lot about how much he is doing to keep us in games despite the fact that he GAA and Sv% are not incredible (inflated by a few poor games, but in most wins he has been a large part).
by Very Serious Person on Oct 21, 2009 12:41 AM PDT reply actions
Edmonton Journal
Why can’t the people up North living in our “51st” state get over Heatley??? He was traded to San Jose. He’s not a Sen nor an Oiler, HE IS A SHARK!
The Oilers, as of right now, are playing well without Heatley. Maybe they should worry about their current roster instead of a roster that doesn’t exist.
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Pavelski closing in, Pavelski fires, HE SCOOORES!! 5 games not enough! The Sharks have another date in the Lone Star State!
It's a combination of jealousy and bitterness on their part.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
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by Lurker Shark on Oct 21, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
To make a fair comparison,
They should exclude any of the points (assists) that occurred with any combination of the three players.
Or..
Give Heatley a goal and an assist on his goal against the rangers since he did pass it to himself before scoring.
Or...
Just stop whining about it. I would rather have one player with the same quantified stats as three combined.
Jon Casey fan since '84
Touche!
Fear the Fin: "Hope you bitches brought your guns! I’m always packing heat!" - Mr. Plank, 10/15/09
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone seen the Pavelski commercial...
or maybe have a link to it somewhere? It was hilarious when I saw it and would like to show my girlfriend.
by SharksFanTillDeath on Oct 21, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions
I'm going to add this
Thanks!
Full credit to both SFTD and ED.
Fear the Fin: "Hope you bitches brought your guns! I’m always packing heat!" - Mr. Plank, 10/15/09
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Awesome!!!
Thanks, my first H/T :-)
by SharksFanTillDeath on Oct 21, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else hankering for a sandwich and a glass of milk?
watching that commercial made me hungry.
CSNBA: Nabby was so good in goal against Minnesota, he could have saved everything but the Oakland Raiders’ season.
That was the best commercial they have done this season easily.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Oct 21, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I still like the Thornton commercial a lot. Though the freeze frame on Pav’s face when they say ‘lousy detective’ is priceless.
I forgot about the Thornton commercial haha. The puppet was awesome, and Pavs look is priceless in that ad.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Oct 21, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In other news
the Sharks’ site has updated photos for all the new guys in Sharks’ jerseys… Benn Ferriero’s picture kinda scares me. It’s not the cute, black-eye picture of past Torrey Mitchell acclaim – more like mug-shot, “I just got my ass-kicked in the back alley of a dive bar.”
http://sharks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8473600
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
Interesting note
When looking at the team roster Pavelski is listed as being on Injured Reserve, but Mitchell is not.
File it under “things that make you go ‘hmmmmm’”
Also going to add this
All credit to Teas.
Fear the Fin: "Hope you bitches brought your guns! I’m always packing heat!" - Mr. Plank, 10/15/09
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Keep up the good work, and it won’t be the last time!
Fear the Fin: "Hope you bitches brought your guns! I’m always packing heat!" - Mr. Plank, 10/15/09
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
new WTC
pavelski
he. is. awesomeness. hopefully he returns soon to help out the sharks (and my fantasy team)
MeThinksSports where the only semi-good thing is the poll...
Anyone get SI magazine?
Look at this letter sent in :
Hockey needs to get back to its roots by contracting the league and moving teams to Canada and the North East. Original Six fans and fans in the East stay true to their teams. In places like Carolina, Tampa, Phoenix, Anaheim, Los Angeles and San Jose, the fans are front-runners. Enough with the phony warm-weather cities; they don’t deserve teams.
-Kevin Cribaudo, Boston
Another one
Your NHL Preview article (It’s All About the Six, Oct. 5) captures the essence of Original Six hockey. Preexpansion hockey was a better game than what we have now, and the newer teams just don’t have the tradition and—as writer Michael Farber points out—the uniforms. With all due respect to the San Jose Sharks, if they’re playing the Montreal Canadiens in the Stanley Cup finals next June, I won’t be the only Boston fan who will be cheering on the Habs.
George E. Malley
West Roxbury, Mass.
Linky
First time someone on the East Coast expected the Sharks not to choke in the playoffs, at least.
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You’d think he’d be rooting against us because we have (former Bruin) Joe Thornton, not because we “don’t have the tradition and… the uniforms.”
Any Bruins fan that even considers rooting for the Habs in the Finals is a moron – period.
Fear the Fin: "Hope you bitches brought your guns! I’m always packing heat!" - Mr. Plank, 10/15/09
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Point the first: Carolina, Tampa and Ahaheim have Cups to their credit, each won over Canadian opposition.
Point the second: Kevin is from Boston. His opinion is almost automatically wrong.
Point the third: Don’t “deserve” teams? Really? Really?. Yeah, you know how sometimes people are so wrong and in so many ways that you don’t even know where to begin? Yeah, that.
Point the fourth: Uniforms. Yes, I don’t like our current uniforms. I wish we had the old ones. But someone from BOSTON, they of the hideous alternate yellow baby bear jerseys, are calling the kettle black? Seriously, does anything worth anything come out of Boston?
Point the fifth: Any Bruins fan who roots for the Habs is an idiot, and has no sense of “tradition.”
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Also
Point the sixth: Jack Edwards.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
They aren't horrid
But I liked the incarnation before this one. Orange needs to go.
Alternatively, just make the black armor jersey in Teal and in White, and I think we have a winner!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
While we’re at it can we bring back home whites? I like the Black Armor jerseys, but wear that six nights a year (or whatever it was last season) and then just roll out the darks on the road.
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The winds of change are blowing wild and free
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Seconded.
Or thirded. Whatever it should be.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by Lurker Shark on Oct 21, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Why was it changed? I see this mentioned by others, but I dont’ know the history behind it.
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 21, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
No official reason, but a prevailing thought is that it was used to increase merchandise sales. It was around the time the NHL started using third jerseys, and since those are almost always dark, having your team wear them on the road didn’t breed an “attachment” to the product. By switching to home darks, fans were more likely to buy the third jersey.
Or so the story goes…
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I like this idea.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by Lurker Shark on Oct 21, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I like them too
even the orange. I know. I know. It took a few games for them to grow on me, but I dig them.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Endorsed by Mr. K on "CINCODEMYOOR!!!!!" Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Kevin Gribaudo, Boston
He’s from Boston, we care what he thinks why exactly?
I’m sure Chicago’s numbers remained high in all those terrible years? Wait, they didn’t? Boston? yeah, they slumped too. The only really Shit team that’s kept their numbers is Toronto, but there isn’t any sense when it comes to Leafs fans.
It just bugged me,
that it got into Sports Illustrated magazine. You would think that they would put the good letters in but I guess not.
He's full of it anyway
Considering how strong our fan base is for the Sharks, even after all of our post season failures, I don’t think he has much of a case. I also think we had a fairly solid fan base dating back to the inception of the Sharks despite how horrible we were then.
Also considering how much their numbers and any team that consistently does poorly (aside from the Leafs and Canadiens) draw to home games, his case is baseless. Just more east coast idiots talking out of their asses.
They’re probably still bitter the Canes knocked them out of the playoffs last year.
They’re probably still bitter the Canes knocked them out of the playoffs last year.
That would be why he listed Carolina first in that sequence.
Fear the Fin: "Hope you bitches brought your guns! I’m always packing heat!" - Mr. Plank, 10/15/09
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This guy sucks
Basically, he’s arguing that San Jose is not deserving of a team because we wouldn’t support our team unless they were “front-runners,” i.e. doing well in the standings (which they are, and which they have been since immediately before the lockout).
What’s ironic is that he’s the pot calling the kettle black - look at the attendance of Boston (where he’s from) in 2007, as well as that of Chicago. Compare that to last season, when the teams were both in the playoffs.
I’m admittedly thin-skinned about this sort of thing – the fans that think they have a birthright to hockey just because their mothers went into labor in the snow.
Fear the Fin: "Hope you bitches brought your guns! I’m always packing heat!" - Mr. Plank, 10/15/09
by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Oct 21, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
ah … as is said, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one
(shrugs)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 21, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
and they all stink
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by Dave Valentine on Oct 21, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
my opinions smell like roses, thank you very much!
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Endorsed by Mr. K on "CINCODEMYOOR!!!!!" Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
I didn’t mean your’s specifically. I meant opinions in general as compared to assholes
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by Dave Valentine on Oct 21, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I am both relieved
and slightly (SLIGHTLY) disappointed you remained serious in your response. But only slightly. ;)
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Endorsed by Mr. K on "CINCODEMYOOR!!!!!" Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Only serious because I didn’t want for a moment for you to think I thought your opinion stunk…or your ass (of which I know nothing)
I better quit while I’m still somewhat ahead
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by Dave Valentine on Oct 21, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
people are dumb. It’s not just letter writers. Eeeeevry hockey commentator goes on and no about how “when the original six teams are doing well, it’s great for the league”… why? The bias is dumb. I can’t wait to prove them all wrong forever
by a10dency2ask on Oct 21, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a hunch, but those original six teams are in big markets. If they’re doing well, it probably results in increased merchandise sales and higher priced advertising (bigger market = higher priced advertising). The league can then say, “League-wide, HRR (hockey related revenue) increased from last season.”
With revenue sharing this would theoretically trickle down, making it “great for the league.”
My guess though, is that commentors are just talking out of their asses and still consider the Original Six years as “the glory years” or some bullshit. There’s a lot of bias out there about California hockey, but I think we’re making big strides even if Kevin from Beantown still has his head in the sand.
Oh, that’s right Kevin. California fucking invented sand.
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That is completely prejudiced, biased, and wrong. Even in the years where getting 20 wins was considered a good season, the Sharks have never had less than a 90% attendance record throughout their existence. Now, I’m not sure about this, but I believe the only other teams that can boast that statistic are the Leafs, Habs, Wild, and perhaps the Rangers. The former three places all have a deep hockey history, and the Rangers are located in a city with a population that’s over 21 times as big as the entire state of Wyoming.
Not only that, but according to that player survey I linked to in the FAQ, San Jose was voted to have the third most disruptive fans. Boston isn’t even in the top ten. Now, I know that the disruptivity of fans isn’t the best way to see which fanbase is the best, but it definitely contributes. People – players, broadcasters, visiting fans, and so on – often comment about how loud the Tank is. I’ve yet to hear anything about TD Banknorth Garden or whatever it’s called.
Yeah, we have warm weather most of the year, and yeah, it doesn’t snow in San Jose proper (but just try and stop it from falling on the Santa Cruz Mountains), but that doesn’t mean shit, except that we have to pay a hell of a lot more money for housing because of it. People here like to watch hockey, just the same as those back in the Northeast. Actually, we probably like hockey more, because it’s that much harder to get into and support the sport around here.
Oh, and you know what? I think personal computers need to get back to its roots, and should stop shipping anywhere but California, since people here are the only ones that can appreciate computers and technology, because we invented it, right? Enough with the phony computer users, people in Boston and so on don’t deserve computers.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Oct 21, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
I think personal computers need to get back to its roots, and should stop shipping anywhere but California, since people here are the only ones that can appreciate computers and technology, because we invented it, right? Enough with the phony computer users, people in Boston and so on don’t deserve computers.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
I'm reccing this as hard as I can.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by Lurker Shark on Oct 21, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I so can take that another way … but …
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 21, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm sorry (no i'm not) but THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT
that guy doesn’t know shit. how are we “front runners” for supporting our team since they joined the league? i dare him to come to hp pavillion and say that.
MeThinksSports where the only semi-good thing is the poll...
by serrapadre716 on Oct 21, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
and
what the hell does warm weather have to do with playing hockey?
MeThinksSports where the only semi-good thing is the poll...
by serrapadre716 on Oct 21, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Boston?
Really? He sounds more like a Canadian.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by Lurker Shark on Oct 21, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the jealous he doesn't have a team, ubernationalistic ones.
Just to clarify that.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by Lurker Shark on Oct 21, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
pavs!
that was great! he just keeps eating the sandwich anyways.
+
Argh. Bruins fans annoy me so much.
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