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The Importance of Faceoffs

In the 2008-2009 season, 70,417 faceoffs were won in 1,230 games. That's roughly 57.25 faceoffs per game, nearly one per minute. The San Jose Sharks were second in the league in this metric behind the Detroit Red Wings, with the teams posting a 53.8% and 55.1% conversion rate respectively.

This season, the Sharks are currently tops in the league with a 56.9% conversion rate. Sjsharks.com ran a piece on Monday night that highlighted this faceoff success. Todd McLellan stated, "When you win on the penalty kill, you can erase 20-30 seconds," which makes sense intuitively-- centerman wins the draw clean, the puck goes to the defenseman, and he clears it up the boards and out of the zone. The team with the man advantage must retrieve the puck, bring it up the ice, enter the zone, and set up in the umbrella or whatever they happen to be using. If the Sharks do a good job of holding the blueline and force the opposing team to dump it in to engage in puck battles along the boards, 20-30 seconds could theoretically tick off the clock. Simple enough.

In the same piece, Scott Nichol said, "A lot of guys make a living on faceoffs." Which got me to thinking-- how much do they really matter?

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Last season, the correlation of faceoff percentage and total standings points was 0.51; when compared to other statistics such as goal differential (0.95) and shot differential (0.63), it ends up low on the totem pole of things that correlate with teams winning hockey games. I came into this expecting as much-- the purpose of a hockey game is to score more goals than your opponent, and the more you do that, the more you are going to win. Same goes for shots on net-- the more opportunities you have to score goals, the greater likelihood it is that you will do so.

If this sounds like a complete fluff piece, don't jump off the train just yet. I don't really care if you do, but just don't.

Back to the original idea for this exercise-- the article on sjsharks.com. If you've read through it already, you'll remember that a fair amount of emphasis was placed on winning draws during the penalty kill. In 2008-2009, the NHL adopted a new rule which required the initial faceoff of a powerplay to take place in the offensive zone. Therefore, winning draws while shorthanded should mean that your penalty kill will have greater success. Right?

Surprisingly, that's wrong. The correlation of shorthanded faceoff percentage and penalty kill percentage is actually in the negative at -.17. Now these numbers don't confirm that the lower your faceoff percentage is the higher your PK percentage will be-- after all, correlation does not imply causation, and saying that you would be better off losing all your draws doesn't make sense at all. However, this is suggesting that, amongst the league as a whole, a good faceoff percentage does not equal a good kill over the course of a season.

To illustrate this, here's a pretty little chart to swoon your eyes at. The top seven teams in each PK category are highlighted in red, while the bottom seven are highlighted in blue.

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Now there's many reasons why this is the case-- winning a PK faceoff doesn't necessarily mean your team clears the puck directly afterwards, nor does it mean that you're a world beater when it comes to getting your stick in passing lanes. Blocking shots have nothing to do with faceoffs, along with the performance of your goaltender. The list goes on and on. The biggest factor though may be that faceoff percentages don't have all that big of a range. The average success rate last season was around 45.7%. Over the course of 100 trips to the dot, that comes out to roughly 8 extra faceoffs lost, or in other words, two in 25 extra faceoffs. Not exactly a damning setback at the end of the day.

The funny thing about it is, a small sample can really skew things to shit, and that should be considered as we make our way towards the thing that happens in mid-April (not saying that word just yet). Over the course of the season goals and faceoff wins tend to balance out, but in a compressed set of highly intensified games (really trying not to say that word just yet) winning faceoffs can make an impact. And a rather big one at that.

Just don't give all the credit for San Jose's fourth ranked penalty kill to the guys in the dot this season. Even if they're making their living off it.

 

Go Sharks.

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Solid writeup as usual Plank, and the graphics are sexy.

Here’s my take on faceoffs: Endurance

If you win a faceoff, you kill 20-30 seconds of PK with minimal effort. If you lose the faceoff, you might still kill those 20-30 seconds, but all four of your PKers are going to have to work their asses off. Your D are going to be engaged physically with the forwards in front of the net, and your forwards are going to be skating like mad covering lanes and blocking shots.

In an 82 game marathon that’s just a teaser for a 16 game sprint, that’s where faceoffs matter.

We’ve seen the Sharks have some awesome stretches, and some horrendous stretches. The awesome stretches can largely be characterized by times the Sharks have more gas in the tank than their opponents (see the first half of last season, schedule gave Team Teal lots of home games where the opponent played the previous night in Anaheim). Note that this is an obvious simplification, but I think it still has merits.
In the bad stretches, the Sharks get outskated.

Chasing the puck is not conducive to winning, either in the short term or the long term. Our PP against Edmonton in ’06 was crap. So was our PK. And really, so was our ES game. Edmonton was dominant in the face-off circle.

And honestly, how often in the past 3 seasons have we had to say “The Sharks are having trouble getting set up on the PP.” Part of that is the inability to enter the zone cleanly, but with faceoffs coming into the offensive zone, you’d like to see the team getting set up OFF of the faceoff.

It’s hard to tie numbers to this thing, which is why I’m not always a fan of stats, but I think you can see the toll this thing takes mentally, and physically on the team. When they lose faceoffs, everything is harder, and they have to work harder. The harder you work, the greater the chance of injury (we’ve had our fair share of those, haven’t we?). That’s the physical. The mental is harder to pin down, but when the PP struggles, and you see guys like Clowe, or Joe at times, try to do too much because the team is struggling, you want them to go back to the simple things. Faceoffs are simple things. Win the puck, string some passes, move the D and get a shot low with a rebound that someone can jam in.

The numbers might not prove it, but I think if we keep watching for 82 games, we’ll see faceoffs do matter in ways the numbers won’t tell us.

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by ElvisVF101 on Nov 11, 2009 1:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you— was busy as hell all day. Suffice to say this is comparable to the length of a Supreme Court dissenting opinion, and I totally dig that.

The fun thing about hockey is that it’s such a complex game, and you can’t isolate occurrences like you can in baseball. For example, in baseball you can isolate a player’s on base percentage, and come to a firm conclusion that most of that has to do with him. Hockey is such a dynamic game that looking at a player’s raw totals sometimes doesn’t show us the whole picture (the skill level of who he’s playing with, what kind of ice time he is getting, where he’s starting his shifts etc). It’s what makes it exciting, and concurrently, what makes it harder to quantify. A lot of strides have been made in this area by guys like Gabe Desjardins and Dirk Hoag, but it’s still much more difficult to analyze than baseball because of these factors.

As for the PK in a small sample size (i.e. the last paragraph of the piece), I agree— faceoffs can loom large. How about Todd Marchant last season against Anaheim? It seemed like the dude didn’t lose a draw shorthanded all series, and while that may not have been the determining factor in converting at a 16.7% PP rate (I think our boys started off around 0-12 or something as well), it sure as hell didn’t hurt. It’s just that over the course of an 82 game season these things don’t seem to matter much, and like Dirk mentioned below, it doesn’t seem like a significant difference-maker between teams.

It would be interesting to look at blocks of “bad runs” since the lockout, something like a ten game stretch of 3-6-1 or whatever, and see if faceoff percentage fluctuates all that much. My guess is that it wouldn’t, what with goal scoring and save percentage probably being the biggest issues there, but as I mentioned before, everything is connected.

It’s just that some statistics seem to be a lot more connected than others. That’s really the basis of the piece— not to say that faceoffs are a garbage stat to throw away, but to say that there are other stats that are much more important for teams winning hockey games.

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by Mr. Plank on Nov 11, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The most important stat

I think you’re spot on with the point about the lack of 1:1 correlation between faceoff wins and game wins. There’s at least 6 or 7 steps between winning a faceoff and scoring a goal. And there are a good 20-30 steps between scoring a goal and winning a game. This probably helps to break the direct link between winning and losing.

I do remember one particular breakdown Drew did on Joe in the faceoff circle (I forget which game).

In period one, Joe was getting smoked in the circle, and Drew showed highlights. Joe would skate up and just put his stick down. Period 2, Joe was getting invested in the faceoff. He moved deliberately, engaged his opposing centreman, and win the draws. Sharks had a better period.

Maybe the key there wasn’t as much about Joe winning the faceoff. But getting Joe into the game. Another reason why the draw might be a skewed stat. The win doesn’t matter as much as beating the other guy if that makes sense.

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by ElvisVF101 on Nov 11, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s at least 6 or 7 steps between winning a faceoff and scoring a goal.

Except if you’re Pavelski: win faceoff, get puck, shoot, score (2:00 into this video).

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by mymclife on Nov 11, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you watch that highlight in super slo mo

You’ll actually see Pavelski do the dance of awesome before he shoots, so there were still 6 steps to the goal.

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by ElvisVF101 on Nov 12, 2009 1:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

winning the face off is more a matter of will than skill so if a Shark wins the face off, that usually means he wants it more and that mentality carries into the shift.

by Mr Tea on Nov 11, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So… are you saying that the player with the most heart wins the faceoff? But the Sharks lead the league in faceoff percentage, and we all know that they have no heart!

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by mymclife on Nov 11, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kapow!

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by Mr. Plank on Nov 11, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know we hate it when people say this but...

None of it matters until the playoffs…

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by ElvisVF101 on Nov 12, 2009 1:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is winning faceoffs better than losing them? Of course. When the range of winning percentages typically varies between 47-53%, however, there just isn’t a big difference in that regard between various teams. If you have 50 faceoffs in a given game, that means you’d expect a better FO team to perhaps win 5 extra draws or so over the course of the contest.

Can we isolate cases where winning a draw led to a goal? Sure, but in the big picture, I just don’t see it as a significant difference-maker between teams.

Good stuff, Plank.

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by Dirk Hoag on Nov 11, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

how awesome is it that those numbers are going to go up with pavs back now?

by awok6 on Nov 11, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If you asked any coach, fan, or player right before a faceoff whether they would prefer to win or lose the faceoff, you would get the same answer. Win.

So both teams hope to win the faceoff, and we don’t just do it more than half the time, we do it more often than any other team.

I’m happy any time our team can do something that everyone wants to do.

It would be interesting to see this stat paired with some sort of turnover stat. By the very definition of a faceoff win, you must possess the puck after the draw. If you don’t turn it over, then you got a shot on net. Shots on net are closely tied to winning.

I agree a faceoff win isn’t all it takes to win games, but it’s one more turnover you don’t have to force.

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Nov 11, 2009 7:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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