Shark Prospects Nov 1-7

by buddahead9 on Nov 8, 2009 8:28 AM PST

Always enjoyed the information about prospects shared on AN. So I thought I'd track the stats of some of the Sharks prospects.

Worcester

Jones- 3 GMs, 1 power play goal, 1 assist, 0 +/-, 7 shots

Zalewski- 3 GMs, 2 goals (1 PPG, 1 SHG) 0 +/-, 9 shots

Joslin- 1 GM, -1, 6 shots

Petrecki- 3 GMs, 2 assists, +3, 5 shots, 4 PIM

Sexsmith- 1 GM, win, 14 saves, 1 GA, 1 assist

Stalock- 2 GMs, 1-1-0, 123:38, 61 saves, 3 GA

College

Justin Braun- 1 GM, +1, 1 shot

Justin Daniels- 1 GM, 1 shot, 4/9 faceoffs

Drew Daniels, 1 GM, 1 shot

Patrick White- 3 GMs, 3-1-4, 2 PPG, +2, 7 shots, 12/28 faceoffs

William Wrenn- 2 GM, 3 shot, 8 PIM

Juniors

Samuel Groulx- 3 GMs, 1-1-2, 5 shots, +3, 2 PIM

Taylor Doherty- 3 GMs, 3 assists, +1 (can’t find individual shot stats for OHL)

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Great stuff, and if the numbers are any indication, it looks like Petrecki is starting to turn it around.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 8, 2009 2:44 PM PST reply actions

Looks like Patrick White put up some points.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Nov 8, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions

Don't we want him to fail?

Draft pick!!

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by idunno723 on Nov 8, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions

Is there compensastion if he isn't signed?

I keep seeing people say there is… or there isn’t. Which is it?!

by buddahead9 on Nov 9, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions

If he isn’t retained, I think it’s a second.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 8:06 AM PST up reply actions

IIRC, the 55th overall pick.

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by mymclife on Nov 9, 2009 8:49 AM PST up reply actions

You are correct, ~~sir~~ miss.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions

It’s a win win either way. But, personally, I want to see him develop because good prospects are not a bad thing.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions

And he represents GR, MN, baby! Like Jon Casey and Alex Goligoski!

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by stufflife on Nov 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions

Apparently he’s lightning fast and has a hard shot, but the “want to” isn’t there. Maybe he’s finally putting it together.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions

I’m reading comments about his play, and apparently he’s just not really trying all that hard, and is really lackadaisical. Still putting up the points, but not really doing much else. Kind of reminds me of Kaspar, and I don’t think any of us want a repeat of him.

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by mymclife on Nov 9, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions

That's always been the knock on him

and you know old perceptions die hard. I’m going to say that he’s turning it around until I hear different, I’d rather have Patrick White with met potential then the uncertainty of a 55th pick.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions

Speaking of Kaspar

He signed with the Flyers, but now he’s playing in Finland!? How does that work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luk%C3%A1%C5%A1_Ka%C5%A1par

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by Morti on Nov 9, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions

They put him on waivers a few weeks ago so they could release him from his contract. Rumor is that he asked to be put on waivers because he wasn’t getting a shot at the NHL (Flyers recalled other guys before him when there were injuries).

And, from what I was hearing, he was playing just like he was in Worcester. That is, not really playing.

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by mymclife on Nov 9, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions

Shame

Him and Scott Hartnell could have been mad hair buddies…

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by Morti on Nov 9, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions

Account inactive. Oh darn.

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by mymclife on Nov 9, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions

Weird

Lets try again

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by Morti on Nov 9, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions

Holy crap, that’s like, Joe Thornton at the draft epic.

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by mymclife on Nov 9, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions

Thing is...

he’s not a very good prospect.

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by idunno723 on Nov 9, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions

Thing is, he is a first round pick still in college who has had a slow start in his first two college seasons.

I still think he’s got a shot to be impressive. I’ve never seen him skate, but I’m guessing you haven’t either. If he keeps putting up points, I’ll keep the faith.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions

Good point

but isn’t the bust rate higher then the success rate?

He hasn’t put up the most encouraging numbers in his first two years and making a big jump will be tough to do so.

This is a weird feeling… i never argue against a player’s success haha

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by idunno723 on Nov 9, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions

We’ll he’s not yet 21 and Vancouver thought enough of him to take him in the first round. He’s having a solid season against pretty tough competition, so I’mma go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt through 8 games.

The Sharks have an interesting opportunity here, to either retain him or recieve a pick. If he continues on this path, I think they go with the former.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions

And as far as the numbers go, he’s scored 6 points (3G, 3A) in 8 games this year, following only 16 (7G, 9A) in 36 games in his Sophmore year and 10 (6G, 5A) in 45 games his Freshman year.

How do we know he’s not finally turning it around?

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions

Well...

8 games is a very small sample size (Wooo SSS argument!?). Hot start could be a fluke for all we know. Even if he does put up good numbers it doesn’t necessarily mean he will put up those numbers in the NHL. Maybe he’ll be a Goc?

What I’m trying to say is past performances usually indicate how a player will play. Players don’t usually make a huge turn-around but if he does I wouldn’t mind.

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by idunno723 on Nov 9, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions

NHL players usually don’t, but prospects sometimes do. Eight games is a small sample size, but it points to an improvement. He has the tools to be a top 2 center, and it’s never been a question of skill. It’s been a question of desire.

The “he’s not a good prospect because he’s not a good prospect” argument is circular at best. IIRC, no one thought Vesce was a very good prospect either, until he made the team.

White may have those two slow seasons working against him, but I wouldn’t think that he has to “turn it around” yet. This is his first real hockey experience, and maybe he just has a longer learning curve than others. He has the skills, he’s got time to grow.

I still think he’s a C-level prospect, but I’d take that over the uncertainty of the 55th selection, especially if White continues to play solid college hockey.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Nov 9, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions

Okay,

you’re the prospect guy! (compliment. Just in case that was misleading)

Is he a “Wouldn’t be surprised if he made it, but wouldn’t be surprised if he busts guy”? And is a 2nd round pick that risky? I probably have too much confidence in Sharks drafting.

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by idunno723 on Nov 9, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions