Dan Boyle Possibly Injured; Updates To Follow

[UPDATE, SUNDAY] WTC Reports that Dan Boyle's injury appears to be nothing serious. The Sharks official pagesays the same. H/T to Megs and sharks in oc for the tip.
[UPDATE, SATURDAY] Per Dave Pollak at WTC, McLellan says it's too early to tell how serious Dan Boyle's injury is. For those of you waiting up for news, looks like you'll have to wait for tomorrow.
At the end of the San Jose Sharks 2-1 loss to the Phoenix Coyotes on Saturday, Taylor Pyatt checked Dan Boyle into the boards with roughly 5 seconds remaining in the game. Following the play Boyle was slow to get up, taking nearly a minute to get off the ice, and had to be helped off by two teammates.
Updates and video will follow.
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I was listening on the radio and it sounded like he finished a check at the end, and it was not dirty. I know you have to play to the final whistle, but in a regular season game up 2-1 with the other team not likely to come back, it seems a little much. I would have to see the replay to know however.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 12, 2009 8:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At least
IT’S NOT LUPUS
It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
by strongrobot on Dec 12, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's always sarcaidosis
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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 13, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I got it!!
Vlassic and Clowe for Pronger….
by skilletboy on Dec 12, 2009 9:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Fuck
Fuck December. This month needs to end.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
by marcello on Dec 12, 2009 9:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
exactly what i was thinking
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by serrapadre716 on Dec 13, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is really unfortunate. At least Sharks play just once in the next 8 days and hopefully that will be enough for Boyle to rest and recover. I can’t imagine this team without him.
Overall though, what a one bad effort up until the last 10 minutes of the game. I think it all started with McLellan who decided to “mix things up” and put dead Setoguchi on the first line. If players are supposed to earn their starts, what did Seto do to deserve any other role but 4th line role? Mitchell also should take a trip back to Worcester – he’s by far our worst player and contributes absolutely nothing.
Sometimes I really have a hard time understanding McLellan’s logic. When we’re winning, and guys are scoring (Vesce or Couture), Worcester shuttle is in full action and players go back and forth, even after good games. We get on a losing streak and dead players like McGinn, Joslin and McLaren keep their roster spots.. Why?
by Ivano27 on Dec 12, 2009 9:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I bet we will see the Worcester shuttle in full effect this week. Demers has been playing well, and the Zalewski-Couture-Ferriero combo has been tearing it up last I heard. I don’t know what it is about Mitchell, but I think his game will come back. I mean, he did miss two years of hockey and has only played in 13 or so games this year.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 12, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they can send
Mitchell down to Worcester without having to clear waivers. I may be wrong though.
by BillytheSid on Dec 12, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No new info per WTC.
And, as the link says, the Captain steps forward and sees the losing streak as concerning.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 12, 2009 10:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The link is not working – I think the blog is down.
But I’m glad Blake is seeing a cause for concern. It’s about damn time.
by Ivano27 on Dec 12, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pay me now or pay me later
Has anybody noticed the Sharks record against Western Conference playoff bound teams, if the season ended today? That is a meager 3-11, if you care. The current trend is only a symptom of a larger issue. For those who bleed teal, as I do, this is rediculous! While the syle that has been implemented by our youthful coach is entertaining, during the regular season, it shall result most probably just like last year. I see this as the NHL’s equivalent to the Run and Shoot tried in the NFL (without success), or "Nellie" ball that Warrior Fans have had to stomach for years in the NBA. I think the slogan goes something like Defense wins, oh yeah thats right I remember now…Championships! Then I suppose no defense wins, what…an early exit from the playoffs. I pray the day shall come that Doug Wilson will realize his biggest mistake, hiring a barely 40 year old inexperienced NHL head coach to lead one of the leagues most talent rich teams, in their prime I might add. Doug Wilson must take responsibility and own up to this. Nobody is perfect, but the sooner he realizes his mistake, the sooner he can correct it and our chances will increase to utilize our personnel to win. I sound like a broken record on this issue, but I guess the truth hurts.
by sharkvenom on Dec 13, 2009 12:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Actually it's 3-7-4.
That doesn’t seem much of a difference but it is. I don’t take much stock for skills-competition losses because they could have gone either way.
So for my argument pretend they went 7-7. That’s not as great as you want it to be, but remember this is still the first half of the season. Before the season, nearly half the roster changed. We knew that this team was going to struggle and it didn’t come as a surprise. With the talent on this team they’re going to play well, but right now they’re struggling. They’re still adjusting on being such a new team. Even Joe Thornton had to adjust because his new goal-scoring buddy has a left-handed shot, unlike past linemates.
Worrying about the record is silly. In the playoffs does that record matter? I think Anaheim is a good example about that.
What’s wrong with hiring a barely 40 year old inexperience coach? I mean they gotta start somewhere. And Todd McLellan isn’t even that “inexperienced.” He’s been coaching since 1993 and was named coach of the year of the WHL in 2000. In 2003 he won the Calder Cup. Since 2005 he was assistant coach to the Red Wings until he became head coach here.
Doug Wilson’s responsible for what? Putting a absolutely ridiculous line-up out there? Joe Thornton + Dany Heatley is pretty crazy.
Oh and paragraphs are nice.
by idunno723 on Dec 13, 2009 1:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a little too late at night for this reply?
If you read your reply again after a good night sleep, you will probably wish you had refrained until you had a clear head. Its ok, fanatics have a hard time sleeping even when they are in denial. I respect your defensive stand for your team, and wish I could only be as possitive and supportive. Amazing, somehow you have taken something so difinative as a loss and magically turned it into a W. I am cracking up right now.
Also, thanks for the bio on blockhead. I am aware of his backround, and that is why I specified inexperienced NHL head coach. Genius move, giving a coach his first shot with a team poised to win a cup immediately!
Just to straighten the record, in my comments I hammered Doug Wilson for his coaching choice not his personnel decisions.
by sharkvenom on Dec 13, 2009 7:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey chill out
He was saying that if not for the shootout, we would have won those games. I’d respect his opinion.
Todd may only be in his second year of coaching at the NHL level, but it doesn’t mean he’s a bad coach. But, I’ll respect your opinion, you can think he’s bad. That’s fine with me.
by ohmymarleau on Dec 13, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
easy there
both of you have good points
but what i think idunno is trying to say is that it’s still a little early to be making assumptions like that.
about half the team is new, they need time, they have time, they have until may/june to figure it out. that’s when it counts. i’ll hold off my opinion until then.
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by serrapadre716 on Dec 13, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ah
I was trying to be nice and elaborate, but if you think Todd McLellan is the problem you are crazy.
I personally like how you refuted my ideas. Like when you said T-Mac was inexperienced and you used the record as your evidence, then I said that it shouldn’t be taking in account since the only thing that matters is the playoffs, an idea I presume you believe in. Then after that you called me sleepy. Damn I got burned.
The only basis for your argument is Todd’s inexperience. Right here you already make the assumption that hiring him was a mistake:
Nobody is perfect, but the sooner he realizes his mistake, the sooner he can correct it and our chances will increase to utilize our personnel to win. I sound like a broken record on this issue, but I guess the truth hurts.
How can you already believe that? It’s only 34 games into the season. What I was trying to say in my last post, if you didn’t catch on, there’s one thing we’ve should have learned from last season: Take a guess. The first 34 games in a season don’t matter.
by idunno723 on Dec 13, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't misunderstand my tone
I really enjoy the back and forth this forum provides. Neither one of us probably cares who ends up eventually being correct. I’m sure for everyone here, it’s about winning the Cup.
I do agree wholeheartedly with the regular season record point. I’ve seen it happen time and again, as I’m sure by your knowledge displayed you have as well. The only difference I have is that I was not a fan of blockhead last year either. While it is a possitive if your #8 team beats a #1 it is equally a negative if our #1 team loses that same match up in the playoffs.
Look, I think it is about defense. Blockheads style if fun to watch, but I am afraid come playoffs the results are not what we want. With all due respect to blockhead, maybe he is a great coach, just not a Head Coach in the NHL. Not every great coach makes a great Head Coach. For his sake, maybe he should have been given an opportunity with a lesser team at this level. Then he would be able to prove if he was a good Head Coach. This team has been stacked since his arrival. I am rambling now, and I know his record. I think any NHL Head Coach could match his record with the talent he has been provided. In fact if there was a little more of a defensive mind coaching this team, they may be unstoppable?
by sharkvenom on Dec 13, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Wilson was a defensive minded coach.
by Ivano27 on Dec 13, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Wilson
Look, we can agree to disagree. You will admit, i’m sure, that Ron Wilson never had this much talent. Or last years roster for that matter, right?
Please, Doug Wilson began stacking this team with even more talent only after he fired Ron Wilson. Also, some of the younger talent has steadily improved, as is typical with maturity, since the other coaches departure.
“Listen to me now and believe me later” – Hans & Franz of Saturday Night Live… It just would have been nice if Doug Wilson had a better coach to replace Ron. Instead he fired him without an immediate replacement. How can anyone say that was a wise decision? Wait at least until you have someone lined up, waiting, and available. How could Doug know that blockhead would take the job, before the wings season was even over? Would that not have been tampering? Who cares…he should have waited until there was a better suited replacement. To get better than Ron Wilson, it would have had to be a veteran NHL Head Coach with a Stanley Cup Championship on the resume. Which more than likely would mean they would play very good defensively. Remember that Ron Wilson at least had two appearences in the Finals…just without success. That is a hell of a lot better than most NHL Head Coaches, right?
by sharkvenom on Dec 13, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two words:
Dan Bylsma.
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by mymclife on Dec 13, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Very true — that’s who I was thinking of throughout a lot of this discussion.
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by Earl Sleek on Dec 13, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How can anyone say that was a wise decision?
I think it was a good decision – in my opinion McLellan has been great. And I think he is exactly who DW wanted, not a backup he had to settle for because he couldn’t find a vet coach. He’s brought an energy to the team and I like the thigns he has to say and the way the team has played under him.
by a10dency2ask on Dec 13, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT WAS A WISE DECISION!!!
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by serrapadre716 on Dec 13, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Will you still love me tommorrow?
I wonder if you might feel the same way in a few months, especialy if the Sharks bow out in the first or second round again?
by sharkvenom on Dec 13, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'm in the minority
but playoffs aren’t my only measuring stick. Sometimes you can have the greatest coach of all time, and you still might lose in the first round.
by a10dency2ask on Dec 13, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Why do you think blockhead is a better coach than Ron Wilson at this point then?
by sharkvenom on Dec 13, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the regular seasons are more fun, the players seem to like him a lot better, there seems to be greater accountability, more improvement from bad spells, and less useless bickering/mindgames
by a10dency2ask on Dec 13, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Take
If Ron Wilson had this group would they be more likely to advance further into the playoffs? And let’s bend time for a moment and say they could win a Cup under Wilson now…would it still matter that the regular season would be more exciting, etc.? I guess what I am asking is, Do you want a Cup more than a TM team?
by sharkvenom on Dec 13, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if RW could win the cup with this team
then that’s one thing, and obviously I would rather have had that. But we have no way of knowing if that would have happened. It’s a new era now so let’s see what comes of it.
by a10dency2ask on Dec 13, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone can answer that question correctly
it’s sort of a half loaded question half red herring, though only lightly touching in both.
by sharks on Dec 13, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His style of play, meaning the one used in Detroit (traffic in front of the net, defense jumping into the play) fits our personell better.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 13, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point
While I’m not going to go out and say McLellan is the problem, I have fallen out of love with him as our head coach.
It started over the summer when I had time to look back on everything that had happened over the season and really take it in. I just don’t get some of the decisions he makes, line combos, strategy, etc.
However, I can’t say it’s all his fault either. Or even mostly his fault. It’s hard to tell. Some nights our guys just go out there with lead in their feet. They just don’t seem like they want to play. let alone win. (With the possible exception of Scotty Nichol, possibly the best acquisition over the summer including Heatley)
I dunno though… Personally, I’m a little worried about how things are going, but I’m not giving up by any stretch of the imagination.
by PNK on Dec 13, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same with spelling.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 13, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I read some of the thread here, and I hope I got everything
If you believe the system is the issue in terms of our defense playing poorly, I’d have to disagree.
I think it’s because our defense is just not very good. Dan Boyle and Douglas Murray are the only two defensemen we have at any point who have played like top 4 NHL D-man. Boyle for his transition game, Murray for his physicality.
Vlasic has had a very up and down season, seemingly mostly down, stemming from a lack of physicality.
Blake has had a respectable season, but continues to have injury problems on occasion, not unexpected at his age, and also due to bad luck it seems, but he’s still prone to the odd hooking/holding/interference.
We all miss Jason Demers I think, but he did get sent down because he was struggling. It’s good to hear that he’s rediscovering his game. I think the organization is doing a very difficult juggling act with him and Joslin, trying to ensure that they are getting games and grooming them for work with the big club. With defensemen this young and this talented, it’s important to give them confidence and put them in situations where they are going to succeed. I hardly expect the organization to do it perfectly, even if I want them too. We’re all only human. It’s a difficult thing they are trying to do, and I don’t envy them.
Huskins was the big gamble for this team. He looked good early in sheltered minutes, but with the injuries, he’s had to play in more pressure situations, and his game has suffered accordingly. I’m not as sour on him as some on this board, but he’s hardly a top 4 defenseman.
The organization as a whole, and Doug Wilson in general, took a gamble on stacking this team with forwards. It’s payed dividends for the most part. We DO have an excellent record and guys at the top of the league scoring lead. Right now, when the forwards are not producing, it looks bad.
If we want to talk playoffs, well, this is our struggles in a nutshell. This team does not score very many goals in the post season. We know Marleau’s numbers are good, and during his tenure in Ottawa, Heatley’s numbers were good, but we can’t pinpoint anyone else on this roster that’s had good postseason numbers.
Coach can’t score goals, coach can’t play defense. We tried a new coach, we had a great run and then faded going into the playoffs and it was reflected in a 4-2 series that wasn’t even that close.
I like Todd McLellan, probably more than you do, but I won’t say he hasn’t made coaching errors. But quite frankly, on game day, I’m of the school of thought that the coach can only do so much. He just puts guys on the ice. They have to be better than the guys they are matching up against. During this month, our top two lines have NOT matched up well with anyone we’ve played. Lines 3 and 4 have been respectable. On some nights, Line 3 has been our best line I’d argue. T-Mac can’t lace ‘em up and help lines 1 and 2. They gotta get the job done themselves. And right now, we see a lot of floating and gliding from those groups. Yeah, coach can fix some of that, but come game day, he can’t do so much.
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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 13, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of making a fanpost, I'll run my bullets here.......
…..Even though I don’t know how to make swanky bullet-like dots.
I was at the game tonight, Rocking my teal with pride, and I had a few possible epiphanies regarding our beloved Tiburones.
- First thing I noticed was ‘The Burger Line’ split. I know, I know, I hate the moniker too. But to take Heatley away from Jumbo was absolutely regoddamndiculous. Clowe and Pavs with a finisher like Heatley?! Are you fucking kidding me? Clowe and Pavs were absolutely useless out there with heatley. And I love them both, but that was oil and water. If you’re gonna switch things up ToddyMac, throw Patty the Everyman in there to even things out.
- Greiss. Greiss is a f*cking spaz. The Coyotes should have had 4 more goals due to his overzealous need to poke-check anything within thirty feet of him. He was constantly out of position, and the ‘Yotes missed 3 wide open nets because he was floundering around the hash marks like a fish out of water. THAT BEING SAID…….. The kid has insane reflexes, a butterfly style that makes Turco look like a geriatric snail, and fantastic puck awareness. If someone taught him some patience, and how NOT to slide around on his pads as a means to not get caught out of position, I’d say let Nabby go and use the money on some quality defensive defensemen. Greiss is quite the spaz, but WE SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT A LITTLE LATVIAN WHO TURNED OUR FRANCHISE INTO A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH. He’s got potential, that’s all I’m sayin’. I’m officially drinking the Greiss Kool-Aid.
- Vlasic. Absolutley terrible. I have understood the possible upside of this kid, and I’m sure it’s possible it will come to fruition, but the kid looks like a cracked out squirrel once any type of stick is near him. He’s wasting a good lineup spot, which brings me to my next point.
- Joslin. – Rookies are prone to make rookie mistakes. And as it pertians to Joslin, it seems his only fault is that he’s overly aggressive because he doesn’t want to get sent back to Worcester. That’s a wonderful idea, but at times it leaves him out of position, with the only person to cover him being…. Vlasic.
- Blake . Trade him for JR, I’m done with this Father Time “wise sage” shit.. He’s decent, and a wonderful locker room presence. But for the money he’s getting paid, we don’t need a decent, wandering eye on the ice.
- The reffing tonight was absolutely the worst I have ever seen in person. Any Coyote would fall down, an orange armband was in the air. Listening to Coyote fans cheer as if the refs were right made me want to vomit. The penalties called on the Yotes were marginal at best, and they seemed to all be make-up calls for raping the Sharks for earlier transgressions ( Transgressions! Thanks for the new vocab word, Tiger!)/ I read the article somewhere about hwo the home team almost always has the advantage as it pertians to penalties being called, but tonight was atrocious. Whoever called that came should be fired, dragged onto the ice, shot, then ran over repeatedly by the Zamboni, Making bad calls consistently is one thing. Making them blatantly obvious is just poor form.
- Heatley worked his balls off. Even with zero help, he still managed to figure something out. Here’s to hoping Clowe gets his skates sharpened, takes some skating lessons, and realizes you should shoot AT the net, not 15 FEET IN ANY GODDAMN DIRECTION.
- The majority of the game, the Sharks looked sluggish. I don’t know if they’re tired, or what. Only after Heatley scored did anyone remotely resemble having a spring in thier step. Games are 60 minutes, kids. The intensity I saw in the last three minutes needs to be there from the opening drop. I shouldn’t have to repeat this, nor did I think I would have to. if someone doesn’t pop their head out of the mud soon, this trend is going to continue, with similar results.
- Reffing aside, the Coyotes are a dangerous team. Sure, they had help tonight, but even if they didn’t, we’d probably be looking at a Shootout…Again.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Dec 13, 2009 3:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
yup
you should shoot AT the net, not 15 FEET IN ANY GODDAMN DIRECTION.
i think that applies to everyone on the team, not just clowe
and i don’t like heatley one the 2nd line either, i’d put marleau there
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by serrapadre716 on Dec 13, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You brought up some good points.
Besides Boyle possibly getting injured, nothing pissed me off more last night than seeing Heatley skate on the 2nd line next to Pavs (for the first time since the damn trade!) and then again be used in a mop up duty on the 2nd PP unit. The goal that he scored spoke volumes – “I don’t give a damn about Clowe and the rest just standing there, I’ll just use my signature shot to get us back into the game”. It also sucks that Setoguchi had at least three scoring changes on other PPs easy delivered to him from Jumbo, but wasted them with easy shots straight to Bryzgalov’s chest. Heatley would have buried those with his eyes closed.
Why spend three months trying to build chemistry between Jumbo and Heater, and then throw it all to the dogs just for the sake of some experiment? Are four losses in a row a good time to experiment? Seriously, what other team puts their top goalscorer on 2nd line and 2nd PP unit? Do we ever see Ovechkin, Iginla, Crosby, Kovalchuk on the 2nd line and on the 2nd PP unit? That’s just rediculous. In fact, Ovechkin typically spends all 2 minutes on the PP out there, as does Kovy.
This team needs a big shake up. Let’s send a bunch of people down to Worcester (I’ve seen enough of Joslin for weeks to come), lets resurrect the Burger Line, let’s put inept and fearful Seto back to the 4th line where he belongs and let’s stop playing on the edge of penalty in every situation. Oh yeah, and let’s kick some ass and start fighting again. This team looked too timid last night.
by Ivano27 on Dec 13, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I have to agree with pretty much everything you’ve said here.
To focus in on one thing, I also really really don’t get the moving of Heatley to the 2nd line. He doesn’t belong there. He needs to be on Joe’s wing. That’s the whole reason he was brought here, so we had a pure goal scorer to put on Joe’s wing. It’s a huge waste of fucking space to put him on a forward line that is more of a defensive specialty line (to an extent). Marleau fit in very very well on that line when he was there before. Put him there again. Put Heatley back with Joe. And if you really want Seto to be on Joe’s line, fine, but I’d much rather see Malhotra, or Nichol, or McGinn, or a recalled Vesce there right now.
The one thing about McLellan that drives me nuts is the constant line tinkering. For the most part I think he’s been a fine coach, but lines never seem to be allowed to work together for an extended period and get comfortable with one another. At the beginning of the season, we had:
Heatley-Thornton-Setoguci
Marleau-Pavelski-Clowe
and that seemed to work really really well. Its nice we have players that can play all over the place, but that doesn’t mean we have to be constantly testing that theory out!
Ugh, these are going to be a long 4 days between games, isn’t it?
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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 13, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Though I think my opinion is valued the least around here
I also do not understand Mclellan’s shuffling of the lines at times. He did the same thing right off the bat in the playoffs last year. He has no patience. He is such a p*ssy he’s not willing to be confident in what got him there.
I don’t know enough about hockey to be able to criticize the scheme that he has implemented with the Sharks but I do know enough about chemistry to see that what he attempts does not work. Those two top lines……….along with Nichol are the only thing right about the Sharks this year. Shuffling them around is not the answer to this problem.
Outside of Boyle, Murray, and Huskins (wait did I just say that?) most everyone on the Sharks defense have played with zero consistency this year. I don’t know what happened to Vlasic…….I saw him at Safeway the other day with some chick……maybe she’s the problem….and Blake is just old. He’s old and from the outside he looks like the wrong pick for Captain.
So here is what I have established with the above post.
Greiss still sucks.
Blake is old.
Huskins isnt as bad as we all thought he was going to be.
I feel bad for Setoguchi for being demoted for only being hurt but that top line is awesome.
I think Pavelski, Clowe, and Malhotra should get married and be together forever.
I think Mcginn is the future of our team so he should stay up.
We should bring Stalock up now so Sexsmith can play full time in Wooster.
Mclellan should be observed closely. I feel he lacks confidence.
The end.
by SanJoseLandShark on Dec 13, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I still cringe at the thought we traded away Rivet so we can afford Blake.
Who would we rather have now?
by Ivano27 on Dec 13, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rivet
I still miss him. I think it’s an attachment issue…
by ohmymarleau on Dec 13, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think everyone
is freaking out a little much about the line shuffling. The team has been playing terribly – seems to me a great time to try and mix things up to get the team going. What is a better time to switch up your lines than when you’ve given then several games in a row to pick things up and they haven’t been able to? Seems fine to me, there’s plenty of the season left and no reason to be stubborn
by a10dency2ask on Dec 13, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well color me glad I missed the game last night.
And it’s safe to say this news killed the good mood I was in after the Metallica show last night.
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by Lurker Shark on Dec 13, 2009 10:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone remember the early Sharks years, when they sucked?
They started turning things around once they asserted themselves physically. The mentality back then was something like ’ Well, if we’re not going to win on the scoreboard, we might as well mop them all over the ice".
With what I saw yesterday, every single Shark looked scared to hit. Phoenix players took extra care of the puck, skated into corners with no fear of someone breathing down their necks.
The talk of the Sharks being the most talented team in hockey seems to have gotten into everyone’s heads, as they all look like they’re trying to do their best Wayne Gretzky impersonation. Even the ‘all finnesse’ Detroit teams had guys who would bang, and create space for the danglers. I have seen none of that from San Jose, because everything has to look ‘pretty’. If you haven’t noticed, the rate of San Jose’s ‘junk goals’ has decreased, as no one is crashing the net for rebounds. And from what I saw, the majority of the passes on scoring chances are coming from behind the net. Sure Thornton likes to set up down low, but not EVERY SINGLE PERSON has to stand back there and try to feed Torrey Mitchell. Mitchell gets tossed around like a ragdoll in front of the net, and that should be something better suited for Clowe.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Dec 13, 2009 10:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I miss underdog Sharks
They lost a lot of games, but I never doubted their heart or their effort. There were just a lot of nights when, top to bottom, the other team was better and played like it.
These days, there’s a lot of nights when, top to bottom, we’re better and DON’T play like it. Anyone who rooted for the teams of Larionov, Baker, Whitney, Makarov, Rathje, Odgers, Irbe, remembers that we had no business playing other teams anywhere near close but did because the team played as a team.
Heck, even the later teams of Cheechoo, young Patty, Ricci, Scott Thornton, Sturm, Hannan and McLaren weren’t all that good but played bigger than themselves and scrapped their way to a lot of wins. I miss those teams too.
I still bleed teal, but it hurts a lot more these days because they team plays LESS than the sum of their parts too often, ESPECIALLY in the playoffs.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
by ElvisVF101 on Dec 13, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's the inherent trade-off though
it’s very very rare that the team that gives the most effort is also the most skilled
by a10dency2ask on Dec 13, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry Todd.
I was only joking when I said this:
Something needs to jump-start this team.
I say we fire T-mac.
No not because he’s a bad coach or anything. Because I wanted to say it first!
-The dude responsible for this mess
by idunno723 on Dec 12, 2009 6:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oops my bad.
by idunno723 on Dec 13, 2009 10:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Setoguchi-Couture-McGinn
You heard it here first.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Dec 13, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I am going to be that girl
That says they are glad they didn’t read this all because skimming it it looks like it a got a little nasty.
And because it was TL;DR do we have any info on Boyle?
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
by CTGray on Dec 13, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I read it
And it did. And I kind of wish I didn’t, because it’s pretty much useless arguing and it’s gotten me riled up and damnit, I don’t want to be riled up!
And yeah, what a10dency2ask said.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Dec 13, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
5-in-a-row winless streak means all the haters come out to play
by a10dency2ask on Dec 13, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh c'mon...
Debating is fun. And I say debating because it doesn’t sound as bad as arguing.
Oh and who’s better Gretzky or Lemeiux?
by idunno723 on Dec 13, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m alive enough to know it causes useless arguing
by idunno723 on Dec 13, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, no, it causes monkey pox.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
by CTGray on Dec 13, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A better question, who’s a better setup guy for Heatley – Thornton or Pavelksi?
by Ivano27 on Dec 13, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Pavs IS better
at screening the goalie and redirects. might be the best on the team, in fact.
by BillytheSid on Dec 13, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta give it to Thornton
Because Pavs only set him up for one goal. One! Meanwhile, Thornton set him up for 20 or something. I mean, it’s so easy to decide. And I’m going to completely ignore the fact that Pavelski has a small sample size because it’s ruining my argument!
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Dec 13, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of small sample sizes
i’m amazed at how brian sabean traded a great prospect for ryan garko, then lets him walk into free agency after only 100 at bats. how smart sabean is, he somehow knows that garko sucks after 100 at bats, just ignore all the past seasons of “better than ishikawa” hitting.
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by serrapadre716 on Dec 13, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that pisses me off
Especially because Garko was really different from all the other hitters the Giants have in that he actually has patience when up at bat. I went to one Giants game all of last season, and it ended up being a 5-1 loss against the Phillies (Sadowski was pitching, and we were one game off from Timmy Day, which made me sad). Garko was probably the highlight of the game, since he somehow managed to get a 13 pitch at-bat that ended in a walk. I honestly don’t think any other batter in the Giants lineup was – or is – capable of that kind of patience. And that’s what saddens me, that they’re going away from that, when they KNOW it doesn’t work. I mean, hello, one of the worst OBP in the league!
Sorry, just kind of went on a rant there.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Dec 13, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
don't be stupid
we all know that greiss is the best setup man for heatley
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by serrapadre716 on Dec 13, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There might be one silver lining
And this is really grasping for straws, but if he is hurt and has to be put on IR, this would give us some cap relief, right? Hopefully he’s not hurt bad obviously.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
by marcello on Dec 13, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
there’s no silver lining when you lose a player like Dan Boyle.
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
by Teas on Dec 13, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YEAH IF BOYLE IS HURT MAYBE WE CAN TRADE FOR BRIAN CAMPBELL
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Dec 13, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If we did, he would just walk after a few months to be “closer to his family”
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 13, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
update!
The sharks official facebook page just reported that it “appears nothing serious happened to Dan Boyle at the end of the Phoenix game”
by sharks in oc on Dec 13, 2009 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's great news.
I went to college with Danny. I hope he’s OK.
I must have this thing for hockey boys from Whitby with the initials JN.
by Happy Girl on Dec 13, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sharks have a facebook page? Time to go find it.
by Ivano27 on Dec 13, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
full update..
San Jose Sharks The weekend wasn’t kind with the game results, but the good news is it appears nothing serious happened to Dan Boyle at the end of the Phoenix game.
by Ivano27 on Dec 13, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well that’s one good news … now if they can find a way to stop the slide
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Dec 13, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is such amazing news. Losing him to injury just would have opened up a can of worms.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Dec 13, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Boyle takes full responsibility for his injury and some players respond to the point made that they didn’t respond after Boyle was hurt.
by Megs on Dec 14, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Taylor Pyatt is still on notice.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
by CTGray on Dec 14, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
loved the Colbert pic you posted on CT
by AfroPuff on Dec 14, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
:D
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
by CTGray on Dec 15, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow last thing I expected. Get better Boyle
by idunno723 on Dec 14, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, a lot of fans drink the media’s koolaid about this team waaay too much. first complaints about the coach and the system (the team seems to get along well with the coach and the system has worked pretty darn well for detroit the past few years). then complaining about lack of depth defensively, although the team even after this little two week slip is still 7th in the league in fewest goals given up. yes, they have hit a rough patch the past 10 days…all teams go through their rough patches during the season. and even then…they still got points out of 3 of the 5 losses. a trend they went on last year. they don’t go on regular losing streaks as they are still gaining points, so even when playing poorly..teams still have to give up a point to beat the sharks most nights. the only alarming thing is the western conference record.
then there is the talk about the sharks fading out in the playoffs last year. the media can spew that card as much as they want, but that still ignores the situation as a whole. the sharks had 6-9 starters out for the entire second half, didnt have them all back until the first game of the playoffs and threw a team out of there of cold guys who hadnt played in months against the current hottest team down the stretch. thats just unfortunate luck.
the only bothersome thing for me with the team is the lack of skating and answer to forecheck pressure. teams are just going to keep having two guys in pressuring if you don’t open up the ice by moving your feet and making simple/smart plays. i guess this rant stems for being stuck being a fan of many other sporting teams that are in the basement and no signs of daylight anytime soon. haha. the sharks will be fine.
by dannyschmanny on Dec 14, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Wow, that’s exactly how I feel danny. Couldn’t have said it better.
by Nael M. on Dec 14, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
by CTGray on Dec 15, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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