Fear the Fincentric Trade Talk

TSN: The Hit List (names in play)

DEFENSE

Jay Bouwmeester (FLA)
Niclas Havelid (ATL)
Tomas Kaberle (TOR)
Filip Kuba (OTT)
Pavel Kubina (TOR)
Chris Pronger (ANA)
Brendan Witt (NYI)

FOWARDS

Nik Antropov (TOR)
Colby Armstrong (ATL)
Marian Gaborik (MIN)
Doug Weight (NYI)
Bill Guerin (NYI)
Olli Jokinen (PHX)
Chris Neil (OTT)
Mark Recchi (TAM)
Ryan Smyth (COL)
Keith Tkachuk (STL)

Long standing rumors suggest the Bruins are very interested in Pronger. A recent development states Burke is trying to ~~convince Lauren Pronger~~ bring the $6.25 million dollar D-man to Toronto.

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by SwisherThresher on Feb 27, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Unbelievable, really, how 10 UFAs can’t make the list but Pronger does. It may turn out to be true, but I refuse to believe it’s in any way logical.

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by Earl Sleek on Feb 27, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

10 Anaheim UFAs, that is.

http://www.battleofcali.com/

by Earl Sleek on Feb 27, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree with you Sleek, but it might be more of a product of getting big names on the list. All of those names are guys that could be considered team changers.

Travis Moen and Rob Niedermayer don’t exactly make head lines ya know?

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by Mr. Plank on Feb 27, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

WOW

That is a lot of links.

So, it looks like the Sharks probably won’t trade anyone or trade for someone this year.

Am I right?

Last year when the Sharks traded for Brian Campbell (boo) it came out of nowhere (right?) so anything is possible (right?)

(I’m not much of an expert of NHL trades so that’s why I have so many “rights?”. I don’t say “right?” so I seem always correct..)

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Just saw this on Yahoo if anyone's interested

San Jose Sharks: Buyers
But not late and not active ones. Once everyone is healthy, which is, well, just about now, the Sharks have the depth and talent to win. The only place they might want to look is on defense, just because a team never has enough playoff-experienced depth. They’ll sell S.J. Sharkie and advertising rights to TV color analyst’s Drew Remenda’s bald head to win the Cup.

What company would we like to see on Drew’s head?

by Chicago Shark on Feb 27, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t mind seeing the Vlasic Pelican

by ktice on Mar 11, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Things I don't want to see

Pronger in Boston. Not this season, anyway.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 3:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Or in New Jersey. But he’s going to one of those, I’d imagine – unless Burke can get him for big bucks. Ron Wilson should have fun with that.

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by Mr. K. on Feb 27, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I have to admit

a moment of “Whew!” when I heard about Burke courting Chrissy. I doubt it’ll happen, but hey, he’s got a ring, so….maybe

I do wonder, what does everyone think of Niedemeyer if DW pulled one out of the hat? I’m not advocating it by any means, just curious what others might think?

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I have to add

I haven’t looked at numbers, so I don’t know how they’d make that fit under the cap. I can see Anaheim liking Cheech for him though

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Though expect the Bay Area to cry “foul” for dealing Cheechoo (a career-long Shark) in a year when we’re in the running for the Cup. I think people are starting to realize he won’t be around next year, but an offseason trade, post playoffs, is less “backstabbing” then mid-season – or so my Cheechoo loving (female) friends tell me.

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by Mr. K. on Feb 27, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nieds cap hit is at 6.75 million, and even though it’s prorated (meaning he’ll take somewhere upwards of 2 million in room), the Sharks would need to send roughly that much salary over to Anaheim for the deal to work. Just a quick glance at the roster, here’s a proposed deal. I’m not advocating this by the way, just tossing it out for discussion:

Deal 1
Christian Ehrhoff- 3.1
Jonathan Cheechoo- 3.0
Draft Pick?

I’m guessing Murray is looking for young players, so not sure this deal would even work. Ehrhoff is a young D who could compliment Whitney in terms of puck movers on their blueline.

Deal 2
Milan Michalek- 4.3
Brad Lukowich or Ehrhoff- 1.5 and 3.1 respectively

Definitely a better deal for the Ducks.

Nieds would most likely be a rental, and I don’t think he would resign with the Sharks after the season. I don’t really see DW giving the green light on this- we’d have to give up too much young talent to make it happen.

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by Mr. Plank on Feb 27, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd pull the pin

On option nr 1 in a heartbeat…but no way on nr 2.

I’m in the “hoping to sign Michalek AND Bouch during the summer” camp

Wait, is it Michalek or Clowe we need to sign this summer? Shit, damned Zinfandel clouds my memory

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Clowe

I think. I want us to keep him. DW, seriously. please KEEP CLOWE.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Same as you Sir

I would much rather do Deal 1

And I believe it is Clowe

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s Clowe.

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by That'll Cheech You on Feb 27, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I’m with you on pulling the trigger on number one, but I doubt Bob Murray would go for it. Cheech doesn’t have the allure he did three years ago, and they could definitely get a lot more for Nieds than that.

Michalek is signed for like seventeen years (six I think). Clowe needs to put the ink on.

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by Mr. Plank on Feb 27, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well

Clowe and Michalek need to be a part of the team for several years. I wouldn’t advocate trading either.
On the other hand, perhaps Murray sees a change in scenery for Cheech as a benefit. He is a Rocket trophy winner…..but let me be clear. I am not in the ’trade Cheech camp" just putting some theories up for speculation.

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

honestly,

i don’t think there is great demand out there otherwise he would be gone, but what do I know.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You could be right

but then again….DW is crafty. I think if he’s gonna pull the pin on anything he’ll get what he thinks is a good deal

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

in DW we trust,

i really want to trade cheech, but we might need him our 3/4 line production has been terrible

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and that's a good point

giving up 3/4 line production for D…if that’s the way they go. I don’t see them trading Cheech for another forward, so it’s gotta be for D. And I don’t see anyone else getting traded….Cheech is it as far as I see. I understand the Clowe thing, with his RFA, but I just don’t see DW letting him go.

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no that i think about it,

the only way we don’t get him is probably the contract length, but we could still probably do it

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

IMO, Cheech is being held onto because he’s insurance in case someone on one of the top two lines is injured. He’s played well with all the main guys before, but just isn’t as consistently effective as they are, hence his position on the third line.

Plus, we’ve seen how much his production goes up when with a non-offensively-challenged center; if DW manages to trade for one/Mitchell comes back and dominates, then Cheech will only help make the third line into a scoring threat.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Way to get this going Swisher. I’m going to front page it and bump it up every morning.

Rec-city.

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by Mr. Plank on Feb 27, 2009 3:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Just checking in before I have to leave

My flight is in 5 hours, but I have tons of stuff to do in the meantime. I head to JFK, then to Burlington, VT, where I’ll rent a car and drive to Montreal. Got a suite downtown for $80 USD – steal of a deal.

I bring this up to say that trade stuff might go down w/o my immediate knowledge.

Game wrap will be up late tomorrow night – but I suppose it will still be early, given the time change.

Totally random – what the hell happened to KindaFantastic? She went to the Boston game, and then disappeared. The thought occurred to me yesterday.

At any rate, keep the fort down for me. GO SHARKS.

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by Mr. K. on Feb 27, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Have a great time time K

and a safe trip. Wish I could go with you.

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That IS weird. No idea what happened.

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by That'll Cheech You on Feb 27, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

to her.

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by That'll Cheech You on Feb 27, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

fell of the face of the earth

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s never good…

WHERE ARE YOU KINDAFANTASTIC!?!?!?

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

nope,

that’s weird, i didn’t know you could fall OF the face of the earth

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Kunitz puts the Pens up 2-0 on the Hawks, roughly 9min into the game

That didn’t take long.

About the fanpost, thanks Mr.Plank for tidying up the top and posting it to the main page.

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by SwisherThresher on Feb 27, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

i'd add

lecavalier to your list, although almost positive he won’t be dealt

montreal should be active during the deadline as well as new york

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

also,

if the sharks are going to make a deal this deadline I believe that the guy to trade would be clowe, to me it’s unlikely that we resign the guy and we could probably get maximum value for him at the moment because of production

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Isn’t he going to be a restricted free agent? (whatever that means…)

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i'll check

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yup

He’ll be an RFA, which means that we’ll get picks if he’s signed to an offer sheet and DW decides not to match it (the number and quality of the picks depends on how much money he’ll get – but, since he’ll command a relatively high price, I’m seeing some first and second rounders).

IMO, signing Clowe is one of the first priorities DW should have this off-season (resigning Boucher is another, lol). He’s the definition of a power forward and already has great chemistry with the team. But even if we aren’t able to resign him, there will still be some return for the Sharks.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i just don't

see us being able to match someones offer, but who knows

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for clearing that up

I’ve always sort of known what an RFA means haha, I never really took the time to understand it.

I think DW should resign Clowe too, for the reasons you stated..

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No problem

Last summer, I made it my mission to find out the difference between RFA and UFA were. My first order of business? Finding out what RFA and UFA stood for.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

so what type of pick would we get for a 5 mill salary?

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure

I think we get a first and second, but I could be completely wrong.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

that would be good compensation

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yup,

he’s a restricted free agent, which doesn’t really matter it just means we have the ability to match anyones offer

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see

DW letting Clowe go. I think he’s gotta know what the guy means to this team and will do what’s necessary to keep him. Don’t forget Blake’s only signed for one year, so there’s plenty of cap room next year. I have to think that the reason he got Clowe to sign this year was a promise of things to come (cup and contract)

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 6:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

yeah so true,

i just looked up the info and blake will free up 5 million next year.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

I just can’t imagine DW, with his hockey sense, letting Clowe go. I gotta thing (wishfull thinking maybe) that he’ll make something happen for that guy. I don’t see anyone in the minors that can fill his role. If I can’t see it, I’m sure DW can’t either.

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't imagine Clowe's going anywhere.

I thought he made it pretty clear last offseason he wanted to stay in San Jose. Hopefully he still does.

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by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately

most of that is going to Pickles and Douglas. Their new contracts take them from 1.1 and .55 to 3.1 and 2.5 respectively.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

But a lot of that 5 million is tied up in raises to Murray and Vlasic, so there isn’t as much cap room as it may seem.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yup,

we actually only have 1 mil if you subtract pickles and murray from blake

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

pretty amazing ehrhoff makes 3.1 million

for all the **** he takes

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I think DW’s been hotter on Ehrhoff than most of us for a while.

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by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

he

commits a stupid penalty here and there, like last night, but i think he plays a lot better than he gets credit

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah and he is a hell of a skater.

He just needs to figure out he’s not Patty Marleau.

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by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Maybe McLellan can try the Semenov method with him – play him up at forward so that he can really understand what is needed from the defensemen. I mean, Semenov improved something like 1000% percent after his stint as a forward, it wouldn’t hurt to try the same with Ehrhoff.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

harsh

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

??

I’m not saying he’s bad – just that sometimes he’s off on his coverage to make an offensive play and puts himself in a position where he has to take a penalty in order to eliminate a scoring chance.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment of him.

He really seems like he forgets he’s supposed to be playing D sometimes. I cringe every time he tries to skate the puck into the zone through center ice. That usually doesn’t end well.

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by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a good point

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

if we resign clowe,

our line combinations could be scary next year, with all the youngsters improving, and taking a place with the big club,

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

the top six then…
mcginn, couture, vesce, shelley, mitchell and cheech???

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be awesome

Although I wouldn’t be adverse to Couture spending a year in the minors instead of coming directly from juniors just to play on the third line. Since Roenick might come back next season (if no Cup, then definitely will), he could center the fourth line on a smaller salary (i.e. not the $1 million he’s making this year, but not the league minimum he made last season) and provide that amazing amount of locker room energy.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it’s definitely not a lock but would be cool, having JR would be awesome, just because most of those guys aren’t necessarily a physical presence

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

not resigning Clowe would be a big disappointment

But I wonder who we may have lose to keep him.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

most likely,

we would lose at least blake.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

everyone else

will likely be replaced by someone with similar salary, or remain with the team

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well

Grier, JR, Lemieux, Blake, Semenov and Boucher are our UFAs and Clowe, Goc, Mitchell and Plihal are all RFAs. Ehrhoff, Murray and Vlasic are all getting raises too. Joe, Boyle, Patty, Nabby, Milan, Ehrohff and Cheech are our guys with a cap hit of 3 million or more and they combine for a hit of about 36 million.

Let’s just say I wouldn’t want to be having to make the decisions Doug Wilson will this summer.

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by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah,

couture essentially replaces grier salary wise, jr same with mcginn, the rest will virtually remain the same thinking that we call someone up, this is if status quo remains, which will not happen.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I figured losing Blake was

was a foregone conclusion. He’s too costly to keep and I’m not sure he’s prove himself to be worth 5 mil. He’s capable, to be sure, but 5 million dollars capable? I’m not yet convinced. If he expects a similar number next season, it may be too rich for us.

Much like LS, I don’t envy the position DW will be in come summer. But seriously, sign Clowe!

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

very unlikely,

if clowe is a priority, which he is

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I would hope so. He would be a big loss if he got away, and I know DW knows that. But the long negotiation period over the summer has me worried. But that really is too far ahead to seriously worry about right now. It will be what it will be.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He might take a discount

Cup contender, rejuvenated his career, 40 years old, close to the cap – I could see it happening, especially if he likes playing here. But he’s still likely to take at least $3-4 million (especially since he already took a discount to play in SJ – he was getting paid $6 million last year by the Kings).

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

that would put us way over the cap

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I know, I know

I was just partaking in some fantasizing.

Oh, and we don’t know that the cap will stay the same – I’ve been hearing that the cap will still go up, but then the season after that it might stay the same. So working with the current cap numbers aren’t indicative of what the situation might be like next year (positive thinking!).

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it could go down

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

acutally,

i don’t know that I think that might have been football that was happening

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think I heard the same as mymclife

that the cap will go up next year, but not the year after that. At least not for sure. Who knows in this economy.

resident cartoonist @couchtarts.blogspot.com

by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bettman has said...

that the NHL is doing better than any other major sports league. I don’t know if I believe him, but he says the cap is going up. If it doesn’t go up the year after, itt’l probably stay the same.

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by That'll Cheech You on Feb 27, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"Better" is a relative term, of course

Because I doubt the NHL is making more money than, say, the NFL.

But, yeah – league revenue from year to year is largely based on TV contracts and gate revenues, and since the season tickets were bought before the economy went to shit the league isn’t doing too badly. That, combined with the renaissance that some teams are having that packs in the fans (i.e. Blackhawks and Panthers), the NHL isn’t doing that bad.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What?

You haven’t been drinking the same Kool-Aid Gary is?

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by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

gotta remember it is all relative

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I see

Grier, Lemieux, Semmi, and Blake not being here next year. How all that works out, who knows. But I just don’t see DW letting Clowe go. Of course I wanna believe Bouch stays too.

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 7:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

i wouldn't

be surprised to see goc/plihal go

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Semenov’s cap hit is only like $665,000, right? Since he’s likely not to get a raise as the seventh defenseman, I would suspect DW would keep him, especially since he’s proven that he can actually play.

Grier, though… I don’t know. The guy is great on the PK and works his ass off, but a bunch of the younger guys are starting to fill his role in the team much cheaper and have a better upside offensively.

I just hate talking about trading guys away. I always get so sentimentally attached to the players, even when they suck.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

literally 0% chance he retain grier

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

*we (i mean sharks)

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

as much as I love his energy on the PK, I don’ t see him sticking around next year. There are guys ready to come up and someone needs to go to make room. Same with Semi. I have kinda grown to like the big lug…but I don’ t see him staying around next year.

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i see joslin

potentially fulfilling that role, but most likely, it’ll be them both with blake being the odd man out.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

I leave, and the thread blows up.

The only name I see floated around right now that I’d support pulling the trigger for would be Nik Antropov.

Goc would have to be part of that package though.

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by That'll Cheech You on Feb 27, 2009 7:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

thats what happens when i show up

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Very interesting stuff

which is why I love this place. I actually hadn’t given Goc or Plihal any thoughts. I can’t see them going at the deadline, but in the summer, yes. That opens a whole new bag of worms. Summer is different and depends so much on how we fare in the playoffs.

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

DW has said

that he wants to keep a contending team for the next few years. I don’t expect to see a fire sale, but the again, I really have no idea what he has in mind.

resident cartoonist @couchtarts.blogspot.com

by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I dont' see a fire sale

either…just tweeking…and everything we’ve posed so far is just tweeking in my mind

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by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly what i was thinking

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think

we probably don’t retain either or one of them, although it will have nothing to do with a “firesale”

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

right

I was more saying I see a few guys going, but I don’t see DW selling off everyone to the lowest bidder to make room for a few guys he really feels he needs to keep

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

wine makes my minda tad hazy though

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly

Have we seen DW make a bad trade? I mean, his penchant for trading away first round picks is a bit annoying, but he’s the guy that got Joe Thornton and Dan Boyle without giving up any key pieces. And the guy that landed Todd McLellan as a coach. I trust him.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No, I trust him

It could be the A’s fan in me talking.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We're kinda lucky with our GMs with these two teams.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

with the A’s, I have just learned not to get attached. To anyone.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously.

I kind of lucked out with my Chavez jersey. Nobody’s going to take him if he’s hurt and can’t play…

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

my jersey

is plain. For a reason. I don’t trust anyone to stick around long enough to make getting one with someone’s number worth my while. That said, I do keep watching them, year after year…

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A retired player is probably the safest way to go with the A's.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no kidding

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

true,

and so sad

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Billy Beane is a genius!!

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

there's a (non hockey related) poll question for ya

what’s the ratio of A’s to Giants fans here?

While I am an A’s fan, I call the Giants my NL team. I only root against them when they face the A’s.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A's fan!

I’m have the same situation as you

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A's fan.

I’ve been going to games at the Coliseum as long as I can remember. I used to hate the Giants although that’s softened since my brother’s a fan. So I guess if I had to pick an NL team I’d say Giants these days. I’m indifferent toward the rest of them, except the Dodgers. I just don’t like any SoCal team.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I remember

when the Coliseum had a view.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Used to be a great baseball park.

Then Mount Davis went up.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

that was a sad day indeed

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Formerly a Giants fan

But then the whole steroids thing came out and I gradually stopped watching all professional baseball. I still like the Giants (and J.T. Snow remains to be my favorite player ever), but its nowhere near the level of love I had for the sport a few years ago.

I do, however, like to watch the Little League World Series every year. Those kids are crazy good, and its so fun watching them play their hearts out.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was formerly a Giants fan

I mean what 6 year doesn’t like a team that’s in the World Series?

But later I went to A’s games, started liking them. Read Moneyball. Found AN. Became big A’s fan.

(I don’t really post at AN though, I’m scared of their extreme sarcasm, but I do read it everyday and learn A LOT)

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A's

Every year I get the cheapskate season ticket plan: Two tickets to every $2 Wednesday game. $40 for twenty tickets!

by senor_k on Feb 27, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't forget the dollar hot dogs!!

I had seven once.

That is terrible now looking back at it

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t. There’s nothing like the feeling of getting entertainment AND a meal for $5 (plus beverage costs).

by senor_k on Feb 27, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Giants!

Fear the Fin....where being an old guy isn't all bad

by Dave Valentine on Feb 28, 2009 1:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

But what if

Ty Wishart turns into the next greatest defensemen ever…

Not likely though? Okay.

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

DW's last 2 deadline deals were kind of busts.

Not his fault though. I don’t think anyone could have predicted Campbell and Guerin choking so badly in the playoffs. In hindsight I’d have rather had the 1st round picks.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

every time I seen Guerin mentioned

all I can think about is how much he wasn’t worth it. Craig Rivet totally was. Guerin, eh, not so much. But yeah, who would have known he’d decide to stop playing when he did?

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was dubious about Campbell from day one

based on his reaction to the trade. He did he best to win me over, but his lack of performance in the post season made me a sad panda.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Rivet is awesome and I miss him.

The only good memory I have of Guerin’s time in teal was when he finally scored his first goal as a Shark and was so excited he gave Kerry Fraser a hug.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Rivet IS awesomeness

Did I mention the time he beat up Steve Ott?

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

only 3 times already

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

did i mention,

thornton beat the **** out of ott.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, yes he did.

And it was awesome.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i love this,

ott is such a pussy.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Everytime I watch those video's

It brings a smile to my face

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

seriously awesomeness

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Always sweet

when a guy like Ott finally gets what he deserves.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thing is

If the Sharks had an agitator-like guy on our team, Would you like him?

Being an agitator is a job like an enforcer. But agitator’s aren’t needed for the game

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ville Nieminen

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Feb 27, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

hmm...

My hockey memory remembers his name, but not his play.

Was he an agitator like Ott? Or to a lesser degree. And was he well liked?

(yeah I know, I’m still a Shark history newbie)

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

(even though that wasn’t too long ago)

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll go strictly from memory

His nickname is ‘The Villain’ for a reason. He was part of the Flames ’04 run and gave the Sharks HELL. One play in particular, he crashed into Nabokov, tweaking his knee. Sharks were bounced from the WCF in 6.

Not long after, ‘The Villain’ was acquired by the Sharks – and I swore up and down I would never support that decision. But eventually, his tenacious behavior and panache for funny interviews (plus being childhood BFF with Toskala) eventually won me over.

Plus, he was credited with 15 (!?) hits in a playoff game vs Oilers during the ’06 run – during which time he was playing while sick (had a fever if I recall right)

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Feb 27, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks!

Now I will tell that to my friends and be a “Shark Expert”

Just kidding.

I think I might have liked him

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A bad call

against Nieminen triggered the first bullshit chant I was at the Tank for. I’ve been there for a few since then.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Forgot about Guerin

But Campbell was a positive in that he convinced DW that the Sharks needed an offensive defenseman, and he should break the bank to get one (or two). Enter Boyle and Blake, who have contributed to the team far beyond what I expected.

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you know

I never looked at it that way. That’s a great point. Boyle alone was worth the Campbell gamble.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Neither had I.

It’s a good thing Campbell didn’t sign with us or we wouldn’t have gotten Boyle.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

boyle eats campbell soup

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Love this kind of discussion guys

but I’ve gotta be at work at 3 am your time…gotta go. I’ll catch up later.

Fear the Fin....where being an old guy isn't all bad

by Dave Valentine on Feb 27, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

good night.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

in a random note,

check this out from campbell last year

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Before I clicked it

I knew what it was going to be..

It used to be one of my favorite goals.

Do you remember Cheech’s goal from that game? That was cool

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That was my all time favorite game I'd been to.

At least until Detroit came to town last month.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

LUCKY x2

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

nope, send me the link

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

NO

Just kidding. This one is not very clear though

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

why did i watch that,

now i will cry that you don’t still do that cheech

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And no in between the legs play’s :(

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i raise you a mitchell

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I see your mitchell, I raise you a Nabby

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i’m all in

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I call

Dun dun dun dunnnnnn

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

nice

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I believe Roenick beats all

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

spin-o-rama

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Fun game in Vancouver right now

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/hockeynight/2009022722

by senor_k on Feb 27, 2009 9:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Nucks score with 13 left

Deflected of Lecavalier’s skate right into the five hole.

by senor_k on Feb 27, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I like the Tampa commentators. They’ve called both basketball and soccer players pussies in the third period alone. (but not so explicitly, of course)

by senor_k on Feb 27, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Fear the Fin: Approved by ESPN and Logan Couture

by That'll Cheech You on Feb 27, 2009 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

mmmm Thread

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s nice to know that so many other people are here on a Friday night with no game.

by senor_k on Feb 27, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m here as well but I’m not talking cause I have no clue about trades and such. I’m learning lots in one night!

by WhoseYourNabby? on Feb 27, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice... or sad?

by mymclife on Feb 27, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

way to make me feel bad señor.

JK

I’m not the only one here :)

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s nice that we’re all sad together.

by senor_k on Feb 27, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not sad

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Neither am I.

New Battlestar Galactica in half an hour. I’ve got my priorities straight.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

we need a BSG thread

Lurker. We could get Sleek in on it. Nerd up a hockey site.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes we do.

We’re doing a pretty good job nerding this place up already. Maybe over at BoC?

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

we totally should

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

frakking Boomer

they can tell she’s Athena, even if Helo can’t.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Had to know the Cavills wouldn't miss the last 3 episodes

by Chicago Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

don't you mean John?

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Number One?

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ellen

called him John

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes she did

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Old habits

I guess

by Chicago Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It would be easy to get in trouble

when a bunch of women on the ship look exactly like your wife.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and you don’t have Chief’s spidey senses

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Holy frak...

All Along the Watchtower?

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that alllll coming from the start.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And that is just what the old girl needed.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Chief

Not happy

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

Boy did he blow it.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Roslin

warned him

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That she did

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Question is, what happens to him now?

I think at this point in the show everyone is expendable

by Chicago Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

good question

All I know is not everyone dies. Not that that means anything on this show.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm kinda counting on a 2 hour finale

They have a lot to close out still

by Chicago Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Funny how many hockey/BSG

fans there are out there

by Chicago Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well we're going to get another movie.

But it’s starting to look like Galactica might not make it till the end.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

she was about to be mothballed before the war broke out. She’s no spring chicken, poor girl.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yup

And this is exactly why they should have kept Pegasus around. A 50 year old ship wasn’t going to make it that far without a drydock to make pitstops at.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

but if fat Apollo

hadn’t brought her in, they’d have lost Galactica much earlier.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

Pegasus came out swinging and she’d trashed a few baseships in her day. No reason why Lee had to go charging in like that. Just stand back and pick them off one at a time.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought

it was that or Galatica was going to be lost in the volley of fire from the Basestars. Didn’t they have FTL problems? Lee was buying them time.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Could have been.

I need to rewatch Exodus. That was just an amazing episode. I just liked the whole idea of having a second battlestar. It gave the Colonials more options instead of having to run every time the Cylons show up.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

jumping away shortly before you crash into the planet surface? Brilliant.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe he pulls a Cally

and airlocks himself. Minus Tori’s help.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

speaking of

that looked like an orange suit flying out due to a massive hull breach.

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes it did.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The hour is getting late.

Next week so we can get the whole episode? My Season 4.0 DVDs showed up from Amazon today. That was exciting.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What the heck is this doing on FTF?

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

we said

we were going to nerd it up

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

(I’m joking by the way)

RUN, THE NERDS, RUN AWAY!

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I am soooo lost.

Fear the Fin: Approved by ESPN and Logan Couture

by That'll Cheech You on Feb 27, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

so those dreams huh?

back to the Opera House?

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure looks like it

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You need to get caught up.

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 27, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

do you watch BSG, TCY?

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by CTGray on Feb 27, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What the hell happened to this thread???

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 28, 2009 4:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Trade Wars Episode V: The Nerds Strike Back

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 28, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

we traded one 8 for another last night

it’s entirely relevant

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by CTGray on Feb 28, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This is true

It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker

by Lurker Shark on Feb 28, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 27, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Debbie

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by idunno723 on Feb 27, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

what the hell happened to this thread???

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 28, 2009 4:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

How did I miss this craziness yesterday…

by Shiromori on Feb 28, 2009 10:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Can I assume

that there is no Earth Shattering Breaking News buried in here somewhere?

by Section223 on Feb 28, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

ohh, there was lots of it.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Feb 28, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In case anyone missed it:

According to James Murphy (our buddy ol’ pal over at Stanley Cup of Chowder) and the rumors around TSN, the Bruins and Ducks have agreed on a deal that would send Chris Pronger and Travis Moen to the Bruins for Mark Stuart, Joe Colborne and 1st round pick. Also noted, another roster player could be added from Boston.

In other news, Billy G. and PHX defenseman Derek Morris will sit out until traded

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by SwisherThresher on Feb 28, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Though a recent broadcast reports Boston has backed out because Anaheim's price was too high

And have since turned their attention to the St.Louis Blues.

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by SwisherThresher on Feb 28, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That's good?

Pronger won’t make Boston better. But we did miss out on a chance to see Pronger out of the division if we left.

And may I suggest a “Fear the Fincentric Trade Talk Part 2” so this thread doesn’t become laggy.

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by idunno723 on Feb 28, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

There’s no big pics in here. I’m thinkin’ itt’l hold up.

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by That'll Cheech You on Feb 28, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Okie dokie

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by idunno723 on Feb 28, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

where do you think Guerin’s off too? I suppose the better question is, where could he be most effective?

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by CTGray on Mar 1, 2009 2:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hard to believe

but looking at team stats, he just might be a nice fit for Dallas. The could use a RW right now with the ability to score. Personally, I’m a bit skeptical of his actual value though. I mean, he pretty much disappeared when he came to the Sharks.

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 1, 2009 5:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That pretty much sums up my feelings on him too. He must bring something valuable to the table if contenders keep asking for him. As far as I can tell, he runs hot and cold, but has the ability to be great when everything is aligned right. That possibility alone must seem fairly attractive to teams looking for a little something extra before the playoffs.

Spector’s says he off to some place in the east. Will be interesting to see where he ends up.

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by CTGray on Mar 1, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That got me thinking about him in the playoffs

and I looked up this:
105 playoff games
28 goals
22 assists
50 points
-18 plus/minus
145 PIM

Not bad, but not spectacular. I’m with you, I don’t see what makes him seem so valuable.

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 1, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

At the moment

NYI Point Blank says the trade might be off…

7:38 pm – The Islanders just sent out a series of texts to the media saying:

1. There will be no news tonight

2. There is no timeline for any announcements

Which, when you cut right through it, means only one thing:

There is no trade.

by Section223 on Mar 1, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Spector’s mentioned that too, linking to Botta. Interesting. First they wouldn’t mention who it was because it could fall through, then it had fallen through, then that was apparently false, and now it looks like it really did fall apart.

Ah trade deadline fun.

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by CTGray on Mar 1, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OH

And he’s updated (maybe I should have read that first, eh?) saying there may well be a deal and (he speculates) it’s to Washington. They just can’t seem to close it.

Whatever, there’s a trade, or there isn’t. Eventually, we’ll all know! I’ll reserve judgement on it until we know for sure if he’s moving or not.

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by CTGray on Mar 1, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

TRADE

Bob McKenzie, Fan 590

Vancouver acquire Alexei Ponikarovsky from Toronto for a pair of picks

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 1, 2009 4:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

FALSE

Nevermind. It’s been debunked (for now). I hate being fooled by hockey’s professional rumor mongers. On an aside, apparently there’s a destination for Billy G. that should be revealed shortly once the ink dries.

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 1, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If Pronger goes to the B's

Does that mean Chara is available? How about Cheech, Luk, 3rd round pick, and a highlight reel of a healthy Sturm for Chara?

by Tahoe on Mar 2, 2009 1:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Bruins, Devils, Sharks interested in Pronger?

Huh…

by Section223 on Mar 2, 2009 10:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, saw that mentioned in TSN last week

Be alert, Sharks fans – Doug Wilson openly confessed to trying to acquire Pronger in the past.

Question – since he plays well while being booed, should we continue to boo if he’s one of us?

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by Mr. K. on Mar 2, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

On a more serious note

Could the Sharks even afford him? I’m afraid he’d cost too much, plus I’m dubious about how well he’d mesh. But for the moment it’s just a rumor.

Getting back to Mr. K’s question: if booing really helps him, why not? ;)

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by CTGray on Mar 2, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Captain Stompy would make next season's cap issues a lot more interesting.

We’d probably have to deal one of our top salary guys to keep him.

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by Lurker Shark on Mar 2, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Now, Strickland is thinking he might stay in ANA.

by Section223 on Mar 2, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Strickland is about as credible as Eklund

I wish there was a Firefox add-on called ‘Strickland Blocker’

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 2, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Bottom line: Right now, no one knows anything. Wednesday will be here soon enough, then we’ll all know everything.

Still don’t know what I’d do if Pronger was in SJ…probably involves some vurping

by Section223 on Mar 2, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

WAIVED

Sean Avery (re-entry)
Tom Preissing (LA)
Joe Callahan (NYI)
Lawrence Nycholat (Van)
Steven Goertzen (Pho)
Bill Thomas (Pitt)

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 2, 2009 12:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Rangers sent Bell down to the AHL, in what is claimed to be a move to make room for Avery. From the Marlies to the Wolf Pack, so goes Mark Bell.

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by CTGray on Mar 2, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

minor signing (I assume this one's legit)

Montreal Canadiens General Manager Bob Gainey announced today the signing of forward Andrew Conboy to a three-year contract (2009-10 to 2011-12)

This one is interesting because Conboy is crazy. He’s the younger brother of x-Sharks prospect Tim Conboy.

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 2, 2009 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

TRADE

The Atlanta Thrashers traded defenceman Niclas Havelid to the New Jersey Devils in exchange for blueliner Annsi Salmela – TSN.ca

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 2, 2009 2:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Not good for Sharks

If we face NJ in finals (sorry if I’m looking ahead). Havelid will fit in well with Devils schema (bore you to death until you make a mistake), and with Brodeur playing well, the Devils are trying to setup to tackle Boston or Washington for the conference.

by Tahoe on Mar 2, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

New Jersey will be scary if Broudeur is keeping his pace. 2 Shutouts in 3 games!

I mean I want like it but my fantasy team will.

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by idunno723 on Mar 2, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Mike Grier had a "maintenance day"

Read about it here – he probably is injured, but c’mon = it’s D-Day, when this stuff can mean things.

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by Mr. K. on Mar 2, 2009 6:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

good call

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 3, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Just threw out the idea in the Gameday Thread...

Cheechoo and Kaspar and a second round pick for Staal? Would you support that move? Would PIT take that deal?

Discuss.

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by That'll Cheech You on Mar 3, 2009 7:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

seems a bit steep

if we’re gonna go at that level, what about Satan?

by Tahoe on Mar 3, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

From LA

Kings say Frolov will not be traded to Pens for Staal

Los Angeles Kings general manager Dean Lombardi denied rumors that he will send the team’s goal-scoring leader, Alexander Frolov, to the Pittsburgh Penguins for center Jordan Staal, according to the Los Angeles Times.

“All those rumors about him being traded are, at this stage, totally false,” Lombardi said. “The last month he’s picked it up and he’s playing like he cares.”

Lombardi also indicated veteran Sean O’Donnell will remain with the team. Lombardi said signing O’Donnell will be a ‘priority’ for the Kings.

by Tahoe on Mar 3, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs