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Sharks Expected W/L using Poisson Numbers

I follow a great NFL stats blog called Advanced NFL Stats, that uses live win-probability modeling to determine which of the two teams is most likely to win. This football off-season the author of that blog has started looking at other sports, hockey being one of them. The post on March 9th was his first about modeling hockey games. In the post, he describes the Poisson equation and how to determine the probability of a team scoring or allowing a certain amount of goals, and through that, the possibility of them winning games.  Go ahead and read his post. I'll wait..... OK! So I thought it might be neat to see what the Sharks numbers were...

 

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To recap,the Poisson equation looks like this,

Pr = ((x^k) * e^(-x)) / k!

where x is the average goals over the time period of 60 minutes, k is the particular goal amount in question, and Pr is the percent chance of it happening.

He uses the Boston Bruins as the example team.  Their average goals scored in 60 minutes is 3.3, while they allow 2.2 goals.  After going through the whole process, he comes to the conclusion that they win 60% of their games and tie 15.8% at the end of regulation.  Assuming the team wins in overtime about 50% of the time, then the Bruins chance to win any particular game is 60% plus 7.9%, or 67.9%.  Before today's games, they were at 67 games played and 43 wins, or 64.2%.  Like the Pythagorean Theorem in baseball, the Poisson number shows that the Bruins might be a better team than their record shows.

So what about the Sharks?  I took the Poisson equation using the Sharks goals for (3.26) and goals against (2.45) as of this morning.  Here's the graph.

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via www.lonestranger.net

If you're a fan of the team, you like the high red line on the left hand side, and the teal line's peak to be closer to the right.

I charted the 81 different possibilities of zero to eight goals by either team and used the values from the above data to figure out the possibility of that outcome happening.

GF GA Pct G diff
0 0 0.003313 0
0 1 0.008116 -1
0 2 0.009942 -2
0 3 0.008119 -3
0 4 0.004973 -4
0 5 0.002437 -5
0 6 0.000995 -6
0 7 0.000348 -7
0 8 0.000107 -8
1 0 0.010799 1
1 1 0.026458 0
1 2 0.032411 -1
1 3 0.026469 -2
1 4 0.016212 -3
1 5 0.007944 -4
1 6 0.003244 -5
1 7 0.001135 -6
1 8 0.000348 -7
2 0 0.017603 2
2 1 0.043127 1
2 2 0.052831 0
2 3 0.043145 -1
2 4 0.026426 -2
2 5 0.012949 -3
2 6 0.005287 -4
2 7 0.001851 -5
2 8 0.000567 -6
3 0 0.019128 3
3 1 0.046865 2
3 2 0.057409 1
3 3 0.046884 0
3 4 0.028717 -1
3 5 0.014071 -2
3 6 0.005746 -3
3 7 0.002011 -4
3 8 0.000616 -5
4 0 0.01559 4
4 1 0.038195 3
4 2 0.046789 2
4 3 0.038211 1
4 4 0.023404 0
4 5 0.011468 -1
4 6 0.004683 -2
4 7 0.001639 -3
4 8 0.000502 -4
5 0 0.010164 5
5 1 0.024903 4
5 2 0.030506 3
5 3 0.024913 2
5 4 0.015259 1
5 5 0.007477 0
5 6 0.003053 -1
5 7 0.001069 -2
5 8 0.000327 -3
6 0 0.005523 6
6 1 0.013531 5
6 2 0.016575 4
6 3 0.013536 3
6 4 0.008291 2
6 5 0.004063 1
6 6 0.001659 0
6 7 0.000581 -1
6 8 0.000178 -2
7 0 0.002572 7
7 1 0.006301 6
7 2 0.007719 5
7 3 0.006304 4
7 4 0.003861 3
7 5 0.001892 2
7 6 0.000773 1
7 7 0.00027 0
7 8 8.28E-05 -1
8 0 0.001048 8
8 1 0.002568 7
8 2 0.003146 6
8 3 0.002569 5
8 4 0.001573 4
8 5 0.000771 3
8 6 0.000315 2
8 7 0.00011 1
8 8 3.37E-05 0

Total 0.992568

Win 54.3%

Loss 28.8%

Tied 16.2%

At the end I've added up the percentages for a win, loss and tie at the end of regulation.

Like with the Bruins, we can assume that the Sharks win half of their overtime games, or 8.1%.  Add that to the win percentage, and you get 62.4%.  As of this morning, the Sharks were at 43 wins in 65 games, or 66.2%.   Based on these numbers, their projection being higher lower than the actual shows the Sharks may not be quite as good as their record shows. 

That's it.  The Sharks are performing better than they are expected to based on the amount of goals scored and goals allowed.  Over long enough period of time, I would expect the Sharks to drop closer to their projected numbers, as I would expect the Bruins to rise to theirs.  This doesn't bode well for the Team in Teal, but it's a good thing they still play the games!

Something interesting to do next would be to figure out the numbers compare for each month, or even from the beginning of the season until the slump started.  Did the slump drag down their numbers?  There may not be enough results in the pool to get reliable numbers, but it would still be fun to see nonetheless.

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My head just about exploded (that’s a compliment)- nice write up man. This, however, could have been left out for another day:

Based on these numbers, their projection being higher than the actual shows the Sharks may not be quite as good as their record shows.

Vomit city all star spectacular. Now where’s that bridge?

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by Mr. Plank on Mar 13, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hrm. That should say that the projection is lower than the actual... I must have been tired last night.

But yea, the idea is the same. According to that, the Sharks are not as good as we think. Though I wonder how much of that is due to the recent slump. Also, like the Pythagorean theorem, single goal wins can reduce the difference between the average G/GA numbers and you won’t be projected as high. I’d have to look into that.

by LoneStranger on Mar 13, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a spreadsheet of all the games goals for/goals against etc. Send me an email [fearthefin@gmail.com] if you would like it.

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by Mr. Plank on Mar 13, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should be noted that it doesn’t take into account shootout goals though, so that might mess with your projections (if you were originally using that).

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by Mr. Plank on Mar 13, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kinds of data are in that spreadsheet?

I dabble in statistics (I’m writing a master’s thesis) and would be interested to see if one could run some multivariate statistical models to look a little deeper into wins/losses, etc.

by Chicago Shark on Mar 14, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

to jump off of?
Now where’s that bridge?

Hell, I’ll take a 2 story building right now. Oh, wait. I live in one of those. Hmmm, the roof.

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 13, 2009 6:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

INTERVENTION!!!

Numerous hotlines are available, Dave – if all else fails, we’ll forgive you for following those Carolina Hurricanes!* Easier on your mental health, I suppose…

*Much less futile than the equidistant Atlanta Thrashers.

I second Plank on the head exploding – I saw the mathematical equation and my eyes went blurry.

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by Mr. K. on Mar 13, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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