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Greatest Sharks: Department of Defense

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Noble FTF readers, I salute you. After countless rounds of voting and some really bad puns, you picked a fantastic group of forwards to get FTF's "Greatest Sharks" team off to a good start. You also took any and all responsibility off our shoulders. Kudos.

Although there ended up being a few snubs (Jamie Baker, Jeff Odgers) and a few "huh?!" selections (I'm looking at you Korky), the FTF staff was very happy with the results. (The full list of forwards can be found here.) However, as the "Greatest Sharks" team photo fills in, we start to see a problem with the back end of the roster. 

When you look at the Sharks' list of defensemen, you begin to realize that we've had our share of mediocre players. Granted, moving on to the defensive side gave me the opportunity to throw down this slick photochop, but that's beside the point. What we have here is a thin list of players to choose from, mostly due to the relative youth of the franchise. You won't find any big stars on this list (none of the really big names were in the prime of their career while they played in San Jose), but I still think it's possible to put together a respectable group.

Once again, FTF asks you to pick who stays and who goes. It's kind of like Survivor... only without the $1,000,000 dollars, alliances, and harsh climates. And six people win. Well, I guess it's nothing like Survivor at all. Just vote, O.K.?

Make the jump for player analysis. Unlike in previous rounds, a player only needs 15% of the vote to be awarded inclusion. Full rules can also be found after the jump.

Star-divide

 

Note: To be considered a member of the "Greatest Sharks", you must have played parts of a minimum of three seasons with the team. A player must receive at least ten vote s and 15% of the overall vote to be included on the "Greatest Sharks" roster. If the ten vote and 15% total is not met by at least six players, a second round of voting will take place which will include all players who did not receive at least ten votes and 15% of the vote.

Note 2: Lines are not necessarily determined by voting order. After overall voting has ended, the FTF staff will determine the best line combinations.

Scott Hannan: Hannan, another Sharks' first round selection, was quite possibly the most talented defensive player to ever wear teal. Making the all star team during the 2003-2004 season, Hannan was an integral part of the Sharks success during that years' playoffs. Against the Colorado Avalance, Hannan effectively shut down NHL legend Peter Forsberg, helping the Sharks advance to the conference finals for the first time in team history.

Bryan Marchment: Accused of being somewhat of a "dirty" player during his NHL career, Marchment played six seasons with the Sharks. Averaging more than a minor penalty per game while with the team, the assistant captain was a popular figure in San Jose and often set the tone of the game with either his physical style or by engaging a well placed scuffle with the oppsoing team. In 2000-2001, Marchment participated in a career high 11 fights. 

Kyle McLaren: Possessing one of the best hip-checks in all of hockey, McLaren was one of the most feared defensemen in the NHL. After being traded to the Sharks in 2003, McLaren (with his signature bright yellow visor) would contribute 72 points in 241 games with the team. Although knee and back issues slowed him towards the end of his career with San Jose, McLaren was always a fan favorite and an important piece to the Sharks success.

Jayson More: More was one of the first Sharks, as he was taken from the New York Rangers in the 1991 NHL Expansion draft. More spent five seasons with San Jose, helping the team to their first playoff appearance during the 1993-1994 NHL season. In 287 games with the Sharks, More posted 50 points, racking up 545 penalty minutes in the process.

Jeff Norton: Oddly enough, the journeyman Norton would play three separate stints with the Sharks. In 225 games with the team, Norton notched 93 points and added 14 during the playoffs. He was somewhat of a good luck charm for the team, as the Sharks would make the playoffs in five of Norton's six seasons in San Jose.

Sandis Ozolinsh: One of the most gifted offensive defensemen in recent memory, Ozolinsh played for the Sharks in parts of four seasons to start his NHL career. Drafted 30th overall by the Sharks in 1991, Oz would score 43 goals and add 73 assists in 173 games with the team. In 1993-1994, Ozolinsh made his first NHL All Star appearance (along with Artus Irbe). He would score three points in that game, two of which being goals. Ozolinsh was traded to Colorado for Owen Nolan in October of 1995.

Marcus Ragnarsson: As Mike Rathje's defensive partner for most of his NHL career, Ragnarsson enjoyed some successful seasons in San Jose. In 519 games with the Sharks, the Big Swede amassed 153 points. In 2000-2001, Ragnarsson was selected to the NHL All Star team, one of only a few San Jose defenseman to ever make the cut.

Mike Rathje: The third overall pick in the 1992 NHL Entry Draft, Rathje would play 11 seasons with the San Jose Sharks. The six-foot-five lefty was an imposing presence on the ice. Although his career with San Jose was somewhat tarnished after his holdout during the 2001-2002 season, he played more games in teal than any other defenseman. Rathje was never an offensively minded player, but he still has more points than any other Sharks defender. In 671 regular season games with San Jose, Rathje would tally 155 points. 

Brad Stuart: Perhaps no San Jose Sharks prospect was met with as much hype as Brad Stuart, who was selected third overall in the 1998 NHL entry draft. Billed as an extremely skilled offensive defenseman, Stuart would score 153 points in only 377 games with San Jose. His most famous goals came in 2004, when he scored two goals in a span of 17 seconds against the Los Angeles Kings. In 2007, Stuart was traded to Boston along with Wayne Primeau and Marco Sturm for Joe Thornton. He would go on to win a Stanley Cup with Detroit in 2008.

Gary SuterAlthough Suter joined the Sharks in the twilight of his NHL career, he still showed the skill that made him one of the best defensemen in the history of the league. Suter would score 101 points in only 227 games with the team while playing a  solid defensive game. In his first full season with the Sharks, Suter would score six goals, adding 2 goals and 5 assists in 12 playoff games.

Rob ZettlerNever a master with the puck, Zettler only tallied one goal while in San Jose. As more of a defensive defenseman, Zettler was known for his strong play in his own zone. In 196 games with the team, Zettler would earn 314 minutes in the box.

Poll
Which of these defensemen deserves to be added to Fear the Fin's "Greatest Sharks" team?
Scott Hannan
14 votes
Bryan Marchment
12 votes
Kyle McLaren
23 votes
Jayson More
1 votes
Sandis Ozolinsh
34 votes
Marcus Ragnarsson
7 votes
Mike Rathje
18 votes
Brad Stuart
7 votes
Gary Suter
11 votes
Rob Zettler
2 votes

129 votes | Poll has closed

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What happened

to Al Iafrate?

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 6:43 AM PST reply actions  

On the slap shot alone

He should at least get consideration

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 6:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn't qualify

Only played two seasons (59 games) with the team.

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Ditto

With Doug Wilson?

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by Mr. K. on Mar 6, 2009 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

It was really hard for me to leave Doug off the list. However, he played 16 seasons, 14 with the Blackhawks. It wouldn’t make sense for him to be included. We could put in a “special GM rule”…

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I know

but he was better than Ozo ever though of being….that man was a huge defensive liability his first time as a Shark

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I understand what you’re saying, but since he played in 14 NHL seasons, and only two were with San Jose, you can’t really justify putting him on this team. He’d be a definite shoe in on Toronto’s team, though.

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

You know

YOU made the rules. You could change it to two years :)

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 9:13 AM PST reply actions  

Nah..

14 Seasons with Chicago, 2 with San Jose… I’d put him on Chicago’s team.

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Just wondering

Did you leave Marchment off for some reason?

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

I could have sworn that Marchment was on here… I wrote a thing for him and everything… Going up now.

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He was in there… I just had to save it again for it to go up. Strange…

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

TCY

I only voted for KMac the first time. Can you add a vote to Mush for me?

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

Thank you!

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this the Dave Valentine special request show in here or what? Ho-lee schmokes ;)


Sold.

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by Mr. Plank on Mar 6, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

If it was

Iafrate and Houlder would be up there

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Look at the similarities

You had to have that mustache to be a bad ass D Man back then

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

Where'd my picture of Houlder go?

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ozo

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He struggled on and off the ice during the latter part of his career, but I was happy when DW brought him back to San Jose for one last curtain call. And this moment would probably be considered the swan song.

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by SwisherThresher on Mar 6, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

I was actually pretty happy to see him the second time around

But it was party time at my house when they traded him for Nolan. My GAWD! The man had NO idea what his role as a defenseman was supposed to be. Any readers who think Ehrhoff forgets he’s a Dman occasionally, would label him an outright stay at homer in comparison to Ozo.

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That moment

was awesome

FTF: WAATMF (Where Acronyms are too much fun)

by idunno723 on Mar 6, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

No Hannan?

Can he get added to future votes?

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

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by marcello on Mar 6, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Damn… he was on here too. SB Nation is giving me a hard time. We’ll pick 3 then revote, Hannan will be on here.

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hannan

is the first one listed

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Just got my Fear The Fin gear

Nice stuff….thanks guys!

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

Apologies for the issues...

SB Nation deleted Hannan and Marchment from the list somehow. They are on now, but we’ll definitely have another vote after the first round is complete.

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

/shakes fist

No worries, SBN is a finicky beast at times and I would have voted for Ozolinsh anyways. Thanks for putting these together, I know they are a lot of work.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

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by marcello on Mar 6, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha...

You would know! Your list was like, 30, 35 deep?

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

We got to 30. I would have kept going to 40 or 50, but there were enough people who got sick of it that I stopped. It ended up cluttering up the main page, but it did help with the monotony of hearing over and over again how we need to sign Manny Ramirez.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Mar 6, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Very true. i stop by McC sometimes, and it seems as if that this of thing would be popular. I would comment more (I stand at a whopping 0 right now), but helping keep FTF running/fresh takes up a ton of time.

by TCY on Mar 6, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a fun place. It’s got a good group of regulars, just like here, but I can see the time constraints being a real issue. Actually writing for a site on a regular basis takes a lot of time.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

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by marcello on Mar 6, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just curious

of all the folks that voted for Ozo….did anyone actually watch him play back during the time he was with the Sharks the first time?

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

I did

But I was something like 10 or 15 years old.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Mar 6, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah same here.

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by Lurker Shark on Mar 6, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

No one from the current team? Interesting....

Although Vlasic is probably the only one who has been a starter for more than a year.

by senor_k on Mar 6, 2009 6:03 PM PST reply actions  

And on review, I’m surprised that no one else voted for Hannan.

by senor_k on Mar 6, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally

Scott Hannan couldn’t hold KMac’s jock. Too many times I watched him miss his assignment, blow the breakout pass, or have someone get behind him. I think his performance in Colorado is simply his actual ability coming home to roost.

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 6, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t confirm or deny that, I didn’t watch nearly as closely two years ago as I do now (and I’m still terrible at figuring out what to watch for when it comes to the defense).

by senor_k on Mar 6, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

No love for Marcus Ragnarsson?

Ragnarsson was the Sharks most consistent defenseman during those awful mid-to-late 90s. Unlike a lot of these other guys like Gary Suter and Kyle McLaren who came in after having long ago established their careers, Ragnarsson was drafted and developed as a pretty solid #3 defenseman.

He wasn’t like Rathje, who was just a big pylon and a soft sissy in skates. Afraid to hit other players and who tried to hold out for $4 million/year because he wanted to be paid like a #1 defenseman. [Hint: #1 defensemen score more than 0 goals in a season] Honestly, I was very, very happy when Rathje signed with the Flyers. I’m very surprised that Rathje is #2 in voting. Seriously? Most Sharks fans I knew absolutely ragged on Rathje from day one. Unlike Sandis, who was soft defensively, but killer offensively, you didn’t know exactly what you were paying for with Rathje.

Scott Hannan should be in the top 3. He’s now over-paid and hardly effective for the Avalanche, but with the Sharks, he was our top defenseman and the go-to-guy for shutting down the opposing team’s best players.

Sandis should be in the top 3 because he was our first legitimate defenseman. You can criticize and say he was soft defensively, but he was a monster on the PP. And with a goalie like Irbe, who cared?

Bryan Marchment, Kyle McLaren, and Brad Stuart I put into that just barely #4 spots. Had Brad Stuart not been selected with the #3 overall pick, he would’ve been a great steal. Expectations, expectations. Not that David Legawand is fulfilling them either.

p.s. The description for Sandis needs to be changed. He and Irbe were All-Stars in 1993-1994. Remember there was the lockout in 1994-95?

by Will Bulldozer on Mar 7, 2009 12:24 AM PST reply actions  

I so agree
He wasn’t like Rathje, who was just a big pylon and a soft sissy in skates. Afraid to hit other players and who tried to hold out for $4 million/year because he wanted to be paid like a #1 defenseman. [Hint: #1 defensemen score more than 0 goals in a season] Honestly, I was very, very happy when Rathje signed with the Flyers. I’m very surprised that Rathje is #2 in voting. Seriously? Most Sharks fans I knew absolutely ragged on Rathje from day one. Unlike Sandis, who was soft defensively, but killer offensively, you didn’t know exactly what you were paying for with Rathje.

Not so much with Hannan and Ozo, but you are right on with Rathje

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by Dave Valentine on Mar 7, 2009 2:05 AM PST reply actions  

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