Should Shelley Dress in April? Playoff Projected Lines & More
Inspired by the top-notch discussion yesterday, I decided to take a look at some attributes I find very compelling when looking at players in general, and enforcers in particular. There's three basic tenets I look for in the shutdown lines, and those (along with a brief discussion of them) follow:
1) Penalty Differential. Taking bad penalties can turn the tides very quickly, and drawing a penalty can inject life into a team. Probably the most important thing to look for in enforcers, and important in analyzing other skaters as well. If a guy is taking stupid penalties and not contributing on the scoresheet, there's not much room for him out there on the ice.
2) Well Roundedness. Does he play on the penalty kill or power play? Also, I'm not sure "roundedness" is even a word, but it works here so we're rolling with it.
3) Statistics. How well does a player keep the puck out of the net when on the ice, and are they contributing on the scoresheet? Are they facing good competition or being thrown out against other non-scoring lines? It's not very likely that our shutdown line will be scoring goals very often, so clamping down on defense and cycling the puck is their utmost priority. That being said, goals from our bottom lines are a huge addition to the team, and could definitely be the difference in a tightly contested series.
If you want to scrap all that and look for my opinion on whether Shelley should dress on a game by game basis (even against the tougher teams like Calgary/Anaheim), here's my thinly-veiled answer to the question.
Fighting Majors In the Stanley Cup Playoffs
| Year | Fighting Majors | Per Series |
| 2008 | 7 | .466 |
| 2007 | 13 | .866 |
| 2006 | 14 | .933 |
Also, Shelley played an average of 3:15 per game during last year's playoffs.
Just sayin'.
In this piece, it is assumed that McLellan will be rotating players in and out of the lineup based on health/who has the hot stick, as well as assuming that the top six forwards on the team will be in the lineup on a nightly basis. There's really no use in analyzing if those players "deserve" a spot in the lineup at this point in the season. Also, in order to keep things at a manageable level, the following players have been deemed "worthy" of getting consistent postseason starts: Cheechoo, Roenick, Moen, and Grier. That leaves us with two skaters to fill out the card. If you disagree with that by all means support a dissenting argument in the comments.
Penalty Drawn Differential
| Skater | GP | Drawn | Taken | Dif. | Dif/82 gms |
| Goc | 49 |
11 | 10 | +1 | +1.67 |
| Cavanagh | 17 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Armstrong | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| McGinn | 32 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Plihal | 59 | 7 | 11 | -4 | -5.56 |
| Lemieux | 16 | 1 | 3 | -2 | -10.25 |
| Shelley | 64 | 24 | 33 | -9 | -11.53 |
| Staubitz | 32 | 22 | 28 | -6 | -15.36 |
** H/T to On The Forecheck for the data
Takeaways: By no means does this serve as an ultimate indicator as to whether a player should be included in the lineup, but when put in the larger context of this post, it could help to give the nod to one "tweener" over another. Staubitz (and to some degree Lemieux and Shelley) are really the only players who seem to have significant numbers- averaged out to a seven game series, it's likely that Goc and Plihal's totals won't be a factor.
Let it be noted that it may have been more beneficial to round this out to 60 minutes instead of 82 games, but unfortunately there were some issues. For one, I didn't want to use even strength ice time (where the majority of penalties are drawn and taken), and risk inflating/deflating the numbers. On the flip side, it would have been unfair to use total ice time. Some players see more PK and PP time- that could have skewed the numbers a bit.
In summation, Shelley, Staubitz, and Lemieux's totals look all the more worse when compared against other players who have had more ice time.
Penalty Kill & Powerplay Time
| Skater | GP | PK Time/G | PP Time/G | Total Time/G |
| Goc | 49 | 1:27 | 0:16 | 1:43 |
| Plihal | 59 | 1:08 | 0:10 | 1:18 |
| Armstrong | 2 | 0:06 | 0:23 | 0:29 |
| Cavanagh | 17 | 0:02 | 0:06 | 0:08 |
| Staubitz | 32 | 0:00 | 0:11 | 0:11 |
| McGinn | 32 | 0:01 | 0:04 | 0:05 |
| Lemieux | 16 | 0:00 | 0:03 | 0:03 |
| Shelley | 64 | 0:00 | 0:03 | 0:03 |
Takeaways: Not a lot of power play performers on this list. Therefore, it seems that penalty kill time would be a good way to sift through the remaining skaters. A lot of this ties into Patrick Marleau- with his current injury, it would be wise to limit his exposure on the PK (currently at 2:35 per game, second on the team behind Vlasic). Those are tough minutes, and the grind may end up decreasing his effectiveness during a playoff run*. Goc and Plihal are the only candidates who fit this bill amongst the group.
Grier's return will definitely help in this category.
* However, as we have noted before, Datsyuk and Zetterburg saw a fair amount of shorthanded time during the Wings playoff run last season. I don't think this discredits the assertion that it would be wise to limit Patty's minutes, but it should be kept in mind.
Even Strength Point Production
| Skater | EV TOI/G | Goals/60 | Assists/60 | Points/60 |
| Plihal | 9:00 | 0.46 | 0.92 | 1.38 |
| McGinn | 8:20 | 0.67 | 0.44 | 1.11 |
| Goc | 12:04 | 0.21 | 0.83 | 1.04 |
| Cavanagh | 7:35 | 0.47 | 0.47 | 0.94 |
| Staubitz | 5:58 | 0.31 | 0.62 | 0.93 |
| Lemieux | 7:15 | 0.31 | 0.31 | 0.62 |
| Shelley | 6:03 | 0.00 | 0.51 | 0.51 |
| Armstrong | 6:56 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
+/- Statistics
| Skater | GFON/60 | GAON/60 | +/- ON/60 |
| Staubitz | 0.94 | 0.62 | +0.32 |
| Plihal | 1.83 | 1.83 | 0.00 |
| Goc | 1.55 | 2.07 | -0.52 |
| Shelley | 0.93 | 1.70 | -0.77 |
| Cavanagh | 0.93 | 1.87 | -0.94 |
| McGinn | 1.35 | 2.70 | -1.35 |
| Lemieux | 1.03 | 2.57 | -1.54 |
| Armstrong | 0.00 | 4.32 | -4.32 |
Takeaways: Plihal and Goc are once again in the top three for both sets of statistics. One thing to note in terms of the +/- is that, as well as being relative to the team, it is relative to the competition as well. Players such as Staubitz and Shelley are not getting thrown out against the top scoring lines of opposing squads (in fact they usually get paired up with the other "fighting" lines). That could account for some discrepancy in the numbers.
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The wonderful thing about the Sharks season is that the injuries they have been dealt have vastly increased depth across the board. There's a lot to be said for a team that has managed to get 109 points up to this point, while dealing with injuries of that magnitude. To emphasize this point, here are the number of skaters that the post-lockout Stanley Cup Champions dressed on their way to their respective Cups:
Detroit- 14 forwards, 7 defensemen
Anaheim- 18 forwards, 8 defensemen
Carolina- 14 forwards, 7 defensemen
As we can see, depth is going to play a crucial role going forward.
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Going through this piece, and listening to other people's proposed lines yesterday, here is my ideal lineup. However, let it be noted that much can change during the course of the postseason and different situations will call for different types of players. At the end of the day, and after much deliberation, this is what I came up with. It's possible I'm beating a dead horse, as it has been extensively covered in the aforementioned fanpost, but I thought it would be fitting to use my admin privileges to rant and rave.
So is life eh?
Marleau-Thornton-Setoguchi
Michalek-Pavelski-Clowe
Roenick-Goc-Cheechoo
Moen-Plihal-Grier
Personally, I like seeing Roenick on the wing as it gives him more opportunities to skate off the puck. He's very adept at finding seams and moving his feet, which compliments Goc's ability to create scoring opportunities. He also has very good hands (something that really doesn't regress all too much, even at the ripe age of 39), which would be knock out when paired with Cheechoo. This line has the ability to score goals, play a very sound defensive game, and get physical.
The fourth line is where things get really good in my opinion. Talk about shutdown. Moen was a part of the checking line for Anaheim when they won the Cup, and his contribution during that run (along with Pahlsson) was a key aspect to their success. Pairing him with Grier and Plihal makes for a very imposing crew of players to face, and coupled with the last change at home, McLellan will have boundless opportunities to throw them out against the opposing team's top line. They're physical, decently quick, and all very good in the defensive zone. There's a reason all three players see a lot of PK time.
In terms of playing time, the top two lines would get their current regular season share with the customary playoff bump of additional shifts, while the bottom two would essentially split the remaining ice time in half. Obviously this is situational.
As for naming them "third" and "fourth" line, there's really not a whole lot of reason to do so in this system due to the fact they will be getting roughly the same number of shifts. Moen, Plihal, and Grier face the top line for their lion's share of minutes, leaving the other three lines to feast on either a) weaker opposition or b) a tired group of players double shifting/worn down by the checking line.
McGinn is obviously left out here, but he will be an excellent contributor when people are nursing their eventual injuries and dealing with the fatigue the playoffs always bring. He has an excellent future in this organization (hell, all of FTF was buzzing about him way back in December when he was playing on the fourth line), and has the potential to be a big part of this team going forward. That being said, I don't think he has enough experience and/or production to warrant getting the start right off the bat (provided all of the aforementioned skaters are healthy). However, I would not be surprised to see him get spot duty here and there, and possibly light it up and find a way to stick.
He just may be the wildcard who puts us over the top.
Go Sharks.
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I think the stats speak for themselves.
I don't like you Detroit.
by mattman on Apr 1, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
come on sharks fan open up your imagination a little we are in the playoffs (insert round/team here),
battleing, maybe even losing the game, think about throwing a line that contains either staubitz or shelley or both, (excuse me while i barf), up (excuse me again), I’m not going to keep it a secret these guys are a complete joke. As plank suggests throwing out that fourth line of moen, plihal, and grier is just flat out phenomenal, I’m literally buzzing at that thought right now, that is a sick line that you need to go far in the playoffs. All tremendous penalty kill guys that play hard and know how to grind it out. We through this line out there against opponents top lines rough em up a little contain em a little, we get pucks deep, put pressure on the opponents, these guys have decent hands, which is nice too.
I don't like you Detroit.
by mattman on Apr 1, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Breakdown
Disclaimer: I’m totally biased. I’m a huge Shelley fan.
With that said, I think your lines are pretty awesome. I’ve been doing a lotta thinking about the lines the Sharks can put out when the playoffs arrive and if we are all healthy, and it’s pretty amazing the depth of this team.
My initial thoughts were to put Grier on the wing of the Goc line, and Roenick on Plihal’s line, but I think I like your suggestions better. Either way, those are some dangerous 3rd and 4th lines, and teams will have loads of trouble matching up against them.
I still think it would be pretty great if the Sharks threw Lemieux out there for the first game at Joe Louis should we play the Wings. But that’s mostly as a hockey fan in general and wanting to piss off the Wings and their fans. It could be pretty funny.
Also, I think Shelley has been showing a lotta energy and decent skating abilities lately. And on that 4th line, he’s starting to find some holes and get into some spaces that could lead to more production (besides his fluke goal against Pheonix, he had like one or two legit chances from in front of the net just from being in the right position). Combine that with a physical presence he has that a Plihal or McGinn can’t match, and I don’t think Shelley would be the liability everyone else here seems to think he would be in the playoffs.
Then again, I’m totally biased.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 1, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Some solid points, and I tend to agree that Shelley has shown some pop lately. I’m no Miss Cleo, but a lot of it might have to do with what we’re talking about here- a lot of guys are coming back from injury, and he may be feeling the heat a bit. Who knows.
I definitely don’t think he would be a huge liability out there on the ice- it just seems to me that there are a lot better options out there. Granted, this is all situational as well. Just glancing at some numbers from past teams who won the Cup post-lockout, Detroit dressed 14 forwards and 7 defensemen, Anaheim dressed 18 forwards and 8 defensemen, and Carolina dressed 14 forwards and 7 defensemen. I’m actually going to add that into the article because it’s a pretty good point to make- eventually it’s likely that Shelley will get some playing time.
I guess my point isn’t that, “Player X doesn’t deserve a lineup spot”- it’s more of the thought process of, “If game seven of the Stanley Cup was tomorrow and all these guys are functioning at 100%, this is who I go with.”
By the way, nice to have you on board at FTF.
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by Mr. Plank on Apr 1, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
I’ve been lurking for a while, after deciding that I needed an outlet for my Sharks fandom. And since I was already a long standing member of AN, i just checked the SBN links, and here we are.
Anyways, it’s completely true that everyone will most likely get playing time at some point, as the playoffs are a grind (at least, we hope they are this season). And you had some interesting statistics about fighting in the playoffs. If it comes down to needing to hit harder because their guys are taking runs at us, the Moens and Griers and Blakes on the team can handle that. But if we actually do need a fight…well, Moen actually handled himself ok the other day. But it would definately be nice to have a Shelley type to throw out on the ice.
I think it will end up being pretty matchup-dependant. I can’t see the Blues or the Wild requiring us to have an enforcer dressed.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 2, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT but pls tell me I'm not the only one
who thinks Ray Ratto needs to eat muck – Difficult to predict Sharks’ Cup chances
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
by ang6666 on Apr 2, 2009 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if that upset me all that much. In fact, he threw out some pretty interesting statistics. One thing he didn’t do, was make snide mention (as many others have) of the teams propensity to bow out early.
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by Dave Valentine on Apr 2, 2009 3:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we can get as healthy as we were earlier in the year (Mitchell obviously excluded), those lines with a mix of McGinn and Shelley/Staubitz (depending on who’s throwing their body around for our opponents) are ideal. We’ll see though how healthy we actually are in a couple weeks.
by Teas on Apr 2, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree with all of Plank’s line combos and also think that fourth line has mind boggling potential. For all the good we’ve seen Shelley do lately, for all the improvement Semenov has made, for the nostalgia factor of seeing Lemeiux on the ice during the playoffs, I just don’t see them out there too much. I agree that things will shift around due matchups, hot sticks, and injuries. But I think the boys Jason put out there is pretty much what we’ll see, at least through the first series
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by Dave Valentine on Apr 2, 2009 3:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You need to put this in a memo,
title it “Shit you already know” and send a copy to The Todd. Those are some sweet line combos there. That said, I’d like to see Shelley dressed for a game early in the quarterfinals. What’s the point of having a nuclear deterrent if the other guy doesn’t believe you’re willing to use it? And I’ll gladly take some slightly diminished offensive production for a game or two if it means we don’t have to see something like Corey Sarich laying out the captain or a Raffi Torres cranium-seeking elbow flying into Milan’s skull.
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by Lurker Shark on Apr 2, 2009 7:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think those are great combos
I would also bet that, with Goc getting PK time, that Patty or Joe would center the “3rd” line every few shifts as well.
I can also see Plihal jumping up into that 3rd line and sending Goc down to center the 4th line. One of the things Cheechoo needs is that guy who can battle down low, hold onto the puck, and feed it to him. Goc is a heady player, but he gets bumped off the puck a little to quickly to allow Cheech to find the soft spots. Plihal isn’t exactly Joe Thornton, but I think him and Roenick would provide a better cycle to allow Cheechoo to do his thing.
Seriously, if our worst offensive player is Marcel Goc, I like our chances. I can see running Shelly/Staubitz/Lemiuex a game or two against a Calgary or Edmonton, but I truly doubt Rob Blake and Travis Moen are gonna let another Cory Sarich episode happen.
by ruben398 on Apr 2, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
genius
that gives us three scoring lines with a real tough stingy fourth line that won’t let the opposition score and might put a few pucks on net as well
the only thing, and you mentioned this, is leaving out an enforcer
what do you do in the playoffs if/when Calgary, Anaheim, Columbus, or Nashville start making runs at Marleau or Boyle?
by Brian5517209 on Apr 2, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im sure
Moen, Grier, Murray, Lukowich, and Ehrhoff would have something to say about that but could they win in a fight against, say, Parros without looking like Jordin Tootoo?
by Brian5517209 on Apr 2, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If some one gets out of line I am sure Clowe, Blake and epically Murray can handle it
Not to mention Lukowich and if he is healthy Huskins. The point is there will be players on the ice who can sort out any transgreshins towrds our star players.
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by adragon on Apr 2, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice analysis.
However, I don’t like that 3rd line at all. One bit. It completely ignores the fact that ALL 3 of those guys cannot battle on the boards that well. Roenick, Cheech and Goc are all too slow at accelerating, and too weak muscle-wise. Together they would be the single worst line we could throw out there for battling on the boards. They would be dangerous in the open ice and decent defensively, but offensively teams can just push them to the boards and push them out. Roenick and Cheech might be crafty enough together to get it done, but i doubt it.
Plus, I have to agree with ZeroIndulgence a little bit. We need an enforcer so we don’t have teams taking serious shots at our top 6 forwards.
In this latest stretch, where teams have been battling hard every night, I have seen a lot out of McGinn which would tempt me to put him in the playoff mix.
I know there is plenty of argument against it but here is what I would do:
Top 2 lines: same
Moen/McGinn-Roenick/Plihal-Cheech
Shelly/Moen-Goc-Grier
If McGinn is in, Moen is a 4th liner. If Shelly is in, Moen is a 3rd liner. Roenick is in for most games, Plihal takes his spot once every 3 games.
Moen-Roenick-Cheech
Not as good in the faceoff circle, but solid forechecking line. Moen can help them battle on the boards, and Roenick is a much better centerer than Goc. All three of those guys are good screeners, so having them swarming around in front of the net could cause enough chaos to warrant having either Boyle or Blake on the ice at the same time as this line.
McGinn-Roenick-Cheech
Same as above. Solid forechecking. I think McGinn’s physicality and scoring potential makes for a good pairing with Cheechoo.
Shelly-Goc-Grier
A tough fourth line. Goc’s abilities in the FO circle is exactly what you want going against other top lines. Shelly and Grier are physical enough with Goc to make a scrappy, bruising puck-possession line.
Moen-Goc-Grier
Same as above, with a little less bruising, a little more speed/control.
So for a game 7 finals game I would rock:
Moen-Roenick-Cheech
Shelly-Goc-Grier
You tell the both those lines to go physical in the beginning. Goc will keep the puck away from the opponents top line for the 8-10 minutes that the 4th line is out there while Shelly and Grier pound the opponents repeatedly. Later in the game, when Roenick is slowing down a little, then you swap Roenick and Goc. Grier, Goc, Moen on PK duties with a rotating Michalek, Marleau and Pavelski. Every once in a while you double shift Marleau/Thornton with Roenick and Cheech.
Am I wrong? What is a more valuable use of Goc’s faceoff skills? To get puck control against the other team’s top lines or to have puck control for your third line’s offense?
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Apr 2, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
However, I don’t like that 3rd line at all. One bit. It completely ignores the fact that ALL 3 of those guys cannot battle on the boards that well. Roenick, Cheech and Goc are all too slow at accelerating, and too weak muscle-wise. Together they would be the single worst line we could throw out there for battling on the boards. They would be dangerous in the open ice and decent defensively, but offensively teams can just push them to the boards and push them out. Roenick and Cheech might be crafty enough together to get it done, but i doubt it.
I tend to disagree with that- for all of the heat Cheech takes for his skating ability, he’s actually really strong on his skates, both in the corners and in the front of the net. Goc wouldn’t be counted on for puck retrieval, and has shown a lot of elusiveness behind the net this season (a vast improvement from last year). As for Roenick, I believe he’s crafty enough to win those battles consistently. There’s been disagreement over Goc’s ability to generate offense (and, if I remember correctly, you stand on the “nay” side- correct me if I’m wrong of course), but I’m a big believer that he would be able to set up JR and Cheech with some solid scoring opportunities. He’s the lone distributor left to pluck from these lines, and I think with the addition of Plihal, it’s a slam dunk to have him center that third line.
In my eyes Plihal is a vastly underrated defensive forward, and he’s currently 5th on the team from the dot this season (and the last forward above 50%), which dispells the notion in my mind that he’s not suited to play the majority of nights. Obviously this is dependent upon whether he’s performing up to his previous levels once he returns, but that goes for Clowe and Grier as well. He was one of our best skaters in the Dallas series last season, and has provided a workmanlike approach that gets it done in the grind. For me, he’s a staple to any checking line we throw out there. The last question you posed about Goc, but I think it applies to Plihal- if he can hold his own in the circle (which his stats seem to indicate), then that fourth line is the shutdown force we can throw out against the top lines.
McGinn’s solid as hell, and definitely deserves consideration- if we go on a long run he’ll get his spots. He’s definitely my first guy off the bench.
As for dressing an enforcer, I don’t think it’s necessary considering we have Moen and Clowe as “fighters”, with Blake, Murray, Grier, and Semenov (if he’s in on that specific night) ready to quell any Cory Sarich esque occurrences. In my eyes it’s a little ridiculous to skate a guy for three and a half minutes. Detroit didn’t have one (McCarty could be considered that guy I guess, but I see him as more of a Moen type- he wasn’t the "heavyweight"), and Anaheim threw Parros out there for a comparable amount of time. All that does is mean more minutes for everyone else, compounding into fatigued legs in the later rounds. Sure he may see spot duty here or there, and I’m fine with that (for example a 3-1 series lead), but starting him during a game seven doesn’t make sense to me.
To each his own of course.
That being said, while I definitely prefer my lineup card, it’s not as if yours has any glaring faults that would make it worthy of scrapping entirely. The roles of Plihal and Goc seem to be the main assertions for both of us, and I’m fine with that.
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by Mr. Plank on Apr 2, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As for dressing an enforcer, I don’t think it’s necessary considering we have Moen and Clowe as "fighters", with Blake, Murray, Grier, and Semenov
Thing is, being an enforcer is much more than just the fighting. You have to intimidate the other team, get the other guys off of their game, and create space for the star players. I’m pretty sure those guys have their jobs to do, scoring or defending. It would hurt the team if they were off the ice for 5 minutes.
Even with that said, I’m not really sure about Shelley playing , I’m not too sure where I stand on this. I’m just saying the enforcer role is much more important than just fighting. And yes other teams (detroit) don’t have an enforcer and continue to win, but they play a different style of hockey. I don’t know if the Sharks want to go with the big, tough physical team or have a skilled set of guys with out the physicality or if they want to do both.
This one will have some thinking time with me tonight. I’ll see if my brain has a reasonable answer tomorrow.
by idunno723 on Apr 2, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is, being an enforcer is much more than just the fighting. You have to intimidate the other team, get the other guys off of their game, and create space for the star players.
A good point, and one that I think is worth making. Enforcers are absolutely crucial to the regular season, as they do just that.
However, I’m just not sure how much space our skill guys will be given by dressing Shelley during the playoffs. Most playoff games are absolute grind fests as is, and I don’t think having him sitting on the bench will decrease that. Jody Shelley was in the lineup during game three- it didn’t seem to have any affect on Sarich’s desire to hammer Patty. While that’s on a completely micro level, I think it does serve as a decent basis of comparison, considering when we think of “taking runs at our star players,” it’s the first thing that comes to mind. Also, it’s not as if the Sharks are a soft team with Shelley out of the lineup. Grier, Murray, Blake, Moen, and Clowe are all hard dudes, while guys like Big Joe, Cheech, Plihal, Semenov (the list goes on) are able to handle their own business as well.
Like I mentioned somewhere else, I’m not trying to say, “Player X doesn’t deserve a spot in the lineup.” The Sharks are blessed considering there’s a lot of depth on this team, which is the only reason we’re having this discussion.
I love Jody Shelley and everything he brings to this team- it’s very likely he gets some starts during the run, and all his contributions during the year make that well deserved. He will be an asset situationally.
I just think there are some more viable options out there we could pursue when filling out our “best” lineup.
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by Mr. Plank on Apr 2, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
this is the hard part. All I can say is I’m happy I’m not the one filling out the lineup card!
by idunno723 on Apr 3, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah me too. In fact it’s a little pompous to think we may have a “better read” on the situation over McLellan, who spends time on the ice and in practice with them daily.
I’m pretty sure it’s the reason I’m running a blog while McLellan is preparing the team for a Stanley Cup run.
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by Mr. Plank on Apr 3, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait too see what the lines are gonna be for the playoffs. It’s gonna be awesome
And if I was running the Sharks my top line would be Shelley-Staubitz-Murray
How that happened? I don’t know.
by idunno723 on Apr 4, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
regardless of stats
it really boils down to composure and discipline in my opinion. shelley is an enforcer when he needs to be but also maintains both qualities. I haven’t been too impressed with Staubitz’s performance. Sure, he’s the flashy, ready-to-throw-down player that some fans love to see but sometimes, especially come playoffs, the undisciplined play and willingness to get penalized over small matters will come back to haunt us. Shelley should definitely be dressed for playoffs because he’s smart enough of a player to know when it’s appropriate to enforce or not.
by Sharks In Your Mouth on Apr 8, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i would like to see Shelley dress
I’d prefer that he wasn’t naked all of playoffs
by a10dency2ask on Apr 8, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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