Thoughts
Honestly, last night's loss hasn't quite sank in yet. Sure there's the let down, the frustration, the anger, the sadness, the multitude of melodramatics that a playoff ousting consists of. All of these things come with the territory.
But to sift through the vast tide of conflicting emotions emanating from your pores a mere twenty four hours after a team that we have dedicated hours, days, and years to, ceases to exist in it's current form?
Heartbreaking.
I wish I could come here and say that I'm content with the wonderful season San Jose put together. I wish I could come here and say that, "Go get em next year!" and "The boys gave it their all!" is a sufficient response to what occurred on the 27th of April.
But the fact of the matter remains- the Sharks are done. In the first round. No amount of Presidents' Trophies, career years, or record breaking performances can change that. What we have on our hands is black and white. You can label it a success, but I refuse to do so. Not because I do not care about this team, not because I am dissatisfied with all of the great memories they have provided this season, not because I am not proud of the Sharks obtaining the best record in the NHL at the end of 82 games, and certainly not because I won't be tuning in for every single game next season.
It is because this team had talent. They had leaders. They had skill, they had role players, they had goaltending, they had everything that, on paper, comprises a Stanley Cup winning team.
And that is the reason why this should not be casually brushed away.
This is not to say I'm disgusted with the team. You look at Edmonton, it was a lack of physicality. They got pushed around and intimidated. You look at Detroit, it was an inability to cope with adversity. Game four still remains the most gut-wrenching loss I have ever witnessed, and the performances in games five and six were uninspired. You look at Dallas and realize the blueline was not good enough to make a run.
This year, it was different. Sans game four the Sharks came out to play every night. They finished checks. They got pucks on net. They fought to get traffic in front. They competed, and no matter what people will tell you, they showed "heart" and "a will to win."
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the difference in this series was. Hiller was phenomenal. If Giguere is in net, I doubt this even goes to game six. Seriously. Anytime a goaltender posts above a .950 SV% you are going to have difficulty winning the series.
Credit Anaheim's blueline as well. Every time the Sharks attempted to generate speed in the neutral zone Anaheim stood them up at the blueline. Every time Hiller left a rebound in the low slot Anaheim either a) cleared the puck b) tied up San Jose's sticks or c) cleared bodies out. It was nothing short of superb.
Carlyle also deserves congratulations, as well as the Ducks forwards. Bobby Ryan's goal in game two was humbling. Ryan Getzlaf's goal in game one was tragically beautiful. This is a damn good team.
Alas, it doesn't change the fact that the Sharks are sitting at home right now wondering just where the season went.
Being the self-loathing type, I've read an assorted amount of pieces today. The one thing that jumped out at me was the anger some fans felt towards Joe Thornton's unwillingness to meet with the media after game four and game six. He was the first person on the bus, and didn't offer a quote.
Maybe it's just me, but I find this absolutely asinine. This man had just poured everything he had into a complete 82 game season. This man had just experienced probably the worst playoff loss in his career. This man had just been punched, both metaphorically and literally, in the face.
There's no reason to offer a quote. None. If I'm Joe Thornton I'm getting out of there as quickly as I can. Call it dodging, call it whatever you will, but there's no way I'm answering the question (posed in fifteen different ways), "How do you feel right now?"
How do you think he feels. How do you think this entire team feels right now? Sure the fanbase is pissed. I'm pissed, you're pissed, everyone is pissed.
But we didn't go out there and compete. We haven't dedicated our entire lives to winning the Stanley Cup, a dream I'm positive every single one of these guys have shared since their playing career began. What the hell do we know about this specific disappointment? What the hell do we know, sitting behind the safety of our computer monitors, about what's going on in these players heads right now? We didn't deal with Chris Pronger's crosschecks. We didn't play through various physical injuries that hampered our ability to perform to the best of our abilities. We didn't do squat.
If we're disappointed, you can best believe every single one of these guys is dying alive.
This is the precise reason I will never make a recommendation on who should be awarded the "C"- it's a facet of this team I'm not qualified to pass judgment on. The on-ice play is visible, we can see what determines that fine line between victory and defeat. But to pretend that we're aware of everything a certain player brings to the locker room is foolish. This isn't to say I don't have an opinion on the matter- everyone has an opinion, and all of those opinions are completely viable. However, I will never choose to state it. Once that decision is made we will certainly comment on it, but at the end of the day, there is a reason Todd McLellan is coaching the Sharks. 55 damn fine ones at that.
This team has a bright future and a murky past. It's a paradox that will continue to haunt everyone involved, from the fanbase to the management to the players, until the puck drops next October. It's a damn shame that the stigma of "playoff chokers" gets thrown around so haphazardly in the media, because I don't think it fits the bill. As so many of you have insightfully stated in downtown Mogadishu (i.e. the comments section lately- take that as a compliment), the NHL playoffs are a crapshoot, and the Sharks have come out on the wrong end of that crapshoot four seasons in a row. Anaheim won this series because of goaltending. The Sharks didn't choke. It's the easiest story to write, and completely off base. If you're calling for all of these players jobs without acknowledging Anaheim, it's high time some folks started calling for yours.
This whole article is a shining example of what going off on multiple tangents is all about. To reiterate- disappointed in the result, but can't find any glaring faults with the effort. I'm proud of the Presidents' Trophy, but it means very little at this moment in time. Hopefully the summer will help heal these wounds. This team has a good core and will be a playoff team for years to come. San Jose came into this season with the playoffs being the ultimate measuring stick of the season. That goal was not achieved. It should not be taken lightly, nor do I expect Doug Wilson to do so.
In terms of throwing names out around, I'm wary to engage in that at this moment in time. There needs to be reflection. In the meantime, look at this piece (circa early March), take a deep breath, mull it over, attempt to let the emotions subside, and get ready for the offseason where we will be all over it.
No matter what anyone says, this team was, is, and will be worth every damn minute of our time.
Go Sharks.
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Damn straight
No one has said this yet. But we could be ISLANDERS fans. Only thing that consoles me now. That and beer. Hope to see some great offseason pieces, Plank and crew.
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Additionaly I love the "downtown" Mogadishu correlation
It makes me think of allhailtheredwings and Ducks’ trolls being Somalian weapons dealers trying to sell/goad us into killing ourselves whilst Spade and all the BoC people are the classy arms smugglers that rolled in limousines in this battle, nay WAR of California. For now, Arnold must bow to Anaheim. Next year, NAY I SAY! TIBURONES FOREVER!
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha, I like that imagery. You’ve got a bright future sir.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Apr 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
been loving the Sharks since my first game at the tender age at 8 and I’m not going to stop now
and i still believe that we are very very close to putting together a championship caliber roster
by Brian5517209 on Apr 28, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the precise reason I will never make a recommendation on who should be awarded the “C”- it’s a facet of this team I’m not qualified to pass judgment on.TatS so EZ!! dan boil iz lik teh best sHark! mak him kaptain!
-sHaRksfannn4eva
(quote in quote by design)
That is exactly why I haven’t been saying “FIRE PATRICK MARLEAU”. I just couldn’t have put it into words.
And that quote by sHaRksfannn4eva is all over Faceook.
I had fun watching the Sharks, point of being a fan right?
by idunno723 on Apr 28, 2009 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the reason why Dan Boyle is everyone's favorite pick to be captain
is because he is vocal. We sheep believe what the media tell us, and the media tell us Patty is no good because Patty doesn’t even raise his voice for the microphones. Being vocal sells, and gets you segments on ESPN/whatever. We all know he loves this team, but it is never brought up he grew up in SK for god’s sake, and not Saskatoon or Regina either. Everyone I know from that province is just laid back.
Marleau got 2 GWG this series, and over the next days we are going to find out what injury he has been playing with this playoffs. Don’t jump the gun on who should get the “C” next year.
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We sheep believe what the media tell us
Yeah … you may be a sheep … some of us like to think for ourselves.
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
by ang6666 on Apr 28, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm making a generalization, and my comments show I don't ride the media boat.
Ok, I really, really, don’t want to get into a grand argument, but did you even READ my entire comment? Personal attacks aren’t going to bring back this season.
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's also worth pointing out
that being a quiet captain isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The other players have said in the past that when Patty stands up to say something, the locker room listens. What the captain says to his team is far more important than what he says to the press.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
by Lurker Shark on Apr 28, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marleau is a leader
Sorry to drag my personal fan history out in this context, but recall that no one ever accused Yzerman of being loud or in anyone’s face.
He wore the C for a number of playoff failures, and was subject to the same doubts as we hear about Marleau. That all changed, but Yzerman never did.
If anyone in the lockerroom had a problem with Marleau we’d have heard it by now. He’s fine.
by DetroiterInNorCal on Apr 28, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marleau got 2 GWG this series, and over the next days we are going to find out what injury he has been playing with this playoffs.
Sprained MCL (bottom of the page)
So, what in the knick-knack-paddywack-give-a-dog-a-bone is going on around here? — Dan Rusanowsky
by Section223 on Apr 29, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just looked that up
Basically, its a knee ligament that helps the leg bend (something pretty important for a fast skater like Marleau). And, according to a few websites, even for the mildest sprained MCL, Patty should have been out for at least 3 weeks. Second degree is 6-8 weeks, and third degree requires surgery. So yeah, he was playing through quite a bit of pain and physical limitations.
by mymclife on Apr 29, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marleau has represented the franchise for years
and he is still only behind Ignila in playoff goals scored in the last half decade
i say let him keep the C if DW in turn keeps him
by Brian5517209 on Apr 28, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fear The Fin: Where Everyone Is Dying Alive
by a10dency2ask on Apr 28, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Damned Right!
I had one hell of a time this season…the wins..the records…the camaraderie of FTF…
And to say I’m disappointed, devastated even, doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface. Still, I’ll take this season forward as one of the most fun I’ve had in many years. For 6 months I rode the wave and had a great time. Sure, I want more. But that’s what being a fan is all about (at least in my fandom experience) since I’ve never made it to the top. I’m not quitting on ‘em. I’m gonna just recharge and then anxiously await next season. My love for the Sharks won’t diminish, only grow stronger.
Fear the Fin....where being an old guy isn't all bad, and the 2nd round can be bad on the heart
by Dave Valentine on Apr 28, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+10
Summer it up perfectly for me, Dave
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by CTGray on Apr 28, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And well said Plank
Well said.
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by CTGray on Apr 28, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm mostly pissed
because I found a bar with $1 beers and the hockey playoffs in HD just in time for the last two games.
quick response to plank:
100% with you on Thornton. seriously, who friggin cares. he’s got nothing to offer up that we don’t already know, and anything he does say will just get picked apart by the media vultures.
And sure we should be happy with the Pres. Trophy, but all it serves as now is a chilling reminder of this playoff series loss.
Overrall, I’m right there with you about how this team is worth every minute. At least the city gets playoff games, it could be much, much worse.
The NHL playoffs are, and always will be, a crapshoot. About all you can do is get there every year and hope for the best. all these losses will just make it all the more sweeter when they do break through.
by sharks on Apr 28, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
at least we get fun hockey
i know the playoffs are supposed to be about dump ’n chase, interfere, and tie up sticks, but i still enjoy watching passing and shots. thank you sharks for some fast-paced exciting games.
by DetroiterInNorCal on Apr 28, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may watch more hockey next season.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 28, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do it.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Apr 29, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very well said.
Emotions are high right now and people are having the knee-jerk reactions you’d expect them to. Getting bounced this early sucks balls, yes. It was still one hell of a season. We’ve still got a damned good team. I believe in Doug Wilson. He will bring Lord Stanley’s Cup home.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
by Lurker Shark on Apr 28, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we could be cubs fans
waiting for 101 years and counting.
"It aint over till the fat lady sings." - Not Yogi Berra
by serrapadre716 on Apr 28, 2009 7:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Really the way my Giants and Niners' ownership are handling the teams
I know I’m going to be dead before either one of THEM see a championship again.
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the niners
have two 1st rounders next year
you should be lucky you’re not a Raider fan
by Brian5517209 on Apr 28, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was watching the Draft
and when AL selected DHB I WENT INSANE!
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But a toast
To our Sac Town Kings getting the 8th seed next year! </unrealistic prediction>
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEEEEEE
GO KINGS!
you thinking Griffin or Rubio?(assuming we get a top two pick)
by Brian5517209 on Apr 28, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I listen to KHTK WAY too much
they have torn my mind in HALF. LITERALY
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though I think
Griffin by a hair.
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im concerned
it will take Rubio too long to learn the ways of the NBA
i think Griffin can step in and make an immediate impact
but where would Griffin play?
he might be too big to play the 3 and i don’t want to bench JT or Hawes…
by Brian5517209 on Apr 28, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the main concern
Griffin is such a big talent, but Hawes and JT but have been very good picks. Especially JT, he hasn’t been spectacular, but he has been CONSISTENT. I say let Blake battle it out for a starting job in camp. If either JT or Spencer don’t come in energetic from the get go, you make them get their starting jobs BACK!
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
im’ glad I’m a Dolphins fan
Vontae Davis defensive rookie of the year!
by Brian5517209 on Apr 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am lucky
with the 7th pick in the NFL draft, the oakland raiders select not michael crabtree
"It aint over till the fat lady sings." - Not Yogi Berra
by serrapadre716 on Apr 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just watch
Crabtree become a bust and DHB suddenly learn to catch!
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know how you feel
but at least there’s hope for the giants and niners now. lincecum, enought said
"It aint over till the fat lady sings." - Not Yogi Berra
by serrapadre716 on Apr 28, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the Giants make the playoffs
then Lincecum, Cain, Johnson, and…Zito(maybe) could surprise a lot of people
by Brian5517209 on Apr 28, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless an epic collapse by the Dodgers occurs
That won’t happen, unless somehow the Giants REALLY step it up and get the wild card, but I doubt the NL wild card is gonna come out of the west.
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey now... at least we're not raider fans...
They will never be good again until the Davis is 6 feet under…
by SetoThorMarChooSki on Apr 29, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully Sharks fans
don’t become utterly insane like the Cuns fans are
by sharks on Apr 28, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
demon BE GONE!!!
"It aint over till the fat lady sings." - Not Yogi Berra
by serrapadre716 on Apr 28, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it gets worse
or…more pathetic is probably be a better way of describing it
by sharks on Apr 28, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
aannnnnnddd
not the last time they turned to holy water when they brought a priest into the dugout before a game, since apparently satan is somehow part of the curse
by sharks on Apr 28, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell are we gonna do?
fish a great white out of the pacific and leave it flopping at the entry to the tank?
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm rec'ing this
the visual made me laugh
by sharks on Apr 28, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could find the words
But I cant.
I’ve tried to dig deep and tried to break it down. But I cant.
I’ve tried not to think about it all day, but inevitably in doing so, I’ve thought about it all day.
I can only be optimistic for the future, and hope that we can all make better sense of this when the dust settles.
by Morti on Apr 28, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My friend,
maybe this will help. I saw it and immediately thought of you.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
by Lurker Shark on Apr 28, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovely!
I prefer get fuzzy, but I have spent a lot of time on the subject, and karma has indeed punished me accordingly.
by Morti on Apr 28, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Fuzzy is a fantastic strip.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
by Lurker Shark on Apr 28, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely rec'd!
Fear the Fin....where being an old guy isn't all bad, and the 2nd round can be bad on the heart
by Dave Valentine on Apr 28, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of me would take quotes here and there of your post and insert my thoughts. But I’ve had a lousy day. Nearly everyone at work has come up to me to say “I’m sorry bout your Sharks” and all I could respond with was “I don’t want to talk about it”. Just wanted a day to let it seep in before I deal with it. I’m bitchy and it shows today.
Your other post showed that we would be damn lucky if TM was able to get the team a Cup this year. Being a first year coach and all. And I held back at the time of replying that he may be a first year coach, but they sure the hell aren’t first year players. Not the ones you come to depend on to make the big plays. They have the talent. It just didn’t work out.
I asked a friend of mine who has been following hockey alot longer than me, and has even played, “how is it possible that a team with this much talent can have this happen”. I’m still waiting on the answer. Guess I’m just depressed, and confused.
Kinda like having a genius child who chooses to not do anything with his brain but instead fuck around playing games. Just floors me.
Well … next year. Always next year. ugh!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
by ang6666 on Apr 28, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll take that as an apology
Also, sorry about your kid
/proceeds to run away at full speed with eyes covered and never read the comments on this post again.
The fat lady is clearing her pipes. Time to shove some corn down her throat.
by joe579 on Apr 28, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!!! He's gone!
Right?? please?
I had fun watching the Sharks, point of being a fan right?
by idunno723 on Apr 28, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*slowly claps*
This sums up almost exactly what I’m feeling and thinking. Yeah, I’ve been posting pretty positive stuff yesterday and today, but looking on the bright side only puts a band-aid on the pain, it doesn’t do anything to make it hurt less. Like today in school we received a paper that listed all the graduation/promotion dates and places for the middle and high schools in the district (Rose Garden for us, how original). A few of the middle schools do it at the Tank, and so there’s a little note at the bottom stating “Dates/times may change pending availability of HP Pavilion/Sharks playoffs.” I almost cried.
But still, that doesn’t mean that I can’t recognize how hard the Sharks played for a large majority of the series (one game excluded), and just how much Hiller stood on his head. The Sharks played their asses off, playing through all sorts of injuries (I bet a large sum of money that I don’t have that there will be multiple guys getting surgery this off-season, and that Marleau will reveal a rather large and painful injury that he was playing through). For that, I can’t be mad at them. Disappointed in yet another early exit? Yes, but not all the blame can be placed on the play of the Sharks.
by mymclife on Apr 28, 2009 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You're all forgetting the upside to this
At least you’re going to get to focus on the next three rounds of the playoffs without anxiety. I sat through game 2 and that was enough for me this playoff year.
I may be upset now, but I’ll find a way to get excited about every single move that happens this summer – who stays? who retires? who goes and who comes up from Worcester?
I don’t see fault in what DW has done, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. If we have the same roster next year, he will have done his homework and talked to all the right people. The Sharks’ problems at the end didn’t start in game 1 and probably won’t be finished by October. Be realistic!
by stufflife on Apr 28, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
choking
to me choking is more about having something in your grasp and crumbling under the pressure. You could pretty well say the sharks did that against detroit and edmonton. But I think you’re right ,Plank, this is something else. They might not have shown up in a couple of the games this series, but sometimes you just lose. Unfortunately, as Gray points out, Sharks will be called chokers until they win 10 in a row, so let’s just move on with our lives
by a10dency2ask on Apr 28, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
feel a lot better about the sharks if the wings have the same issues
Red Wings are pretty good about shutting down one-line teams and deflecting garbage past super-human goalies. If the Duckies can beat them then we should all reconsider the depth of our disappointment.
Ducks are hot, match up well against the Sharks, and were pretty much the worst possible draw. How I curse the preds and wild for not winning just a couple more games! Hatred and fear toward the Ducks.
I know it’s a homer thing, but all the breaks bounced to the Ducks in this series. My ears still ring with the clanging posts and deflections hissing past the Ducks net.
by DetroiterInNorCal on Apr 28, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How I curse the preds and wild for not winning just a couple more games! Hatred and fear toward the Ducks.
The Sharks could’ve won both sides of the home-and-home at the end of the season and put the Ducks out of it too, unfortunately that didn’t happen either… :(
But we didn’t go out there and compete. We haven’t dedicated our entire lives to winning the Stanley Cup, a dream I’m positive every single one of these guys have shared since their playing career began. What the hell do we know about this specific disappointment? What the hell do we know, sitting behind the safety of our computer monitors, about what’s going on in these players heads right now? We didn’t deal with Chris Pronger’s crosschecks. We didn’t play through various physical injuries that hampered our ability to perform to the best of our abilities. We didn’t do squat.
I fully resonate with this portion of Plank’s post, I had to not watch Game 5 to prepare for my own competition on Sunday…(which was kind of a waste because I bombed out…)
there have been many times when I’ve been on the reverse side of this, and there is no way to describe the feeling of playing your heart out and still coming up short. Its the worst feeling I’ve ever had, and it kills that the Sharks are going through it right now.
Joe’s 5 points in 6 games wasn’t enough in this case, but nearly a point a game clip is usually pretty damn good. Marleau had 2 GWGs, I don’t think either of them should go. The RFA/UFA part of the offseason is always scary when you look at the core of the team, guys that you feel connected with who may or may not stay.
I do have one personnel opinion though….painful as it is, I think Nabokov peaked and is showing that he’s on the decline. Its unfortunate, but ever since Warren Strelow passed I think Nabby’s shown more and more of the bad habits that Strelow worked on with Nabby. Stuff like standing up instead of sliding with traffic in front and no sight of the puck.
I’m not talking just playoffs, regular season too, we’ve all seen the soft goals, the ones “he should have had”, it seems like something is missing from his game. Whether it is or isn’t the void left by Strelow I have no idea, but sometimes it seems like Nabokov makes what should have been average saves look spectacular due to poor positioning or decision-making. Stuff that should be instant reaction to a truly elite goaltender.
by isaku900 on Apr 28, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Nabokov peaked and is showing that he’s on the decline. Its unfortunate, but ever since Warren Strelow passed I think Nabby’s shown more and more of the bad habits that Strelow worked on with Nabby. Stuff like standing up instead of sliding with traffic in front and no sight of the puck.
I definitely agree with you here, and if you look at the series, Nabokov should take a lot of heat. To reference my own words and turn the tables a bit, “Anytime a goaltender posts below a .900 SV% you are going to have difficulty winning the series.”
If the price is right.
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by Mr. Plank on Apr 29, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plank, your words echo my thoughts exactly today...
I can’t, and therefore won’t try, to add anything else. Well put.
But man, I could use a little good fan karma lately. I tuned into the A’s game today to see if maybe the A’s could win and help me feel a little better…but they lost 4 people to injury in one game and lost on an error in the 8th. Ugh. I wonder what I did to anger the sports gods :-P
Take care of yourselves fellow Sharks fans. We’ll all pull through this together. :)
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by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe, Media Relations Isn't Leadership
Plank, you’re right on. And to further elaborate on what joe579 said, I think writers are pissed he didn’t talk to the media after game 6 because it made their job harder. Waaaah.
And this applies to both Joe and Patty: the skillset you need to be an engaging, thoughful interview doesn’t remotely overlap with the skillset you need to be a world-class hockey player. Lack of the former sheds no light on the latter.
by mepex on Apr 29, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here Here!
Well said Plank! To me Patty will always be the captain we need, level headed and talented, being an example to the team that its better to be calm and collected than get in fights and take yourself off the ice for 5 minutes. I’m proud of the Sharks for their President’s Trophy, I’m proud of McLellan for guiding the Sharks to that trophy. We fought hard and things didn’t go our way, and maybe they won’t go our way again next year. Saying that the Sharks choked this one away does a disservice to how hard the Ducks played and fought, and does a disservice to how on fire Hiller was, he stole enough games and carried the team on his back when they needed him. Best of luck to the Ducks, I hope they beat Detroit.
by SirVenro on Apr 29, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
To me Patty will always be the captain we need, level headed and talented, being an example to the team that its better to be calm and collected than get in fights and take yourself off the ice for 5 minutes.
I’ll echo this — I mean, if you want a comparison, I don’t know if Scotty Niedermayer has ever stood up and addressed the Ducks. He may have, but it’s not a huge deal if Scotty sits in a corner of the locker room and says nothing for a season. Probably his defining moment as captain was getting a puck shot straight at him by Daniel Alfredsson in the cup finals… and responding by doing absolutely nothing.
There’s nothing wrong with a silent captain — in a lot of ways, leadership by quiet example makes for an excellent captaincy. Results may not always be there, but I don’t think blaming a guy who “only does his job” accomplishes very much.
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by Earl Sleek on Apr 29, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chalk this up to Sharks fan’s emotional displacement due to losing. They want to yell at/kick the ass of the Sharks roster. Since, obviously isn’t going to happen, they think it’s the guy with the C’s job, maybe ’cuz they think every captain should be Mark Messier.
It’s pointless though. Anyone here ever see Niklas Lidstrom getting in someone’s face, or Joe Sakic kicking a team member’s ass? Modano is probably uncomfortable high-fiving his team-mates, and he won a Cup with the C on his chest. Even Scott Stevens wasn’t necessarily a very vocal guy; he just played better than anyone on the ice during the playoffs.
by ievans on Apr 29, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Far too many people
confuse being the captain with being the media relations guy.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
by Lurker Shark on Apr 29, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 90% with you
Except that I don’t honestly have a problem with the choke label. This is no disrespect to the Ducks, who we knew were going to be tough. I think it’s choking or not-justifying-their-seeding or not playing up to expectations (same thing, IMO) because they basically squandered all the hard work that brought them the #1 seed.
If you’re going up against a hot goalie and a tough, physical team, then you have to match them. Nabby didn’t match Hiller, at all. In the playoffs, Nabby has never just shut the door and outplayed the other goalie when it was clear the team needed it.
Our top line was outplayed by Getlaf/Perry/Ryan. Our second and third lines were outplayed by the Ducks, despite our better secondary scoring and depth. Our entire D was outplayed by the Ducks top-4. We couldn’t match the physicality of the Ducks, we couldn’t match the speed of the Ducks, and we couldn’t crash the net like the Ducks to get the kind of deflections that beat us.
The final outcome, 4-2, was no fluke, then. The Ducks played better individually and collectively. If we had completely outplayed them, but Hiller was out of his mind and stole 4 games, that’d be one thing. But it wasn’t. We spotted them two games, played a good game to get the first win, and then handed them the series with game 4. That’s a choke job. Being the top seeded team in the NHL and never being in the drivers seat of the series is choking.
by ievans on Apr 29, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just think the choke label is thrown around too easily by the media- it’s an easy label to slap on a team, and doesn’t really take into account the entire body of work (which in this case would be the series). For me, to say “The Sharks choked,” implies that they were the ones who lost the series on their own accord. It doesn’t take into account Hiller, Anaheim’s D, Getzlaf’s line, and all of the things that you mentioned in your comment.
It’s probably just a personal difference of opinion in the connotation vs. denotation of the word.
As for Nabby, I completely agree, and posted a comment somewhere in this thread that was along the same lines. He was vastly outplayed by Hiller. Yes there were multiple reasons why the Sharks lost this series, but at the end of the day, a sub-.900 SV% is flat out not going to cut it.
I don’t have the time/will to do the research, but I would be absolutely shocked if a team has won a series post-lockout with a goaltender who posted those kinds of numbers.
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by Mr. Plank on Apr 29, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday
The day after the Sharks loss, I go to work and the first thing I smell is the OVERWHELMING smell of burnt (pop)corn emanating from the break room….
Someone was rubbing it in, I swear….
Fate, you’re a cruel bitch.
by Juicebag on Apr 29, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rollercoaster
I’ve gone from swearing off hockey to peeking at last night’s games to looking forward to the inevitable off-season moves by Wilson. I’m glad the Sharks take a measured approach to things, becuase reacting emotionally to this situation could be a disaster.
The Ducks are a very talented 8 seed, and I do think they will give Detroit fits. That’s a 7 game series all the way. If Hiller plays out of his mind again (and there is no reason to think he won’t), it really doesn’t matter what the Wings throw his way.
Yes Sharks, I’ll be back next year. And do me a favor: play mediocre hockey until the last 10-15 games of the season. Surge to a 4 or 5 seed and then kick ass and take names.
Old time hockey, just like Eddie Shore.
by hamshark on Apr 29, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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