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Looks like the Prongernator has a new home, although BOC seems to doubt the deal went down. If the deal happens as reported, the Ducks will recieve Jack Johnson and the 5th overall pick in this year's draft. Both the Kings and Ducks deny that the trade is final.

UPDATE: Trade just announced on KNBR, so I'm assuming it's legit.

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Back that crazy train up!

I see other places reporting it, but what team(s) make a deal on the day of a game 7 in the SCF?! Isn’t that verboten, or something?

That fact alone makes me dubious. But we’ll see.

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

GM denies Pronger trade

Certainly, there can be no official deal anyway between teams until the Stanley Cup is won tonight. The roster freeze that goes into effect at the NHL trade deadline remains in place until the season is over – for purposes of fairness, more than anything else.

So we’ll have to wait until later tonight or tomorrow for the official word…unless “NO” is the official word.

So, what in the knick-knack-paddywack-give-a-dog-a-bone is going on around here? — Dan Rusanowsky

by Section223 on Jun 12, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still dubious

having read Spector’s info on it.

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Yea...

But I’ve heard multiple mass media outlets confirm this, so we’ll see.

If it’s true… that’s a steal of a deal for Anaheim.

Fear the Fin: Where we just have to want it more!

by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 12, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

aye

It’s just super suspect when something like this leaks at this time of year.

Anyway, can Pronger really be traded without his wife’s approval? ;)

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOO!

With a trade to LA We still get too many chances to boo Pronger in my opinion.

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by Morti on Jun 12, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

This puts some interesting spin on the Heatley rumors...

If the Kings make this trade, it might take one suitor out of the Heatley deal. Unless, like Sir Snipesalot told me on the phone two seconds ago, you believe that the Kings could be positioning themselves to ship Pronger to Ottawa for Heatley, although I doubt that Ottawa would make that deal without the 5th pick.

If it does take another player out of the race for Heatley, does it mean the Sharks have more leverage in a deal now? I would immediately take Marleau/Michalek/2nd Rnder for Heatley/1st rnder. I’d switch Michalek for Ehrhoff and do it even faster.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 12, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I still think getting rid of Marleau is an enormously BAD idea. I’d also like to keep Milan. Not being won over on the scenarios involving Heatley that have been tossed about of late. Not saying I wouldn’t want him, I just don’t like the ways we think it could go down.

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love Marleau, love Milan...

But there’s a point where you just have to say f&^* it and blow it up. Not to say that’s what I want, but I’d rather have Heatley than Drury or whatever other hot smell is out there.

Ottawa has to include their first round pick to make this deal doable in my opinion.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 12, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you’re giving up that much, yes, I want a 1st rounder for it.

I dunno, I’m not tossing Patty under the bus. I have a feeling he may not be Captain this coming season, but that’s just my gut talking and it’s hungry, so who knows if it’s telling me the truth.

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not tossing Patty under the bus either, but to get a guy like Heatley you have to give something up. I think that trade makes the Sharks better, who knows.

Fear the Fin: Where we just have to want it more!

by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 12, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess we’ll see what DW has in store for us soon, ne?

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you see now...

why I wanted a sweep?

I think a Heatley deal will drag for a bit though, might be a draft day thing. The Blues are supposed to be big players, but I don’t think they’ll mortgage their future to get him. They’d likely have to part with one of Perron, Boyes, or Oshii and their first rounder… don’t think I’d do that.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 12, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh

I’m fine letting it take a little more time. That way we don’t run out of things to talk about by July 2nd. (hopefully….)

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried...

I can talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk…. and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk…

 and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 12, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

good to know!

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by CTGray on Jun 12, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally off topic...

lol I was remembering the State of the Sharks address, and I believe the FTF group sat right next to me. I remember some dude in a suit with a notepad who asked me if I could move down a seat and just a few minutes ago I went back and looked at the “State of the Sharks Pre-Event…” post and read that TCY was the one wearing a suit. I was the guy in the dark gray t-shirt and blue jeans with the backpack on the floor drinking a Sierra Mist next to TCY. Sorry for the off-topic comment. I have a really good memory and sometimes tend to remember useless stuff. Anyway, back to FTF…

by c.perez on Jun 13, 2009 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good, except....

I do not think trading Marleau is the right thing in this situation. Trading him or Joe is most likely the only way we can get Heater, but I would be more comfortable sending Cheech and Ehrhoff instead of Marleau, although I would probably never forgive myself because I love cheech. Still have my whistle from 05-06 and bring it to every game I go to.

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 12, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

unforunately he's not the cheech of old,

we don’t want him and it doesn’t appear that anybody else does. I’m seriously sad though this was my guy and to seem him play now is definitely sad but that season was incredible.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Jun 13, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it, the Penguins win the Stanley Cup last night and there isn’t a front page headline about it on either Yahoo Sports or ESPN today and you go to Pronger’s News & Notes page and nothing. I will go to my grave trying to figure out why the fuck basketball is more popular than hockey.

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by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Advertising wise, I would agree with you. Watching wise, basketball might be the worst sport ever; particularly the last 2 minutes, which should be the best part. Plus, with that much scoring, each point is [essentially] worthless.

Any grammar nerds in here? Was that a proper use of a semicolon? Me failed English.

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by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate basketball, ESPECIALLY the final minutes.

Foul, foul, foul, foul, foul… puhlease.

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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 13, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really destroys the drama. I keep hoping they’ll change the rules somehow to stop the foul frenzy, because I might then enjoy watching. It’s unlikely to happen though.

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by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

My dad advocated that if a player commits a foul, he has to stay off the court for a minute, making his team short-handed. He also added that players should be able to change on the fly.

I like it, and might actually start watching basketball if its implemented, but it’ll never happen, since its too much like hockey.

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by mymclife on Jun 13, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm not going to come out and tell you that you're wrong

cause you’re not everybody likes different stuff and is wired differently, a lot of people are going to say hockey sucks baseball sucks golf sucks basketball sucks. I’m just saying that a vast majority of America disagrees and thinks the games have tremendous drama, when it comes down to the last possession i definitely agree thats awesome to watch and drama, but you have a very valid point. I like all sports (yes including the boring ones (tennis, golf, baseball (widely considered the most boring sport=wrong you idiots okay i can’t say that)), so I watch basketball obviously and think it has been a good series.

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Jun 13, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fully agreed on all counts

And the Magic really shit the last game away.

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by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

that was terrible, they could easily be 3-1 shoulda woulda coulda

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Jun 13, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playoffs are brutal like that

As any Sharks fan knows.

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by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

but in hockey it is just so much easier to pull a massive upset a la ducks, basketball it just doesn’t happen often, yeah the warriors did it but other than that it just doesn’t happen every year the top teams are going to be in the mix, thats why i think the cup is the hardest to win in all of sports

I don't like you Detroit.

by mattman on Jun 13, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another complaint about basketball

Home court is too valuable. It should have some value, but the best teams win what, like 85% of their home games?

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by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

We

all got our own opinions. Personally basketball is my favorite sport and the sport that i grew up watching and learning, with the Warriors being my diehard team. But the Sharks and hockey is right behind that.

by thecity23 on Jun 13, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

As mattman said, it truly is a personal opinion, and I hope you don’t take my complaints with the game personally. Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.

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by marcello on Jun 13, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT?

I thought that was just a myth!

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Fools and Sages

by mymclife on Jun 14, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some people?

Try the rest of the world!!

Being from England, Football was a big part of my life for a very long time. (Sorry, can’t call it Soccer, it doesn’t sound right) The pace is very different from all other American sports. It’s not to the taste of everyone. Not as fast paced as hockey, but faster paced than baseball. It doesnt require all of your attention, but it requires more than baseball.

American’s will always have a tough time with football because you never see the talent in the game that the rest of the world has in it’s leagues. I wouldn’t follow any MLS teams because they are basically made up of one or two talented guys (most likely at the end of their career) and the rest are Busch League nobodies.

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by Morti on Jun 14, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

If the rest of the world likes it there has to be something good about it… right?

I just don’t see it and probably won’t ever see it. I try not to bash soccer football though because football fans can just as easily say American sports are boring.

by idunno723 on Jun 14, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

With both teams denying the deal....

Does this mean it will become official on Draft day, or will there be different players involved in the deal than now?

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 14, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

i would hope the Ducks have to give up more

to get a young promising blue liner and a really really high draft pick
even though Pronger is good, he’s getting old and expensive and that would free up the Ducks cap to sign another star player to go along with Jack and whoever they pick :(

by Brian5517209 on Jun 14, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

As constructed, this trade would be a coup for the Ducks.

Fear the Fin: Where we just have to want it more!

by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 14, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

KNBR said it because

FTF posted it of course

"It aint over till the fat lady sings." - Not Yogi Berra

by serrapadre716 on Jun 14, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

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