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UFA of the Day: Brian Boucher

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GP MIN W L T EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2008 - Brian Boucher 22 1291 12 6 3 2 47 2.18 563 516 .917 2

Brian Boucher has put up very good numbers over the course of his last two seasons with San Jose, and has garnered a pretty nice following of fans here at FTF. That fact probably has little correlation with him re-signing this offseason, but if you're reading Mr. Boucher, I hope you got my letter.

As for his play throughout the year, not much has to be said- he was lights out in November when Nabokov went down during a shootout against St. Louis. Chicago and Montreal were some poor performances that stand out in immediate memory, but for the most part he was a more than capable backup goaltender.

That, however, is the kicker when it comes to Boucher. Backup goaltender. It's very unlikely he will have any opportunity to wrangle the starting position away from Nabokov next season, even though his numbers may be better (as they were this season).

Looking at the goaltender market this offseason, there's not an exorbitant amount of value for teams to snatch up. While I'm not saying Boucher is the cream of the crop, he's definitely in the same skill range as a lot of those players once you get past Khabibulin, Fernandez, and Biron. This makes me a little wary to assume Boucher would re-up at last year's contract for a couple reasons:

1) He has established himself as a serviceable goaltender. Obviously playing in San Jose has benefited his numbers, but the .917 SV% he posted this season would put him in the top ten league-wide if he had played enough games. There is much debate on the merits of goaltending statistics the NHL uses (Brodeur Is A Fraud is an excellent site*), but save percentage is a fine one considering it's less likely to account for the strength of the team. At any rate, it is likely Boucher has caught the eye of a number of GM's looking for a quality backup.

*Nabokov is listed as overrated, while Irbe is listed as underrated. Caught my eye is all.

2) Cash rules everything around me. At this point in Boucher's career, he's nearing the point where it's likely this next contract will be a last opportunity to cash in on a multi-year deal. His career statistics (as Valentine mentioned) are not spectacular, but playing for two seasons at a high level makes it likely he will be due for a raise. How much that will be is anyone's guess, but with San Jose's cap situation tight, it's possible the price range exceeds what Wilson would be willing to pay for a goaltender who will see roughly 20 starts.

3) Other teams interest. Ties in with one and two. A good fit would be Washington, who might be willing to pay him $1.5 at two years, contingent upon them dealing Theodore (which admittedly would be a chore with that behemoth of a contract) and handing the reins to Varlamov (a whopping 5 regular season starts on his record). It's an insurance move that a few teams would definitely make.

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Another point I'd like to throw out for discussion is that of Thomas Greiss filling the backup role if Boucher signs elsewhere. To start this off, here's what I had to say earlier in the year:

Worcester Sharks: Thomas Greiss has put up uninspired numbers this season with the Worcester Sharks (3.09 GAA with a .892 SV%), and coupled with his stint last season on the big club, it looks like he needs more time in development.

- "Looking Forward", 4/1

While I still tend to agree with the assessment that I'm not sold on his ability to consistently give the team a chance to win nightly, it's time San Jose made a decision on who will carry the torch once Nabokov's flame in San Jose burns out.

Nabby is slated to hit free agency next offseason along with a couple other players. Looking at the big four on that list (Setoguchi, Pavelski, Marleau, and Nabokov), his future with the team is not set in stone. Personally, I place him behind all of those players when taking into account the contract length (all will be looking for a multi-year deal), price, age, and skill set.

Therefore, it might be time for Wilson to trust the vaunted goaltending system of San Jose and give Greiss 20 starts to understand where he is in development. Along with freeing up a roster spot/playing time in Worcester for other goaltenders (and therefore strengthening the system), it will help Wilson make a more informed decision on what to offer Nabokov. If Boucher is out of the team's price range, I think you have to roll out Greiss in a backup role*.

*Three notes- Greiss is an RFA, although I see no reason he will be extended an offer sheet (i.e. I think he will be with the organization next season). Gustavsson potentially signing with San Jose could make this moot. Most importantly, there was some good conversation on the merits of Greiss earlier today:

The thing is, he was used in 07-08 as a backup (since Patzold was strictly a bench-warmer), and he lost every single game he was in (sort of like McElheinny or w/e for the Flames). He got his first professional shutout this past March, despite playing professionally for several years in the AHL. And if Greiss does end up being a bust, we still have Dakers, Stalock, Sexsmith, and Sateri all developing right now. And those are just the big-name goalie prospects; I’m sure there are even more hidden in college, juniors, and the Euro leagues that the Sharks have drafted. Its just that, having a Vezina-caliber workhorse goalie in net already tends to limit the chances for goalie prospects to get starting positions at the NHL level, which means that we won’t be able to fully utilize our goaltending depth.

- mymclife

I think we have to keep greiss and try him as the backup this season. What’s the point of having so many goaltending prospects if there’s no chance to break them in before they get thrown out there. We need to use them and start a bit of rebuilding without damaging the team.... I’m just saying if we dont’ start bringing in the youngsters now, as scary a prospect as that may be, we’re gonna get stuck one of these years with goalies totally inexperienced at the NHL level unless we dish out a bunch of money to either keep Nabby or get another great goalie.

- a10dency2ask

07-08 soured me on Greiss. It’s obviously not fair of me to make a decision based on a small selection of performances, but he did nothing to make me feel comfortable handing him the reigns when Nabby eventually retires or signs elsewhere. I’m willing to have him prove me wrong, but I’m not sure he’ll get much of a chance behind Nabokov.

-CTGray

Plank's Final Offer: One year at $1.0 M flat. I'm not completely sold on Greiss' ability to serve in a backup role; that accounts for Boucher's pay increase. However, anything more than that requires me to let him walk and set the franchise up for the future.

 

Go Sharks.

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If you were Doug Wilson, do you re-sign Brian Boucher?
Yes
120 votes
No
77 votes

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I feel robbed. Where’s my poll?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 25, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions  

What’s this poll you speak of? The one we’ve been doing all offseason long?

Ah, good point.

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by Mr. Plank on Jun 25, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I knew you wouldn’t fail me.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 25, 2009 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t let me off the hook that easy- I failed you the first time :)

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by Mr. Plank on Jun 25, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

This may be the toughest one of these yet.

I’m saying yes but, like you, only as long as we don’t break the bank for him. As far as a back up goes, Greiss may be serviceable and cheap. As much as I’d like to keep Bouch around, he’s earned himself a nice fat contract. I just don’t think the Sharks are the team that can afford to give it to him.

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by Lurker Shark on Jun 25, 2009 7:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Love the picture

Since I’ll be in Moscow in a week, chillin’ with Boucher and the Russkies.

I’m in Estonia right now – I’m taking a midnight bus to St. Petersburg.

Drunk K has been spotted in the streets of Tallinn over the last two nights – he couldn’t track down an internet portal, otherwise he’d say hello.

I just realized – it’s 9:30am PST. It’s 7:30pm in Estonia – 8:30pm in western Russia.

Last night I met a Latvian guy, and asked him in Russian if he knew who Sandis Ozolinsh and Arturs Irbe were = I think I learned the Russian for “duh.”

Take care all, 12 days down, 43 to go!

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by Mr. K. on Jun 25, 2009 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I love Boucher...no, seriously, love him.

When I got NHL 09, I immediately traded Nabby and used Boucher as my starter. I mean, its bad. However, I do not think we should resign him. Boucher is definately not our future in goal. He’s a good, quality backup, which is nice. But, with Nabby’s contract almost up, and other younger potential backups out there (Griess, Gustavsson, etc.), its time to use the backup goalie spot to get a look at Nabby’s potential successor. If we don’t end up signing The Monster, put Griess back there and see what he’s got (or trade for Halak, but we’ve talked about that scenario already). Griess seemed to be coming into his own a little bit in the AHL playoffs this past offseason, so maybe he’s turned that corner and is ready for a shot. Either way, its time to see what some of our kids have got, and start planning for our future in goal at the NHL level.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

off topic -

anyone see the news about the revived, ten-movie best picture format? Thoughts?

by a10dency2ask on Jun 25, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

i'm a fan of boucher

however, it’s obvious that the organization and coaches think of him strictly as a backup, and not as someone who can be rewarded for his good play with a chance to play more. I don’t really know if that’s a good or bad thing, but it seems to me like whoever the backup is, they should be given a chance to compete and a chance to gain the full trust of the team and coaches. Sure, if Nabby stays he will be number 1, but it doesn’t seem productive to play a backup who , besides currently not being the starter, will definitely NEVER get a chance to be the starter. At least if we’ve got Greiss, Gustavsson, whoever in there, we know there’s some kind of a plan moving forward and that the games the backup plays are meaningful in terms of development as well.

by a10dency2ask on Jun 25, 2009 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I say:

Bring up the kids.

Having Boucher back would be nice but I think some other team will go out and get him.

by idunno723 on Jun 25, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm biased but.............

I think we should keep him.
In a semi-related topic. With a lot of Sharks fans seemingly wanting to trade Nabokov and get another starter, I have to throw in my two haypennies (That’s right, I have not one, but two haypennies) I think some people are overlooking the fact that Nabby is usually excellent in the playoffs. With the exception of the last two years, but I think Nabby was tired last year, and its hard to blame Nabby when the whole team is sucking in front of him. Sure his numbers aren’t great and he might be a little over paid. But one stat that gets ignored is how many one goal games he wins. I don’t know specific numbers, but I know its very good. Plus, from what I’ve read, he’s very loyal to the organization. He was very upset with himself when he held out a long time to get a better deal earlier in his career. I don’t know if he would take a pay cut, but its something to keep in mind.

Also, people are overlooking Boucher. If we were to get rid of Nabby (I cry just thinking about it) I would just rather go with Boucher. People forget that at one point the Flyers viewed him as the future of their organization. He’s suffered a lot of bad luck in the NHL, but I think he is NHL starter caliber.

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by Diamondback15 on Jun 25, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Waterboy!

I love Boucher – he’s hilarious and has this odd tendency to get shutouts. The fact that Randy often accidentally calls him “Bobby Boucher” is priceless. However, from the day that he was signed to the Sharks from the Philly Phantoms, it was pretty obvious that he was merely going to be a backup, no more. There wasn’t going to be a competition for the number one spot like there was when Toskala was here, or Kipprusoff, or Shields; Nabby was #1, and Boucher was #2. We all accepted that, outside of our wish that he got a few more starts.

The thing is, the Sharks have a TON of goalies in their system – I think they’ve drafted 9 goalies in the past 5 years, or something ridiculous like that. And thus far, the only goalies from said system that have gotten chances to play the last few years are Nabokov, Patzold, and Greiss. True, most of the goalies that have been drafted need a few years to get used to the professional level and develop their games, which is why Boucher was brought in – so the Sharks would have an NHL-caliber goaltender backing up Nabokov while Greiss, Dakers, Stalock, Sexsmith, and Sateri develop more. I want to keep Boucher, because he’s awesome, but if one of the goalies in the AHL is ready to take the reigns as a back-up to Nabby (or if Gustavsson chooses to sign here), I just can’t see him being re-signed in San Jose.

Oh, and Boucher’s numbers have warranted him to get a raise, which is hard with the cap-strapped situation that the Sharks are in. If another NHL team sees fit to give him a raise and/or a starting position (like the aforementioned Washington), I’d let him do it, as he’s earned it after toiling away in the AHL and taking a position as back-up to one of the most notorious workhorse goalies in the NHL.

Anyways, since Boucher is awesome, here are a few highlights:
Puck stuck in his mask
Some robbery
Advocates stalking
Wants softest shot in the ASG, among other things
Russian Jingle Bells
Oh, and a heads-up – if you don’t want to be reminded of a very unfortunate moment from this past year, don’t look up “Brian Boucher” on YouTube. Trust me.

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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by mymclife on Jun 25, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I Love Boucher....

However, I do think it is time to give the younger guys in goal a shot.

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 25, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Like others have stated

I like Brian as a player and a lockeroom presence, but it’s time to let one of our three goalie prospects in Worcester (Dakers, Greiss or Stalock) have a shot or go after Gustavvson and trade away one of them.

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by Teas on Jun 25, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm torn

I Love Boosh, and I never expected him to be anything more than a backup. I don’t think he expected much more either. He’s solid and reliable (assuming the team is playing well in front of him) and his goofing around totally wins awesome points with me.

Despite my personal misgivings on Greiss, I realize that if we don’t start to give some of our net minders in the system a chance it will only be worse when Nabby poofs.

I think I’ll go with YES at 1mil. Any more and he should be allowed to find a better offer. I’d be sad to see him go, but I wouldn’t blame him for looking for more playing time and moola, given his performance over the past two seasons.

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by CTGray on Jun 25, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

and to add a girly aside

Boosh is easy on the eyes. I’m just saying….

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by CTGray on Jun 25, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

True that.

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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by mymclife on Jun 25, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

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