Qualifying Offers to Clowe, Mitchell, Staubitz, and Greiss

QOs mean a 10% raise for those making <$660K, 5% raise for those making <$1M, and no raise for anything else.

Goc, Plihal, Kaspar, Morris, Armstrong, Ashton Rome, Taylor Dakers, and TJ Fox did not get QOs. I'm assuming that indicates that the Sharks aren't as high on these players as they are on the titular four, and we'll likely see some of them not with the Sharks next season (whether it be San Jose or Worcester). Or they just don't deserve raises, I don't know.

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so it doesn’t mean they’re officially off the sharks, just that they aren’t getting a raise?

by a10dency2ask on Jun 29, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think so, I’m trying to find out more as I type.

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by mymclife on Jun 29, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

apparently there will be updates in an hour...

by a10dency2ask on Jun 29, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW

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by That'll Cheech You on Jun 29, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Okay, I think I got it – a qualifying offer means that if the team extends the offer, they want to keep the rights to the player and the player remains a restricted free agent. If the team does not extend a qualifying offer, the player in question becomes an unrestricted free agent, and the team will get no compensation if they sign somewhere else.

Basically? Goc, Plihal, Kaspar, etc. are all now UFAs instead of RFAs. Which makes sense, because their salaries fall into the category where even if they were RFAs, if another team signed them away the Sharks would get no compensation. And giving them QOs would mean that the Sharks would have to give them a certain raise, which they might not want to do

Here are the new numbers for RFA compensation (as per Strickland):

$994,433 or below None
Over $994,433 to $1,506,717 3rd Round Pick
Over $1,506,717 to $3,013,433 2nd Round Pick
Over $3,013,433 to $4,520,150 1st, 3rd
Over $4,520,150 to $6,026,867 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,026,867 to $7,533,584 (2) 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Over $7,533,584 (4) 1st Round Picks

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by mymclife on Jun 29, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

but...

they can still sign with the Sharks?

by a10dency2ask on Jun 29, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

I believe it just means that we aren’t obligated to give them that 5 or 10 percent raise

by Chicago Shark on Jun 29, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and this means that while Clowe’s minimum salary will stay the same (as he was signed for more than $1M), Mitchell’s and Greiss’s minimum salary is $761,250; and Staubitz’s is $522,500.

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by mymclife on Jun 29, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

compensation

what kind of compensation do the sharks recieve in another team signs (lets say) clowe? like picks or something?

by briansays on Jun 29, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup, picks. The number and kind of picks depend on the salary the new team is paying him (as shown by the chart posted above). So, if another team signs Clowe to an offer sheet of $3.5M, the Sharks would get a first and third round pick as compensation from that team.

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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by mymclife on Jun 29, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

WTC Update

So, what in the knick-knack-paddywack-give-a-dog-a-bone is going on around here? — Dan Rusanowsky

by Section223 on Jun 29, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Goc is gone

And, second, even though the Sharks are free to offer Marcel Goc a contract after July 1 if they want him back at maybe a lower price, that just isn’t going to happen. So it’s not just a matter of economics.

"I think it’s probably time for him to move on for another opportunity," GM Doug Wilson said of Goc. "He’s very professional and he’s a good man, but I think his game has leveled off with us. We want to go in a different direction and have a different mix on this team."

So, what in the knick-knack-paddywack-give-a-dog-a-bone is going on around here? — Dan Rusanowsky

by Section223 on Jun 29, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s sad to see, but not very surprising. When his career-high point total is 22 on a stacked team like the Sharks, its never a good sign.

Also not surprising is Wilson saying that both Kaspar and Morris were busts (Morris, at least, had issues that started after he was drafted – Kaspar just didn’t have enough heart).

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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by mymclife on Jun 29, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

:(

I guess I’ll need a new name next season…

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by Swift Kick in the Goc on Jun 29, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its starting to look like the majority of the changes this offseason will be a pretty good sized overhaul of our third and fourth lines. And that sits just fine with me. Our top two lines are among the best in all of hockey, and you don’t blow something like that up just because of a 1st round exit to the Hiller’s. That said, we needed more scoring depth throughout our lines, and it looks like DW is now freeing up room to make some move to make that happnen.

I’m not surprised to see Goc, Plihal, Kaspar, or any of those guys who didn’t get QO’s headed out the door. They just weren’t very dynamic players, and were definately parts that could be upgraded this offseason.

It will be interesting to see who Wilson brings in to replace these guys. Some will come internally, I’m sure (McGinn most likely), but it could be opening up the door for some of TCY’s mancrushes, or some other productive third and fourth line grinders.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bye Goc

I always thought you were a cool guy and all. I hope you get another “opportunity” and do well!

(wait a minute am I really talking to him?)

Oh wells.

-The dude responsible for this mess

by idunno723 on Jun 29, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

thank you to Marcel

He was a good servant, I think. In my view he wasn’t really a part of the problem with the Sharks, but I guess this move doesn’t really hurt or help the Sharks either way. Good luck in the future Mr. Goc!

by a10dency2ask on Jun 29, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

NOOOO Marcel Goc!
I am now indefinitely sad. He was always one of my favorite & reliable players, even if he wasn’t much of a scorer.
I’ll always remember his blog. Sigh.

by PHiSTER on Jun 29, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess neither Goc nor Plihal were ever game-changers… not bad players but you couldnt consistently count on them to really make their presence felt on the 3rd/4th line with great checking or keeping the puck in the other team’s zone.

by calbear12 on Jun 29, 2009 7:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Welcome!

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by That'll Cheech You on Jun 29, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wait

so does that mean that clowe is guaranteed to be on the sharks next year? him and mitchell are the only things i really care about in this anyways lol

by briansays on Jun 29, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nope – no guarantees until Clowe signs a contract. The qualifying offer simply means that the Sharks want to keep his rights, making him stay an RFA and therefore have the RFA rules (i.e. offer sheets and compensation) apply to him. Another team can still sign him, only now they have to give up picks to the Sharks if they do, and the Sharks have a chance to match their offer.

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by mymclife on Jun 29, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs