Marleau for Heatley?

I do not think we should trade Marleau, but if there is another player with Milan (whom I love to death, but Heatley would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade) that equates to his salary or surpasses it, I say go for it.

However, given the cap next season/season after, I can’t see it happening.

We would essentially put ourselves in another tricky situation with a shrinking cap, which is to have to deal good players for salary reasons, and maybe not being able to sign next seasons free agents.

There are so many variables to consider, there is no way I’d ever want to be a GM! Unless it came with an unlimited supply of Kettle corn.

but Patrick Marleau is my hero! Look! →

But really I don’t think this can happen. Marleau’s got the no-trade clause and I don’t think he would want to play for the Sens.

Dany Heatley with the Sharks? Yes please. I know I’ve been an advocate of keeping Marleau, but if you get an opportunity to land one of the most proven goal scorers in the NHL you don’t think twice.

As for a one for one swap, I don’t think Ottawa pulls the trigger. You’d have to package (like you alluded to) Milan or maybe Cheechoo along with Marleau. Even then the Sens are pushed up against the cap and need to clear some space as well, so we’d have to take on a salary that’s roughly equal to what we are sending over. Marleau and Cheechoo for Heatley and Volchenkov wouldn’t be a bad deal, but I think Ottawa can get more for that.

All in all a great idea, but like idunno mentioned, Patty has a no-trade (and I believe Heatley does as well, but wanting to get out of Ottawa makes that irrelevant I guess). Throw in the salary complications and I say it’s pretty unlikely. Although Sufferin’ succotash Bryan Murray did make that horrible deadline deal for Mike Comrie*…

*If we’re talking about a Heatley trade to the Pacific, the Kings probably make more sense for Ottawa. They have a ton of cap space and the prospects to clear salary in Ottawa/help them get younger for their rebuild.

For Marleau? No.

I think what stands out about Heatley to me is that he’s a goal scorer that doesn’t necessarily need a player like Thornton to be effective

marleau doesn’t need thornton. he put up good numbers before the trade to get thornton. but i have to admit, he’s no heatley.

like you said, heatley is due to get $8 million from whatever team he’s on, so i don’t think it’ll happen just because of the salary cap issues. also why would marleau let the sharks trade him to some crappy team?

Heatly for Michalek, Cheechoo and a pick or two. Milan makes about $4M and Cheech about $3M right? Oh damn it. I have sooooooooooooooo much respect for GMs

Guys I don’t want to trade, period:
Marleau, Setoguchi, Pavelski, Mitchell, Boyle, Vlasic.

While I am attached to the other players, I won’t be completely crushed if they are traded. Plus, my list contains a good mixture of franchise cornerstones in Marleau and Boyle, and young future stars in Setoguchi, Pavelski, and Vlasic. And then Mitchell, who is just awesome.

I’d love Heatley – him on Thornton’s wing with Seto on the other would make it possibly the deadliest first line ever. However, his contract and the concerns about the cap for both this year and next makes me a bit worried – we’d have to mortgage our future to get him both this year and years to come because of his NMC, and that would suck.

But, if I were to make an offer for him, I’d offer something like Michalek, Cheechoo, and Murray (or Ehrhoff) for him and a second/third round pick. The only problem is, we’re losing three roster players and only getting back one with only about $1M difference – we’d have to be filling out the rest of the roster with AHLers and cheap players, which would drastically reduce the effectiveness of the team.

Or, in a completely dream scenario, Nabokov, Michalek, and Cheechoo for Heatley and Neil. What about the Sharks’ goaltending? Well, they bring up Stalock and Sexsmith as a goalie tandem, and both turn out to kick ass at the NHL level. Once again, this is a completely dream scenario, and is based upon the idea that both Stalock and Sexsmith can excel playing at the high level for around 41 games apiece.

And if you are wondering why I’m picking on Michalek so much, well, he’s just not consistent enough, Thornton would be deadly with Heatley (and it wouldn’t make sense for Ottawa since they have Spezza), and Clowe’s rights aren’t worth as much as a signed player.

Was Teemu Selanne. We gave up Jeff Friesen and Steve Shields. At the time, Sharks fans were wooing and wowing (including myself) because Selanne was arguably one of the top 10 players in the NHL. Well, we remember how well his stint as a Shark lasted.

What happens if Heatley doesn’t put up the goals and points. He’s moving from a different conference. Playing under a vastly different coaching style. Playing against the likes of Anaheim and Detroit 10 times a year. What else does he provide if he’s not lighting the lamp?

My concern is that this is the second time that he’s wanted out of a losing situation. First, Atlanta. You could make a strong argument that he wasn’t the same player in Atlanta following the accident. And it was a good move for both teams. But now that the Sens are at the bottom of the league, he wants out. What does that say about his character? Is he really the kind of player that the Sharks think will push them over the top?

Thinking this over more and more, getting Heatley would just destroy our depth. We’d likely have to give up Michalek and Ehrhoff+ for Heatley, and our return would just be a replacement for Michalek (albeit a much better replacement). The salary traded leaves the Sharks with a higher cap hit, and a need for another defenseman of Ehrhoff’s caliber for less than $1M, which we don’t have in the system. I mean, Joslin and Moore likely need one more season in the AHL, and Petrecki needs at least one more season, possibly more to get adjusted to the pro game, and none of them have the same level of offense and speed as Ehrhoff.

Heatley would be awesome if he was signed for $2M cheaper, shorter, and we didn’t have all those other big contracts. But its just not going to happen – five guys getting paid over $6M is way too many.

If Marleau isn’t involved, then it doesn’t make sense cap-wise.

I still don’t understand the immense loyalty some of you show for Patty. Yes, he’s a nice guy and he is a good player, but he’s never done anything to make me feel like he’s even close to untouchable. I’ve heard the talk about how a player like Yzerman took a long time before he won, but come on, Marleau is no Yzerman and never will be whether it’s leadership or pure scoring.

I like Patty, but he’s had a long time to prove his worth as both an individual and a leader and he’s come up short. In the era of hockey since the lockout a player of his skill-set should be absolutely dominate, yet we haven’t made it past the second round, or shown any real growth as a team (yes the regular season was nice, but flopping from Game 1 on absolutely ruins that). He’s a very solid two-way player, but he isn’t a true cornerstone player, whether some of you choose to accept that or not. He simply just doesn’t produce enough pure offense, which I think is a must when he’s your second highest paid forward. His value is higher after last year and it’s time to move him and this is the perfect situation.

Further, I’d like more of an explanation how Heatley jeopardizes our ability to sign other players? There’s only a 1.7 mill difference between the two contracts (Marleau’s and Heatley’s). That may cost us lower-end talent, but not nearly enough to say it’d jeopardize keeping some of our top end. Not to mention we still have a glut of centers, both coming up and on the current roster. We’re not just talking about some guy who had one good year (ala Cheechoo) and thus taking a risk, we’re talking about an elite, many-times proven sniper (both regular season and playoffs). He is absolutely elite and worth the risk of losing a high-end prospect down the road, considering how well we draft.

I don’t care if he doesn’t play D… 50-50 is hard to come by.

It’s NEVER going to happen though.

everyone is so eager to trade marleau. I know I’m one of few, but I just didn’t see what he did that was so much worse than what everyone else did in the finals, other than being captain I guess you might argue.

Someone asked what I’ve heard about the possibility of Dany Heatley ending up as a Shark. Here’s what I’ve heard: Don’t hold your breath. Let me just remind everybody that Heatley’s baggage includes a contract that has four years and $30 million remaining on it at a time when teams are projecting a significant drop in the salary cap for 2010-11.

So I’m guessing that’s a no. [link]

the guy cant shoot a slap shot.