WTC: Marleau stripped of Captaincy
Its official: Marleau is no longer captain of the Sharks. Along with that, Thornton no longer has the "A".
McLellan says that the letters will be given to whoever steps it up and earns them during training camp - so it might end up being Marleau again, but probably not, as the front office/coaching staff wanted a change.
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WHAT THE?!!!!
I am clearly qualified to make the decision on who should be captain and it should be Patrick Marleau!
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Seriously
I’ve been freaking out about this for the last 20 minutes.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Hate to say it
But I think I might have called this back in April guys… It sucks either way, but I’m not surprised.
"..." - unknown
by SetoThorMarChooSki on Aug 17, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
Haven’t people been calling it ever since he became captain? Or at least it seems like it.
-The dude responsible for this mess
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Nah
Only when there are not enough answers from the locker room in regards to the failures in the playoffs.
"..." - unknown
by SetoThorMarChooSki on Aug 17, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
WOAH
crazy. well at least there’s news! I wonder if this will increase or decrease the rumours on the marleau trade
Honestly, I think it increases
I think what may be more telling is the fact that Marleau wasn’t even present at the practice.
I don’t mind him losing the C, but I do mind him not being here next season.
If he goes, the Sharks better be getting a helluva package back.
Oh my Goc!!!
IMO, any news about the Sharks will increase the Marleau rumors. Except for maybe a statement by DW saying that Marleau won’t be traded. Even then, I’m not so sure.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
i still don't understand
why DW comes out and says WE WON’T TRADE THORNTON but does nothing for Marleau. I guess it’s a butts-in-seats thing
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Well,
If a Marleau trade does occur, he will be captain and lead his team to a Stanley Cup.
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Predictions?
Captain- Boyle
Assistant- Thornton
Assistant- Pavelski
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That looks about right, although I would prefer that Marleau would get the A over Thornton.
I could also see this happening:
C – Thornton
A – Boyle
A – Pavelski
I don’t want it, but it does seem possible.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
I’m not sure I see that happening. For some reason I get the feeling Coach Todd doesn’t think as highly of Thornton as the management – see last season’s icetime: Pavelski was getting the crunch time trust a lot more than JT
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Pavelski is also a better defensive player than Thornton is, which might explain why.
But as DW said that he’ll help decide who gets the letters, I wouldn’t put it past him to make Thornton captain.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
In Big Joe's defense
He knows how to work the refs. If the ref is only going to talk to one guy, and that guy is Joe, might not be a bad thing.
That said, yes, Pavs, kid’s a gamer and I would love to see him with the “C.”
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yeah but that doesn’t really make up for his reputation as one of the laziest players. Overall I just don’t like how everything is handed to him on a silver platter, the whole team is built around him and he is default #1 no matter what he does
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It can be frustrating
Playoffs aside (and that’s a very BIG aside), Joe is a star of the highest order. His numbers are silly, and players around him play better.
I still feel that such a large part of his game is drawing penalties, then cleaning up on the PP. That doesn’t happen as much in the playoffs, which hurts a player like him. The same has been said of “small” players, such as Paul Kariya.
Joe played with a bit of a meaner streak in his Boston Days. I wonder if that would be better for him. Part of his charm and the reason we like him so much IS that laid back attitude.
Again, I hope JR’s time in teal rubbed off on Joe in the sense of knowing when to be the fun-loving ham, and when to dial in and be a killer goal-scorer.
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everyone always calls for “angry joe” but we know we won’t see it. I say give the C to someone who earns it, not someone who is a star by default thanks to their skill
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe doesn't want to be Cap'n, or so I have heard (admittedly awhile ago)
he was in Boston and we saw how well that worked. I think he does better without the additional pressure of the C.
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ISWYDT
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
This combo is a distinct possibility
"..." - unknown
by SetoThorMarChooSki on Aug 17, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
more like distinctly poosible. i hate it!
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
this would have been funnier if i said a distinct poosiblity
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
poosibily
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How about Marleau with an A?
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marleau get an A. I mean, he was the Capitan of this team for years for a reason, so giving him an A doesn’t seem like that far fetched of an idea. I could see Boyle getting a letter, although I’m not sure one year with the team is enough to jump him to the C…so probably the other A. In my mind, that leaves Thornton, Pavelski…and really no other true contenders for teh C. I think giving Pavs the C would be a good choice…He’s a hard worker, he plays with some good passion, and he is one of the younger kids that has a (hopefully) long future with this team. Not a bad choice to rally around.
Predictions:
Pavelski – C
Marleau – A
Boyle – A
Of course, I know nothing about the inner workings of the team and the lockerroom…so maybe there are others out there who aren’t as visible to us who are awesome leaders out there.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 18, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I like this
The ultimate goal for this team is the Stanley Cup. That is 9 or 10 VERY LONG MONTHS away. A shorter, more near term goal of earning a “C” or an “A” might be a good thing. I hope that whether he earns the “C” or not, this move helps Patty.
I know he had a bad year in Ron Wilson’s last year because of all the trade speculation, but honestly, don’t you want your captain to play THROUGH that adversity? I’m hoping this move lights the fire again under Patty and makes him the game changer we know him to be.
Go Sharks!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
well, it's a good thing I just learned how to jumpstart a heart
because I needed it there. (for like a split second, in my head. I also did an extreme eye take in my head)
That said, this was coming, and most of us knew it.
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Since that stupid letter sewn on the players jersey puts so much pressure on that player...
Jody Shelley for Captain!
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Crikey
good thing this happened at the end of the day or this news would’ve ruined an entire day instead of just an evening.
I’ll wager $5 on Marleau picking it up again in training camp. Just to hedge my bets I’ll put another $5 on Boyle.
Oh well, I guess I’ll wear my #12 “C” jersey with that much more pride, now that it’s just a reminder of the glory days of Team Teal.
I think the C jersey should go to another...
…as I think Marleau can perform where we need him to perform without the added pressure that comes with the captain role. I love Patty, and think he should retire a Shark.
I’m not bothered by this news. Tho I would prefer it stay with Marleau, but enough people are being whiny little bitches, that who knows what will happen. (shrugs)
Really I just want hockey season to get here with no major damage done to our core team.
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by ang6666 on Aug 17, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions
Absolutely
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by Dave Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I personally did not think Marleau as the captain was the problem, because leaders will still be leaders, with or without the C’s and A’s.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Aug 17, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
So simply said but so right
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
I am glad to see some actual agreement with my opinion. Most people on the other Sharks sites I frequent are like: OMG MARLEAU IS TEH PROBLEM!!!!1111 THE CAPTAIN DOES NOT JUST TALK WITH REFS HE IS TEH ONLY LEADER LAWL!!!1111
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Aug 17, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Except, in more eloquent form. Its not HockeyBuzz, after all.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Aug 17, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Lurker Shark on Aug 17, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sigging that.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Aug 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
In a good way of course!
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Actually,
I was joking and I hate you.
-The dude responsible for this mess
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Of course. The internets r srs business.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Aug 17, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I R SRS FAN
DIS R SRS THREAD
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GRAAAHHH!
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
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by Lurker Shark on Aug 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't post the lolcat
I could have posted the lolcat
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Definitely agree here. As has been my MO this entire offseason, I’m not sure we (the fans) really have a good idea of what constitutes a “Captain” for any specific team. It’s an issue that lies solely within the organization and locker room.
This is the reason I’m not too beat up over this- let the team decide. Like you said, leaders will be leaders.
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Well this should make training camp a little more interesting this year at least.
As long as Patty stays in teal, I’ll be happy.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
C – Nichol
A – Staubitz
A – Shelley
If your assistants and captain are the ones that need to be talking to the refs then shouldnt your assistants and captain be the ones that end up talking to the refs the most for other reasons anyway?
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
bwahahaha
shouldn’t we add “box time Blake” in there as well then?
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Pavelski can be captain when whathisname is reffing…help me out here mymclife
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Cvik?
He’s just a linesman. Lords of Kobol protect us if he ever becomes a ref.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
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by Lurker Shark on Aug 17, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Although this is bad news for most...
I bet a good amount of our female readers (and maybe even some males) saw “Marleau stripped”, and got all hot and bothered.
That is, until they read the rest of the sentence.
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You know us so well...
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by Lurker Shark on Aug 17, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn you, you figured out my reasoning behind my choice of words!
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
yeah I know better from this site … there is no love for us
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
by ang6666 on Aug 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t forget the male constituency around here! Man crushes aren’t nuffin to jive at!
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shirtless joe
satisfies all
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Shirtless Joe
With the pink towel?
"..." - unknown
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by SetoThorMarChooSki on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Except for the children.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
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by Lurker Shark on Aug 18, 2009 5:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Speak for yourself, buddy.
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by Dave Valentine on Aug 18, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Purdy weighs in
Find it here. I actually didn’t know this was his article until part way through it when I finally looked at the by-line.
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to be clear
part way meant two sentences in. I knew it wasn’t Pollack and sensed danger in reading further
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you willingly read his stuff?? I worry for you … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
by ang6666 on Aug 17, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The international condemnation of waterboarding is nothing compared to the heat Purdy gets around here.
I love it.
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he's like
bizarrely out of touch with sharks fans and in touch with some weird angry rumor mongers
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, this article was halfway-decent. Still has the uber-annoying “our beloved Los Tiburones,” and this line pisses me off:
If you are stunned or surprised, you must be either a pure Marleau enthusiast who doesn’t believe in consequences, or a pure baseball fan who doesn’t believe in hockey.But he’s fairly level-headed in his assessment in who should get the captaincy, and advocates that this news means that its less likely for Marleau to be traded (which makes me happy).
Although, the part where he calls Marleau’s personality “climate controlled” was a bit too much, even though he tried to make up for it by calling him a “beyond-decent human being.” Also, the mention of Dany Heatley did not win him points.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
Oh, and because I forgot something
Purdy is an idiot.
Ahhh, much better.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
by mymclife on Aug 17, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i dunno
that whole part you quoted struck me as egotistical and angry. it’s not like it was a foregone conclusion. Most of us agree PM being Captain was not the difference between a Stanley Cup and a first round exit
by a10dency2ask on Aug 17, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hence, “this line pisses me off.” But when it comes to a Purdy article, I’d rather try and point out the few bright spots than get overwhelmed by the stupidity.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
I dislike Purdy greatly.
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Purdy calling Pollack a "hockey-guru"
makes me wonder why Purdy does all the Shark media stuff. He did an interview with KNBR and is on Chronicle Live talking about the Sharks all the time. And that interview he did… It was absolutely horrendous, so horrendous I actually used the word horrendous.
-The dude responsible for this mess
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IF anyone wants to get angry for no reason listen to this.
Keep in mind this is after game 1
-The dude responsible for this mess
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OKAY
I just listened to that… and now I’m angry…
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
I get the feeling that Pollak is more of the facts-driven, behind-the-scenes guy, while Purdy just wants to make a splash and stir up controversy. In other words, Pollak has journalistic objectivity, while Purdy is a newspaper’s version of an angry, opinionated, idiotic sports blogger.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
Good defintion.
Purdy also writes articles the easy way. By that I mean he writes about the popular opinion, even if it’s completely wrong because people will agree with him.
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Purdy is for the senseless masses who get riled up easily and don’t think about the bigger picture. Pollak is more for the educated fan who wants the facts with very little opinion so they can make up their own mind on the matter. Pollak’s style is harder to pull off, but it garners him a lot more respect not only from fans, but likely from NHL executives and players. Hence, his knowledge of the Scott Nichol signing 5 days before it happened.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
all part of a DW plot
to distract the fanbase while he does something with his other hand.
or maybe just to keep us occupied while he doesn’t do anything. Suits me fine, actually.
Go Sharks!
by DetroiterInNorCal on Aug 17, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions
There have been some high profile
young captains recently, Sidney Crosby and Jonathan Toews come to mind. I would imagine he would really have to step it up to beat out the likes of Boyle or even Thornton (who, even if he didn’t expressly covet the C, would be hard-pressed to deny it if it were offered).
by Chicago Shark on Aug 18, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
To say Patrick Marleau was a poor captain would be outrageous. He represented the franchise with the utmost respect and dignity, did countless good deads in the community, and performed at an elite level by franchise standards. He’s an excellent player and a good man. He’s just not captain of the Sharks anymore.
-Randy Hahn
Rest of Randy’s thoughts here.
-The dude responsible for this mess
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Sounds to me like Randy doesn’t think Marleau will be a Shark much longer, either.\
Just the tone of the article irked me, seemed more like a goodbye piece than a demotion piece.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
In general, it’s really hard to demote someone. You don’t see it happen all that often because usually the person leaves (either by their own choice or someone else’s).
I don’t think Marleau is going to be gone, but I guess it wouldn’t surprise me now.
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@#$% Juan Uribe. Dios es grande.
I still don’t know – the fact that they stripped Marleau of the C makes me think he’s safe, because why do that if by the mere act of trading him will remove him as captain as well? It just makes more sense that Marleau remains to be a Shark.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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i agree the article had an annoying tone
like really he didn’t show up to JR’s thing because he knew he wasn’t captain anymore? I guess Randy and Drew are in the Joe Thornton for captain club
by a10dency2ask on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Patty stays
We’re probably all jumping the gun (myself included).
All that’s been decided is Patty is not presumptive captain.
The Captaincy will be earned in Training Camp.
I rather think that this move implies Patty stays, because honestly, how do you trade a guy after you “strip him” of the Captaincy.
We’re all saying Patty has been demoted. All Todd said was “no one is our Captain right now” and “well decide in Training Camp.” None of this means Patty couldn’t be Captain on Opening Nights.
I think I still have hope that Patty takes this as motivation and has a season for the ages, leading us to the Cup.
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So this news just recently hit Puck Daddy
and I was kinda blindsided by all the Sharks hate on there. I know I’ve heard others on here talk about it, but it was coming from all corners, not just habs1rule. I try to avoid the Sharks news on there because it’s usually second or third hand by the time it gets to Yahoo!, and I’ve usually heard it already. I have a feeling most of it is probably the anonymity of the Internets, but yikes, there are some unsupervised youth out there in need of spankings and time-outs! I really hope the rest of the league doesn’t see the team in the same way that this small sample of fans does (I use that term loosely) or I have lost respect for the fanbases of many other teams.
I’ll just chalk it up to jealousy about our relative success since the lockout, but it makes me sad that people actually hate us and our players and think we’re idiots.
Here’s a hint – if you don’t want to be pissed off, don’t read comments anywhere that is part of a larger, well-known conglomerate; ESPN, Yahoo, etc. They tend to bring out the uneducated 12-year-old fan, and have little to no moderation.
As for the Sharks hate? Chalk it up to a successful expansion team in California of all places that has all sorts of players fans of other teams want but can’t have. That, and playoff failure is pretty easy to make fun of. Nevermind that most of the fans insulting the Sharks are fans of teams that have even less recent playoff success.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
Exactly
but it still stings. We’re all such nice people, and that kind of blatant hate still gets to me after years of online comment reading on everything from local news to hockey trade rumors.
by Chicago Shark on Aug 18, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
also, based on this article
whats’ the FTF temperature on the desire for Big Joe to be captain? I’m not in favor, but it seems like the media/outsider alternative to Boyle. What do we think?
by a10dency2ask on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I’d rather it be Pavelski than Jumbo Joe.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!
by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 18, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
not in favor
Boyle is the most likely to get it, imo, but I wouldn’t mind JoePa. I just think he’s a tad young for it, but he’d make a good cap’n, that’s for sure.
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Well, Joe Pa is the same age that Patty was when Patty got it.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Aug 18, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I’m just glad they aren’t assuming Dany Heatley will be given the C when he’s traded to the Sharks for Marleau, Cheechoo, Erhoff, Lukowich, Setogutchi, Vlasic, Pavelski and all the open real estate on Santa Clara St.
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If it were me
I’d hold off making a decision on captain until well into the season, maybe after the All-Star Break. See who really steps up to lead the team. I don’t know if you can get the same evaluation just coming out of training camp.
My reasoning is after Nolan was traded, the rotating captaincy system was in place for awhile, which eventually led to Patty getting the C. However, it always felt to me that the captaincy was foisted upon him, not so much that he earned it or even wanted it. He might have been the most logical choice at that point, since the other candidates were leaning towards the end of their careers (Damphousse, Ricci), so better to leave it with the budding star. And at the time it got results (deepest push in the playoffs that year), but Patty was never going to be the vocal and assertive captain that they may have expected him to become. And at this point, it’s not really what the Sharks need.
Now that this news has gotten out, seems like all the major media outlets have put on their speculation caps to interpret what this’ll mean for his future in San Jose. In the end, I hope he remains a Shark (between the 2, I’d sooner trade Nabby). I hope he continues to lead San Jose on the ice (best player last season), just without the expectations of the C.
Oh my Goc!!!
sounds good but, doesn’t there need to be a captain or assistants to talk to the refs?
by a10dency2ask on Aug 18, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i intentionally left that out
cuz at this point, there’s no alternates either. But isn’t the situation in Vancouver where Luongo is acknowledged as the C, but the A’s still take care of the ref duties? I don’t see why this can’t happen here. Heck, I bet they can probably rotate that role out there too if they really want to.
My point is, the next captain should really want the responsibility and take the reins. If I were to make an analogy, the next captain should probably be a general, someone who can rally the troops. Patty is just better suited to be a damn good soldier.
If you really want someone to just talk to the refs, just throw Thornton out there. He’s the most likely superstar benefit anyway.
Oh my Goc!!!
This is interesting
The more I talk to Joe Pavelski the more I think he needs to be the next Sharks captain. [link]
This is coming from a reporter at the US Olympic camp. IMO, this just reaffirms that Joe Pavelski is definitely a future captain of the Sharks. Also, it doesn’t hurt his chance at making Team USA.
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OH NO!
Joe Pavelski is a quiet guy!
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Definitely sounds like Pavs wants the C.
At least that’s what I get from this. Hat tip to Kukla.
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by Lurker Shark on Aug 18, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
That doesn’t sound like Pavs to me at all.
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that
changes my thoughts on his being too young. Maybe rotate around for a season, see how he and two others do?
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i agree there's a risk of him being too young
but personally, I think one of the problems with the team has been the eagerness to defer to veterans in tough situations. Maybe this would combat that
by a10dency2ask on Aug 18, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s a good point. I hadn’t looked at it like that before. You may be on to something there.
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Plus, Pavelski is the same age as Marleau when he became captain, so there is somewhat of a precedent set.
And on the topic of the article – Pavelski is definitely exuding that sort of captain-like quality, taking the blame as well as spreading it around. And just the way that he said things, like about how everyone wants the same thing, no matter how much time they have in the league, and about how you keep learning from the experiences in the league. I can see why Custance is in favor of him becoming captain; and with this interview, Pavs might have just become my leading candidate as well.
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