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I’m all for getting rid of Nabby. His prime has definitely gone by.

Remember during the regular season when people were saying “The Sharks have a problem, but it’s a good one though” because it was hard to fill out the roster? Yeah, this problem right now isn’t as fun…

If the Sharks, for some reason, made the trade I’d say to hell with it and make Greiss the starter.

This makes me want Heatley less and less.

but I wouldn’t be too surprised to see Heatley still on the Sens come October, while the Sharks found another dance partner.

Damn the media, buncha shit disturbers if you ask me. Except you guys, but you don’t count as media (I’m not sure what bloggers are).

Off all the options presented, I’d support shipping Nabokov. His regular season performance is one thing, but lets in too many inexplicable soft goals and consistently outdueled by opposition goaltenders in the playoffs. (Hiller, Turco, Kiprusoff)
Unless they can find a way to play 4 consecutive series against the Nashville Predators, I really don’t see Nabby leading the Sharks to the Cup.

I don’t want to hear anymore blameshifting when you lose a series, I want you to steal a couple of games. Sorry John, but your the odd man out in my eyes.

but I wouldn’t really have a problem with getting rid of Nabby, for the reasons mentioned above. Unfortunately the most logical solution here would be to trade Marleau, in terms of not sacrificing goaltending or overall depth. It would be trading a top liner for a top liner, so it makes the most sense. however it still doesn’t make sense and I’m highly against it. So there

I can solve any problem.

for me, it’s that, or no heatley at all. bring up the young guns, and pray that they work out.

couture? joslin? they need to be given a shot at some point. why not now?

The problem with the deal is that it HAS to include a 3rd team as the Sens don’t want half the guys SJ is purposing. The other issue is, even if Nabby and Marleau end up leaving and you get Heatley… you still have to do something with Erhoff, Mikahelik, and /or Cheech.

The Habs did some re-calibrating on the HUGE scale this offseason. They have enough new guys in town to begin their own Welcome Wagon Organization. If Marleau and Nabby were the ones to come to MtL, the likelihood is that Halak, Plekanec and Sergie Kostitsyn are moved. And Erhoff… where would he end up? MTL couldn’t take on both Nabby’s and Marleau’s money and not get rid of Hamrlik (5.6mill).

So you have 3 teams with some big big moves necessary to move the ONE guys that wants to go.

If Boston, and Not Montreal are the 3rd team in this cluster….. I don’t have any idea (outside of Phil Kessel) who would be involved.

I say, as a Habs fan, leave well enough alone. Why would we help out a team in our division by becoming a part of this sham? It’s beyond me.

I know I need a rest.

What about “I don’t have a different solution, but I don’t like the two options you presented” button?

Since the death of Warren Strelow, Nabokov has not been the same goaltender. Physically, I think he can endure the 60 start workload. Mentally, not so much.

I still believe that had Nabby been the starter in ’06, the Sharks find a way to beat the Oilers. At that point, Nabby still had the mental toughness to carry this team. Even in ’08, Nabby was one of our better players. But last year was not very good.

Patrick Roy and Marty Brodeur are probably the last superstar netminders to win a cup. The rest of the teams that have won the cup have done so with solid D and TIMELY goaltending (which includes stealing a shot or two). The salary cap makes it tough for the Vancouvers of the world to compete with so much of their cap tied up in goal. It takes away from who you can put IN FRONT of your goal.

Somewhere out there, someone has to be interested in a 60 start goaltender who has both playoff and international experience, and could send us a servicable option. I’d say a team LIKE the Kings would be interested (we’re obviously not going to send Nabby to the Kings, they won’t have room what with signing Malkin and all).

If we got back a slight downgrade in goal and some third line pieces, I think that turns out as a win.

but I love Marleau more. But I don’t think he’s past his prime in any way. 20 shutouts in 3 years is good in my book. 40 wins almost every year.

If acquiring Heatly presents the Sharks with this many cap issues, I’m still not sure such a trade would be logical. Maybe we’re practicing for next seasons craptactular cap adventures?

If it comes down to having to move one of Nabby or Marleau, I’d have to hope that we move Nabby. As has been stated around these parts already, Nabby hasn’t really looked quite the same over the last year or so. He has been solid, but definately not a goalie who can steal wins for your team. The Sharks have a pretty good defensive team, and I think that’s helped inflate his (and Boucher’s) numbers quite a bit…especially last season.

Continuing on the thread of this being a good defensive team, I think the Sharks can more afford to take a downgrade in goal for salary relief. Yes, goalies are important, but not as important as overall team defense and scoring (see Penguins, Pittsburgh).

So, in short, if one of the two has to go, ship off Nabby and keep Marleau. I still don’t think Heatley will be here any time soon, though.

But when the Sharks were rolling in the beginning of last season, they managed to pump out a lot of wins, but still gave up a lot of goals against.
That reflects on both the D AND Nabokov, but I remember thinking that it was cause for concern. You can only win so many 6-5 games.

I think this whole thing is a cluster of grand proportions. The dude should get his act together and stay in the great white north. I’m not one to think SJ should go out on a limb for D.H.. The team, in my opinion, has not reached a low where they should be putting players on the trading block to take a gamble for one player. Now, I suppose we look at a certain player that left Pittsburgh to play at Detroit and well, we know happened there. Although at this point I would love to see the Sharks get to the Finals, but seeing them lose to Montreal would send me to the looney bin. Could it be possible? Marleau in Red and White carrying the cup would cause a large disruption in The Force for me.

But I wonder if a Michalek, Ehrhoff and 1st rounder would get it done – reports say the two teams can’t agree, but I’ve heard so many reports that I don’t know.

I know there’s still other cap issues to deal with, but Cheech still has a market with other teams (Minnesota, NYI, Buffalo). I think the bigger headache is how to get someone take eat Luko’s contract.

How bad is that Huskins signing hurting now? They don’t got a cream for that one!

Don’t trade for Heatley, keep Nabokov and Marleau. See how easy that is! And this way, we’ll only need to trade Cheechoo and a defenseman, and we’re good. Both Tampa Bay and the Islanders are looking for a top six forward (Cheechoo), and Columbus has an interest in an offensive defenseman (Ehrhoff). Trade them for some picks/prospects/cheap forwards, and BAM! Cap issues solved.

has apparently been offered a contract by Montreal. I think that means Halak to somewhere is a given.

Why isn’t trading Joe Thornton discussed more? He would free up the most cap space, he’d bring back the greatest return, and IMO he’s a bigger disappointment than Marleau in the playoffs. Thornton lights it up in the regular season, no doubt, but he generally plays a perimeter game despite his size. He isn’t able to generate offense from the outside in the playoffs like he does in the regular season, and while he is affective when he uses his size to drive the net, he rarely does that in the post-season. Yeah, trading Thornton probably kills Heatley’s interest in SJS, but really is the entire league supposed to bend over for this d-bag? There is still plenty of talent to play with up front on SJS and Thornton may very well fetch a guy that could be a long term top 6 C (the return will be based around high picks/prospects because it’s a cap dump). Forgive me if I missed a discussion of this possibility elsewhere but I’m interested in Sharks fans opinions on moving Joe.

Don’t buy the playoff choker bs – Thornton is a playmaker and not a sniper. The problem is that the team gets to the playoffs and everyone just watches and waits for Joe to do everything. Joe is guilty of trying to do too much which ultimately leads him to being double teamed and removed as a threat. Does he always show up 100%? No, he has some growing still to do, but when you make your living playmaking and dominating along the boards it’s hard to constantly be the game-changer. I think the onus is as much on his wingers to help allow him to be the player he in the regular season. If they’re gonna double team him and not give him space, then his wingers need to help create space instead of standing around, waiting for the home run pass.

This offseason has to end like right now. You guys are losing it.

is some selfishness. A little ‘give me the puck cause I’m gonna drive the net, I may not make it, but it’s better then passing around the perimeter, waiting for the perfect pass, then watching the play peter out.’

8:10 Heatley deal to San Jose getting close
8:20 Heatley deal to San Jose falling apart?

I like how they use HockeyBuzz as a source.

Autopsy results for Billy Mays

I read on the Sharks boards someone pointed out this , which illustrates his team-best (by a good margin -disregard semenov) 1st assist on the powerplay totals (ASST1/60)

According to Eklund, talks have broken down and the Sharks shifted their focus to Phil Kessel. I know this is eklund, and not very reliable, but I wouldn’t mind Kessel. Thoughts?

PTBNL TO SAN JOSE e5!

This guy is a career prima donna. I think Rob Blake said it best at the end of last season…“Keep the same lineups and let us do it again. We won’t make the same mistakes twice. Now that we have experienced this together, we are going to make that final push towards the cup”.

I say keep it the same chemistry, one more playoff push before shaking up the team. Marleau is our captain and he’s a good captain. Don’t trade him.