Observations From Teal & White 2009

by FTF Staff on Sep 17, 2009 7:08 AM PDT in Coaching From The Couch Comment 120 comments

Writing in the third person is always a bear when it comes to this whole "FTF Staff" business, so let's just cut the chatter and get to Plank and TCY's observations.

For those unaware of how Teal & White is set up, it's basically two 30 minute halves with a running clock. Both sides receive a seven minute power play session during the 60 minute session(teal in the first half, white in the second). Shifts take place as they would normally and everything else remains the same- basically a high profile scrimmage.
The team hopefuls saw a good amount of shifts, and that's going to be the general focus here- no need to drone on and on about guys everyone has seen over the last couple years.
Thomas Greiss didn't have a very good night. He only let in one goal (about a minute into the game), but was definitely fighting the puck on the majority of shots he faced. Not a whole lot of post to post quickness, and wasn't doing himself any favors with his stickwork either. Came out and misplayed a puck near the circles maybe 15 or so minutes in that nearly ended up in the back of the net, and was never able to help the breakout. Didn't like much of anything from him.
Tyson Sexsmith on the other hand had a very good night. Played all sixty minutes for the white squad, and seemed very comfortable back there. Utilized the pokecheck effectively and was very explosive when moving post to post. Butterfly city, which was a strange (and pleasantly surprising) site to see in net for San Jose. Another plus was his passing, he was deft with the puck and moved it up ice well.
Obviously goaltending is a fickle thing, and it's entirely possible Greiss was just simply off last night. Let's not rush to hasty conclusions here- it's only one scrimmage game. However, if the respective performances at T&W were a good indication of what to expect, it wouldn't be surprising to see Sexsmith (contingent upon him playing well in Worcester to start the year) get called up during the season for some starts, with Wilson utilizing their two-way contracts to make it work. He seems like the better netminder at this juncture.

The buzz surrounding Nick Petrecki is well-deserved, and he looks to be making a strong case for a starting role in San Jose. Picked his spots well when jumping into the play, and put one home top corner from the circles off a flubbed point shot by Pavelski. Very good positionally. Didn't see too much physicality from him, which is expected during an intersquad, but he obviously has no issues laying on the body. Really impressed.

The other young defensemen weren't as active, they were all pretty much silent on the night. Loprieno made some poor reads, Demers was basically invisible, and although Moore had some nice hits, they were dirtier than anything else (i.e. hit for the sake of hitting). Joslin was quiet, but he looked the most comfortable out there. That's pretty much been his MO. Last night was like last season, he didn't draw attention good or bad. He just played solid fundamental hockey.

The difference between Petrecki and Joslin is interesting, because it's pretty much the opposite of what we've been fed as they came up through the system. Petrecki was billed as a stay at home guy while Joslin was a powerplay QB who had a nice shot. Although Joslin got some good shots in on Statlock and Greiss, it was Petrecki who impressed with his offensive ability. He was out there for big minutes on the power play (which is to be expected when it's 7 minutes long), but he usually went out with the Marleau - Pavelski - Clowe line. He was moving around, distributing the puck well, and calling for shots from the point. Really mature for his age, even though he had trouble keeping the puck in the zone on occasion. Joslin impressed with his defensive acumen, which was much better than what we saw in the Calder Cup Playoffs, where he played horrible D. I think either one is a safe pick for the sixth D spot (Petrecki is our pick at this point), and the other should get playing time in the AHL as opposed to being scratched.

When his team went on the power play, Clowe was camped on the sideboards just like the end of last year. Pavelski was in front. Not sure what the coaching staff is thinking here. Hopefully he migrates to the more tumultuous waters in front of the net before visions of 07-08 Joe Thornton begin to crop up again.

Kent Huskins likes to jump into the play as we have mentioned before, and it's still uncertain how he and Boyle will fare (if that ends up being the pairing) considering they both seem to be cut from the same cloth. It may take them awhile to get acclimated together in order to reduce the amount of risks taken in the offensive zone.

Came in skeptical of Dandenault, didn't leave with anything that would cause a change of mind. Had some trouble with mobility on the blueline and finding shooting lanes, a definite no-no for a guy known for his offensive capabilities. Safe money is on him being released, unless they want to give one of Joslin/Petrecki playing time in Worcester. Then he's your likely scratch.

Frazer McLaren loved heading to the net, and got called for goaltender interference. Bogus call really, Greiss pushed out beyond his crease and initiated contact. Anyways, he was a noticeable presence for the majority of the night and could be shaping up to be an injury call up or even find his way onto the roster. Sported a whopper of black eye too. We'd like to give some props to mymclife here- she thought he would be a good fit all the way back in late April.

Best shift of the night came from McGinn, Couture, and Staubitz. They cycled the puck well and generated multiple scoring chances in the minute or so they spent in the attacking zone. Liked all three of those guys last night, especially McGinn. Looks like he'll have a solid year.

Focusing on Couture, he looks pretty solid out there. Had some skating issues (Yeah, we know it's been rehashed over and over, but he did have some problems changing direction to defend in the neutral zone), but impressed with his vision and passing. We were discussing that we'd be comfortable with him on the third line and chipping in some PK time. He picked pockets all night, and was solid behind the net. Although he didn't register a point (which will likely bring out the "Couture is a bust" birds again), he had one of the better games. Now that Malhotra is on the team, it's less likely that Couture will get a full time gig, even though he may deserve it. All in all, it's good that he will get some time to hone his skills in the AHL, but he looks like he's getting closer to a full time NHL gig.

At the end of the game Brian Boitano made an appearance for the shootout. Fans picked the players who would go, and while the wish of your humble authors to give Douglas Murray a chance never materialized, Jody Shelley got the nod and roofed one in the process. Rocket Richard potential right there.

The Event Staff handed out posters when you entered The Tank, and the joke around our section was that they photoshopped Marleau in at the last minute. There's two players in every corner except for his, with Patty sandwiched between Setoguchi and Blake.

Feel free to chime in with your own thoughts in the comments, and be sure to read idunno's Fanpost for more information.

Go Sharks.

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Oh and the guy who won the halftime PS3 NHL 2010 shootout will be signing autographs all day friday.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 7:24 AM PDT reply actions

Forced into it by the PR department- he’s a pretty humble guy in front of a crowd.

Total egomaniac behind a headset though.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Also #55 Moore had kind of a dirty hit on McGinn(I think?) followed shortly by his pushing Marleau into the net to knock it off its moorings. I didn’t like that a whole lot.

Somebody came out and gave it to him pretty good in return though. (Staubitz maybe?)

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions

Clowe took a run at him, for sure.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions

Yeah Clowe took off from between the circles and lined him up pretty good behind the net.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions

My favorite part of the night...

After Sexy allowed the goal to Petrecki with a minute to go in the game (ending Sexy’s shutout bid in which he faced about 15 mins of PP time), Joe Thornton skated alone to congratulate Sexsmith on a job well done.

That’s got to mean alot to a young goalie, and I liked that sniff of “leadership” from Jumbo.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 7:54 AM PDT reply actions

Kent Huskins likes to jump into the play as we have mentioned before…

Kent Huskins is unbelievably retarded about when he jumps into the play.

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by RudyKelly on Sep 17, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions

Seriously. I haven’t watched as much Huskins as you all have, but I do know that he’s not even in Boyle’s league when it comes to being an offensive defenseman. If one of those guys has to play a little more conservative, it’s not a tough call.

A man must have a code.

by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 17, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions

If one of those guys has to play a little more conservative, it’s not a tough call.

Definitely agree- that bullet point in the story was born from a point I’ve made during the offseason about the effectiveness of a Boyle-Huskins pairing in the upcoming regular season. They both like to do the same things on the rush and in the offensive zone, and since Boyle is rather middling in the defensive end of the ice, I’m a little wary to have them paired together at even strength.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 18, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions

My $.02

Petrecki is going to be good! I though McCarthy stood out, kid was all hustle.
I know people think Shelley is useless, but I really liked the Shelley, Hinote, Nichol line. Nichol is crazy tiny but he was great in the circle and is FAST. He and Hinote played well together and frankly, they’ll need Shelley out there for when they piss people off.

I thought the best d-man out there last night was Murray, I think he’s gonna be great this year.

Sexsmith looked great – have very high hopes for him. Plus, his goalie mask is awesome.

by milanahalek on Sep 17, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions

It's funny actually...

With the addition of Malhotra, our bottom two lines went from OMG SMALL to pretty decent rather quickly. I don’t know when/if Mitchell is coming back (playing the wing now, with Malhotra here), but the bottom two could shake out like this…

McGinn – Malhotra – McLaren (maybe a little high on the third, but like we said, he’s got that nose for the net)
Shelley/Staubitz – Nichol – Hinote

And also, I think Petrecki has to make this team, he looked great.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions

McGinn – Malhotra – Mitchell (Vesce sub)
McLaren – Nichol – Hinote (Shelley reserve)

Those look like 2 pretty solid checking lines to me, very good on faceoffs. McGinn and Mitchell have some wheels. Nichol might even be a better fit with McGinn and Mitchell than on the 4th line. Throw 3 speed burners on the same line.

by pj48 on Sep 17, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions

We’d like to give some props to mymclife here- she thought he would be a good fit all the way back in late April.

Thank you, thank you.

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by mymclife on Sep 17, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions

No problem lady- credit where credit is due.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Really, all I saw was that he was put on Worcester’s PP because he liked standing in front of the net, and from that I decided he was awesome and might make the team this season. Also? Great name.

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by mymclife on Sep 17, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Bummed he isn’t wearing a yellow visor though*. That would have really sealed the deal.

*In other news, I have officially run that joke into the ground.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Manny Malhotra?

How did I not know until today that he came to camp? I clearly fail at life and the internets.

Has anyone crunched cap numbers on a potential signing for him? Did he come with a contract?

On the one hand, I really like the signing. If memory serves, the buzz on him always was that he was a 3rd line center forced to play 1st line minutes because Columbus just didn’t have the depth. On the other hand, I have an eeensy teeensy concern that he might want more money since he’s played 1st line, and since Heatley came to town, I’ve lost track of where we are cap-wise. I think we’re under, since the salary exchange for Heatley was close to even, and we grossed $4M from the Vancouver trade, but who all still needs to be signed?

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by ElvisVF101 on Sep 17, 2009 8:39 AM PDT reply actions

You aren't behind

Malhotra is fresh news. The first word about it was posted last night. Don’t beat yourself up.

Also if anyone finds more definitive Heatley arrival news link up please.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions

Malhotra is fresh news. The first word about it was posted last night. Don’t beat yourself up.

You make it sound like he was about to jump off a bridge or something haha.

As for Malhotra, like TCY said, it’s going to be a tight fit. I’ve been running the numbers at CapGeek (go to CapCalc, it lets you compose your own rosters- too much fun really) and it seems like he either signs for the minimum, Mitchell is placed on LTIR, or the team rolls without a healthy scratch in the forward or defenseman department. Can’t see any other way Wilson manages to get under.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions

You make it sound like he was about to jump off a bridge or something haha.

And you make it seem like suicide is a joke.

Which one of us is more at fault here?

Asshole.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions

sarcastic face

which is the same as a serious face I guess.

Either way you get the point. I concede that suicide is in fact a joke.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions

still sarcasm

that was a joke too. I’m really worried someone will be offended by this.

I mean if taken the wrong way that line of jokes could lead someone to kill themselves.

That was a joke too.

Got a shovel?

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions

We’re going to have to put you through message board boot camp again. Email Matt Taylor (two t’s) and he’ll get you all squared away.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions

hahaha

Did you intentionally type

two t’s

Cuz me and “Matt.Taylor” have actually been google chatting all day after yesterday’s accidental discussion starter. He ordered me some nice shit on amazon.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions

That was a joke too. Referencing past discussion. This is really getting out of hand haha.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions

It is getting out of hand. I’m gonna step up and be the bigger man by saying it just ends here.

So this is the last word.

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions

No, word was the last word. Not “this”.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Correction.

So this is the last word. This.

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions

No

This is. This.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Hahaha that dick owes me $$$$!

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Here's a shovel!

Although you seem to be doing fine on your own.

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I concede that suicide is in fact a joke.

Asshole.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Asshole.

Is that quote mine or yours? No one can tell because you weren’t being very original.

Burn.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions

That was the joke- referencing past conversation. You should know these things.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions

what boggles the mind

is that I’m pretty sure at least 2/3rds of you could be having this conversation in person.

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by CTGray on Sep 17, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree with you there … and I’m wondering why I’m reading this … :)

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by ang6666 on Sep 17, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

You’re reading this bec…. dear God, look at your profile picture! What is that monstrosity?

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 18, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I got bored of my picture … and didn’t want to go with the usual shark logo … so inverted the colors … don’t care for it myself, but until I find something I like, it stays … :)

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by ang6666 on Sep 18, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

It happened last night, so no worries...

We’re scraping up close to the cap here, so Malhotra will probably have to sign for close to the minimum for this to work. However, the fact that he took a camp invite with only a few weeks to go in the preseason probably means there weren’t a ton of options out there.

Malhotra is a killer on the 3rd line, and he’s a solid PK’er, which we need. I think he’s been haunted by the expectations that come from being the 7th overall pick, but he’s definitely welcome.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions

always liked his work ethic and adding some more vetern leadership is always a plus.

by syc on Sep 17, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions

I’m sure his invite will cue the jokes from the rest of the league about another underachiever in teal.

But yeah, if he can be had for an affordable price-tag, I think having him at our disposal on the PK is what this team needs. Again going back to the days when the third and fourth lines basically provided our 2 pairs for PK and chipped in a few goals. The idea of (when healthy) going something like Malhotra/Mitchell and Hinote/Nichol as our 2 PK pairings is very nice. Gets Marleau and Pavelski out fresh, and not throwing their body in front of pucks.

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by ElvisVF101 on Sep 17, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions

ME TOO

I’ve been reading FTF religiously and I missed this.

I just watched the episode of “Day in the Life” on NHL Net with him. He seems like a great guy!

by BringBackNolan on Sep 17, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I wasn;t there but...

My father and 9 year old brother went. My pops said that Couture looked pretty good out there and that he should be fighting for a roster spot.

On a side note, My 9 year old brother was in a wheelchair because he broke his leg last week. The Sharks staff was really great to him, bringing him to the front of the line for autographs before the game and all 25 players that were signing signed his cast! Everyone kept coming up to him and telling him they were jealous Joe Thornton signed his cast. They also sat him against the glass in the wheelchair area (I believe its section 107). Anyway, just wanted to give props to the Sharks staff for making a 9 year old feel on top of the world.

GO SHARKS!

by SD_Sharks_Fan on Sep 17, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions

Class...

Pure class…

by Pizzle on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions

I think we'd all like to see Couture and Petrecki make the team

So we can finally see them after the years of hype. I also love the new(?) idea of bringing in excited young players to push the team forward. However I would only want this to happen if it was a Vlasic-type situation, and not a scenario where neither of these players got a lot of time or opportunity to continue their development

by a10dency2ask on Sep 17, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions

What ever happened with Ortmeyer?

Is he still competing for a spot? Seems like he’s a non-factor compared to our own homegrown talent.

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Sep 17, 2009 10:42 AM PDT reply actions

Ortmeyer is still listed on the Sharks training camp roster.

He is not listed as one of the 13 cuts yesterday.

So I think he’s still in camp.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions

He was out there last night, but I didn’t notice him all too much. Potentially a healthy scratch I guess, but I’m not expecting all too much out of him if last night was a good indication of where he fits into the team.

It’s possible he makes the roster so some of the younger guys can get playing time in Woostah though, so don’t rule him out quite yet.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 17, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions

I have been trying to watch him, without much success.

by pj48 on Sep 17, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions

At the end of the game Brian Boitano made an appearance for the shootout. Fans picked the players who would go, and while the wish of your humble authors to give Douglas Murray a chance never materialized, Jody Shelley got the nod and roofed one in the process. Rocket Richard potential right there.

You laugh, but in my NHL 09 franchise, Shelley DID wint he Rocket Richard award. I thought it would be funny, so I threw him on Thornton’s line. Dude’s a sniper, lol!

I didn’t get to go to Teal and White, but from everything I’ve been reading, I’m really excited about Petrecki coming in on defense. Its always good to see the young guys coming up and making us better. I’m excited to see what him, and all the other new additions do on Friday night, when I finally get to go to a game.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 17, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions

Next time you beat it...

Play Murray-Joe-Seto and see if you can get Doug the RR!!!

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Next time you beat it…

I’m repaying your gift of a shovel with some good old fashioned funny-when-out-of-context quote.

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Hahahhahahaha

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Well played!

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions

This news

Is making me all too excited for Saturday night… Can’t friggin wait!

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by SetoThorMarChooSki on Sep 17, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions

Who is FTF staff, who writes this stuff? Dandy is not known as an offensive defenseman. He is known as a steady defensive player who has great speed and moves the puck out of his end. He is also extremely durable. His versatility is he can play both fwd and D making him very attractive. He is also an excellent penalty killer as his speed gets him deep into the other teams zone and he can recover. With 80 plus playoff games of experience he can help in what hopes to be a long playoff run, does anyone remember last year. Speed, experience, versatility, sounds good to me.

by Hockey 2511 on Sep 17, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions

Who is FTF staff, who writes this stuff?

Yes … seriously … who writes this stuff! We demand to know!

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by ang6666 on Sep 17, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Rumor has it these articles are outsourced overseas.

Also, and I mean no disrespect, it’s in the first sentence of the piece.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 18, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions

Then someone needs to fire the readers for missing that vital piece of info!

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by ang6666 on Sep 18, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions

First off, Welcome!

I hope you have enjoyed your first week here.

It seems you are quite fond of “Dandy” as 75% of your posts so far are singing his praises.

Dandenault is a pretty established name in the NHL, as evidenced by the statistics rattled off in your posts. He has acheived a lot.

However, as you so eloquently put it in your post entitled “Dandy the Good”,

all he needs to do now is make the team.

And make the team he must, for it doesn’t seem like he has too many teams fighting over him.

he will sign in the 950-1.1 range and he deserves every penny

He deserves every penny of what he gets, as does any other NHL player, but I can’t see him getting that much. That’s more than double the minimum salary, and the Sharks don’t exactly have cap room to be throwing around.

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

haha do I have the authority to welcome?

no I absolutely do not.

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions

of course you do .. :)

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by ang6666 on Sep 17, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions

He deserves every penny of what he gets, as does any other NHL player

False.

A man must have a code.

by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 17, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions

I meant false as in the “as does any other NHL player,” not Dandy specifically.

A man must have a code.

by Fehr and Balanced on Sep 17, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Meh, if they’ve managed to talk Glen Sather into writing them a fat contract I think they deserve it.

by Evilducks on Sep 17, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Meh, if they’ve managed to talk Glen Sather into writing them a fat contract I think they deserve it.

Not exactly a noteworthy accomplishment.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 18, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions

does anyone remember last year

nope. what happened last year? I’m a little fuzzy on it.

by a10dency2ask on Sep 17, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions

I was drunk for most of it. So fill me in.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

I’d help you out but I can’t remember!

by a10dency2ask on Sep 17, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Really??

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by SetoThorMarChooSki on Sep 17, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Selective memory

what would we do without it?

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Not sure

Probably be Red Wings fans….

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by SetoThorMarChooSki on Sep 17, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Dude

that hurt.

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions

?

I was meaning to bag on Detroit fans… lol.. Did I misinterpret your post?

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by SetoThorMarChooSki on Sep 17, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe I misinterpreted yours

I took yours to mean that if we didn’t have selective memory we’d be Det fans because they’ve had more success than we have, and are an easy bandwagon pick in the West.

/Goes back to the joys of selective memory/

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions

I interpreted it as Detroit fans completely forgetting about the Dead Things era, and instead say that they’ve always been this dominant.

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by mymclife on Sep 17, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Well crap

I didn’t think my selective memory could work AGAINST me! I have been gone too long, I’m all FTF-rusty. Or maybe just a year dumber.

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Bingo!!

Thanks for the clarification… I guess I should have specified yeah?

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by SetoThorMarChooSki on Sep 17, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Can I laugh?

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

To qualify… if “Dandy” is as good as you say he is, why…

1. Why did he play only 41 games for the defensively starved Canadiens?
2. Why has no other team given him a look?
3. Why did the Sharks merely invite him to camp, instead of signing him to a contract?

Dandy might have been good a few years ago, but he’s 33 and on the downswing of his career. I’m sorry dude, he looked bad last night, and has in every scrimmage I have caught. You make him sound like Scott Niedermayer on crack… and while he could probably get an NHL job, he’s not cracking this roster, unless he’s scratched at the veteran minimum.

If you’re asking me if I remember last year, well he sure helped the Canadiens on a deep playoff run, didn’t he?

If you’re talking about durability, he hasn’t played more than 70 games in any of the last three years.

And lastly, if he’s the elite penalty killer you say he is, why did Montreal only skate him on the kill for 1.26 minutes in the games he played? That’s less than Komisarek, Markov, Gorges, Hamrlik, Boullion and O’Byrne?

Can I stop?

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Can I stop?

You already did. Also, there is no spoon.

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by stufflife on Sep 17, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Haven’t stopped yet, still researching in case he replies… (j.k.)

by FTF Staff on Sep 17, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Oops, accidental account switch.

by FTF Staff on Sep 17, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs

ZOMG FTF STAFF HAS A POST COUNT NOW!!

I will forever remember this day.

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by mymclife on Sep 17, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions

NOS! IZ CANT DELETE!

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Is that the ultimate reply fail?

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions

I think it would have to not only be an account switch, but also replying to the wrong post. This is just a super reply fail.

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by mymclife on Sep 17, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh, I replied to you on purpose.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions

I mean replying with the wrong account is a super reply fail. Replying to the wrong post with the wrong account is an ultimate reply fail.

There are different levels, see.

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by mymclife on Sep 17, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions

OOOOOH. Gocha.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions

It’s actually spelled “gotcha.” :-D

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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Sep 17, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions

I can say it however I want.

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by TCY on Sep 18, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions

Goc'a

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by stufflife on Sep 18, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Also, rec’d to commemorate the historic moment. :) And here I thought I was having a bad day at work.

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I was gonna say!

THE SECRET IS REVEALED!!!

So much for

Who is FTF staff, who writes this stuff?

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions

HAHA

-The dude responsible for this mess

by idunno723 on Sep 17, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Obviously you did not watch any Canadiens games last year.

41 games, he broke his arm, finished his shift though and missed a bunch of games as in 7 weeks, his injury ended while Carbo was fighting for his job so he missed another week because Dr Carbo thought his shot was off. He plays PP when he plays as a forward and simply he was awesome. How about Ribiero and Ryder players that Mtl sat in favor of favorites as in Patrice Brisebois. Ryder and Ribiero are flourishing. In 4 seasons as a Habs the fans never dogged him and that is very rare. Durability, he had had 4 injuries in his career, 870 reg season games in 70 a year. Show me how many 33 yr olds have 955 games played including playoff. He is versatile depth player who can step into the heat if needed.

Why has no team given him a look, they did, he turned down a firm offer as he hoped to stay in Mtl and Bob told him he had a chance to return but it didn’t work out. He wants to play for a top team and I’m sure he feels he can make the team. Do you not think Doug Wilson talked to his brother Murray who does the Habs radio. Did you know he played his minor hockey with Dan Boyle? He is most like likely one of the fastest skaters in camp. The Sharks have the luxury of needing only one proven NHL D contact so I would do the same as Wilson and have a look.
why didn’t Wilson simply sign someone else? The veteran player as a category is not doing well in free agency due the CBA, most guys are signing for less and for one year, no shame in that. He is a solid 5-6 D man who can play wing, there are more than a handful of players in this league of 700 players who can do it. He offers experience, proven playoff performance and is very solid citizen. This is a team that could not get out of round 1.

Mtl did not sign one of it’s UFA’s including Komisarek, Koivu and Kovalev.

I don’t evaluate players in inter squad games but I guess you do.

by Hockey 2511 on Sep 17, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I don’t evaluate players in inter squad games but I guess you do.

I think you made up your mind on “Dandy” a long time ago.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

I was responding to the original post in the byline above. My posts are lucid and realistic, hey an opinion is only that but mine is as valuable as anyone else’s. I’ll tell you what, let’s agree to let the coaching staff decide. It is possible that they may know more than us although it’s hard to imagine.

by Hockey 2511 on Sep 17, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

I totally agree with you, but so is our opinion of Dandy. I think it’s the

Who is FTF staff, who writes this stuff?

part that made us think that you don’t think OUR opinion is valid.

I don’t evaluate players in inter squad games but I guess you do.

Well, that’s exactly what the coaches are doing, since they have to decide if Dandenault is going to be part of this team or not. I didn’t like what I saw, that’s my opinion.

I wish him the best whether he is on the team or not.

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by TCY on Sep 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

It was the “safe money” comments below that precipitated my comments after an inter squad game, like I said, let let him at least play in some exhibition games and learn the tendencies of his D partner.

“Came in skeptical of Dandenault, didn’t leave with anything that would cause a change of mind. Had some trouble with mobility on the blueline and finding shooting lanes, a definite no-no for a guy known for his offensive capabilities. Safe money is on him being released, unless they want to give one of Joslin/Petrecki playing time in Worcester. Then he’s your likely scratch.”

by Hockey 2511 on Sep 17, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions

It sounds like you are a Canadiens fan, and I know that he has a big following amongst that fanbase. Kudos to you for fighting for a player you are a fan of.

I don’t think he’s a good fit on this roster, but if he is as good as you say he is, maybe he makes the team. Maybe he signs with someone else when the league-wide injury bug hits in November/December. Maybe he goes overseas.

I didn’t like what I saw last year when watching Habs games, and I didn’t like what I saw last night. We both have our opinions, and thanks for sharing yours.

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by Mr. Plank on Sep 18, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions

i dunno much about the guy at all but I welcome more D to the team cuz it seems a bit thin at the moment

by a10dency2ask on Sep 17, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Thank you kind sir, I agree only 5 NHL d contracts at this time, not enough for a deep playoff run, can you say injury?

by Hockey 2511 on Sep 17, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions

I’d like to see someone like Petrecki do well, but at the same time if Dandy is as good as you say, sounds like it could be a potential benefit. Either way I’m sure the staff sees something in him. we’ll see what happens

by a10dency2ask on Sep 17, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I can say injury.

I say it like:

41 games, he broke his arm

Although I have to admit, that’s not how I say “Durability”.

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Spend some time around game will you, broken bones heal unlike, back, knee, groin, shoulder, head and other soft tissue maladies, your lack of understanding the subtleties of the game are coming through loud and clear. Like I said earlier, 950 NHL games played at age 33 is exceptional, that underscores a durable career. Dan Boyle born in the same year has 650 NHL games played so feel feel to rip this thread, all I’m stating here are facts not stabs.

by Hockey 2511 on Sep 18, 2009 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions

your lack of understanding the subtleties of the game are coming through loud and clear.

and…

all I’m stating here are facts not stabs.

Hmmm…. yeah.

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by TCY on Sep 18, 2009 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions

may I fix this?

Dan Boyle, a classic late bloomer who played 4 years in college and was an undrafted free agent born in the same year has 650 NHL games played, but will likely pass Dandenault in games played sometime in 2014.

Hey—I hope the guy makes the team, plays well enough to earn top 6 minutes, and leads us deep into the playoffs. Hell, give him an “A” while you’re at it. But at some point “experienced and durable” leads to “high mileage and on the downside.” I haven’t seen enough of him to know which is closer to the truth, but I figure it’ll be obvious in a few days if he’s a good fit.

by bison on Sep 18, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions

The durability thing is what gets me, because it doesn’t matter what type of injury you get. If you are out for significant points of time with injury, by definition, you are not durable. Doesn’t matter if the injury heals, or if it’s a broken bone or whatever… it’s about time spent injured or not.

That being said, I really do hope that he plays well enough to make the team. HOWEVER, I’m not for giving him the job just because he’s been in the league for a long time yadda yadda.

McLellan and Wilson will make this decision. Not us. I’m interested in seeing what he thinks. Great comment, bison.

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by TCY on Sep 18, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions

That’s less than Komisarek, Markov, Gorges, Hamrlik, Boullion and O’Byrne?

That bolded part says the most to me. lol, O’Byrne.

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by mymclife on Sep 17, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions

LOL. Feel so bad for that guy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afEB1mK_B6Q&feature=fvw

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Sep 17, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Well put. (and researched)

I shouldn't have said anything.

by perkins.kit on Sep 17, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions

You can laugh...

but between the suicide jokes and bringing Mr. Dandy’s, um, dandy down to earth, someone’s going to get hurt.

Then again, laughter is the best medicine…

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

I think we all are just a little jumpy (no pun intended, kinda) for the season to start. Seriously, we need something to talk about, right? Besides all the new people and returners that haven’t been around all summer.

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by stufflife on Sep 17, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Sharks reduce roster by 3

SHARKS REDUCE ROSTER BY THREE
Executive Vice President and General Manager Doug Wilson announced today that the club has trimmed three players from the team’s 2009-10 training camp roster.

Right wing Dan DaSilva, center Dean Strong and left wing T.J. Trevelyn have been re-assigned to San Jose’s American Hockey League affiliate, the Worcester Sharks.

In need of a signature... please advise.

by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Sep 17, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions

So, to give us something to talk about...

Is the game tonight on CSN? Online? Anything?

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by workthecycle on Sep 17, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions

http://www.ktlkam1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st

On the Kings radio station, you can listen.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Sep 17, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions

In reference to all the Dandenault talk above

He assisted on Ferriero’s goal. Sharks up 1-0.

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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Sep 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions

That goal was more to do with Ferriero than Dandenault, though I’ll give him credit for putting a little pressure on the Kings D who were making bad, sloppy passes at the time.

by Evilducks on Sep 18, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions