FTF Regular Season Cheat Sheet: Home Base
by FTF Staff on Sep 29, 2009 6:14 AM PDT
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Greetings internet nerds! Here you will find links to the various pieces Mr. Plank and TCY put out over the course of the last twenty four hours detailing the remaining players left on San Jose's training camp roster. As one intent reader picked up on, the pairings we used in these articles were not our selections for the team, but instead were the lines McLellan rolled out against Phoenix in the final preseason game.
After the jump is our final roster- there you will find our proposed lines and defensive pairings. Sometime today David Pollak of Working The Corners will report the final cuts, and that information will be updated on the front page of this post. In fact, it's going to go right here ----> (my dream was always to become a link!)
[Editor's Note]: Dreams die obviously- Pollak reports that final cuts won't be made until Wednesday.
Thanks for reading. Enjoy.
- NHL Season Preview: 2009-2010 San Jose Sharks (Team Summary)
- Fringe Forwards (Mitchell, Shelley, Ferriero, Couture)
- Bottom Pairing and Defensive Depth (Huskins, Demers, Joslin, Moore, Petrecki, Callahan)
- Line Four (McLaren, Nichol, Staubitz)
- Line Three (McGinn, Malhotra, Ortmeyer)
- Goalies (Nabokov, Greiss, Stalock, Sexsmith)
- Top Four Defense (Boyle, Blake, Vlasic, Murray)
- Line Two (Marleau, Pavelski, Clowe)
- Line One (Heatley, Thornton, Setoguchi)
Here are our final line selections for the 2009-2010 San Jose Sharks.
Forwards
| Heatley | Thornton | Setoguchi |
| Marleau | Pavelski | Clowe |
| McGinn | Malhotra | Ferriero |
| Shelley | Nichol | McLaren |
| Scratch: | Ortemeyer |
Defenseman
| Boyle | Murray |
| Vlasic | Blake |
| Huskins | Demers |
| Scratch: | Callahan |
Goaltenders
| Nabokov |
| Greiss |
Torrey Mitchell will be placed on the LTIR. As we mentioned earlier, we're hoping for a mid-November return at the earliest. Does he come back that soon? Doubtful. The bet is that he won't see a lick of time in 2009, only returning when the appropriate cap space has been cleared. This roster is currently sitting $695,836 away from the ceiling. That is roughly half of what Mitchell is due to make this season.
Bank on mid-January depending on who makes the final cut.
Go Sharks.
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It feels nice to be finally done, I can tell you that much.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Sep 29, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously. Now we get to watch some actual hockey.
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and cause I don’t think this is said often enough … we all appreciate what you guys (even TCY) do … :)
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by ang6666 on Sep 29, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
I know I’ve only been a FTFer for a little bit now, but I am always impressed at the (well) written work you guys do. Plus, sometimes you’re funny.
But always funny looking.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Sep 29, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
People do tend to look at me funny.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 1:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And on that
We’re stuck with Direct TV and their pissing contest with Versus here. No chance a bar around here is going to have the hockey game at 10 o’clock. Any chance someone here will have a link to the game?
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by Dave Valentine on Sep 29, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's an interesting link for you
I’m not sure if this will help, put apparently Direct TV have been peppered with complaints and people threatening to cancel service over this.
From all reports, if you stamp your feet a little bit, they’ll give you Center Ice for free plus some other credits.
Here is that link:
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/mc/comments/dtv_versusfor_what_its_worth/
Also, I think the game will most probably be here:
http://www.atdhe.net
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Yeah, I have stomped my feet, threatened several times to change providers. They offered me a 50 buck discount on Center Ice. But that still doesn’t get me Thursday’s game. I’ll take the discount, but still looking for someplace to watch the game. Thanks for the link!
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by Dave Valentine on Sep 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
So, this is completely epic. Great job, you guys. Read through all of them, agreed with most points, love the final line selections.
Also, I have to bring up this point again. The Scott Nichol picture is probably the worst picture you could choose. Ever.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages
Sadly, we don’t choose tha pictures. Send a complaint to SB Nation, I’m sure they’ll get right on it (haha).
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by Matthew_Taylor on Sep 29, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, seriously? I mean, of all the pictures in the world, they choose that one? Some guy at SBN must have a dirty sense of humor, or just really doesn’t like Scott Nichol, haha.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Or he really liked Office Space.
Nichol is giving her the “O” face.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Sep 29, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
okay … this is a helluva lot of reading when one is trying to work … unfortunately I’ll have to skim thru and read when at home … ugh!
must have taken you guys forever! (okay, yes since it’s been so quiet)
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by ang6666 on Sep 29, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions
hell of a job
nice work guys. good reading while im also trying to work. I cannot wait for the season to kick off on Thursday. Also cannot wait to drive up and watch the game on the 10th!! good post guys
Random update
But Brad Lukowich was placed on waivers today by the Canucks. I feel really bad for him :(
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Yeah, I heard rumblings about that, but damn. I’m sure someone will pick him up on re-entry waivers later this season considering he’ll be worth half the price (as I’m assuming he’ll clear now).
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Fantastic stuff all the way around guys
I don’t have much else to add other then you’re breakdowns blow away any team preview I’ve seen so far (this year or any other) – the season is just two days away and I’m so amped, and very curious to see which 20 men suit up in Denver on Thursday.
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
I was surprised to see Ortmeyer getting so much 3rd line time, he seems like a solid 4th liner with Nichol and Shelley/McLaren. Ferriero definitely deserves Mitchell’s spot and gives the 3rd line even more scoring punch. Malhotra’s goal against the Ducks on Friday was a beautiful sight – McGinn working the boards, then turning a firing a quick tape-to-tape pass at Manny crashing the net from the sideboard, and one-timing it home. Very good sign that the two already are developing chemistry and slotting Ferriero in there will make the Mitchell injury not hurt nearly as bad.
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
Of course
This massive epic attack of awesomeness comes on my busiest day at work. Guess I’ll have a lot of reading to do when I get home! Wait, why am I on here right now again?
Yes, I'm from the tropics. Yes, I love hockey. What's not to get?
cause you bleed the teal, my friend. You gonna be at any of the upcoming home games?
Oh, so that's where you edit your signature
I'm trying to convince a buddy to come with me to the PHO game...
but he’s tight on cash and the cheap seats start around $25.
Yes, I'm from the tropics. Yes, I love hockey. What's not to get?
by workthecycle on Sep 29, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome write-ups guys
Pretty intense work here, I must say.
As for your proposed lines, I like them very much…save for McLaren with Shelley on line four. The reasons given for not having Shelley and Staubitz on the same line seem to also fit for why Shelley and McLaren shouldn’t be on the same line. I’d think Ortmeyer would be a better fit for the 4th line with his defensive capabilities and better skating, and just have Shelley and McLaren splitting the enforcer/scratch role. Just my two cents.
Still, this helped me get almost all the way through my work morning. So, well done! Well done, indeed.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 29, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions
I debated that with TCY last night over the same reasons you mentioned- Orts is going to be able to provide some help on the PK, which has been a big desire of mine since last year. I would love to see Marleau and Pavs get some reduced time.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was pencilled in on Thursday, and I’m completely fine with that.
Solid point.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 2:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My points are that Ortmeyer is constantly injured, and is sooooo extemely poor on the offensive side of the puck. I’d rather have McLaren, (at 6’4-225 is bigger than both Staubitz (6’1-213) and Ortmeyer (6’0-197)) who has some upside in a role other than fist fighter. He crashes the net with reckless abandon, and that was something that the Sharks so sorely lacked last year.
Plank and I agreed that it was basically a coin flp, but I give the edge to Frazer. I really grew to like him watching him play like a madman in the Worcester Sharks’ recent Calder Cup run.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Sep 29, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And my point was that you’re not going to get a whole lot of offense out of the fourth line anyway, so bringing on someone that can help make life easier on your real point producers is a bigger gain.
But yeah, coin flip. Its likely DW utilizes his two way deals all season long anyway, so a rotating cast of players is highly likely and makes (in my opinion) Ortmeyer’s obvious injury issues a near moot point.
The fourth line is probably going to stink regardless of who gets thrown out there.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 2:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This was also under the assumption San Jose keeps Shelley. I think Frazer is an upgrade in the winger department, but I doubt DW throws him under the bus and sends him through waivers.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 2:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Honestly, I’m not too worried about how many goals the 4th line doesn’t score. I am, however, worried about how many goals the 4th line gives up and how many penalties the 4th line takes. If we’re assuming that Shelley is a lock for the one wing (and he is, it seems), then I’d much rather have the defensive presence and PK ability out there for those 6-8 minutes a game that the 4th line will see. Honestly, if the 4th line scores 4 goals instead of 5 throughout the course of the season, I’m not going to cry too much.
However, I have also liked what I have seen out of McLaren, and if they were to, oh, trade Shelley for a hockey puck or something (a bag of pucks might be asking a bit much), I think he’d be a better fill in for that role than Staubitz. And for now he can mix things up in Woo-stah, and come out next year when Shelley is gone.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 29, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I see your point. I think it just may be my anti-Ortmeyer / pro-McLaren bias playing a role here.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Sep 29, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Word. McLaren is a beast.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 29, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Who needs TSN
When we have FTF? Great job guys; I really like the way you all write and be dammed with them Canajun news outlets! Let’s get you guys on Sharkbyte!
I'll drink that! oh...I'll drink TO that.
Was just talking on the phone with TCY about the power play- I suggested you throw Marleau on the blueline to make up for the lack of a proven offensive point man, and he floated moving Clowe up to line one in order to balance out the scoring. Patty gives you a lefty shot for one timers and has fulfilled that role before (Pavs has as well) so its not a huge shift in philosophy. Here’s what we got:
Heater – Jumbo – Clowe
Boyle – Marleau
McGinn – Pavs – Gooch
Blake – Vlasic
Obviously we’ll see a lot of combos, especially to start the year, but I like this set up a lot. Lots of movement and opportunity for backdoors on line one, and if you want a heavier shot you can shift Blake up and move down Boyle every now and then.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 1:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
edit
Lack of a proven offensive point man outside of Blake and Boyle obviously.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 1:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d love Clowe on the first pp unit if he is willing to go to the net to screen for Joe and Heatley. If not, I’d rather not sacrifice the deadliness of the first pp unit. We can’t have two players in the same corner :-P
Good point about trying out Patty on the blueline (or Pavs, if they so choose). Could prove to be rather useful.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 29, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Seto=Gooch
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
wow somehow i read that as Goc and didn’t think twice
by a10dency2ask on Sep 29, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I find it hilarious that you not only accepted Goc still being on the team, but also playing on the PP.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Anytime you can yell “Gooooochhhhhh” in public with 18,000 other people and not get dirty looks is precisely the reason it’s a great nickname.
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Ahem
17,562 other people. You have to be specific.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Very true, good point.
But phonetically Seto sounds so much better, to me at least. I really just don’t like the sound of “goo” for some reason. It just irks me.
(Wow, I feel cool because I used the word “phonetically”)
that second unit is looking a little weak compared to last year, I wonder how many shots ferriero will get after his preseason prowess
by a10dency2ask on Sep 29, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt any on the powerplay, especially if McGinn plays as expected.
I think he’s going to surprise alot of people next year.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Sep 29, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
i hope so
but his AHL stats aren’t overwhelming
by a10dency2ask on Sep 29, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
My bet is that they experiment a lot to start the year, so I think Ferriero gets a fair (ha!) shot.
Like I said below though, McGinn is the one who’s going to likely be the guy.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 3:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m sure he’ll get his fair amount at the beginning of the year, probably replacing McGinn on the second unit when applicable.
For what its worth though, I think McGinn is going to be the one left standing once the stretch run hits.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 3:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
DP's WTC the other day:
*****The Sharks have their annual charity golf tournament on Monday, so don’t expect any further cuts — or much other news — until Tuesday.
Were waiting!
If you're really desparate for Sharks stuff...
you could watch a minute and 27 seconds about the Sharks golf fundraiser thing
I’ve already seen that three times. I need something else new.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Apparently it's closer than you think!
http://sharks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=500340&navid=DL|SJS|home
According to this we’ll have a captain for the season by opening night!
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Looks like you'll be waiting another day.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 29, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit...
I hate this suspense
"..." - unknown
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by SetoThorMarChooSki on Sep 29, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
"He played the fewest amount of games last year that he played in a long time, so I don’t know if he’s any better for it. I don’t’ know if we have to manage Nabby’s minutes. What we have to manage is the results and the effort. I’m not even sure if we have to manage that. He has to manage that."
Love it.
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Translation...
Nabby, don’t suck.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 29, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Although, the fact that the whole “fewest amount of games” thing came about because he was injured does change things a bit.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
I'd love to believe that Nabby does have to earn his minutes
But unless Greiss (Scheiße. Too soon?) pulls his finger out, I can’t see it happening!
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Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Hahaha
Looks like someone tapped into a potential nickname….
Hopefully we won’t ever have to use it.
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Sep 29, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck yes!
In other news, a certain Nucks fan shakes his head in dismay.
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by Mr. Plank on Sep 29, 2009 4:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
NOOOOOOOO
During a radio interview just now, Joe Thornton revealed that Mitchell won’t be back for another 4-6 weeks. This sucks.
Well, now I’m about 90% sure that Ferriero will make the opening night roster.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Gah
Forgot to listen! anyway regarding the Mitchell situation… NOOOOOOOOO I hate that 4-6 weeks thing. Couldn’t it have been a different number?
Much better than 6-8 weeks. Especially when 6-8 weeks turns out to be more like 6-8 months.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
I hope his comes back in 4-6 weeks
well, and rested and ready to go.
I have more to say, but for the sake of not bringing in somewhat related things that aren’t hockey, I won’t. :)
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Yeah, I randomly remembered it and decided to listen to some of it, and Joe was talking about wanting to take all the blame and not reading papers past February, and then he threw in the thing about Mitchell being out but then switched over to talking about Cheechoo. Meanwhile, I was going “WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!?”
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
How weird.
I just realized I didn’t even hear the Mitchell part. I was doing HW anyways but I heard the “Give me the blame” part.
Bad news everyone!
This really sucks for Torrey. So much for a triumphant return to the lineup.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
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by Lurker Shark on Sep 29, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Super nice work, guys
and amazingly thorough. I still have this odd, nagging uncertainty regarding this season. but I do feel like I have a better idea of what to expect from all the regular players. And a few of the not quite as regular ones too.
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