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The Toronto Maple Leafs have started the trade deadline frenzy.

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Here's the Deal as said on NHL.com

The complete deal was Phaneuf, right wing Fredrik Sjostrom and prospect Keith Aulie to Toronto for forwards Niklas Hagman, Matt Stajan, Jamal Mayers and defenseman Ian White.

Wow, this really remakes both teams.  Phaneuf is the most well known of these players amongst Sharks fans.  So its good news well be seeing less of him.  This is a good move for both teams has both of them are a few short breaths away from drowning.  The two big players the Flames are recieving are Hagman and White.  White is one of the best passers in the NHL, he often passes blue line to blue line and springs a forward in for a breakaway, he's dangerous this way.  Hagman is a good solid scorer, something Calgary lacks enough of.

But Burke may not be done, although its not official, its been reported (by TSN I think) that Toskala has been sent to Anaheim for Giguere.  If this is true, I'm sorry Toskala, but you have joined the dark side.  I pray for your lost soul.

 

EDIT: Phaneuf obviously adds a solid and proven defenceman to a team that has a tendency to leave its goalie wondering what team he is actually facing.  This shores up the defence a bit, but in return they sacrifice some good scoring players.  I have seen flashes of brilliance from some of the other forwards, but no consistency, so scoring is a real problem for Toronto.  Phil Kessel is by far their best forward, and although hasn't been great for consistency, he has been their most consistent and dependable.  Burke may be trying to rebuild the team from the back end, which is usually the case.  Phaneuf may be paired with Komisarek who has been struggling to regain his form, mainly due to injuries.

So as I was saying earlier, this trade really helps Calgary offensively.  White can spring forwards through his long stretch passes and Hagman I think would fit in nicely on the second line and add more scoring depth.

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One other thing I forgot to add

Giguere would have to wave his no-trade clause for his trade to happen.

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by Diamondback15 on Jan 31, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

Will be extremely weird to see Vesa as a Duck.

Especially if he plays against us later this year as a Duck.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jan 31, 2010 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

If we do hopefully he doesn't go the path of Nolan

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by Diamondback15 on Jan 31, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

This may not be the end of trades for the day

I signed up to post this, but wow. Who woulda known.

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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jan 31, 2010 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, this is crazy

I mean, yay for Vesa for getting away from the Leafs, because I don’t think that they were ever going to be satisfied with his performance, and Giguere at least has a Cup to his name.

There was always an inking that Phaneuf would be traded every since that 9-1 game, but it was one of those things that you didn’t think would really happen. White is an underrated pickup for the Flames (he was probably the Leafs’ best defenseman), but they did have to give to get, and Phaneuf perfectly fits Brian Burke’s mold of player.

Oh, and rumor is that Minnesota might be dealing today as well. What, did they confuse the end of January with the trade deadline?

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by mymclife on Jan 31, 2010 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

Well, there’s a roster freeze for the Olympics, but that’s pretty much it.

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by mymclife on Jan 31, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

when does the roster freeze go into effect?

by IsThisTheYear? on Jan 31, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Who would Minnesota trade?

And I bet Eklund is taking credit for this rumor.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jan 31, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Minnesota's a wide open book, actually

The have lots of qualtity middle-of-the-road guys with different skill sets that could mesh with any team.

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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jan 31, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

2+ team trades confuse me.

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by idunno723 on Jan 31, 2010 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

Oh, and snap.

Didn’t realize Jason Blake was sent to Anaheim in the Toskala deal. Blake could give the west coast major problems if overlooked.

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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jan 31, 2010 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

yeah. I was not a fan of this move for that reason. Selfishly Sharks centered concerns.

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by CTGray on Jan 31, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Well holy balls.

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by Lurker Shark on Jan 31, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

I just realized something.

This is the second trade where the Leafs have given the Ducks goalie leftovers, the first one being with Pogge.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jan 31, 2010 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

Good buddy of mine is a Leaf's fan

His take on Blake is that he’s not worth his contract at all. He does score a lot for the Leafs, but he seems to think it was because he was one of the few players who could.

It’s always tough to judge anyone coming from a team like the Leafs. They are just so bad, how do you tell if any of them are worth anything?

On paper, I don’t think anyone won the trade outright. Phaneuf is the biggest name, but his overratedness is a topic that’s been beaten to death. So I won’t say Toronto wins that trade just yet. As for Giguere and Toskala, they are both in need of new scenery. I think Giguere benefits because Gustavson is not ready to be a full time starter yet, and WANTS a true mentor. I think Giguere fits that bill. Toskala probably loses, because no way he starts in Anaheim. He’s basically riding out the rest of his contract until he can sign somewhere else.

Interesting that both he and Nabokov are UFA next season. I don’t know if Toskala is the cheaper answer in goal next season if Nabokov is allowed to walk. Nabby is looking solid again, which makes me feel better about our post-season chances. But this is a salary cap world at the end of the day. Nabokov is a good goaltender. Can we afford to keep this team together with a $5M man in net? I personally don’t think so. If Nabokov doesn’t take a pay cut, I really don’t think we can keep him. And if we do, I don’t know who we pick up. Toskala is someone with history with us obviously, but he’s not who he was when he left.

Well, let’s see what happens…

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by ElvisVF101 on Jan 31, 2010 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Anaheim does need a back-up though.

Unless they are extremely confident in Justin Pogge to fill that role next year, but I would not be surprised to see Vesa locked up contractually as their back-up.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jan 31, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll bet solid money

Vesa is in the KHL next year.

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by Evilducks on Jan 31, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Food for thought

Calgary is missing 6.5 mi on the salary………..

Is this how Calgary gets in on the Kovalchuck sweepstakes?

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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jan 31, 2010 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t see Kovalchuk as the answer to Calgary’s problems. They still don’t have a pivot man, something that Kovi could benefit from, too.

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by stufflife on Jan 31, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't either

But that’s never stopped them before?

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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jan 31, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The deal was effectively Salary Neutral for Calgary

They no longer have a premier player outside of Iginla, Bouwmeester or Regher to move in exchange for Kovalchuk.

I don’t see what they can afford to give up for Kovy now.

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by ElvisVF101 on Jan 31, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

These trades make me feel a little bad for Boston, all the sudden. They trade away Kessel for picks and were just about to back into a first overall, or at least a lottery pick. Now, Toronto begins their rebuilding period early and probably just helped Carolina along the way.

Wait, I fucking hate Boston.

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by stufflife on Jan 31, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

Man

I just had to wake up to this after a night-long LAN gaming session. What a wacky day for hockey.

by Nael M. on Jan 31, 2010 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

Looks like the trades aren't over.

It’s not final but it appears Olli Jokinen is going to the Rangers for Kotalik and Higgins.

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by ElvisVF101 on Jan 31, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

Go look at the boxscore for the 9-1 drubbing of Calgary

And then look at Phaneuf’s stats in general for the year, and for last year.

I wouldn’t call him a solid, proven, defensemen.

He’s a guy that likes to throw a big hit, but doesn’t seem to understand when that will put him out of position. He’s great on the point on the power play, but other than that, I’m curious how he’ll do without Regehr watching his back.

I think Calgary did really well in prying White out of Toronto, he was probably 1 of 2 bright spots on their defense and it sounds like the other may still be moved. I think they’re the winners here.

The Giggy trade, meh. It’s good for both teams I guess, probably really good for both goalies who desperately need a change of scenery, I don’t think it does anything other than effect their caps slightly over the next year or two.

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by Evilducks on Jan 31, 2010 10:39 PM PST reply actions  

I agree that Phaneuf is overated but

he is still a good defenseman. I also agree that Toronto gave up a lot of their few good players.

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by Diamondback15 on Jan 31, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I have never seen a young Pronger play, but some people compare him to Phaneuf in terms of being bad defensively early in his career. Now I know they are different people and make their own choices, but that’s Phaneuf’s potential developmental track. Perhaps the other Leafs D-man vets and the coach can instill some discipline in him.

by Mr Tea on Feb 1, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Good discussion here, and thanks for the fanshot Diamondback. I’ll have something on the FP later today on it. Damn midterms have me swamped.

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by Mr. Plank on Feb 1, 2010 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

I'm actually starting my first day back at school today, don't have to worry about midterms for a while.

I’m looking forward to more in-depth analysis of the moves, I wanted to get more into but I’ve been really busy over the past two days.

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by Diamondback15 on Feb 1, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Why is Stajan overlooked in this discussion? He has 20% more points than Hagman and his career seems to show a better overall scoring path than Hagman. Calgary got what they needed and traded from their depth. It feels like they will be better overall.

My hope now is that Detroit and Calgary move up to the 6th and 7th spots in the West forcing Nashville to slide into the 8 spot which would make for some easy blood for us in the first round. For this to happen, either Colorado or LA would have to tank out of the standings.

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Feb 1, 2010 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

Or maybe Phoenix slides out of a playoff spot since Upshall seems to be done for the season.

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Feb 1, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, I was in a rush so I went with what I already knew.

I knew Hagman because I think he’s been around a little bit longer.

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by Diamondback15 on Feb 1, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

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