2010-2011 Season Preview: Goaltending
The 2010-2011 season is right upon us, so Plank and TCY thought it would be prudent to highlight each individual player on the Sharks roster as hockey returns for its 20th season in San Jose. Every installment in this series can be found here.
Antti Niemi
Expected Role: Goaltender in Sharks' tandem
When Antti Niemi was brought in to the San Jose Sharks organization, it wasn't so he could sit on the bench. Although he's going to split starts with Antero Niittymaki to start the season, Doug Wilson likely sees Niemi as the starter, and a Stanley Cup winner at that.
How much he deserved that Cup is up for debate, but it's hard to argue that he stepped it up when his team needed him to against the Sharks in the Western Conference Finals. If he hangs around a .910 save percentage like he did last year the Sharks will still be a Western Conference top seed. However, it's been suggested (about a million times) that Niemi's numbers and wins were a direct result of the defense in front of him. That defense was much better than the defense he'll be behind this year.
On the plus side, it wasn't all luck... Niemi does have some skill. He's huge in net, and he gets down to the pads faster than many of the other hefty netminders. He takes up space. Problem is, he has trouble holding on to what hits him, and generates a copious amount of rebounds. With the blueline currently in place, that's an issue.
Although we'd love to give Niemi the benefit of the doubt, he's looked pretty awful so far this preseason. We'll see what happens when the games start to matter, but at this point we're hoping he proves everyone wrong.
Antero Niittymaki
Expected Role: Goaltender in Sharks' tandem
Once the Sharks let Evgeni Nabokov leave for free agency, it was clear that the next goaltender they picked up wouldn't be logging 70+ games and dictating starts. A new age of competition between the pipes was born, and for Antero Niittymaki, that's nothing out of the ordinary-- he's never been the clear cut number one anywhere he's played, with a career high of 46 starts in both 2006-2007 and 2009-2010.
On July 1st San Jose went out and got Niittymaki early in the morning, citing his play during the 2006 Olympics as the point where they realized he would be a good fit for the Sharks. With an even strength SV% that has been trending upwards during the last few seasons. He'll be much more aggressive when channeling shooters than Niemi this season, and relies on his positioning and reflexes to stop pucks.
Of course there's the inconsistency, a hallmark of Niittymaki's career. He'll have a week where he's absolutely unstoppable followed by one where he's unhelpable. In essence he's a perfect guy for a tandem, something that the Sharks have planned on ever since July 1st.
The big question with Niittymaki and Niemi will be their ability to replicate Nabokov's 2009-2010 season in front of a defensive unit without the services of Rob Blake. If they can improve on their seasons last year the Sharks will be fine.
If not? Then expect to see a couple 6-5 slobberknockers all the way til' April.
Thomas Greiss
Expected Role: Sh*t Outta Luck Goaltender in Sharks' tandem
The Antti Niemi signing sent ripples throughout the Sharks' goaltending organization. Antero Niittymaki got the starters job ripped away from him. At least he's in the NHL. Thomas Greiss got moved off the San Jose Sharks roster, and instead will either be in Worcester or another city to begin the year.
Greiss is ready to play in the NHL. He's been ready for years. The 2009-2010 season represented his second season with NHL experience, and he's proved that he's a capable starter over his time in the AHL. Now, though, it looks like he's going to have to prove that all over again.
Yes, Greiss is a crazy headache in net. He takes risk and makes you nervous. But his numbers are good. His reputation is good. He's an NHL player. Just not on this team.
We'd assume that Greiss has been shopped around a bit, but with Tyson Sexsmith (the current Worcester backup) being moved to Stockton, it's likely that Doug Wilson has decided to have his goalies split starts in Worcester too. Sorry Stalock.
Alex Stalock

Expected Role: AHL Goaltender
Al Stalock is another casualty of the Antti Niemi signing, because without it, Stalock would have once again gotten the starts in Worcester. With Thomas Greiss now in the AHL, Stalock won't get near the playing time he would have before.
Who knows if Greiss will stay in Worcester all year. He's a trade or a an injury away from an NHL job. If any of those things happen, Stalock is back as the de facto number one.
He's had some injuries in the past, so maybe fewer starts will be good for him. He has the skill, and he's just 23. He'll get his chance, but because of all the factors working against him this year, it doesn't look like that chance will come any time soon.
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Please don't get me wrong here...
I love FTF… But of there is any one thing I can’t bring myself to hash out right now I’d the goaltending of the Sharks… It feels like a mine field hovering over a bottomless abyss…
Ok, a little over dramatic?
But seriously. I can’t even begin to figure this mess out and pass judgement until I think at least 10-15 games into the season.
by skilletboy on Oct 5, 2010 7:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Ditto
What a fuggen mess…
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I agree. It usually takes me about twenty games to get into the swing of things and assess the entire roster, especially new guys.
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by Mr. Plank on Oct 5, 2010 8:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
When was the last time we had to evaluate a goalie?
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Thats a great point. I guess 05-06 when Vesa beat out Nabby for the start job and played the majority of PO games.
I remember all the talk about trading Nabby and keeping Vesa.
Can you imagine if we had done that?
Ugh…
by skilletboy on Oct 5, 2010 10:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I actually thought, after the signing, that Niittymaki would be a pretty good fit for the Sharks. As long as the defense could clear out the crease and allow shots from further away (like they did for Nabby for the most part), the Niitty should be able to get his big body in front of it. He doesn’t let in loads of rebounds. I thought he’d be good, and Greiss would look good with 30 starts or so.
Then the Sharks signed Niemi, and it made literally zero sense! He’s not a goalie that eats shots, he kicks them back out and hopes the defense clears them out. He has a slow glove and won’t come out and challenge shooters and cut down shooting lanes. The signing of Niemi just reeked of desperation by DW after not being able to sign the defenseman he wanted.
In the end, I really, really hope Niittymaki is given a fair shake, as I think he could really take this job and run with it…and I hope that since we’re stuck with Niemi, that he isn’t a complete sieve in a backup role. I’m actually much more worried about what the Niemi signing means for the Sharks than our issues on the blueline.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Oct 5, 2010 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
THANK YOU!!!
…. For putting into intelligent words what I could not. That’s exactly what I was pessimistically thinking when we signed Nemi, then witnessing during the pre season.
Ahhhh it’s going to be a long season for us Shark fans.
by WeeDogger on Oct 5, 2010 10:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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Keep saying what a great signing Niemi is. And, in a vacuum, a 1 year, $2M contract for a goalie of his skills is not bad.
For our roster, and our cap structure, it made no sense. If we didn’t sign him, I’m pretty sure he was bound for Europe, because I don’t think anyone else in the league was after goaltending at the time. It’s not like his signing for a close rival was imminent.
So yeah, no sense at all.
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My biggest concerns with Niemi still stem around my critiques from last season…he has a very weak (if not nonexistent) glove, and is extremely vulnerable versus the top shelf shots, especially stick-side. He rebounds, and has about as much stick as a Teflon brick. We don’t have Kieth and Seabrook class defensemen in front of him, which makes rebounds a real problem. Nabokov was 100% stick most of the time, and we’re justnot going to be able to lean on Niemi like we did Nabby when our cards were spent.
I feel better about Nitty, not only from summer camp, but moreso from the Vancouver game last week. He let one softy in, and the other was from a great screening by our own guys (or so it appeared from my vantage point), but he had more glove and air coverage than what I’d seen from the newer half of the Dynamic Duo.
Agreed, it will thais about a dozen or so games for the he’ll to set in on the team, but being realistic, we still need some top shelf D to make up for Nabby’s loss. Right now we only are saving about $1M in net, and it truly remains to be seen what the impact really will be.
Miss Nabbers already, but I hope the Nit picks it up.
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by Noctro on Oct 5, 2010 11:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
God, Ann six on iPhone
1st sentence of the third paragraph should read “I agree that it will take a dozen or so games for the gel to set in on the team…”
Not being able to scroll back and review kinda blows.
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by Noctro on Oct 5, 2010 11:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL “Ann six”…gotta love the auto correct. “SBN sux”… :-)
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by Noctro on Oct 5, 2010 11:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If i was looking at buying an iPhone
and I read Fear the Fin comments, I don’t know that I would have a high opinion of the iPhone based on Noctro’s posts. Good thing I already have one :D
I love my iPhone...
It’s just that SB nation’s “mobile editor” sucks (expletive) when combined with the small screen and “autocorrecting” spelling. I guess it boils down to the fact that I really just should not post anything longer than one screen when on the iPhone, but it just never works out that way. While sometimes hilarious, the auto-corrects that the phone does have lead to some embarrassing moments at times (and yet it never seems to fix “teh”).
Honestly, I have no idea why we can edit our FanPosts and FanShots, but not our comments, but, well, whatever.
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The topic of being able to edit comments has been brought up all over SBN.
While fixing spelling and grammar mistakes would be a good idea, an edit button could be a little destructive (think butters + changing what he says). Blez (the dude who mad the whole SBN thing) has always said that SBN was supposed to have an “online sports bar” feel where people can have conversations and if you say something stupid you can’t take it back. I know there are a lot of comments I’d like to go back and edit, but it’s almost like rewriting history. It just happens spelling and grammatical errors are a casualty of this.
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yeah
I don’t think they should allow editing comments. it makes you think a little more before posting (or at least it SHOULD).
for things like typos, it doesn’t really matter if you go back and fix it. I’d say at least 90% of the time people know what you’re talking about regardless and when they don’t it’s just a small matter of clarification.
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by PNK on Oct 6, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaaaaand just to let all of you iPhone users know, SBN mobile commenting works just find on Android haha
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^fine
Of course I have to make a spelling error when talking about spelling errors.
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by Noctro on Oct 6, 2010 10:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
For the record...
…I’m not saying mobile commeting doesn’t work, I’m saying the lack of a scroll elevator on the comment field makes it impossible to review posts longer than one “screen” in length. Maybe it’s a Mobile Safari thing.
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by Noctro on Oct 6, 2010 10:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This is pretty much how I’ve felt since the Vancouver games, as well.
I feel like it’s pretty likely we’ll shop one or both of these guys at some point. My sincere hope is that Nitty doesn’t get shopped as much or as hard because he seems to be a far better fit for us. We’ll see if that changes once live fire begins, but that’s where I think it stands now.
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I totally agree. Pretty excited about Niitty
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I was comfortable with letting Nabby go
and always had the feeling that Karlsson would’ve been good to take over, along with Greiss. But Karlsson was traded on the notion that he was going to Europe, but ended up signing with Calgary, and was excellent in the preseason with them.
In the Sharks preseason, of the 3 goalies, Nitty and Greiss played the best.
Now, I’m with the others who are saying to wait about 15 games, or so, to see how it’s going. Perhaps the unsaid plan is to rotate through all 3 of them throughout the season.
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Karlsson is in now way an NHL starting goalie for a team with cup aspirations.
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Same boat. I miss Nabby but was comfortable letting him go, too, only because of his cost and the cap. The summer trades and acquisitions did not go the way I had hoped, to say the least, so now it’s just… wait and see in due time who’ll be our best in net.
by JenLovesHockey on Oct 6, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh god, don't get me started on the Karlsson thing.
He so should have been on a plane out here it’s not even remotely funny.
I’m guessing Stalock will be our man in 2013, though. That guy is hella insane in the crease (and out of it).
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Missing Nabby.....
I dont care what anyone says… I really miss Nabby…. he was good….. I loved his personality and his goal tending.
what I have seen so far… sigh….. I hope and pray for better things to come!!!!
His personality was great, he was so funny when he got all Russian and sarcastic.
Miss his shifty-eyes when he made a badass save.
I guess with the anticlimactic picks for goalies this season, it’s “reminiscing about Nabby” time for a lot of us.
by JenLovesHockey on Oct 6, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
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Ok, so I am not one for change so every new season I struggle a little in the beginning. This year more than ever I will struggle. No Nabby in the net is hard for me to grasp. I really hope that my anxiety is won over by their talent and ability in the net…..
Poor Greiss
But I did get a laugh at the caption.
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by AmazinglyGraceless on Oct 6, 2010 2:27 PM PDT reply actions
By the way
Sexy was in net for the Thunder @ Alaska, Tues. preseason game.
Thunder with the 3-1 ‘W’
Game Stats: Stopped 31 of 32 shots. Former SJSU goalie Pamidi dressed as back-up.
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That's good to hear!
I really think Sexsmith could be our real future in net.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Oct 6, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I still worship at the altar of the almighty Stalock. But the sinner in my keeps wondering about Sateri.
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Stalock should beat Sexsmith to the NHL…Stalock-Sexsmith could be awesome down the line. I’ll be interested to see if Stalock improves in the AHL this year at all. I’d like to see him start dominating it before I annoint him starter of the future.
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