Enhance Your Experience: Backing a League approved video explaining suspensions
Perhaps nothing is more controversial in the modern NHL than the League's policy concerning suspensions.
The Wheel of Justice, referring to Colin Campbell's decisions on assessing supplementary discipline for actions frowned upon by the League, has become a sort of comedic riot for hockey fans in North America. It has become increasingly difficult to figure out what constitutes a play being deemed worthy of suspension, from head shots to lewd gestures to blindside hits to off-ice comments. The discrepancy amongst the punishment assessed for infractions runs the gamut from too lax to overprotective, slightly confusing to absurd.
This isn't to say the League doesn't get suspensions right some of the time-- they most definitely do. As is the case with nearly everything in contemporary society, mistakes get magnified and correct behavior tends to be overlooked. Human beings as a whole love to nitpick and second guess. It is empowering to know that those in power can make mistakes like the common man. They are human beings after all, and that fact is one which will never go unnoticed.
However, the NHL's disciplinary policy is one that has received it's fair share of criticism over the years, and rightly so. The list of complaints over suspendable offenses has now become too large to ignore-- from blogs to mainstream outlets, players to fanbases, it seems as if everyone has felt the NHL has gotten something wrong that pertains to the sport or organization they follow and cover.
The biggest complaint? A lack of consistency, and a lack of communication from the League to their customers.
Although the publication of this piece coincides with the two game suspension of Sharks Captain Joe Thornton (which definitely played a large role in the decision to run this), there needs to be some clarity-- it is quite clear that the NHL has taken hits to the head extremely seriously this season. As Greg Wyshynski of Puck Daddy mentioned earlier today, the evidence of this has been mounting for some time now:
It's the same thing they did with Shane Doan of the Phoenix Coyotes, the other high-profile captain suspended under the head-shot rule. As we said at the time of his 3-game ban:
"This is a statement to the players, as loud as any the League has made this season: Even the seemingly benign blindside hits are on the radar. The game has changed."
And so it has. So Thornton's agent will consider an appeal (via Dreger) and the Sharks and their fans will get all sorts of pissed off that this was a suspension rather than a fine, like the one Nick Foligno received for basically doing the same thing Thornton did.
The majority of blogs and pundits across the country agree that this hit did not deserve a suspension. This much is clear.
But what is clearer is the fact that the NHL disagrees. The League has decided to make a huge stand on hits to the head, first with Doan and now with Thornton. No player is exempt from the rule, and no contact, from a graze to a full on target, will be overlooked. Concussions in the sport have already become a huge story in the last year, and the NHL has taken them very seriously.
Has it compromised the integrity of hitting in the sport? Possibly. Has it turned the NHL into a no-contact League where players are coddled for skating with their heads down? Not yet. Has it attempted to address the concussion issues that were prevalent throughout the sport, the issues that had the majority of individuals clamoring for a rule change six months ago?
Yes. And for better or worse, this is the way it is going to be from here on out. Thornton's suspension leaves no gray area in that regard.
However, as the aforementioned Wyshynski mentioned above, Nick Foligno's hit on Pat Dwyer shares many similarities with Thornton's hit on David Perron. The pass comes from a defenseman up the center of the ice, the offended player has his head down, and contact with the head was made. So why did Foligno go unpenalized during the game, was not suspended afterwards, and only assessed a fine? And why was Thornton was ejected from the game, missing thirty five minutes of action, and consequently suspended for a deuce?
Here is the NHL's press release concerning Thornton:
San Jose Sharks forward Joe Thornton has been suspended for two games and will forfeit $77,419.36 in salary as a result of delivering an illegal check to the head of St. Louis Blues forward David Perron in NHL game #176, last night, the National Hockey League announced today.
The incident occurred at 5:26 of the second period and Thornton was assessed a major penalty and game misconduct under Rule 48 for Illegal Check to the Head. Thornton will miss games against Tampa Bay (Nov. 6) and Anaheim (Nov. 9). He is eligible to return Nov. 11 against the New York Islanders.
Clarity. This release does does not have it.
It is akin to reading a boxscore after the game, a nuts and bolts explanation of a play that has numerous other factors involved. It offers nothing except information that even the most casual observers can figure out on their own.
Satisfying customers is ultimately the NHL's biggest priority. Without revenue the League doesn't flourish, and without fans, that revenue stream dries up. Fans are the most important thing to every single NHL organization-- they allow management to spend vast amounts of money on players, hold promotions to increase cash flow, and draw in media outlets to cover the sport and increase exposure. Everything is interdependent here, but without fans, the whole system collapses. No fans means no interest. No interest means no exposure. No exposure means no growth. Simple.
This isn't to say that the NHL has turned a blind eye towards fans-- far from it. The League is consistently at the forefront of the social media revolution in the sporting world, by far the most privy to these things than every other sport league in the United States of America. They do an excellent job of disseminating information to their customers over the internet, a direct line straight into the vein of fanbases everywhere.
Which makes this proposal a fairly easy one to implement. The infrastructure is already there, the track already laid. All it takes is a conductor to get the train moving out of the station.
The idea is simple-- a video of suspensions, complete with audio commentary throughout, explaining why each incident was suspendable according to the current NHL Rulebook.
With all of the confusion surrounding the Wheel of Justice over the years, this would be a great way for the NHL to directly explain to their consumer, as well as the organizations effected by supplementary discipline, why a certain ruling was given out. Clarity breeds understanding, and understanding for the players and fans can never be considered a detriment to the game. A minute long video breaking down the play, from the rules to the methods involved that warranted discipline, can only be a good thing for the League.
We're going to assume here that Mike Murphy and Colin Campbell went over the tape for (at the very least) fifteen minutes before reaching their ruling-- it would be ridiculous to suggest otherwise. In that time frame they looked at every angle available to them, took into account the game situation, analyzed body positioning, scrutinized the rulebook, and went over the offending player's disciplinary history. Condensing the notes and analysis from those meetings into a minute long video released to the players and press would be a quick process to undergo. It explains what they saw, how they came to their conclusion, and why they chose to implement (or not implement) punishment in the way that they did.
An argument against this proposal is that the NHL would be in a position where they could be forced to admit a referee's mistake on the ice. It's a worthwhile point to raise, and one that could block this from being implemented.
However, suspensions are rulings that come after the game has been completed. In other words, discipline is being handled after the game with a focus on the infraction that was committed, not whether or not the player was penalized on the play. It's removed from the referees decision during the game, as it has been in the past when players have been suspended for a hit that resulted in a non-call from the officials.
The point is that there is self imposed protocol for being consistent with rulings. That’s the most important thing— getting these decisions correct, even if they weren't penalized before, and explaining to players and fans why discipline was handed out in the way it was. It sets the standard going forward.
The 2010-2011 new rules video released by the League at the beginning of the season was a good step for the NHL, and allowed them to attempt to define what a head shot is and isn't. However, hockey is an extremely fluid sport-- players come in at varying angles, contact is made at different points of the body, and the play progresses at different speeds. Each situation is different, and needs to be explained as such. The more the League is able to communicate that to their players by providing an increasingly larger body of work that coaches and players have to work with in regard to these rules, the better understanding all involved can have of what constitutes a suspendable offense and what does not.
Transparency and clarity. This can only be a good thing for the NHL. And on Tuesday at the GM meetings, where policies and rule implementations are discussed, we hope they consider this addition.
It may not change how suspensions are handled. It may not change interepretation of the rulebook. This is completely fine.
But it would make these decisions much clearer to those who struggle with figuring out why a certain play went unpunished while another one did. And while the Wheel of Justice may continue to spin to a tune no one can quite figure out, we would all have a much better idea of where the wheel will eventually land.
It makes players more accountable for their actions. It makes players more accountable to their coaches. It provides a constant explanation of what is right and wrong, a fluid dialogue between the League and those playing the game-- a dialogue that would make it clear this is what they expect and why they expect it.
In theory, it's a one minute of video explaining each suspension. In practice, it's a way to make the game safer and more enjoyable for all.
Go Sharks.
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I fully endorse transparancy
I think the discussion this hit generated is a perfect example of what the league could improve upon. I’ve engaged in no small amount of speculation in the discussion as to why the league would suspend Joe or why the hit was bad.
A simple statement from the league regarding what Joe did and WHAT OTHER PLAYERS SHOULD NOT DO would go a long way to eliminating “bad” hits and encouraging “good” hits.
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It's a good idea BUT...
They won’t do it unless they also bring in instant replay.
They aren’t going to put their own staff in the position of saying “Look here… this is where the ref blew the call… here is where he must have been distracted and not watching…”
Right now, they can hand out arbitrary short suspensions simply to support the officials. If they had to go into details to explain why… well… they couldn’t. That’s sort of the point.
I dont see why saying the Ref made a mistake is so bad. They’re human too, they make mistakes, I would actually be happier to hear that then to think they agree with an obviously blown call.
by animadiversion on Nov 5, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought I covered it in the piece, but after looking, I realized I didn’t. I’ll update shortly.
Suspensions are rulings that come after the game has been completed. In other words, discipline is being handled after the game with no regard to what the officials called on the ice. If a player is suspended on a play he didn’t get penalized on during the game, isn’t that an admission that the ref blew the call anyways? And if a player is suspended after the refs made the call on the ice, it’s just supplemental discipline for what the referees already punished the offending player for.
The point is that there is self imposed protocol for getting these things right. That’s the most important thing— getting them correct, even if you messed up before, and explaining to the players and fans why discipline was handed out in the way it was.
Not to say you don’t have a good point, because you most definitely do.
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In other words, I don’t think a video explaining the infraction and why (or why not) supplemental discipline was handed out makes a difference. It’s essentially the same situation we have now in regards to suspensions except there is now video explaining the conclusion, instead of everyone running around with their heads afire trying to figure out what constituted an illegal hit.
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…instead of everyone running around with their heads afire trying to figure out what constituted an illegal hit.
Here’s the thing… I don’t think the “league as a whole” knows or agrees on what is or isn’t an illegal hit. Many people think these hits like Mitchell on Toews, Murray on Chipchurra, and Thornton on Perron SHOULD be a part of the NHL, while ohers do not.
I think hard ass, knock-you-out-cold hits should stay in the NHL. The inherent problem though IS THAT THERE IS actually more grey area with hits like this.
I think the league is confused and they are trying to listen and pander to too many voices. Not everyone is on the same page.
And many fans, like me, think they are pacifying the NHL.
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by skilletboy on Nov 5, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. They need to decide what they want the hits to be or not, and go after this. In the past hits were totally instinctual, someone saw a guy with the puck and used their body to stop it anyway they could. Making delivering a hit a more considered, thoughtful action (is he looking at me? Does he know I’m here? Where is his head pointed? Where will his head be pointed in a few seconds? Where is the puck? etc) kind of takes away the point of a hit, to me.
LET THE ERA OF THE SUSHI BEGIN!
And, ultimately I don’t think the league WILL or DOES agree on these hits.
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by skilletboy on Nov 5, 2010 5:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m agreeing here.
I’d also like to add, I don’t think a single player in that game last night knows what Joe did wrong. So the people who were there in person, on the ice no less, didn’t learn anything aside from “don’t hit a guy who is taking a suicide pass when you come out of the box.” Which is something, I guess, but I’m not sure that it explains WHY you shouldn’t do that, especially when the hit doesn’t come from (at least as far as I can tell from what the league said) a lateral or rear angle to the player.
I feel like I need a diagram showing the acceptable angles. Possibly with the players head in different positions, showing how that affects it.
I doubt the league will give it to me.
I'm drunk...
… so nothing good coming from me.
However, Murray’s hit on Chipchurra makes #1 hit of the week on NHL.com… which was a worse shoulder-to-head hit than Thornton’s.
Pull your head out of your asses!!!!
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by SharksFanTillDeath on Nov 5, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Well done on all counts!!
Continue…
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by skilletboy on Nov 5, 2010 10:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it’s the opposite problem—the league is listening to the small chorus of sportswriters who screech about the dangers of head hits (Adam Proteau, I’m looking at you). Therefore, the league feels the need to overcorrect and punish Thornton for hitting another player’s head, even if it was an accident. If the league took malicious hits seriously then all we’d be left with is accidents like Thursday’s game. Instead, we get a situation where players are encourage to tuck their heads and draw head hits, especially if the other guy is 6 inches taller or more. “Transparency” won’t help in this case—the head of officiating can go on NHL Network and go to the tape to tell us “Thornton hit the guy in the head, therefore he deserves a suspension”. And like I said yesterday—the threat of a 40 game suspension for a head hit would not have saved Perron (who I mistakenly called Parros on Twitter, sorry dude!).
Bottom line: the league needs to be consistent on the line between “accident” (the automatic penalties), and “malice” (fines and suspensions).
I see where you are going, and in theory you are right. If the NHL weren’t such an ‘old boys club’ (along with every other pro sport), it might happen.
My guess though is they would still see it as ‘a challenge to the authority of the refs’. I frankly don’t believe they think they have to be transparent. The commissioner works for he owners, who are nothing if not arrogant.
Another issue that is largely unspoken here is that I actually think what they need to be penalizing is intent, not action. Big Joe wasn’t moving very fast last night. I can argue that Perron blindly running into one of his own players would have been just as damaging. You are never going to take the occasional head-hit out of hockey. Nor should you. This is still a world that puts up with boxing and cage fighting as sports. They are professionals, and choose the risk.
You do however want to take out predators. Rule 48 is almost right. There is one ‘or’ clause in there that makes ANY hit to the head illegal, not just a targeted hit to the head. That’s where they blew it.
Yes, it’s hard to define intent, and it would not be compatible with your idea ("Here is where we have decided he started thinking “I think I’ll knock his block off like a rock’em sock’em robot…”). But it’s like pornography; I can’t define head-hunting, but I know it when I see it.
This isn’t to say the League doesn’t get suspensions right some of the time— they most definitely do. As is the case with nearly everything in contemporary society, mistakes get magnified and correct behavior tends to be overlooked.
I would argue the league gets it WRONG the vast majority of the time. I can only think of maybe one suspension they got right so far this year (Briere playing baseball on a guys head). Everything else I’ve been confused, or down right angered by.
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Everything else I’ve been confused, or down right angered by.
Are you talking about suspensions, or Buttercrunch’s posts?
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Suddenly it’s clear… Buttercrunch is Colin Campbell…
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by Evilducks on Nov 5, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Omg.
+1
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by Noctro on Nov 5, 2010 10:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What we need is instant replay
so refs and linesmen can get a second look at hits like this and adjust their calls on the ice IF they feel it’s necessary. As Bakes kept saying last night, we all have the luxury of being able to see the hit over and over from multiple angles, where the zebras have one chance on the ice to see something and make a call.
What I’d like them to clarify most is why plays like this are punished while others, which are far more brutal, go seemingly unnoticed. Are they actually reviewing those and simply not saying anything? What makes a play reviewable in this case?
A clearer understand of their process won’t give all the answers, but it might explain why they can’t seem to be consistent in any outward way.
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No flags. The team challenging has to complete a short on ice obstacle course while in pink tutus before the video will be reviewed. They must also be shirtless.
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That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
I’ve love to see the red hanky fly onto the ice—you don’t know if it’s a challenge or someone sending a love note to a player :)
HAHA, if they did that, the games would have to start 30 to 45 mins before they do now to cover the extra time for replay. I think that would be getting even further from what the game is and the flow. Good point though
Replay is used to prove that a penalty occurred—did the guy trip on his own skates, or was he tripped by the opposing player? It wouldn’t work in this case—the question facing the refs was “did Thornton hit the guy’s head?” The answer is “yes”, so he gets the penalties. The suspension is unwarranted because the league doesn’t care about malice or intent—it’s just about showing the league (and more importantly, hacks like Adam Proteau) that “we’re serious about head hits—no really, we are!”
All you need to do is change Rule 48.1 as such:
“A lateral or blind-side check to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principle point of contact is not permitted.”
Incidental contact on a guy’s head is unavoidable. Intentionally checking a guy with your shoulder to his head should be punished.
I think this is pretty telling...
Taken from Jumbo’s comments on Sharks.nhl.com.
"I really don’t know how it could be perceived as a dangerous play on my part," Thornton said. "That is what I am confused about. Even Colin Campbell wasn’t on the conference call which was really strange. You kind of say your story and then they phone Doug Wilson to tell you if you got anything."
How is it that Colin Campbell didn’t even personally hear Joe’s statement? How is it that he didn’t feel the need to explain to Joe what he did wrong? How are we supposed to take his decisions seriously if he can’t manage to be transparent with the players involved?
Okay, gotta do this in fairness, after reading LeBrun’s article on the same topic, apparently Campbell was “in transit.” I have no idea what that really means or why he was, but I guess I can’t pin it all on him this time.
Still, the decision remains mysterious to me and I don’t get why they didn’t explain to Joe “look, here’s why you’re in trouble.” Other than the fact that they couldn’t; I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt on that.
The byproduct of Mr. Murphy's thought process on this one produces the effervescent smell of cow dung.
Presumably, this is circumstantial evidence of what he actually possesses for brains. Three problems here: 1) What is Joe supposed to do, let Perron simply dance by and receive the puck unabated for chance in the offensive zone? 2) Perron was skating forward WITH HIS HEAD TURNED NOT LOOKING WHERE HE WAS GOING in the neutral zone and Joe hit him from the front, not from the back or even from the side. Perron has to be responsible for looking where he’s skating, no? 3) As stated numerous times already by apparently more perceptive fans than dunghead Murphy, any head contact (and it was minimal here folks) was the product of relative size and not INTENT, 4) Perron’s flop to the ice, which was reminiscent of the kid on the playground who cried every time he was touched playing flag football, was clearly embellishment and rewards players for their INTENT to get others penalized disproportionately. Perron was fishing for a major immediately upon contact, and he got even more than he was asking for. So, I ask you, who should be suspended, the guy who intended to throw a clean hit, or the guy who intended to mislead the refs and make the hit look dirty, and is thus dishonest?
I don’t think Thornton had enough time to get out of the way, and maybe his only other option was to fall down and trip Perron. And I agree—Thornton was punished because he hit another player’s head, period. Malice and intent were irrelevant—all that mattered is “some dude got hit on the head, so he needs to be punished”. It’s important that we get the rule tweaked to check for malice so it no longer hands out blind justice for any hit to the head.
I’m fine with malice being irrelivent. I’m not fine with Joe being suspended for breaking a rule he didn’t break. It’s not his responsibility to make Perron not an idiot. If players want to skate through the neutral zone without looking they deserve to have their clocks cleaned and the 12 months of intense headaches that go with the concussion to really pound the point home. WATCH WHERE YOU ARE SKATING IN THE NHL.
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I love the idea of a video release explaining the reasoning underlying each suspension
Additionally, I don’t think that in-game video review of major penalties will disrupt the flow of the game significantly. Major penalties are pretty rare but when they do happen, they can dramatically effect the outcome of a game. They deserve due diligence.
Great idea, but if you think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell of it happening then I’ll have some of what you’re smoking. The NHL hates admitting mistakes, more than even the NFL. At least the NFL will do official review and occasionally cop to a bad call. The NHL almost never does that, and when it does it’s a blatantly terrible call (like allowing the Orr goal against Florida earlier this year). They do rescind major penalties sometimes (Letang’s hit on Bailey earlier this year), which is basically an admission of error, but I can’t see them doing something like this that.
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