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Which blueliner does Todd McLellan trust most to start in the defensive zone?

Marc-Edouard Vlasic has consistently been called upon for the bulk of the Sharks defensive zone starts during his career in San Jose.

Zone starts are always an interesting subject to look into, primarily because they tell us a lot about how Sharks Head Coach Todd McLellan views the components of his blueline. The methodology is fairly straightforward-- if a defenseman sees a lot of starts in his own end McLellan views him as a stopper, while a majority of starts in the offensive zone means he sees the guy as an offensive spark plug.

It's not an exact science by any means, especially when one considers the fluidity of hockey where changes on the fly are common place, but zone starts an essential part of the tool box for anyone wanting to take a deeper look into McLellan's playbook and highlight some players who see the tougher situations.

Marc-Edouard Vlasic has always been a player who sees a lot of defensive zone starts, which has contributed to the assertion that he is an underrated player across the league (as well as amongst the Sharks fanbase). Vlasic isn't known for his overpowering brute strength, something that guys such as Douglas Murray are lauded for. Instead, he relies upon positioning and deft stickwork to push attackers to the outside and manage the rush. It's something that he had trouble with during the early part of the season (carrying a -10 into November 24th's matchup against the Chicago Blackhawks), but a recent resurgence both offensively and defensively has contributed to a much more typical performance from Brine Time* in December, where he is a +4 despite his notoriously difficult assignments.

*I've been plugging this nickname hard the last two weeks. Learn to love it.

Niclas Wallin and Justin Braun have also seen the bulk of their faceoffs come in the defensive zone this year for San Jose, with Derek Joslin, Douglas Murray, and Dan Boyle all seeing more fortuitous opportunities in the offensive zone.

Here are the relevant numbers for all Sharks defenseman this season in respect to zone starts. I've also included totals from previous seasons for the relevant parties in order to provide a basis of comparison from season to season:


Defenseman Even Strength Defensive Zone Starts

Player
10-11 Dzone %
Rank
09-10 Dzone %
Rank
08-09 Dzone %
Rank
Justin Braun 57.6
1
-
-
-
-
Niclas Wallin
55.0 2
48.8
8
-
-
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
54.0 3
56.7
1
50.8
1
Kent Huskins 50.0 4
50.7
6
-
-
Jason Demers
49.5
5
51.3
5
-
-
Dan Boyle
48.6 6
48.2
9
43.9
7
Douglas Murray
45.3 7
48.9
7
44.3
6
Derek Joslin
41.8 8
55.2
2
-
-

Not a lot of surprises here from the big names-- as mentioned above, Vlasic has historically been a player McLellan turns to in the defensive end when the Sharks need to take care of the defensive side of the ice. He's the best defensive defenseman on the team, and is handled as such. Dan Boyle is an offensive dynamo who gets the best opportunity to showcase those talents on the team, receiving the majority of his faceoffs within the cozy confines of the attacking zone blueline. Douglas Murray, who is generally packaged together with Boyle throughout Sharks games, comes along for the ride despite being a decidedly mediocre offensive player.

What jumps out here is the amount of zone starts Justin Braun is seeing in the defensive end. 57.6% of his faceoffs are taken in front of Niemi or Niittymaki, meaning that there is an increased amount of pressure to win puck battles and take care of defensive responsibilities first. We saw the same thing last season with Derek Joslin, who despite being sheltered this year in terms of zone starts (41.8% in the defensive zone, last on the team) saw a second place finish on the team in twenty four games played.

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I've consistently compared Justin Braun to the 2009-2010 version of Jason Demers-- a player whose offensive talents make him an excellent addition to the team despite his defensive shortcomings. Braun has been on the bad end of some goals this year that can be directly attributed to his mental and physical errors, which is similar to the defensive zone giveaways we were witness to last season when Demers was on the ice. They're young defenseman with room to grow, and as Demers has shown, a season under the belt can work wonders for turning an offensive stalwart into a well-rounded player.

And yet Braun is being leaned on heavily by McLellan to do the dirty work defensively, at least in respect to getting his number called during situations the coach has the most control (faceoffs). I'm not quite sure I understand the rationale behind it-- you would think that a player of Braun's offensive caliber would see more time in the offensive zone, where mistakes are less damaging and situations are more conducive to shots on net.

The explanation is probably straightforward of course-- Braun has been paired with Niclas Wallin for the majority of games lately, and with the big Swedish defenseman earning both the coaches and fans trust as the season goes along, Braun is thrust into a position where chemistry trumps changing pairs on the fly. No position in the game of hockey requires more camaraderie than the one found between defensive partners, and ensuring that remains consistent as the season moves along is paramount.

However, I would like to see Braun and Wallin get more of a shot in the offensive zone moving forward. Both players have displayed flashes of firepower as of late, and ensuring Braun has the best chance to succeed in an area of the game that the organization desires of him (offense) seems to be in the best interest of the team. Giving Vlasic and Demers more responsibility defensively off of faceoffs is an effective solution, as both players have proven this season that they are ready to shoulder a bigger load in all assets of their game.

Is Braun being thrown to the wolves by McLellan? Not in the slightest-- his quality of competition numbers indicate as much, and his ice time has returned to much more manageable levels after a huge spike two weeks ago. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect him to see more fortuitous offensive chances on a nightly basis, no matter who his partner is on any given night.

This isn't a knock against Braun-- I think he's done as good a job as any could have predicted, and his offensive talents have produced some major dividends for the team.

But even when Braun was seeing 20+ minutes a game when the blueline was riddled with injuries, there's no reason he should be counted on to shoulder the faceoff zone start load when there are much stronger options at McLellan's disposal.

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Brine Time....

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by CloweFoSho on Dec 20, 2010 6:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

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by CloweFoSho on Dec 20, 2010 6:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Given that the book on Braun before his last year or so at UMass was that he was a defensive defenseman, I think he’ll turn out to be a little more defensive-minded than Demers, who I think will always be a little more Boyle-esque. That could make for a great pair down the road, though.

I wonder if they’re also betting on him eventually raising the defensive part of his game, either by increments or in a “ah-ha!” sort of moment, and are trying to induce it by putting him in the fire a bit. I don’t think that’s really a realistic expectation for this year, as he’ll probably have to do what Demers did and assess a way to come to next year quicker so he can keep up with the NHL game.

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by Auth0r on Dec 20, 2010 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

Also...

I just talk a lot and somehow accidentally say things that sound smart. It’s all smoke and mirrors, I tell ya.

by Auth0r on Dec 20, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

love it

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by ninakix on Dec 28, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Couple of questions about the numbers

As I’m not 100% familiar with the methodologies:

1.) Is there any bearing on the numbers due to enforced no changes due to icings?
2.) Do the measures include special teams scenarios, or are they strictly even strength numbers?

Essentially, I trust the numbers to tell most of the story, and as you say, it’s not an exact science. But do the numbers tell us anything about pairings that are being stranded due to icings, and do Braun’s numbers make sense as he’s not seeing the PP time he should? I imagine special teams have a lot to do with why Dan Boyle and Jason Demers are seeing so much ice time in the offensive zone. If you’re going to start only one d-man on a PP, you spend a lot of his minutes and his starts there.

Either way, I think you’re right about Braun. He’s a very pleasant surprise. And Demers is a good example for him. Before we all start ASSUMING he’s going to break out next year, it’s worth remembering that Demers worked very hard in the off-season on a self-identified issue (namely his skating weight and core strength) and worked the whole off-season with Mike Potenza on that issue. Also worth noting is Demers essentially patterned himself off of Dan Boyle. Hard to argue with that example.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 20, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

It says it’s only even strength at the top.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 20, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Reading is hard!

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 20, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you on the hard work caveat. Hopefully, the fact that he showed a strong work ethic at UMass and he advanced in ways that weren’t in his scouting report will be a good sign for his future and he’ll put the work in here.

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by Auth0r on Dec 20, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Like SFKnights said, even strength city is what we’re looking at. As for icings when on ice, they would be included in these numbers. I haven’t noticed any one pairing icing the puck more often than another, but it’s admittedly something I haven’t been looking for. A fair and astute point as always Elvis.

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 20, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to assume icings are relatively negligible contributors

And in my own memory, I haven’t noted one pairing or another being particularly guilty. And icings are more a low frequency high consequence type thing too I’d imagine. And icings are just as much a function of the forwards as they are of the defense.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 20, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Defensive pairings

I wonder if the high numbers for Braun this year, and Joslin last year, are related to McLellan wanting the rookies paired up with a defensively responsible veteran (Wallin this year, Vlasic last year). That would make sense, as it mitigates the risk of a mistake leading to a goal, and allows them to directly observe and play with a player who does the right thing most of the time.

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by ievans on Dec 20, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

It definitely does, and it makes sense to me as well from a development standpoint— pair a youngin’ with a veteran who can take him under his wing. But in that event (Braun-Wallin) I would think McLellan would rely more on his more experienced pairings to take more defensive zone draws, because as I mentioned below, Braun has been on the ice for the most goals against this season by a healthy margin.

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 20, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Braun

I think he’s getting the defensive zone faceoff time because he is a good puck mover, that was one of the first things I noticed about him. Getting the puck out of the zone efficiently is something this team is lacking and I think he was an instant upgrade in that department.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Dec 20, 2010 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

I agree with this— Braun is definitely an excellent puck mover, and outside of Boyle is probably the best San Jose has on the team in terms of carrying the puck through the neutral zone (Demers is very good as well). He’s a good guy to have back there if you want to move the puck up the ice.

But I look at his GF/GA on the ice at 5v5 and see a guy who toes the line between risk and reward every shift. He’s been on the ice for a lot of goals, but has been victimized in his own end as well— leads them team by far with 3.53 GA per 60 minutes. Getting him some more fortuitous situations (love that word today apparently) in the offensive zone where he doesn’t have to move the puck 200 feet seems like a better role for Braun right now.

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 20, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed that getting Braun in “more fortuitous situations” would be better for him, and probably the team as well right now. However, I can’t help but think that the experience he is getting playing in his defensive zone will be excellent for his development as an everyday defensemen in the NHL. Not sheltering him from the tough situations will make handling those situations easier when we get to the later parts of the season. Maybe TMac is realizing that having many guys who can handle defensive zone draws will be to his advantage.

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by sharks in oc on Dec 20, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice Article;

But you have to remember that Braun is not a 18 year old kid, he is 23 years old, a man by most standards. And most likely about two years away from reaching his potential skill level, its assumed that most NHL defensemen do not peak out skill wise until their mid twenties. What is happening to Braun is he is just catching up to the speed of the game, but he is physically ready to handle the NHL forechecking.

You can look at all the ridiculous stats, like GA per 60 mins. which is the dumbest thing next to plus minus rating. But if you know and understand hockey you can definitely see potential. What i’m intrigued about Braun is his poke checking ability, you will see once he gets better defensively, he will have a two way threat.

 I think its great that McLellan is throwing him out to with the sharks (no pun) because this shows the coaching staff what they got as far as blue chip prospects for trade, a 6th/7th/8th guy for the playoff run.

by OrangeJulius on Dec 20, 2010 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

Braun’s potential is intriguing, there’s no doubt about that. I have nothing but high hopes for him and think he can develop into a very good two way defenseman for the Sharks. He’s big, fast, one of the team’s best puck carrying defenseman outside of Boyle, and has some nasty offensive instincts.

But even with all of that, I don’t think he’s a guy who should be seeing the most defensive zone starts on the team. If you don’t believe in numbers that’s completely fine, but qualitatively, Braun has been on the wrong end of some bad plays in his own end. Part of the learning curve? Definitely. It’s something you accept because he gives you so much in other aspects of the game. I’m not writing him off as a player who won’t be able to turn into a two-way guy. I’ve been extremely pleased with his performance during the entire year. But it’s a tough sell to say that he’s the best option to take draws in the defensive zone considering the other pairings at McLellan’s disposal. First on the team is a lot for a player whose primary asset right now is his offensive talents.

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 20, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure why looking at stats wouldn't make anyone not understand hockey

Qualitative vs. Quantitative. If you watch the games, you’ll see Braun show lots of potential, while surrendering some awful goals against. Which is pretty much exactly what the numbers show.

Of course, arguing that stats are silly is a bit moot when it comes to the Sharks as they use advanced stats to draft promising prospects like Braun.

Going back to the Demers example, his defensive ability really came to the forefront when he worked on his strength and conditioning. I think you’re right about Braun catching up to the speed of the pro-game. He’s going to have to improve physically for a lot of his skills to be showcased at NHL speed as opposed to AHL speed.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 20, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

this shows the coaching staff what they got as far as blue chip prospects for trade, a 6th/7th/8th guy for the playoff run.

I’m a bit curious about this statement. Do you think it’s better to trade Braun or keep him and develop him? I think we had a bit of this debate in an earlier thread, but, in terms of spending “capital” (i.e. blue chip propsects, picks, etc.) I don’t know that I’d want to surrender them for anything other than a top-4 d-man, and if Braun COULD be a top-4 d-man with some development, I’d be hesitant to let him go at all, even if it means we don’t get the help we need this season.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 20, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm…not sure I can get behind Brine Time. Hell, I barely even used Pickles, so maybe nicknames just aren’t my style.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 20, 2010 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

You better get behind Brine Time, because it’s going to slowly and stealthily get behind you.

/Rogue’d

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 20, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Pickles may be a lousy gardener

But he sure knows how to use a hoe

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 20, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Innapropriate!

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by Matthew_Taylor on Dec 20, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The dangers of being in a dark camp.

I just talk a lot and somehow accidentally say things that sound smart. It’s all smoke and mirrors, I tell ya.

by Auth0r on Dec 20, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if we’re talking about this still, but I totally loved this article Plank, though I read it a bit late. So, I was wondering if we could see these numbers for Braun also because he has been playing pretty light minutes, and he had those high minutes during some tough games, and in general having fewer minutes makes the entire dataset more prone to random leanings this way or that way…. I don’t know if I’m communicating this well. Sigh. This is what happens when I try to be intelligent after long flights and jetlag :/

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by ninakix on Dec 28, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

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