What people have been saying on why Miller will win the Vezina..

by sharkzfan on Mar 15, 2010 4:56 PM PDT

Yeah... he might be the only obstacle to Nabby for winning the Vezina..

First off, the League says the Olympics and Playoffs do not influence the voting... but honestly, someone will remember Miller for his USA performance in the Olympics. I mean, can anyone really forget how he stood on his head till the very end?

Next thing is he is currently near the top at all the important goalie statistics (GAA, Wins, and SV%). He is currently second in GAA (currently at 2.16), seventh in wins at 37, and first in SV% (.931). The stats seem to line up in the favor of Miller, all of them except for wins (which Nabby almost always leads the league in...)

And the third reason is... well... Eastern Conference Bias. Looking at the past winners... how many times have the Western Conference won the Vezina Trophy? A shocking 3 times since the 1990-91 season. That's saying out of 18 seasons, the Western Conference won it 3 times. Sure there was Dominik Hasek... but still, facts are facts.

Yet, why should Nabby win? I mean, he seems to be "less superior" to Miller in stats and in the odds. So how can he win?

Can we say one thing? The Western Conference is MUCH SUPERIOR to the Eastern Conference in oh... everything except the Capitals... I'm not being mean or anything, but they stink as bad as rotten eggs. Washington currently has 101 points.. while second place, Pittsburgh, has 87 points (HEY! SID THE KID'S NUMBER!!!). San Jose is ahead by 2 points of Chicago, who is 5 points ahead of Vancouver.. a lot closer than 14 points...

Also, the Sharks seem to take less shots than the other teams. They really limit teams to not as many shots as they can (there are some exceptions), and seem to keep possession of the puck (not as of recently though).

And someone gave me the lame excuse that Miller was the reason why Buffalo is #3 in the East... well isn't Nabby one of the reasons the Sharks are #1 in the West?

Another side point, the MVP is "supposed" to go to the player that is the most valuable to his team... so then why the the most point getter almost always get it? I think a person like Patty should be nominated for it, cause well, he's just so great offensively and defensively (if Datsyuk wins the Lady Byng, I swear I would be dog-gone mad...)

Poll

Who do you think has a good shot at winning the Vezina?

Ryan Miller (BUF)

21 votes

Evgeni Nabokov (SJ)

7 votes

Ilya Bryzgalov (PHO)

2 votes

Martin Brodeur (NJ)

0 votes

Other

2 votes

32 votes | Poll has closed

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Done Deal

There is not a snowballs chance in Hedes that Miller won’t win the Vezina. Its a done deal.

by The Sear on Mar 15, 2010 5:08 PM PDT reply actions

Correct.

Even if he got hurt today, he would win the Vezina. Nabby would have to pitch 6 straight shutouts to come close, and I’m not sure they wouldn’t give it Bryzgalov anyway.

I love Nabby and this year has shown that last year was a fluke, but he will always be Cal Naughton Jr. to the east coast’s Ricky Bobby.

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by stufflife on Mar 15, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions

I love Nabby and this year has shown that last year was a fluke, but he will always be Cal Naughton Jr. to the east coast’s Ricky Bobby.

Heh, that is excellent.

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by Mr. Plank on Mar 15, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions

I knew if anyone got this, it would be you.

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by stufflife on Mar 15, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe Miller and Brodeur can get DQ’d. Then Nabby can go from 3rd to 1st!

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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 15, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Miller is on the inside track, but I think Vokoun should be getting more credit than he is currently. A lot of the pieces I have seen have not even gone so far as to mention Vokoun, and he is having an amazing season.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 15, 2010 8:50 PM PDT reply actions

Definitely agree. Vokoun always gets the shaft, and it’s pretty darn sad. Dude is world class.

by Mr. Plank on Mar 15, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions

The numbers in that article definitely convinced me. He might not have the most wins or best record, but he alone has kept Florida somewhat in it this season.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 15, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Shh, don’t give away my sleeper pick in fantasy hockey. That week he had two shutouts was AWESOME! Shhh.

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by stufflife on Mar 16, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions

The Sear is most definitely correct— Miller’s basically all but got it locked up.

I voted “Other” just because I think Vokoun should be in the picture, for the reasons I mentioned here.

by Mr. Plank on Mar 15, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions

I don’t think Nabby will even be in the top 3. Miller will be #1. Then I suspect Bryz will get a nod, as will Brodeur (because of the career achievements he’s gotten this year, right or wrong). As good as Nabby has been, I suspect the same bump Miller will get from the Olympics, Nabby will get in the opposite direction from his game against Canada.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 15, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions

Nabokov

Nabby will not, and should not be nominated to win the Vezina! The two shoe-ins that have been most valuable to their teams/best goaltender in the laegue are Miller and Bryzgalov! Without a doubt! The third candidate in my opinion will be either Vokoun or Howard…although Brodeur could round out the top three…

by Vondy on Apr 2, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions