Trade Deadline Thread
by Mr. Plank on Mar 3, 2010 3:00 AM PST
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Deadline: Noon PST. Trades trickle through for a couple hours afterward due to backup at the league office though; keep your eyes peeled.
Tracker: TSN has a good breakdown of all the news that can be found here.
Use this post for all comments concerning the various stuff you are hearing, and as always, please bring a link to the table if you are discussing rumors and/or announcing trades.
FTF Trade Target Articles
The Pursuit for a Defenseman Reignited
Does San Jose make a deal? I really have no idea. It's hard to read Doug Wilson and I'm not about to start today.
Frankly, the trade deadline gives me a headache. I enjoy all the speculation and everything, but at some point I just want to watch the team that is going to take the ice during the 2010 playoffs. Finally focus on hockey and leave all the other stuff on the backburner.
For better or worse, that starts today.
Go Sharks.
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I want....
Kaberle
Huskins should definitely be what goes the other way with whatever else we would need to give up.
Dude, lemme getchur keys.
Ridiculous Sharks rumors over at Blueshirt Banter...
Saying the Sharks are in serious discussions to trade Seto or Pavs to the Rangers. For Dubinsky.
I can not wait for this to be over.
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Just heard Darren Dreger throw San Jose into the Dan Hamhuis speculation mix
(after discussing David Poile backing off making the trade with the Flyers) “There are some who think, of a connection perhaps in some way, shape, or form, with the San Jose Sharks.”
This comment is pretty ambiguous, but it is interesting considering the proposed 3-way trade for Coburn that was posted yesterday…
They also go on to mention how SJ has good young players in McGinn, Ferriero, McLaren and Couture in the system but haven’t solidified a spot for cap space reasons
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
ESPN seems to think the Wooster Shuttle is the playoff plan for San jose
Couture’s name is getting tossed around like he’s the second coming of Jesus.
because he is.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 8:32 AM PST reply actions
Aaron Ward to Anaheim for Justin Pogge and a 4th round pick [link]
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With Seidenberg out of the mix, who remains a viable candidate for the Sharks to acquire?
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 8:54 AM PST reply actions
Not many out there. Hearing the Sharks are involved in Hamhuis somehow, but don’t know in what capacity.
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by TCY on Mar 3, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know much about him, but what would he bring to the Sharks?
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 9:01 AM PST reply actions
Reply fail, sorry.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
Big physical d-man. Don’t think the Sharks are in FOR him though. Look to above comment. Dreger reporting that Sharks may be involved as 3rd team.
"There are some who think, of a connection perhaps in some way, shape, or form, with the San Jose Sharks."
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by TCY on Mar 3, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Gotcha.
Sorry, misread. Interesting that it could be a three way deal. I wonder if a deal goes down if roster players or picks come our way and in exchange for what.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t have much, if any, confidence that we’ll make any moves. I’d like to think DW is aware of the gaping holes on defense, but the players that it would hurt most to trade yet would net the greatest player in return, i.e. our superstar players, are too valuable in terms of making a run for the Cup. The more fringe players that it would make sense to trade, like Clowe, I feel haven’t performed this season to the degree where teams would be willing to take them off our hands for anywhere near a premiere shutdown d-man.
I guess one last possibility is that the other GMs have wised up to the fact that DW has essentially committed highway robbery with his past trades, and are now more wary of any packages he brings to the table.
I thought the same thing the last couple of years as well, and yet here was DW still moving players.
Although with Heatley splash last summer, and acquiring Walin, I think it’s likely that we’re done.
Huricanes trade Walker to Capitals [link]
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Fear The Fin trades TCY to Hockeybuzz for future considerations [link].
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Ouch.
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by TCY on Mar 3, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Shipped for a bag of pucks, that has to hurt.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I thought I had a NMC. Clearly stated that list of accepted blogs was hockeysfuture and icanhazcheezburger
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Californians everywhere will boo you for not accepting a trade to BoC.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I didn’t feel like I’d get enough minutes. Wanted to go somewhere that they would appreciate my leadership abilities.
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Really don't see the value in this trade
I know TCY isn’t having his best year, but is idunno728 really our answer?
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FTF is getting robbed
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
idunno728 is tearing it up in juniors (comments), but I don’t see his skillset being at an SBnation level for awhile.
prospect rank: C+
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Wrong number bitch
"I think people were ready to watch some hockey. We took up enough of everyone’s time."
-Jody Shelley after 87 seconds of hockey fighting against Cam Janssen
Who are you?
TOTALLY INVISBLE!
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cellophane!
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
NOW I’M GOING TO HAVE THAT SONG IN MY HEAD AGAIN
A human being’s made of more than air
With all that bulk, you’re bound to see him there
Unless that human bein’ next to you
Is unimpressive…undistinguished….you…know… whooooo…
.
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Mar 3, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
mahahaha sowwiee.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
I notice no one reported this here
but CouchTarts traded Mina for lower bowl seats and free nachos.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
LOL!
Poor Mina!! It’s OK we’ll keep her warm UP HERE!!! HIIII GRAY DOWN THERE
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Lower Bowl Seats??? AND FREE NACHOS! Man, good trade!
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Gray failed to mention
She had to send back a gameday program though. Those programs are key. They’re collectible, like 5th round draft picks.
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Phoenix trades Peter Mueller and Kevin Porter to Colorado for Wojtek Wolski [link].
Phoenix just got a lot better. There’s that scoring forward they wanted.
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Really liked Mueller and his work ethic. Running out of time for a D man RW!
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Please tell me this is sarcasm.
We’re throwing a fucking bbq send-off.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
Last year he got hot after the all star break. This year he is busted more then Logan.
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Mueller seemed like most of your young prospects
He had potential, but was wasted under a bad coach.
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Is that a slight at Sommer? Or RW? I’m confused and I think my sickness is getting to me….
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Mueller = phoenix
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
Oh I read that wrong, I thought he said OUR prospects. I am a ritard, apologies all around.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
He was lazy
and a dickhead.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, really? I’m surprised the Avs were willing to give up Wolski when they are competing for the division. Maybe they’re tired of his inconsistancy.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
reply fail.
I was talking about Mueller.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 9:58 AM PST reply actions
In funny Eklund news of the day:
He says don’t be surprised if Owen Nolan goes back to San Jose. It reminded me of that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull article TCY wrote and that it would be a bad idea to bring him back.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:07 AM PST reply actions
I like Nolan
He’s cuddly.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions
Every time I hear 'Eklund', I think of this:
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:12 AM PST reply actions
DW must have slept in today
"Hopefully we won't have too many more of these losses. I like winning games." Joe Thornton
"WOW, he's totally hosed" Rob Blake
Only if you expected him to do anything. I really think Wallin was his target this trade deadline…
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Most of the trades are always done in the last 30 minutes.
Still plenty of time to ship Joe “No Show” Thornton.
wow Ivano you made me combustably cry…
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Joe Thornton for Marco Sturm again?
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, ship off No Show and whatever draft picks we have left for Owen. His Britannia Arms has gone to shit. He needs to come back and fix it.
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Historically
Trades at the deadline by Doug Wilson are reported very late.
He’s EXTREMELY methodical. And, he’s never NOT looking to make a trade.
For reference, the Travis Moen deal from last season wasn’t reported for like 3 hours after the deadline.
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Why are we not robbing Edmonton blind?
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:18 AM PST reply actions
I think after the Heatley deal, Canadian teams are afraid of trading with Doug Wilson.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Who from Edmondton would you want?
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Only one of them, but
Hemsky, gagne, Horcoff, Souray.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
All those guys have some nasty cap hits.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Hemsky has one of the most beautiful contracts in the league.
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Isn’t Hemsky on IR?
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah. I’d still trade for him.
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He’s 4+ I realize it’s a good deal, but it’s a good deal we don’t have room for unless they take Clowe and Huskins off our hands. Even then we have 2 roster spots we have to fill now since he is on IR.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Since he’s on the LTIR, I think we could make the trade without having to give up any salary. Wouldn’t play this year. But yeah.
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btw, totally don’t think this is realistic at all.
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Edmonton is basically begging to get robbed right now
it’s like a public plea on NHl Network, and everyone is fair game. We could get Souray for a can of lime-flavored shaving cream.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM PST reply actions
Canucks trade Schneider to Coyotes [link]
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In the ESPN rumor chat, Lebrun says:
spoke to Sharks front office source two hours ago and they said it was pretty quiet for them after making Wallin deal. They like their kids pushing in Demers and Couture, etc… I suspect they might do something if it’s a great bargain but otherwise stay put
Is this one of the first times DW has not made a trade on deadline day?
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions
Wallin was practically a deadline deal. Still wish we had waited for Grabeshkov if that’s all we were doing.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
True, but I meant on the deadline day. I agree about Grebeshkov from what I have heard about him. If we could give up the same for him that we gave up for Wallin, DW should have waited to pull the trigger.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
IN RUSSIA PLAYERS DEAL YOU
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
In Russia, posts soooooo rec'd you
If you say don’t do it, only makes you want to do it more @soooooooo
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
At the risk of angering the Shark's media relations department
re: Niklas Wallin
“He’s a winner.”
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Lightning trade Jeff Halpern to Kings [link]
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From GenoRedaTSN
Kaberle Says he has an agreement with Burke … That Burke will tell him what the offers are for his consideration
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Staios?
hmmmm
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:40 AM PST reply actions
OT but does anyone have a link to a pic of nabbys new mask?
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"WOW, he's totally hosed" Rob Blake
check out sharkie’s twitter page or his FB page he just posted them this morning :)
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
twiiter.com/sjsharkie
? I don’t know. I’m not 5. :(
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Here dumdum
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=151812&id=29107513801&l=fa2cb5e145
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"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I made a fanpost just for you, sunshine.
Now we can all ogle nabby’s mask and add photos as they come in, instead of coming back here to look at a stuffed doll’s website.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Aren’t you just the sweetest man alive…girls in AZ are so lucky
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, GIRLS EEEVVEEERYYWHEEREE
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Eric Belanger from Minny to Washington for a second round pick. [link]
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Weird...
The Caps need blueline help, and, unlike us, actually have the cap space to make something happen. Why do they keep adding forwards?
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
BECAUSE THEY HAVE 'CAPS" SPACE
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Groan…
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Pierre McGuire and Panger are getting into it on the TradeCentre feed. May the baldest man win!
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 10:46 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
DW will not pass up any reasonable opportunity to make this team better.
I go back to the first post. Clowe is wildly inconsistent to get that type if money and be playing third line mins.
Clowe + Staubitz/Huskins for Kaberle. I can’t think Burke doesn’t like Clowe. He loves those hard nosed physical guys.
I’d also give up an exchange of picks too if the cap fit. Like giving up a 1st for a 2nd and Clowe. Or some combo.
by skilletboy on Mar 3, 2010 10:53 AM PST via mobile reply actions
1 hour left
"Hopefully we won't have too many more of these losses. I like winning games." Joe Thornton
"WOW, he's totally hosed" Rob Blake
Flames have traded Curtis McElhinney to the Ducks [link]
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Looks like Toskala, LOLZ, went the other way.
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Nope
I figured he played 1 game, but Hiller covered all the bases pre-Olympic break.
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Mar 3, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
at least he got another mask to add to his collection.
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
He'd just gott all of he blue out of his uniform too.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Daryl Sutter is bonkers. I don’t think he even knows what he is doing anymore.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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He seriously has a problem with ex-Sharks. Get him into rehab.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Dwight Helminen and Jason Demers have been sent back to Worcester, BTW.
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Last day of the salary cap shuffle, thank God.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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I'm imagining the scene
DW’s office. It’s quiet. The door is closed. Staff walking by only know he’s in the office because the blue glow of tanning lights escapes from under his door.
The phone rings, but it’s not for a trade, It’s William Shatner. Apparently Shatner could have gotten him better seats on his flight home from Vancouver with Priceline.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
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by Morti on Mar 3, 2010 11:12 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
+1
freaking hilarious!
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
HAHAHA
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Mar 3, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Raffi Torres traded to Buffalo [link]
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Don’t you love this part of the day…where every single player we’ve all thought would look good in Teal get shipped off to other teams? Ahhhhh…delightful :-/
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Some pure speculation on my part
One of the interesting aspects of the Wallin deal for me, was that it was done before the Olympic Break, and allowed for the “mini-camp” to be held back here in San Jose.
I wonder if that makes Doug Wilson LESS likely to make a deal now, because he wanted anyone he acquired to be given a chance to aclimate to the team during the break.
On the one hand, yes, new face does get more time to get meshed in, but on the other, you miss out on other teams getting desperate, like Florida deciding to have a fire sale.
Anyway, food for though.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Hamhuis news is quiet. Too quiet.
The type of quiet that envelops a trade rumor when DW is on the hunt.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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I like Hamhuis a lot— probably a rental though, which makes trading Clowe shitty in that aspect.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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I’m really tired of rentals these days. Though, losing Clowes contract may be a blessing in disguise.
Then again, we’ll just overpay for somebody else this summer and be back in the same boat.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Feel ya on rentals, feel ya on overpaying. Malhotra was really the only good FA signing DW has had in awhile in terms of bang for the buck.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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I like Nichol a lot. But he’s not a bargain, really. Guys like him make 700 K across the league.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Yeah, but Malhotra like signings very rarely ever happen…except in Detroit. He took significaltly less for a shot at a Cup…but players like that aren’t typical.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Right…. what I’m saying is that was one of the only good FA signing DW has had in terms of bang for the buck.
Turning down 4 yrs at 2 M per to play for one year at 700 K is obviously not typical.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Yeah, but I wouldn’t discount Nichol as a good bang for the buck signing. Even if players like him make what he’s making typically, we’ve still definately gotten our money’s worth out of him…even if it isn’t a huge steal like Malhotra.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Nichol was an average signing in terms of production. I like him, good player, good asset on the fourth line. But he’s a fourth line center, produces as such, and is paid as such.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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On FAs coming to San Jose
In the pre-cap world, San Jose could never compete with the elite clubs in terms of contracts offered.
And with the pressure to win now, only recently has ownership been willing to spend at the pace they are now. But even then, the bulk of the team’s money has gone to Thornton, Marleau, Heatley, Nabby and Boyle.
I think the Sharks have not had significant leverage to sign FAs, and as such, to get real production out of them. The Sharks would virtually HAVE to overspend.
I think this is why Niedermayer and Pronger did not arrive in Teal when they were on the move. And, given a certain conversation I had with a certain someone, I think I’m not just pulling this out of my ass.
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I still think Steve Nash (Manny’s bro-in-law) had some impact on him coming to the Bay Area. But yeah, having Steve Nash as your brother-in-law isn’t very typical I guess.
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
Think he might sign with us somewhere in the neighborhood of $2.5M?
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I think he gets at least 3 M for 4 years or so. He’s in his prime (27?) and probably wants to cash in.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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$3M is about right for him
But it would also pretty much guarantee Rob Blake walks. Would you take Manny Malhotra on the second line and Jamie McGinn on the third line next season with Malhotra making about $2M?
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I would most definitely sign Malhotra for 2M, especially if Blake walks (or signs for cheap) and Clowe is moved.
I love Malhotra.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Blake for $1M or less on the third pairing
Is actually decent in my books. I know he’s old and slow, but as a mentor of sorts to Huskins, and a physical presence that allows him (or Demers) to do what they do best, which is play the puck, seems like a good bet. Plus, love it when he joins the rush, which’d probably be easier for him in limited minutes.
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If we expect him to play only 16-18 minutes a night on the 3rd pair and only pay him 1 mil I’m fine with it. He’s just too old for anything more.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Hell, let’s roll 7 D Olympic style and just have him bomb from the powerplay for six minutes a night.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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And who knows if he would sign with San Jose. He really likes Nashville, but money talks of course.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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True
But if you like Nashville, you’ll like San Jose methinks. We’re a contender, and our chicks don’t have to sing country to be hot.
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Well
They don’t call it Man Jose for nothin…
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
True
But I figure being an NHL stud makes it easier to get chicks than being, you know, me.
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PSH nerds rule!
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Everyone who comes out here, unless they are a douchebag, seems to like San Jose. If DW is willing to resign him (should a trade happen), he’d probably consider staying.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I just don’t count on anything like that. Too many variables.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Truth.
But such is the case with all pending UFAs.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
So
My current form of self entertainment involves going to hockeybuzz, scrolling through the trade rumor board, looking at all of the ones reported by ‘eklund’ and laughing at how wrong they all are.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
That's almost as bad
as reading Twilight
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Oh hell no...
don’t drag Twilight into this!
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t decide which one of the two should be insulted by the connection.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
probably me because I just made myself the easiest target in this joint.
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
He might kill you for saying that…but I do own it in real life I just can’t believe I admit it on here…twice.
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
thanks :D
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Not gonna lie. I love Star Wars.
Fear the Fin: Sharing Joe Thornton's love of wooly mammoths since 2009.
Yeah, me too. I’ve even read a lot of the books.
Right now I’m a big George R.R. Martin fan… Game of Thrones got picked up by HBO, 10 episodes ordered for next Spring.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Been thinking about starting up that series. It’s worth it?
by sharks in oc on Mar 3, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Emphatically: Yes!
Best book series I’ve read… if only he’d finish.
The first one starts kinda slow, but once it picks up the series never slows down.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Awesome. I may give it a shot next time I have a chunk of time.
by sharks in oc on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
The first one starts kinda slow, but once it picks up the series never slows down.
That’s the exact definition of LOTR.
Just sayin’.
I almost put it down the first time I read it. But, I stuck with it, and I pretty much lost the ability to speak with women or be taken seriously in life.
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I thought the 1st book was a good opener
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been a big fan of Terry Goodkinds – Sword of Truth, and Robert Jordan’s- Wheel of Time. I just got George R.R. Game of Thrones and was gonna start it soon.
You are in for a treat!
I would also put David Eddings with that list
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
I'll throw my nerd credentials out there
I’ve read Narnia and LOTR upwards of 50 times each.
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Still can’t make it through the council sequence in LOTR… just can’t do it.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Before the council
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Yeah, I went there
Then again, cleolinda’s recaps of Twilight are quite possibly the funniest things ever.
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I’d think that would get old after a while.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno
Laughing at stupidity never gets old for me. It just is usually also accompanied by weeping for humanity. That can be a bit tiring.
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trade deadline
I will be sincerely disappointed if DW does nothing here. He is crazy if he thinks our D will do the trick.
We are a bit handcuffed by our salary situation
With Blake coming off the books at the end of this season, for sure look for Wilson to do something.
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Sabres ship Clarke McArthur to Thrashers [link]
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Cy your in there to eh? Notice how they dont answer my questions…
by Born&RaisedInSJ on Mar 3, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions
No money there. Chat rumors will always involve big markets, draws more page hits, more ad revenue etc.
It’s why you will rarely see ATL-PHX rumors.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Us West Coast hockey fans are too knowledgable
We don’t get boners everytime we hear a trade rumor. The money to be made in the world generally involves giving men boners.
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Just nothing going on right now today, leaguewide really. Maybe we get some squeekers.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
On that note, Milan Jurcina traded back to the Caps [link].
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Not exactly the blueline help they needed…
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
To say the least.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Haha, yeah, saw that. I have no idea what the Caps are doing…
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
9 mins left?...
Getting very nervous. Maybe Dw will pick up some scragglers just like last year for some draft pics just like moen and huskins…
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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did we look like shit last night to you guys?
After watching the olympics the sharks looked like shit.. esp joe thornton. Wish Dw would trade him right now. and clowe
by orneryeric on Mar 3, 2010 11:59 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
good one!
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
uh huh. trade away the number 1 setup guy on a team with elite scorers. i expect this trade to squeak in any second.
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
Very well, let's trade Joe Thornton
What would you like to get for him and his NTC?
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There’s the blueliner they needed. Corvo is a good pickup for them.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
After Hamhuis wasn’t available, seems like Corvo was the only legit UFA Dman left.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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That was available.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Agreed. And, when healthy, I actually really like Corvo. He should fill in the Caps’ hole on the blueline pretty well.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
God, now all I’m going to read about is how great the Caps are….except for their goal tending.
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt that…the Caps get surprisingly little overall press. Just OV press.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
CBS/ Sportsline – Everyone is on the Caps jock. Yes, they are great. Yes, they have fire power. Yes, they have more depth even without OV8. But after Russia’s early departure from the Olympics, it was very very quiet for all those Ovechkin supporters.
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m an OV supporter, and yes, he played like shit in the Russia-Canada game…but so did his entire team! OV will be great in the playoffs, like always. His team is pretty stacked. The Caps are in really good shape if Varlamov finds his groove again…
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
TSNBobMcKenzie: Stempniak to Phoenix for draft picks. [LINK]
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
Phoenix with some smart trades.
very impressed.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:13 PM PST reply actions
Wolski and Stempniak will help out their scoring quite a bit, methinks.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, as if it wasnt hard enough for the Sharks to beat phoenix as it is
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Phoenix looks sick after today. I really like what they did.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Well, aside from Schneider
We just got ourselves a Rob Blake.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
which reminds me.
Do I have to take a shot every time I say his name?
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Odinmercer will never take me to another 'Yotes game again.
Oh well. It’s noon somewhere.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
From the ESPN live chat...
Pierre LeBrun: The Columbus Blue Jackets have sent winger Fredrik Modin to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for a conditional draft pick, team sources have confirmed to ESPN.com.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
HAHAHA
There are DW haters? This is one of the best GM’s in all of professional sports. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Back when i used to actually read the comment on WTC, I noticed a lot of DW bashers.
I don’t get it, why does everyone want a trade so badly? is it just out of sheer boredom? B/c that sounds like a great reason to me…
They congregate there it seems.
Also, people want a trade because they believe we are weak on defense. I tend to agree with that assessment.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I understand that
but it’s not like we’re horrible with what we’ve got now. People are acting like if we don’t pick up another D-man we’re automatically gonna fail.
It's trade deadline day
It’s the last possible day to fill a perceived hole.
I don’t think we’re automatically going to fail, the US almost beat Canada and on paper their defense was pathetic on comparison. We have to play the game.
Still, I would have liked to looked better on paper going into the 2nd season.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
With a cap structure like ours
I honestly don’t see how we could make a splash.
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He already made deals that they were satisfied with, and there is still a chance a deal comes in.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Did you really only sign up here today to bash on Thornton and Wilson? Because if so, you probably aren’t going to find any sympathetic ears in this crowd.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
he sure did..pot stirrer…
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously?
We’re giving DW the boot because he didn’t make a deadline trade?
What were you expecting him to do?
I assume if he had waited until today to make the Wallin trade everyone would be satisfied right?
So it appears DW made no deals today.
Not yet sure what to think about his assumption that Wallin is the answer to our lack of defensive depth. But I was hoping to see more moves.
We'll trade draft picks for some SPF30
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Or a tanning booth….
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
There's this button
Called the reply button. Try it :) Organization is awesome.
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Use the +reply button, it makes it easier to follow.
Juan is a link to a baseball player, my name is Marcello.
Not, of course not, because I am not an idiot.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Use logic and reason to defend your assertion that DW should be fired and Thornton should be traded and there won’t be any problems.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
He’s a bum, he’s a choke.
Simple.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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If doug wilson thinks wallin is the answer he should be gone. If he thinks vlasic is going to come back from injury and play a few games and be ready for a playoff he’s a moron. Thornton doesnt try hard and when he does hes got to leave the ice cause hes so tired. I wouldnt be angry when i lose either if i was him cause i get paid 7 mil a year and live in a mansion can you blame the guy?
Who would you take instead?
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basically anyone who performs well in the playoffs. there is more than one play making center in the NHL besides JT, and they probably actually shoot. and when they shoot they dont hit the post
Short list
None of them are available.
We got Joe by a lot of blind dumb luck and poor decision making on Boston’s part. You don’t get number one centers in trades unless something seriously wonky happens, and you don’t trade number one centers unless the sky is falling.
If you’d like to see Joe Thornton traded, you’re pretty much limited to fantasy hockey. If you would like to see him allowed to walk and someone else signed in his stead, that’s a possibility, but you have to wait a season for his contract to be up.
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Hahaha…trying to talk logic. Silly Elvis…
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
I'm an engineer
I’m obligated to either dazzle people with brilliance or baffle them with BS.
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I work with engineers. It’s my job to call them out on their BS, or make their brilliance legible to the masses :-P
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
business analyst?
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
by ang6666 on Mar 3, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, I’m more on the writing side of things.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
whoa me too!
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
howd you get into that? I wanted to break into that field.
by ilooklikeafat16 on Mar 3, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
I got an internship in college doing editing, and that led to being hired after I graduated.
If you want to become a tech writer, first of all, work on your writing. If you’re in college, being a humanities major will do this. Then, and this is important, take a few programming classes so you can read code (and if you can also program, you’re golden).
I like it because there’s a part of me that likes to geek out, but I’m also writing.
My hockey knowledge has just been enlightened.
How sage.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Vlasic is not going to play just a few games, but according to the plan it was 10-15 games before the playoffs. I think that would give him plenty of time to get in the rythym.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention salary to bring someone else in
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Thornton doesnt try hard and when he does hes got to leave the ice cause hes so tired.
The bolded part pretty much describes every hockey player ever.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Really? Joe Thornton gets tired after a hard 15-20 second shift? Then why is he out on the NHL’s second-best PK, then? Why does he get over 20 minutes a game?
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Don’t feed the trolls. This will never end…
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
My alternative is to work
This is more fun
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Yeah
I have to work on homework if I didn’t do this. Try to pound sense into a rock is much more amusing.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Fair enough, on both counts. I’m at work too, so I know how it goes.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
His puck management has not been good this season
But he is not alone. This is a team wide problem. Everyone from Dan Boyle to Ryane Clowe has been guilty of turnovers.
Trading Joe Thornton does not solve our puck management problems.
At the risk of bringing down the wrath of everyone else here, this is actually something I think Todd McLellan should shoulder some blame for. I don’t think he should be fired, but the honeymoon is over. Passing is a fundamental, and the team has been awful in that regard. There is far too much skill on the team for this to be such a consistent problem. Practice time should be devoted to it.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Hey, no need to sound like a douche when bringing up your points man. If the NHL fired every GM that didn’t get his team to the Cup then there would be 28 open jobs every season. Do you have any better ideas? Trade 19 for who? Hire who to replace DW?
DUDE
He said “broski”. Clearly he’s just being casual-cool. Next he’s going to play some extreme hacky.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I'm sorry,
I pictured a guy with a soul patch and wearing an Ed Hardy shirt talking…. I’m prepared to listen now with an open mind.
I just pictured
Murray hitting Perry’s Gif and it satisfied my need to bash my head into the screen.
then you should love this (audio is NSFW and loud)
by PNK on Mar 3, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
When you talk, do people just smile condescendingly and nod?
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Yes, but Thornton is a set-up man, in the sense that he tries to make amazing passes so others have a really good chance to score a goal. And, more often than not, the pass goes through and the recipient either scores a goal, gets a really good scoring chance, or whiffs on the puck. He’s allowed to have giveaways because otherwise, there wouldn’t be those sweet scoring chances.
Plus, he backchecks like crazy when he gives the puck away. Is that a sign of a bad, lazy player?
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
LOL
I said logic and reason. Wilson has put together one of the best teams in hockey for 6 years running now. He’s orchestrated fleecing after fleecing of premiere NHL players all while still developing young talent. But fuck all that, he traded for Wallin and that wasn’t enough. Do you even know the status of the Sharks available salary cap?
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
look marcell,
Believe these thoughts didnt come to me over night. I would have never believed he was the problem. but come on are you satisfied with having the best regular season team for the past 6 years? what are we the hartford whalers?
No one is satisfied
But scapegoating Joe solves very little. Joe Thornton gets shut down in the playoffs? It happened to Sidney Crosby too. Guess what, Evgeni Malkin had the playoffs of a lifetime and Maxime Talbot was a hero.
And again, WHO ARE YOU GOING TO TRADE HIM FOR?
I don’t mean to sound rude, but, we stole Joe Thornton. Are we going to just give him away?
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I hear you
I am not ok with giving him away. Hopefully we would get alot in return.
who is our max talbot? Manny m? that would be nice. what about our defense? Dan boyle cant do it all himself. Murray is great but not when d boyle is our only puck mover
Yes
Because, unlike you, I realize how much luck is involved in the postseason and how difficult it is to win there. The GM’s job is to put together the best team possible, which is most evident in the regular season when sample size isn’t a massive issue.
The fact of the matter is, pretty much every single NHL player is clutch. They wouldn’t have made it this far if they weren’t.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
And you're 0 for 2 on figuring out my name
Doesn’t bode well for your perceived intelligence.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Yeah, and I don’t think he’s figured out that I’m a girl yet, judging by the earlier “broski.” But your’s is funnier.
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YOU'RE A GIRL!!!!??!?!?
j/k
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
though if you did...
you’d also learn she’s a usc fan. WHYYYYYYY????
Because I go to USC, that’s why.
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Hey, Stanford is the second school I root for (my parents both went there), so it’s not like I’m completely evil.
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Really?
Really? You think rooting for Stanford would make you LESS evil?
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...Yes?
Because I’ve been rooting for them throughout their sucky football team phase?
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Fair enough
I tell people this:
Cal vs. Stanford, the average neutral NorCaler will root for Cal.
Cal vs. UCLA, the average neutral NorCaler roots for Cal.
UCLA vs. Stanford, the average neutral NorCaler roots for UCLA.
It’s just more fun to hate on private schools that wear red.
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I’m with you mymclife. I usually root for Stanford since my college didn’t have D1 sports.
by Quid Pro Clowe on Mar 3, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
My school didn’t have D1 sports either. However, oddly enough, I tend to cheer for Texas.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I absolutely despise Cal. Didn’t even apply there when applying to schools. I’m probably in the minority on that, though, which I’m totally okay with.
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Sorry
You must have realize i just started watching hockey yesterday. You caught me! I had no idea how hard it is to win in the playoffs shame on me.
Also I wrote marcell on purpose cause you were so disgusted i got your name wrong the first time.
alright now….which Fear the Finner regular thought it’d be funny to create a new screen name to screw with us on trade day?? Come on now…who are ya really?? :P
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I gotta say, I’ve been reading this long dialogue between you and a few other people, and it sure seems like FTF is not making much room for dissenting opinions.
I don’t agree with your position, but I’m not sure that thinking DW should be fired and JT traded is grounds for being considered a troll.
i know FTF seems to have these widespread opinions that almost everybody agrees with (Dan Boyle = stud, Patty Marleau = true captain, etc.), but i think we should be more welcoming of different view points.
Maybe I’m over-reacting and being unfair (no one has reduced to name-calling or anything like that), but I think we could all stand to be a little more open-minded and a little less condescending.
by PNK on Mar 3, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking personally
I’m just kind of a dick when someone posts something that is completely inane with no logical backing. If your argument is just, “Wallin wasn’t enough of an acquisition, DW should be fired,” you deserve to be called on it.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Coming onto a Sharks blog with blanket statements like “Joe Thornton is awful, trade him today DW or you should be fired” (paraphrasing) isn’t a great way to get people to listen to you. Now, if you say, hey, Joe Thornton should be traded, maybe bring in for him, it would improve us like this… well, we might listen and discuss it with you.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
stfu
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Vishnovsky to Anaheim for Whitney per TSN.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 12:31 PM PST reply actions
Man, it seems our entire division made trades to better themselves except the Sharks. Guess that’s what happens when everyone is chasing you.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
That’s true. Even Dallas got a potential goalie of the future. Who knows though, a deal could slip in.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah man, it sucks. We’re gonna need Clowe and Seto to start playing up to their potential, consistently.
A certain someone who I shall not name
Agrees with you
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As many times as I can
It’s pretty much the greatest thing that ever happened to me.
Also, he said so many interesting things, and they all pertained to everything we’ve been talking about all season.
I feel so bad for the original post, but I really want to be able to discuss it in some way with the folks here.
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I missed the post
so these little drops here and there are very interesting to me, thanks!
by PNK on Mar 3, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
The Pacific Division is freakin' ridiculous
So much talent and skill. And last I checked (before the Olympics), the Pac teams combined for the most points, with all in contention. But that largely goes unnoticed throughout the season.
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by SwisherThresher on Mar 3, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone else smell the Ducks making a serious playoff push?
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i smell coyote more than duck
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
Coyotes are like a four seed already though.
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I didn’t, but after they dropped Whitney and picked up Lubo, I’m not so sure.
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I really like Lubo
Bummed he’s now a DUCK.
Youtube. 30sec mark+
Coookies?
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by SwisherThresher on Mar 3, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
OT
did anyone feel a slight tremor just now
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
Yes
More than just a bit slight.
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I did. It was pretty small…
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not an earthquake… that’s an earthfart
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by Evilducks on Mar 3, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, about what I expected. It was really small.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
That was the hockey gods sending a message to Doug Wilson to hurry the fuck up and deal Kent Huskins
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by Will Bulldozer on Mar 3, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
but it happened after 3pm EST
hockey gods were too slow
Scott Nichol re: his US-born son: He was all about Canada. He’s only six so I can manipulate him pretty good.
Puck Daddy: You would definitely hate the Ducks more than you'd hate the Kings, right?
Joe Pavelski: Yeah, definitely.
I prefer to think
They were more upset that Anaheim would dare try and crawl out of the hole they’ve been thrown into for being the Ducks.
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Ok, phew
Thought it was just me – I looked to see if the kids noticed it, but they were busy doing group work, plus they’re used to janitors stomping around on the roof above our room.
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Mar 3, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
You might be going crazy…but feeling a small earthquake today was not a sign of that :)
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Minn, Ott, SJ, St.L all closed up shop for the day. (Per McKenzie, TSN).
Not surprised. I’m actually ok with us not making a deadline move. They never seem to work out for us.
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Hopefully acquiring Wallin early gives him adequate time to develop chemistry with the guys.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Jeez, none of my questions on the ESPN live chat are going through. Maybe they did not appreciate my truculence reference.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions
They figured you'd already exited
After the second round of questions
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HEY HUSKINS HATERS WE CAN STILL PICK UP LUKOWICH OFF OF WAIVERS
STFU
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions
I guess that's proof that somebody in teal appreciates Huskins.
Somewhere in San Jose, Kent Huskins is writing you a thank you letter while he plays in his $1.7 million home.
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by Will Bulldozer on Mar 3, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I suppose the bottom line here is that we still have no idea what to expect from this group in playoffs. This is almost entirely a different team – just like US and Canada were in Vancouver, so we’ll just have to wait and see how we do.
Echoing something I "overheard"
“When this team is on, we can beat anybody, and then they’re not, we can’t.”
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Sounds like truth to me.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a team that can’t be described thusly? I mean, they’re all NHL players. They all have some win in them, even the loathesome scumf*cks we all love to hate.
Well, Id say there have been teams out there that are not on and still find ways to win. The Sharks, unfortunately, have not been one of those teams. When things go south for the Sharks, they go really really south.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I might say otherwise after last night, actually. That was a huge deficit, and they didn’t quite bring it, but the Sharks were clearly not “on” for that game, yes?
Right, they weren’t on, and they lost. The Devils weren’t on either last night, and they won. Scoring 3 goals in a 3 minute stretch in the third doesn’t mean the Sharks all of a sudden know how to win when the shit hits the fan.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it just means that Brodeur momentarily forgot how to play goal.
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Oilers, Maple Leafs.
I don’t think those teams could be most teams, even when their game is on. (assuming the other team’s game is on)
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I don’t think those teams could beat most teams even if the other team’s game is off.
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Fair point... BUT
Honestly, on paper, this team should DESTROY people.
The “any given Sunday” principle applies, BUT
There’s a BIG difference between our lineup and other team’s lineups. 9 times out of 10, WE are supposed to win.
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That is true.
Hopefully the experience of coming out and absolutely destroying Russia to start the 1/4 final worked well for Thornton and others.
I sure as hell hope that our strategy for Game 1 of playoffs, whoever we play.
I'd like to think so too,
but part of me thinks that our Sharks got the experience of winning in the Olympics, but did so without carrying their team on their backs. Canada didn’t need them to be great, the Sharks will.
While I still have my fear that Joe T will go missing in the spring, just like he did at the Olympics, I keep reminding myself that the best post season run by the Sharks came without Thornton in the lineup.
In fact, that line up looks rather pathetic compared to this one.
The Sharks will go as far as Nabby takes them. That’s pretty standard.
Now, assuming Nabby is solid, they will also go as far as their secondary scoring takes them. Pavs’ line having an awesome playoff run will do wonders for our chances.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t expect Nabby to a miracle maker, but I would hope he’d at least play as well as Loungo did for Canada and at least win games.
Scoring would be more important in my mind. As will PP and PK – all that went MIA against the Ducks.
Exactly.
We shouldn’t need him to stand on his head. I’d be happy with solid.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Nabby's best years were wasted in the pre-Joe Thornton era
If we could have Nabby from that conference finals run where we ran into Calgary? Man, I’m getting a little aroused just thinking about it…
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Hey, Boyle completely took over either the Germany or Russia game. He was just like, “Fuck this, I want gold,” and scored and set up a bunch of goals.
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Unfortunately, yes.
I bet Bykov didn’t even know who the hell Boyle was.
To this day we don’t know if Bykov had a single scout in the NHL prior to the Olympics.
Yeah, I heard about that. That was really stupid of him, especially seeing how the best teams were filled primarily with NHL players, and the games themselves would have more of an NHL style due to the smaller rink.
I mean, if they had any NHL scouting at all, I doubt they would be so lackadaisical on defense against Canada. Or Slovakia, for that matter.
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They thought that if they could win two WCs in a row, they can easily win the Olympics.
The difference though is that these are two different tournaments. It’s obvious Canada knew all their big opponents well. Babcock even knew that Weber plays really well against Datsyuk, so he paired them up and Datsyuk had a terrible game.
Bykov had no clue. He even admitted he doesn’t know NHL all that well, and many players said later that strategically, Canada was a mystery team to them.
Madness.
Exactly. In the WC, a lot of the players that normally would play for Canada are either in the playoffs or burnt out/injured. But in the Olympics, everyone plays save for those who are really injured. Bykov simply wasn’t prepared for a fully operational Canadian Death Star.
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WC is also a longer tournament, with 16 teams instead of 12 participating, so there is more time to get the machine going, so to speak. In 2009 Russia didn’t really face any serious competition until the final where they faced Canada.
Here in the Olympics one has to fire on all cylinders from the beginning. If Russia was better prepared for Slovakia, they would have been no. 1 seed.
I love what the Russian Prez said
“The people responsible for preparing our athletes will resign or we will help them resign.”
The man knows his hockey… and men’s figure skating.
I believe it was at the end of the Russia game where Boyle had a beast moment of his own. Held the puck behind the Russian net for at least 20 seconds with many opposing players hanging off of him.
I was impressed. It may have been a different game, but I swear it was Russia.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I wouldn't count on much from the Olympics
To be honest, I really feel HTML was a non-factor (or a minimal factor).
The problem for them was very similar to the regular season, there are so few “measuring stick” games for them.
HTML looked good against Norway. Great. They looked good against the Oilers too.
They were good against Switzerland. Better. They should have likely gotten more tangible results rather than just “good pressure” but good goaltending often beats good pressure.
In the real tough games, can’t say HTML were the biggest factor. They didn’t get much ice against the US in the final, but I think that has as much to do with the Getzlaf line playing out of its mind (hey, does that sound familiar?) and against Russia, the opposition was pretty much dead.
IMO, HTML didn’t “choke” in the Olympics, but they hardly looked like world-beaters. They were surrounded by lots of talent.
I don’t think it did as much for them as it could have.
Dan Boyle is an entirely different story, but b**** please, he’s Dan F***ing Boyle.
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Marleau was absolutely flying against the US – he had so many chances, was a beast forechecking and backchecking, it looked like he should have buried one at any moment.
Him playing so hard was actually what made the US’s loss hurt less. Patty just so wanted to win.
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Marleau was good
I’m probably being a bit unfair to him (and to Heatley). But outside of the Swiss game, I never saw them take over a game the way Getzlaf-Perry-Morrow did against the US in the final. And, US >>> Swiss.
That speaks volumes to me.
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I thought HTML did great. They scored goals in almost every game except the gold medal game against the US If i remember correctly.
I thought they actually performed best in the games where the rest of the team wasn’t really performing, while other lines shined during those blowout games against Norway and Germany.
What line scored the only two goals against Switzerland? HTML. What line usually started off the scoring (which proved to be a huge factor in the olympics, especially for Canada) for Team Canada? HTML.
Just because they didn’t score a goal in the Gold medal game doesn’t mean they weren’t good in the tough games, they had a lot of chances in that game.
Very fair point
Again though, if I could re-emphasize one thing:
Tougher measuring stick for HTML. They didn’t have many chances against truly elite competion. Getzlaf’s line was invisible against the Swiss, but dominant in the final. HTML was largely the reverse.
Big game experience was the name of the game for the Olympians. HTML stepped up in an early game against relatively weak competition, the Getzlaf line stepped up in the biggest game on Canadian ice in nearly 3 decades. I think that speaks for itself.
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Yeap, I think this is what I was trying to say. The only Sharks player to play big in big games was Dan Boyle, and Patty for the most part.
Which is why I’m still confused with the people who are always advocating trading/letting go of Patty. HE SHOWS UP FOR BIG GAMES.
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I don’t think it’s fair to come to the conclusion that HTML can’t perform in tough playoff-type games just because they didn’t score in that one game against the USA.
Patty didn't score
but we’re not saying that he can’t perform. HTML was not as effective or dominating as they could have been and when they needed to be.
The HTML was the best, most consistant line for Canada in the early games, when the rest of the team just flat out didn’t show up. Babcock even said as much. When everyone else showed up, they didn’t need to carry the team anymore…I wouldn’t call that disappearing. Not everyone on a star studded team can score every game. IMO, HTML came through when they were needed the most.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
I remember how early on, people were complaining that HTML was getting so much ice time. Babcock’s answer for that? They were the only line that was actually playing well, and so got a disproportionate amount of ice time to match that. As the tournament went on and players started learning each others’ habits, HTML didn’t need to play as much anymore because they were no longer the only line that was clicking.
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Very true that they didn't have to carry the load
I suppose I’m more disappointed that HTML didn’t keep rolling and take over as the tournament went on. Considering that they have been playing together all season, I don’t know why they couldn’t keep the pace up.
I personally found it more telling that a guy like Brendan Morrow, who got less than 10 minutes of ice against the Swiss, suddenly found himself playing with Getzlaf and Perry in the later rounds and earned his ice for the final, while HTML ended up playing 3rd or 4th line minutes and were largely a non-factor in the final.
Canada owes HTML for carrying them in the Swiss game, but considering this was supposed to be Canada’s top line, almost hands down, I would consider them a bit of a disappointment compared to their expectations.
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I don’t think people expected HTML to be the hands down top line. I think the people who put together Team Canada expected HTML to be a line with good chemistry right out the gates that could provide good consistent scoring throughout the tournament and they did exactly that.
I thought they were always a threat when they were on the ice, even if they weren’t scoring. You can’t expect every shot or good-chance to amount to a goal.
The bottom line is that HTML provided consistent scoring for Team Canada, carried the team when they needed to, and were always dangerous. What more could you ask for?
Any line with Cindy on it was supposed to be Canada’s top line, hands down.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Your right Zero, HTML did consistently play well, especially in the beginning of the tournament. However, I credit that to their experience playing with one another rather than their ability to “step it up”. If I remember correctly, Babcock broke up HTML during the gold medal game, so again, as a complete line they didn’t play as well as they could have.
The trick here is how to make sure they’re ‘ON’ throughout the Cup run.
Cattle prods? Tony Robbins? Circus poodles?
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by SwisherThresher on Mar 3, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Wooly Mammoths.
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Whatever Greisser is on :D
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
SJ METH! :P
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I have no clue
I just assumed it’s because some of the goals he blocks are squirrly? Then have the time he looks like he’s tweaking out on meth with the way he blocks shots?
GhostofLinkGaetz thinks that he looks like a squirrel on meth with his poke checks and athleticism.
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oh noooooo meth makes you inattentive…ADD-ish…pot is what slows you down..and X probably.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Nope again on X. MDMA is a type of methamphetamine. There’s a reason all the club kids are on Ecstasy.
oh right X makes you horny not crack out…got it.
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"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
MDMA is a methamphetamine. Cocaine, crack, PCP, crank, crystal, etc., are all in the ‘stimulants’ group; contrast to THC (active chemical in marijuana) or alcohol, depressants (slow-down drugs).
Then ya got yer hallucinogens and psychoactives, barbituates, opiates, etc …
WOW….my hero LOL! Thanks I’ll go to you and ievans if I ever consider getting into that stuff. I know you guys will keep me safe and lead me in the right direction all at the same time.
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
psh….not if you know WHERE to score…just kidding I obviously know nothing about drugs whatsoever see above?? ^
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Side note
I’m really not “in” to that stuff anymore, by and large. I had my rebellious youth, I suppose, which included some forays into territory I’d not recommend to anyone; I’m not proud, but also not ashamed, of what I’ve done.
That chapter of my life is pretty much also closed. I kept it occasional, and didn’t let it get in the way of my responsibilities and relationships. Plus I took a good look at the people that liked any particular drug. For example, people on coke are assholes, and I try to avoid assholes as much as possible, and don’t want to be one either.
YMMV.
to inadament objects I hear…//snickers…
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re serious and I’m not falling for your sarcasm like a dodo…its because he plays all spastic and is all over the place all the time…twitchy fast and crazy..like meth addicts.
"Boys only voluntarily hug when someone scores."
"Hockey players wear numbers because you can’t always identify the body with dental records."—Anonymous
by mssjsclowie29 on Mar 3, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Urgency
How about the team playing with the sense of urgency and desperation that their opponents bring to the table..How about when they face adversity, they don’t fold up like a cheap card table..Those two things might be a little better than Tony Robbins, he is so annoying..LOL
Well, I suppose the bottom line here is that we still have no idea what to expect from this group in playoffs.
Thank you. This is 100% correct.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
This team hasn’t been to the playoffs yet. I don’t know why people can’t separate seasons as different teams.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Especially because we have a completely different bottom 6 (the only holdout from last year was Shelley, and now even he’s gone) and a very different defense. Things changed.
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At least Chicago didn’t get Vokoun!
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Really
Thank god for small favors..When you look at it, Chicago and Detroit also have goalie issues..Vancouver could be the sleeper if Luongo stands on his head..He is the one goalie to potentially fear in the west..
You can get to Luongo though
He has rebound control issues, and in the spotlight, he tends to try to do too much and gets himself into trouble.
If you can limit Vancouver to one line (the Sedins), Luongo won’t be able to carry them.
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Even though ANA improved today, I don’t think they are better than San Jose right now. Detroit will always be a concern for me, regardless of whether or not we picked up a defenseman. Less so obviously, but still, it’s Detroit. Never a happy place to go.
Anyways, recap going up in an hour. Going to grab some lunch and wait to see if something is backed up at the league office.
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Supposed to be a reply to you, Skillet.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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If I may offer one rebuttal
Anaheim’s Olympians probably had a better tournament than the Sharks.
Getzlaf and Perry were the difference against the US. Bobby Ryan played well for the US. Teemu Selanne is coming off a very emotional tournament. Jonas Hiller was the best goaltender not named Ryan Miller.
Just food for though.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Getzlaf, yes, hands down, but that’s not a surprise. Perry – I’m not so sure. He didn’t really show up until semifinal and final. Good for him that Canada made it all the way there, because if they didn’t, he’d be one of the firsts to get crucified.
Anaheim still has to make playoffs first, which is going to be a big challenge with all but the Oilers and BJs fighting for those sports.
In my mind
Correy Perry goes as Ryan Getzlaf goes. He’s a pest with skill, and with his confidence running so high, and his trending upward in the tournament, I look for him to finish the season strong.
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No Playoffs
Lets just hope that Anaheim doesn’t squeeze into that 8th spot again, because that wouldn’t be good..They will be dangerous if they make it in..
Over at the BoC, they tallied up how each of the BoC teams did. Sharks are slightly ahead in points.
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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by ang6666 on Mar 3, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
And that's why Ryan Whitney's been traded to the Oilers for Lubomir Visnovsky
suddenly makes Anaheim dangerous as a spoiler.
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by Will Bulldozer on Mar 3, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely agree with this… Im concerned about facing Hiller again. Especially becuase I’m not convinced that DW addressed the inconsistency on the secondary scoring enough. Unless of course you count Heatley.
Hiller is a concern. he could just a easily steal a series again against us. And I don’t think we would have a prayer against Detroit right now either. I think we are going to need some luck in our draws.
Maybe we should tank some games and end up with Calgary/Nashville/ Avalanche/Yotes first -second round match up??
jk…. mmmm….not really though
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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Mar 3, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
I'll say it again.
I’m surprisingly impressed.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Mar 3, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Knowing the Sharks luck for the past 5 or 6 years, we’ll probably get Detroit in the 1st round; the only team in the West besides Chicago that could beat us.
I think it would be in the Sharks best interest to drop to the 2 or 3 spot. At least then we’ll be able to play the Avs, Coyotes, or Preds. Maybe even the Kings.
But there is no way that Detroit doesn’t make the playoffs. If they get that 8th seed, and we’re stuck at 1st, all hell will break loose.
by CalFaithful707 on Mar 3, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
The Sharks would have to have an implosion of the highest order to drop to the 3 spot
SJ – 89 pts 63 GP
CHI – 87 pts 62 GP
VAN – 78 pts 62 GP
If we fell to the three spot, it would mean we can’t beat anyone and the discussion is moot.
We’re going to have to play 2 to 3 tough series to go anywhere. Fact of life. It’s time we (and the team) suck it up on that fact.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
I agree...
I seriously doubt 3rd will happen as well, but CHI is a beast and we’ve been battling that number 1 spot for quite a while. I am much more comfortable as the 2nd seed going into playoffs.
Why is everyone so convinced that Detroit is definately going to be the 8 seed. With their team healthy, they could easily move up to 6 and make this a moot point. Or they could easily move into 7th, and then everyone hoping the Sharks actually play poorly this month to get the 2 seed will cry. At this point, it doesn’t matter. We cannot control who we face. The Sharks just need to worry about getitng themselves into playoff form and ready for a battle, no matter who our opponent ends up being.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I never said the sharks will play poorly...
When you look at the point differential between the Hawks and Sharks it only takes one game to get bumped down to 2nd.
No Trades
Well DW didn’t find anything to make the team stronger..You have to be concerned about the backend of the Sharks..The defense and goaltending is a little shaky..It seems to me that all of the teams in the west that are real threats other than Vancouver have goalie issues..It should be a good playoffs in the west..Lets hope the Sharks can find the sense of urgency missing the last few years..They need to play with that desperation that their opponents bring to the table..
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Puck Daddy gives out his Trade Deadline Report Cards.
He gives the Sharks a B for standing pat because according to him we already have everything we need, but then says this: “No need to do anything but wait until their inevitable playoff disappointment, which will have nothing to do with this deadline.”
What an ass.
by Icing On The Power Play on Mar 3, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions
I like Puck Daddy.
But I hate the constant potshots he takes at the Sharks. Its not that its not true, but its like a comedian going to jokes that just aren’t funny any more (looking at you, Carlos Mencia)
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Mar 3, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
At this point, I’m all for the rest of the hockey world thinking we’re any easy draw. The Sharks have historically done much better when expectations were low. But mostly, I’m pretty sure one of these postseasons the pieces are going to fall into place and they’ll make a run. When that happens, I’m going to enjoy the howls of disbelief.
Agreed. It’s going to be awesome when the Sharks finally put it all together and the media has to resort something else to make fun of.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 3, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
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