2010 NHL Playoff Preview: San Jose Sharks vs. Detroit Red Wings
Honest to god, it is series like these that make me proud to be a hockey fan.
You have immense talent up and down both rosters. The underrated aesthetic appeal of teal clashing with red, poetry in motion. The history of the 1994 upset. The lack of success that followed that win. The universal disdain for the Red Wings organization. The universal ridicule that floods San Jose every May. The team that has done it all versus the team that never quite got there, The Dynasty versus The Dynasty That Hasn't Happened Just Yet.
The promise of a new postseason ripe with opportunity. The chance to put all of those critics to rest.
It's going to be hard as hell to stay at an even keel throughout these next two weeks. Emotions will vary by the minute. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll curse, you'll cheer, and then they'll finally drop the puck at 6:07 PM tomorrow night.
And then it hits you.
This is what postseason hockey is all about.
It's about going up against a team that has punched you in the mouth and saying "I can take one more, because this time I'm not going down." It's about facing your demons head on. It's about entering into a battlefield that will define the organization for years to come. The biggest test this team has faced. Never have the stakes been so high, the Last Crusade, the final proving grounds. It is the last shot San Jose's core will have before the organization decides to go in another direction. The Patrick Marleau's, the Evgeni Nabokov's, the Joe Thornton's. This is their time.
No matter where this ends up, no matter what side of the ledger the Gods decide to cast their final tallies, soak it in. Let every single second synchronize with your soul.
Because honest to god, it is series like these that make me proud to be a hockey fan.
Forwards
Pavel Datsyuk is one of those players that is just a treat to watch. He led the league in takeaways by an astronomical margin this season, and will likely be squared off against Thornton's line for every single shift. Detroit head coach Mike Babcock loves to play the matchup game, and between Datsyuk and Zetterberg, he has two very capable forwards he can throw out against San Jose's top line. My guess is that he splits them up and sends Zetterberg out against Pavelski night in and night out-- Datsyuk has fared well against Thornton throughout his career, and that's a hard match I think Babcock tries to exploit.
No matter who gets tasked where, the key for San Jose is to avoid the turnovers at the blueline that occasionally rear their ugly head. This means Joe Thornton needs to make a deliberate effort to fight his near constant urge to pull up above the circles off the rush and look for the cross ice feed. Datsyuk will murder him if he tries to play that game. Thornton has the size to drive down low against the Red Wings, and having him carry the puck much more effectively than we have seen in this situation will do a lot to nullify Detroit's ability to generate odd man rushes.
The Red Wings aren't blessed with a lot of individual player speed-- what they are blessed with however is a wonderful transition game. The speed of the team's puck movement is phenomenal. Crisp breakout passes, move the puck up the ice extremely well. Managing the rubbber and getting it deep into the zone is how the Sharks can win this series. They will never be able to out finesse Detroit. They aren't built for that type of game. But they sure as hell can attempt to outmuscle them below the end line, and use their size to work the low cycle as they did against Colorado. This is obviously a whole different ballgame than the first round, but straying away from that gameplan just opens up too much space for the Red Wings to work with in the center of the ice. Finish your checks and wear down a team that has played a lot of hockey over the last three seasons.
Dany Heatley is the wildcard here. Under the assumption that Thornton and Marleau remain on the top line together, perform up to expectations, and continue to skate with Torrey Mitchell, it's a favorable matchup. With Heatley on the third line with Logan Couture and Manny Malhotra it opens up an opportunity for the Sharks to steal some goals when Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Niklas Lidstrom aren't on the ice. Heatley's health is still an unknown variable going into the series, but by most accounts he is nearly full strength again.
The hope here is that the top two lines of San Jose can play their Detroit counterparts to a wash, and the third line can pot the difference makers. That obviously requires a big performance from Thornton, over a point a game would do the trick nicely, but I doubt he can severely outplay Datsyuk over the course of seven games. Same goes for Pavelski's line-- it's good if they break even.
If Thornton and Marleau continue to be kept off the scoreboard however, the Sharks have a tough time pulling through. In other words, it starts with them, but it doesn't necessarily have to end with them.
Third line is the difference maker if all goes according to plan.
Edge: Wash, push goes to San Jose
Defense

This is the one that has me concerned. San Jose's forward group matches up just fine against Detroit, but the blueline is another matter. Nabokov will be seeing a whole lot more rubber than he did against Colorado, and will likely need to steal a game in Joe Louis where the bounces never seem to go our way.
Marc-Edouard Vlasic will be fine this series, and will carry the heavy load by going up against one of Datsyuk of Zetterberg. Blake has really turned it around since the Olympic Break but Detroit's puck control in the defensive zone could bring out the infamous Captain Hook. His increased penchant for the physical game could also nullify that. At this point, I'm not sure what to expect.
Douglas Murray was a sore spot against Colorado and will need to improve greatly if his pairing can expect to be an effective one against the Red Wings. Easing back physically is probably not in the DNA of the big Swede, but reducing the chances he takes when trying to land a big hit in the neutral zone will go a long way towards limiting the trend of being out of position down the line. It's a fine line to walk, and one he will need to walk rather carefully.
Dan Boyle will be Dan Boyle. Big time player, big time minute eater, no concerns here.
Huskins and Demers will be an interesting combination. As we mentioned before, Huskins had a great series against Colorado and has proved to be a reliable bottom pairing defenseman during the season. Jason Demers is really the question mark here-- Detroit will apply much more pressure than Colorado did, and with his tendency to give up some fairly egregious turnovers in his own zone could be the death knell. With Babcock's love of creating mismatches in Joe Louis Arena, Demers is a question mark that I don't have the answer for quite yet.
Niklas Lidstrom is still, at the age of forty, one of the best defenseman in the league today. Extraordinary player, one who will be raising hell on the ice for about half the night. He'll go against Thornton exclusively. Brian Rafalski is a quality partner with some offensive pop. The ex-Shark Brad Stuart and Niklas Kronwall serve as the second pairing, and like to play with a physical edge. They're not nearly in the same class as Lidstrom and Rafalski, but taken as a whole, the top four matches up favorably against San Jose's. The key here will be to attempt to exploit the bottom pairing of Jonathan Ericsson and Andreas Lilja, two guys who Babcock doesn't have a whole lot of confidence in.
Again, if the third line can see some quality shifts against the bottom pair, the opportunity is ripe to pot a few goals. Keeping Heatley on that third line could be the key to overcoming Detroit's advantage on the blueline.
Edge: Detroit
Goaltending
The one thing San Jose can't do is sleep on Jimmy Howard. He carried Detroit for the first half of the year when they were shelled with injuries at nearly every conceivable position, and proved that he is able to win games when the Red Wings defense is off. That being said, he has had issues with rebound control during the course of this season, and as we saw against Phoenix, is prone to giving up some softies. HP Pavilion is probably the loudest building in the NHL when the Sharks get rolling, and an early goal could rattle the cage.
For San Jose, Nabokov will be heavily relied on to win hockey games. This is where his playoff mettle will be tested, the proverbial line in the sand drawn. The book on Nabokov the last few seasons has been to go five-hole, but after being exposed in a playoff series against Anaheim, Evgeni did a very good job of working on that aspect of his game during the summer and improving those issues. He aggressively challenges shooters and loves to play the puck behind the net, waiting until the last minute to chip the puck over an incoming forechecker's stick-- and while both of these attributes are largely positive, they can get him into trouble sometimes.
See Detroit in 2007.
Acrobatic saves and a nasty glove hand are obviously his bread and butter.
I think San Jose holds serve in this matchup in terms of SV%-- Nabokov has been lights out this season when the Sharks have needed him most, and he was the Team MVP for the entire year. The question is whether or not San Jose's defense can limit good scoring opportunities in front of him.
Nabokov will have to steal at least one game in order for San Jose to win this series. If he pulls that off in Joe Louis Arena, where his career numbers ring to the tune of a .903 SV%, it's nothing but sunshine.
Edge: San Jose
Intangible Assets

The Brand. Detroit has been the class of the Western for fifteen years now, and nothing has changed. Their reputation is phenomenal in the postseason-- San Jose's is not.
Market Position. Regular season record against playoff teams concerns me, but that is becoming irrelevant in the second round. San Jose has the home-ice contract for this series, and that is going to be huge. Joe Louis Arena has been the devil's lair for years now, and if things go as I expect, the Sharks will need just one win away from HP Pavilion. Despite the history, I like those odds.
Business System. Two different types of ways each team will approach this series. The Sharks will try and work the low cycle and limit turnovers while the Wings will try and run their transition game. Special teams success are going to be an absolute must for both teams and could be the tipping point in the series-- if the Sharks are able to capitalize on penalties, they will be fine. But if the man advantage hits a rut as it tends to do in the postseason, it presents a situation where the kill needs to be near perfect. Against Detroit that's a pipe dream.
Knowledge. I like Todd McLellan. He's a good coach who learned from his mistakes last season. But honestly, there's no one better than Mike Babcock.
Edge: Wash, push goes to Detroit
Prediction

The blueline concerns me but I like the goaltending matchup. Datsyuk is a magician but I have a feeling Thornton finally asserts himself. Henrik Zetterberg has a ridiculously beautiful wife but Patrick Marleau is the best looking man in the world.
Todd Bertuzzi should be in prison.
Tomas Holmstrom's behind gets more press coverage than Jennifer Lopez but Ryane Clowe is giving him a run for his money. Niklas Lidstrom is bulletproof but Dany Heatley has a sniper rifle. Brian Rafalski is a patriot but Joe Pavelski is the new American hero.
I keep flipping this coin. Unbiased. Unprejudiced. Fair.
And it always comes up heads.
San Jose in seven. Book it.
Go Sharks.
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I'll be the first to say it
Winning the Stanley cup would mean almost nothing if we didn’t have to go through the red wings to do it
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions
False, but whatevs.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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False.
Black bear.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
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i heard the battlestar gallactica remake is shot for shot the same as the original
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Apr 28, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Fact.
Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
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Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Apr 28, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
If we won the stanely cup by going through
LA, Phoenix, Nashville and Florida…
I wouldn’t care.
It’s the Stanely Cup.
Nobody takes a damn thing away from Detroit from 2008, and their road was almost that easy.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Nashville, Colorado (horribly injury depleted after their win over Minnesota), Dallas (coming off a 4OT win over the Sharks), then an inexperienced Pittsburgh team.
No recent cup winners.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
sheesh
i continue to see this everywhere on how our road was “so easy”…in the Western Conference it is never easy…that is why the East should have an advantage by the time the finals come…you play who is put in front of you….there have been plenty of teams who have had a chance for an “easier road” and failed…we beat everybody that we played and became champs.
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
like the user name btw though
FFFFFF the Ducks…and there douchebaggary
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LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Oddly enough, completely unrelated to the hockey team.
I just figured it was fate when I became a hockey fan.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
haha nice
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LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Craig Ferguson tells a story about evil ducks.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
Ducks are evil
just takes some people longer than normal to realize it.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
and for him, it took acid. bahaha
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
I'm not taking anything away from the Wings
They won, winning is no joke.
People just seem to think that it doesn’t count unless you beat every single top seeded team along the way.
Which bugs me.
I wouldn’t have cared one way or another if we won the Cup without seeing Detroit.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
yeah you have the right approach
why would anybody WANT to face the toughest road…like last year for us i HATED that road to the finals…it was brutal facing 2 straight pretty big rivals before the Pens…while they played the soft Caps and a tired Canes team who put up no resistance
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I still think the Ducks cost you that cup
They beat the shit out of the Wings for 7 games, they never fully recovered.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
yeah they are such a physical and dirty team
it takes a toll…i hate hate hate hate that team so damn much…especially mr. i am balding at 24 years old Getzlaf and Katy Perry ergg
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Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Perry cross check your goalie in the back of the legs right after he came back from injury too?
At least they lost Pronger.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
yeah they all had there share of cheap shots
i remember Mike Brown cheap shotted the shit out of Hudler in Game 1….Perry, Ryan and Pronger of course did there thing lol
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
On that note though, I fully expect the Sharks to try to be just as physical in this series as the Ducks were last year. Ask Avs fans how we approached that series.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
yeah i fully expect that
there is a difference between physical and just flat out dirty though….nobody can reach the depths that the Ducks have reached…ever ever
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
should be a great series
wish it didn’t start tomorrow though considering i am going to be missing most of the game…couldn’t they start it at 10:30 est lol
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re surprisingly easy to talk to for a Wings fan. Are you sure there isn’t a real Wings fan holding a gun to your head forcing you to root for them?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
i am a knowledgeable
and easy going fan to get along with as long as you don’t get on my bad side…like douchey Avs, Blues and Hawks fans love to do….with there childish name calling…they can’t “diss” the red wings with anything sports related ever…embarrassing
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
Every fan base has douche bags. I think the difference between douche bag shark fans and douche bag fans of other teams is that ours tend to irritate us instead of fans of other teams.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
yep definitely
lol yeah?
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LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe Mymclife coined the phrase “anti-bandwagon fans” Sharks are winning and it’s just the regulars. 10 game win streaks, same regulars posting.
Lose 3 in a row or lose a game in the playoffs and everybody and their dog come out of the woodwork claiming to be sharks fans and bitching how we’ll never win anything with every player on this team. Everybody should be fired etc.
It’s annoying. Why can’t we just get normal douche bags.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
lol it happens
always have those very very very very pessimistic delusional fans
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think i’m falling into the douche bag category right now via my avatar…I won’t name call you, i swear, and i’m generally easy to talk to. Don’t be shocked if i don’t get a joke, either, i’m the humor inept one on this forum. Thanks for stopping by, though, you seem pretty nice to talk to.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Whew. Yeah i’m keeping that as my avatar for the 2nd round. It was easy to draw but hard to color in since i’m bad with editing.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks
you guys seem like a cool bunch
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
appreciate your candor
and the good convo before the series starts.
should be a whole lotta really good hockey, reinforcing why this is the BEST time of year.
cant promise i wont be a little more defensie of this team i love halfway through this series, but im glad to have you here- beats the hell out of any ducks fans.
go sharks.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 28, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
As a Shark fan i’m biased and will say that the team doesn’t play dirty. They try to keep it professional, but they are capable of being physical, which can been misinterpreted as “dirty”. Poor Blake was seen as a dirty player because the Avs players just couldn’t keep their heads up in the game. Our 40 year old broke a couple 20 year olds.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah from what i have seen of the Sharks
not just this year but pretty much every year…definitely not a dirty team
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 28, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
In talking about winning the Cup
The keys are obviously skill, commitment and heart, no one questions that. But anyone around hockey will also always confess, luck plays a role as well. Who’s injured? When are they injured? Did you get a bounce? A call?
On a long road where the margin between winning and losing is razor thin, you can not discount any advantage, including quality of opponents.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Like the Vikings sailing to the English Coast
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
hahaha any time you can incorporate the vikings into a sports conversation,
that is a win in my book.
i’d be happy about the victory no mater who it came through. there are no asterisks on that silver cup.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 28, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And leaving us with orange playoff beards
Thanks Vikings.
Sincerely,
Orange Bearded Morti
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Luck definitely plays a role. Heater having 5 days to rest up is definitely lucky, as I think a good amount of our success in the next round will stem directly or indirectly from #15.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on Apr 28, 2010 7:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
See I disagree
I would feel so much better about if we had to face Calgary, aneheim, Detroit, and every ex shark that bites us ( I know plank showed that teemu and Nolan were really the only two who came remotely close to doing this).
But that’s just me.
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course it would feel better to go through all those teams, but if it didn’t happen, that doesn’t make a Cup win irrelevant.
Your word choice of “almost nothing” was likely a poor one.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Ok
Please chalk that up to my inability to articulate myself correctly.
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
You just articulated yourself pretty well, actually!
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
That's the ticket
Would it mean more to have a tough road? Hell yes it would. Does that mean that having it “easy” (because face it, you’re still going through the rigors) makes it mean less? Nah.
A Cup, by any other name, would still be something I’d sanitize myself after touching.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
But wait
Would Jimmy fallon had done such a wonderful movie about the red sox had they not had to get through the Yankees that year????
I bet they’ll do a movie about the sharks.
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Either the guy from office space or that other guy
Will play Patrick marl eau.
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Or a very young Eugene Levy.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
holy crap
I was talking to my husband on how if the Sharks go all the way that there should be a movie made based on their story.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I am your husband
And this is my fake online identity
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That
would befuddle me greatly.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
unless you were talking to yourself.
in which case… you still should be befuddled.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
Haha
Yeah, my husband is also my hockey buddy…we’re often seen on at the same time.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
That and the only reason i’m on here was because i lurked behind his shoulder for months.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
30 years or 80 yearz
It’s still a lot of years.
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I realized I wasn't even 30 yet
And I remember when they started.
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
daaaaaaaymn
I’LL BE 125!!!!! //cries noooooooooooooooooooo
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the guy who's playing Patrick Marleau

by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Unbelievably false...
A Cup is a Cup…no matter who you have to play. The playoffs are a grind that only the best survive.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It's my opinion
Let me have it!!! You can’t take it away from me!!!!!
Someones gotta agree with me
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
well…maybe…oh i think….wait…no, nobody agrees.
by In Bust we Trust on Apr 28, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree with your opinion, but I respect your right to have that opinion.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”
- Evelyn Beatrice Hall, oft misattributed to Voltaire, in her biography of him written under a pseudonym.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
I wouldn’t quite defend it to the death, but then again, I have valor issues.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
I would defend it to the inconvenience.
It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
by strongrobot on Apr 28, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
that made me lol. I love this.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
Hmmmm
rephrase….it would be frakkking awesome to win the Stanley Cup…it would be the ULTIMATE if we had to go through the Red Wings to get to it. :) there happy medium
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
about to write the same thing.
well said.
it is one thing to have the respect that comes with having won the cup. it is a whole other level to have been a fan of this team and to see them go through that team to get that prize.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 28, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
its like LOTR
you’re walking into Mordor knowing you might die…theres a good 85% you might get bounced…but you walk into it anyway…and if you win, if you beat the ring, the evil eye….the victory is so much sweeter. Except here if we don’t beat the Wings only our world will end everyone else just goes on their merry ass way.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I won’t agree with the Cup having any more or less meaning based on who a team defeats on the way there. However, I will take it a step further and echo a sentiment I’ve already seen a few people point out: the Wings are a demon it will be very satisfying to put to rest, regardless of the ultimate outcome.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on Apr 28, 2010 8:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea I can see it now.
Blake lifts up the cup and we’re all like pusha we didn’t even play Detroit. I wasted my time watching these playoffs.
I shouldn't have said anything.
by perkins.kit on Apr 28, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, who was the one who voted for Detroit?
Show yourself!
by In Bust we Trust on Apr 28, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions
It's okay, we won't judge you.
*gets the stones ready to be thrown
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
Oh, hey, a chainsaw suddenly appeared in my hand.
by In Bust we Trust on Apr 28, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Should i rally the ambush behind the corner so it’s even more of a surprise?
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
woot
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This battle
will be brutal for everyone….I’m nervous, scared and unsure….but hopefully some alcohol in the course of the next week and a half perhaps will change that. :) GO SHARKS!!!! FIGHT LIKE HELL!!! I BELIEVE!
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
I can't wait to get sooooooooooo drunk
by SanJoseLandShark on Apr 28, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm probably going to be blasted out of my mind.
Otherwise I wouldn’t live through it without being a complete mess….Uppers and Downers plzthx.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
depends on how it goes
POSITIVITY!!!! Stone cold sober beezys!
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I’ve even forgotten the good stuff…I’ve “missed” my share of W’s…
Oh beer, why are you so good?!
hahahaha yea
I missed Seto’s Game 2 OT goal…tsk…oh well…here’s to blacking out!
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Dumb question for Plank
Why “god” vs. “Gods”? Standard hockey paganism? ;-)
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
Hockey Gods— don’t disrespect them with the lower case. It is bad ju-ju.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
But lower case for “honest to god”? Guess monotheism dies during hockey season…
(dumb issue to bring up, apologies all around)
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
I love how the majority of this thread has already delved into an argument on the merits of various Cup runs and grammatical nitpickings. Might as well post a picture of my dog taking a dump and call it a preview.
^ sarcasm
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Ouch
It’s because your writing is of such consistently high quality that no further praise or rehashing needs to be done.
If you’ll excuse me, I need to wipe my nose.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
Just yanking your dick bruva.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
ew
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
ROFL
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
I tried to stay on point!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
If you want comments on the post …
The book on Nabokov the last few seasons has been to go five-hole, but after being exposed in a playoff series against Anaheim, Evgeni did a very good job of working on that aspect of his game during the summer and improving those issues. He aggressively challenges shooters and loves to play the puck behind the net, waiting until the last minute to chip the puck over an incoming forechecker’s stick— and while both of these attributes are largely positive, they can get him into trouble sometimes.
Is this recycled, or am I so on the ball that I only think I remember it because it so resounds my own thoughts that it seems familiar …?
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
Yessir, it came from our playoff preview post. Good memory.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Aha.
Thought it looked familiar. I echo my response there — his behind-the-net play kinda spooks me, and he hasn’t quite stopped his hesitation back there when there’s attackers on both boards coming in.
That said, I can’t think of any goal (and if I’ve forgotten one, please don’t remind me?) that came from that moment of hesitation. Just a lot of heart-pounding and a few extra beers.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
And it’s not that I necessarily want comments on the post. I guess I would just like to see more discussion about hockey on the front page threads. Not a deal breaker, but as TCY mentioned earlier today (and I mentioned to K last week in probably the stupidest way I could have), there is sometimes a tendency to get off target in terms of hockey discussion.
Again, not a deal breaker, just something I would like to focus on more as the blog gets older etc.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Fair enough.
I’m a new fan. I don’t have a lot to add most of the time, but I enjoy being part of the banter.
For my $0.02, I’m terrified of Detroit, the reasons for that having been outlined very well in your post — relatively even offensively, with an edge to them in defense and to us in goaltending; all of that adds up to one hell of a series, the likes of which I’ve never seen in my short tenure as an active Sharks fan.
I’m not familiar with the ghosts of playoffs past, nor with the legacy of the Winged Wheel, in the way that most people ‘round here are. I’m fresh and bright and optimistic, and still afraid of the coming battle against a team that’s, from what I read, handled us pretty well in years prior. I can also look at this year’s trend against them to inspire that same fear.
To win this, the Sharks are going to have to be on the absolute peak of their game. Every single player will need to put forth the best we’ve seen of them this year — and all of them have to do it at the same time. We’ve seen excellent play from (nearly) every member of the roster at some point through this season. Now, we need it all to come together.
If it does, then the deity of your choice could not stand in their way. If any man falters, we will struggle. If several falter, our chances erode very, very quickly.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
It really is going to be a great series, and honestly, I can’t wait. No matter what the outcome is, these matchups are what the NHL playoffs are all about. Two well-balanced teams going toe to toe with one another.
This is probably a superlative, but in ten years, I still think I’ll remember this series vividly. The implications for San Jose’s future are huge. Both in the win and loss column.
It’s either break the demons or break up the team. Doesn’t get much more epic than that.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
True story.
This series will be the defining moment for the only era of Sharks hockey I’ve known. This is where the players I know make their mark, or get written into the history books as perennials chokers unable to overcome that stigma.
This is my introduction to epic, and I can say without a doubt that the energy buzzing in my veins right now is unlike anything any sport has ever given me.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
At least this team
Will know in advance that they can point to a game like this. Other era’s of Sharks hockey have come and gone in much stranger fashion.
The original Cinderella team of ’94 revolted against Kevin Constantine and the roster was blown up, resulting in the 70 loss season. The trades for and of Owen Nolan sandwich the middle years, and the Joe Thornton trade started the current era.
This team KNOWS it’s time is here and now. Let’s see what they do with it.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Just got a flashback from that.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
oh to be young and naive...
It will be a great series. NBC doesn’t know what it’ll be missing
Old Man Plank
Get off my lawn!
However, I fear it is futile. You see, when you leave to catch the early bird special at Hometown Buffet, the kids will be a-loiterin’.
I shouldn't have said anything.
by perkins.kit on Apr 28, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m taking a dump in your mailbox the next time I’m in SLO.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
jokes on the mailman
i open that box much less often than he does
I shouldn't have said anything.
by perkins.kit on Apr 29, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Although I would like to point out that a lot of threads have recently been turned into chat rooms and moving away from the hockey forum thing…
I think it’s the playoffs. I’d also note that, through a lot of it, there’s ties to hockey, the Sharks, and all that — some diversions, of course, yes, but for the most part tangentially related to the topic.
But maybe it’d be good to be a little more focused. Show the discipline we want from our team, and all that.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
Sorry Plank
You write so well that it actually intimidates me to try to spark conversation about the game. Being as I grew up female and a fan of hockey I’m still trying to get over the fact that I know you guys respect my opinions and don’t just scoff at whatever I say. Still in that transition phase…
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
OOoooooh very nice....
same here same boat…still a guppie not get a Shaaaaark!
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
not YET a shark....
I’m lame..
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly i’ve been intimidated my entire life about even bringing up that I watch hockey because of the way guys react. Nothing that came out of my mouth was taken seriously, and a lot of times i got “yeah, but you are a woman.” when i made a valid point about a play or about the game in general. I do love how much everyone here respects the womenfolk.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Not the same thing at all
But a lot of people look at me and go “dude, you’re not white, and you watch hockey?”
Being knowledgeable will always win you the respect of others. Feel no intimidation. Hockey fans are cool.
When I was in Vancouver for the Olympics, I think part of the reason I didn’t get much grief was because I COULD talk hockey and, so even though I was wearing enemy colors, people gave respect.
Do the same!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
LIke i said i’m trying to lift that intimidation. I talk about hockey with my husband all the time and seem to stupefy anyone who sees i’m wearing something Shark related and asks if i’m a fan.
I have been able to pitch in my thoughts on the game recently and not be ridiculed which is a huge boost in confidence, and my dad has come to respect my opinion of the game. Thanks for putting up with my antics. I tend to try to follow along with jokes or get to know someone a bit more. I don’t feeling like i’m talking to someone who is faceless.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You haven't seen my face
So it might work best for you to continue to pretend I’m faceless!
As an engineer, and a guy, I can tell you for a fact, what you lack in confidence, you can make up for in volume and certainty, accuracy be damned! If someone asks you if they’re a fan, look down your nose at them and ask “are you?” with as much scorn as you have. I mean, seriously, screw you hater!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
I’m pretty proud of myself recently. This instance, by the way, the VERY first time in public that i was bold enough to say anything. A guy booed behind me when I told someone I was a Sharks fan, and managed to look right at the guy and say “don’t even start”. Made the dude shut up pretty darn quick.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
"Don't even start"
Needs to be in your sig
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
yea I do appreciate it
but we gotta keep it on topic…see note above //ahem….so uhm…I wonder how the team is going to be with almost a week off? They really gotta work on defense and Nabby man…has to be a wall or we’ll be in a ton of trouble. Heater…gotta love that guy but in all seriousness…he’s gotta step it up keep his feet moving…isn’t he known as a sniper?
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Nabby will be a wall. The man is finally getting some support from the entire team. Turns out when the players block shots themselves it doesn’t tire out the goalie completely. Watching last nights game gave me some confidence about our play compared to the Red Wings.
The Red Wings goalie hasn’t had much abuse that we gave out to the Avalanche so it’s quite possible that the first couple of games we are going to tire out their defense and goalie, but we have to be careful with how physical they’ll get on us. They know how to throw their bodies in the middle of the ice and keep it legal.
Haha, yeah i’m intimidated by a Red Wings power play 2 minutes remaining, but i’m also intimidated by a 5 on 3 or when one of our players waffles in neutral ice with a Red Wing right next to him. Break-aways scare me above all else.
"Sleep is for the off season."~ Randy Hahn. Never question why the man is up at midnight.
by ZombieSkittles on Apr 28, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
yea but the RW D is freaking insane...
plus their forwards can skate circles around guys like Murray. I’m definitely worried but I’m hoping we can pull it through and get the puck to the net. I think no I’m positive….if pucks get to the net we’ll win…but breaking through that barrier without making turn over mistakes will be huge for us.
Breakaways = death with the RW…and we gotta not take stupid pentalies…here’s looking at you Capt’n Hook.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
/standard make me a sammich comment
Seriously though, the womenfolk here are respected because you guys bring a lot to the table in terms of discussion— I haven’t seen any difference in posting quality. Like Elvis said, hockey fans are cool.
The only thing you should be intimidated by is a Red Wings power play with two minutes remaining in the third with the Sharks up by a goal.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Need Huskins to come up with some more epic blocks
by sharks in oc on Apr 28, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That block was awesome
Still, Boyle’s sliding block of the pass in OT in game 4 is the play that stands out in my mind as one of the best defensive plays in the series.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
That was a beauty of a block. Dan fucking Boyle man. What a player.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
naw
Blake just needs to hipcheck the hell out of everyone else. ;)
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It's time for some Rocky Balboa!
It’s about how hard you can get it and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done!
It doesn’t matter how hard Detroit has hit us in the past. We’ve taken our hits. It’s time to keep moving forward.
This team has a scoring depth they haven’t ever had in the playoffs. The Pavelski line has been awesome. The Thornton line is due to step up. The Couture line has chipped in at key times, as has the Nichol line, while providing energy. This team’s forward corps can really make life difficult on teams. But they have to all show up to play. If the good Sharks team shows up, we can do this. The Sharks are more talented top to bottom. If they take advantage of their depth, there’s a good chance the Sharks can continue to roll!
The Sharks have to take advantage of home ice advantage, as well. Win the first two games at home, and the series is ours. If they can do that, my prediction might not be so far fetched.
Sharks in 5.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
That’s a bold statement – I like it. Doubt it will happen, but I like it.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
Have faith!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Game 1
Most important game in Franchise History.
Sitting on a loss that would negate home ice and having to stew on it until Sunday? No thanks.
WIN THAT GAME. And let them sit with the thought that we beat their asses and we plan to do it again in 3 days.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Indeed. It’s definately time to break the string of game 1 losses…
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Game one is soooo important for all the reasons you mentioned. Can’t be falling into a series hole against Detroit.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Winning a game 1 would go a long way to inspire the Sharks confidence this series.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
And it would go a long way for our mental health.
by sharks in oc on Apr 28, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
We're Sharks fans
it’s too late for our mental health.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
just mental?
how about physical health..I’m sure my heart has aged immensely since Game 1 of the last series…man COL gave us a run for our money initially…but thats over with so onto the RW.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
yep...
baibai liver you were so good to me.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That fourth line has been so effective thus far in the postseason. Can’t believe I forgot to mention that in the preview, good point.
Sharks in 5 is a stretch though haha. Pass me the bottle of whatever you’re drinking!
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I keep having these awesome dreams where we win the home games, steal one at the Joe and finish it up at home. Then I wake up and can do nothing but hope they come true.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
See, that’s how it happens. Win at home, steal one at the Joe. MAKE IT HAPPEN, SHARKS!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I’m a Sharks fan, and it could, technically happen. So why not predict it! If I’m right, well, I’m awesome. If I’m wrong, and the Sharks win in 7, well, everyone else already predicted that. lol.
Nichol’s line has been awesome, no matter who he’s playing with. McGinn, Ortmeyer, Mitchell, Malhotra…doesn’t matter. Always a ton of energy. AND they’ve chipped in some goals. I love it. That’s where I think our biggest advantage comes from.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Naw man
I’m feeling Sharks in 5 too. I picked “Sharks in 4 or 5” on the poll, but 4 is straight up crazy. Winning in 5 I think is definitely a little optimistic but i don’t think it’s unrealistic.
I think the Sharks definitely take the Forward category. We got some serious depth in our forward lines. I think our 3rd and 4th lines match up much better against Detroits bottom 4 d-men than their 3rd and 4th lines match up against our bottom 4 d-men. Demers makes me nervous though, he really is a huge question mark. I think we’d be much better off swapping him out for Wallin (if he’s all healed up) or rolling with 7 d-men; although i dunno if i’m confident putting Demers on the powerplay either, especially if guys like Datsyuk are going to be out there against him. (does Datsyuk play on the penalty kill? I don’t remember but it seems like he would, being Mr. Selke and all)
I think the deciding factor for us will be how well we can limit our penalties taken. Detroit’s powerplay is straight up terrifying and limiting penalties taken should be one of the main focuses throughout the series against Detroit. If we can do that I really think we can do well against the Red Wings and win in 5 games. We’ll see what happens tomorrow though. (I can’t believe game 1 is tomorrow holy shitttt)
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[Holmstrom’s ass on the] powerplay is straight up terrifying and limiting penalties taken should be one of the main focuses…
Done
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Nail on the head
The third line of San Jose could be the difference maker in this series, but that REQUIRES WITHOUT ANY CAVEATS that HTML shows up. One line carried the load and two others chipped in against Colorado, but it’s four lines or the end for us against Detroit.
Attack Attack Attack Attack Attack Attack.
Those are the keys this series. Detroit has the better blue line without question, but the secret to beating any blue line is to pressure them. Particularly Detroit, as they aren’t the biggest (although Kronwall is a large man) and when you look at a guy like Stuart, you can force him to make bad plays. But if you let them start the attack, they have us dead to rights.
Detroit does not turn the puck over, which I think might make the Push in the forward department a bit optimistic, particularly given our penchant for them this year. Again, whatever gameplan we have, however you dice up the predictions, it’s all moot unless HTML show up and eliminate the turnovers from their game.
Sharks in 7. Thornton makes Lambert cry into a frosty adult beverage and New York Rangers fans eat their words about not wanting any piece of Patty in the off-season, and start demanding waiving Redden and Rozivol to make room. Joe Pavelski scores a hat trick at the Joe.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Detroit does not turn the puck over, which I think might make the Push in the forward department a bit optimistic, particularly given our penchant for them this year. Again, whatever gameplan we have, however you dice up the predictions, it’s all moot unless HTML show up and eliminate the turnovers from their game.
It’s definitely an optimistic point of view, but I actually really like a healthy Heatley on line three with Couture and Malhotra. If Thornton and Pavelski can hold serve with Datsyuk and Zetterberg (I think it’s definitely possible), we match up well there.
Key word is “if” obviously. As is generally the case with those players.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I think our depth definately gives us the edge in a push, as you pointed out. Our third and fourth lines have been very very good…with room for improvement. If we can take advantage of those matchups, well, it could bode very well for us.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
and advocate for Mitchell to play with Thornton and Marleau? Not a bad idea. But Heatley would give Joe the playmaker the sniper he’s been looking for. Mitchell doesn’t have the soft hands and Marleau is MIA.
What about dropping Marleau down to the 3rd line? Sacrilege?
Patty Marleau: An Erotic Life
Picked overall #2
Adored by the faithful
Trade rumors abound
Turns-around career
Year of the Cup?
Joe Pavelski: Real- American Mojo
by Will Bulldozer on Apr 28, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be okay with that.
If they have chemistry and it just prevents the Wings from perfectly matching up, I am all for it.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Apr 28, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts:
Break up the Big Three. All of them. Don’t let them near each other.
Nobody can withstand the firepower of our fully armed and operational depth-scoring.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
WOO
Habs 1-0.
Oh wait, wrong thread…
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
attn whore
:P
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
And how!
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
hahahahahah
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Jerk.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ole, ole… oLE, oLEoLEoLE…
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
That's my ringtone.
Or it was. It’s still my alarm.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
Go Red Wings
GO WINGS….in all seriousness though I have a lot of respect for the sharks as an overall likable group. Not a bunch of cheaters like Anaheim. High quality, high class. Looking forward to the series we didnt get last year. Hope to keep it relatively civil with you guys throughout…
Welcome
And cheers. Here’s to a hard series with much respect. Go Sharks, and Go Hockey!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
If the Sharks approach this series in a way similar to how they approached the Avs series you may not like us much anymore. The Sharks came out trying to physically crush the Avs. The theory was it would wear them out by the end of the series. With Detroit coming off a game 7 just 2 days prior I have to believe they’re going to try and finish all of their checks. It should be a physical battle out there.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Another Wild Card
Knowledge. I like Todd McLellan. He’s a good coach who learned from his mistakes last season. But honestly, there’s no one better than Mike Babcock.
I actually am a bit miffed this point is coming up more.
This has to be a story line this series. Yes, the media will push it and manufacture it, but there’s no way Todd McLellan isn’t a factor this series.
The honeymoon period is certainly over. I’ve been a bit critical of the coach this season, so I should be on the record for it, but this series will certainly test the young coach’s mettle.
Plank’s already explained how the matchups are going to shake out, but ultimately, McLellan and his staff are going to have to try and use that to their advantage with home ice.
The adjustments against Colorado certainly show that the coaches CAN read deficiencies in the game and work to correct them.
But that was one round against another rookie bench boss. If the Wings are the Empire, Babcock isn’t Vader, he’s the gorram emperor. Man knows his tactics, but more than anything, he knows his team, and how to keep them even keel. Witness their bounce back and domination in Game 7 against Phoenix. Yes, he can let guys like Lidstrom do the heavy lifting in the room, but for sure, you know the man who replaced Scotty Bowman AND won a Cup to boot knows his job.
This series will determine if Todd McLellan has a future as an NHL tactician, or if he’ll be relegated to trying to motivate young underachieving teams into the playoffs without ever taking them all the way.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Reading this got me pumped up!
I’m really excited for tomorrow!
Keeping it real. Keeping it fresh. Keeping it real fresh.
SCHEDULE RELEASED
Post will be updated.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
No NBC? They must really hate the Sharks there for them to keep the Wings off the Network.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't blame NBC
Blame hockey writers. If they every actually WATCHED a Sharks game, they’re realize their same old story was blatantly false.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
It’s weird— the Bay Area is one of the biggest media markets in the nation (sixth maybe, but that’s probably wrong). I would think that a matchup with Detroit would be a big money ticket for NBC.
Whatevs. No Doc is always a positive.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
For a league whose stated purpose with expansion was to get into MORE TV markets
It is mystifying. Again showing that having non-hockey people making hockey decisions leads to questionable results.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Two weekday games at 4:30 so far
Fuck you NHL.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
This is what makes me the most upset. I don’t know how’d you’d avoid it though. An hour later maybe
by pooponastick on Apr 28, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They got west coast games at 6 and 5
instead of our usual 7:30.
Fuck the NHL.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Yeah
We get one. ONE game at a semi-normal start time.
The shit is this fuck?
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
For those interested— it sounds as if CSN won’t be covering games one and two. Here’s the relevant excerpt from the press release:
The first two games of the series will be carried exclusively in the United States on VERSUS. A detailed local television schedule on Comcast SportsNet California will be released shortly.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Thankfully, it looks like there aren’t any series conflicts. So we won’t have to wait for the game to be joined in progress for the first two.
"You can always find more jam. There’s never enough jam." - Scott Nichol
by live every week like it's shark week on Apr 28, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
yea but we don't get
Randy and Drew….:I
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 28, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
this is bullshit
Patty Marleau: An Erotic Life
Picked overall #2
Adored by the faithful
Trade rumors abound
Turns-around career
Year of the Cup?
Joe Pavelski: Real- American Mojo
by Will Bulldozer on Apr 28, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome to the NHL TV contract
Per their contract with the NHL, Versus gets to claim two games in each round 2 series to be exclusive to the network and blocks and local networks from showing them.
This is practice for round 3, where all games are national TV (read: Versus and NBC) only. No more local networks once the Conference Finals start.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
Man these previews do something fierce to my nips.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
And I know, I say a lot of silly things here.
I don’t talk about hockey as much as I’d like to.. But I’m a football writer. I’m a football analyst, I look silly when I talk about hockey. I feel like I have just as deep an understanding about San Jose’s merits in this series, the importance of the depth, the first line lessening turnovers, Nabby being Nabby, I just feel sometimes when I articulate these I come out a blathering fool. So, I don’t intend to speak off topic, I’ll endeavor to post things that a bit more fleshed out and a bit less about my diamond-cutting nippulars.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
A long long time ago.......
I was a young teen and a newer hockey fan. The young Sharks beat the fabled Red Wings in the playoffs. I played “We are the Champions” at such a volume I blew out my Dad’s speakers. Now I would like the same feeling and will have my speakers ready to be replaced.
GO SHARKS….
Fuck da WINGS!!!!
My own playoff preview
I had an octopus at the Korean BBQ today. I put it down in about 6 bites. An omen perhaps?
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
GO MTL!!!
"It's a very cozy sin bin."-Randy Hahn
"Hold onto your seats because we're coming" - Ryan Clowe
"We cannot not work hard... we coasted in on the playoffs last year if we coast in then we're going to coast our way right out." - Dan Boyle
for the Caps that is…
Keeping it real. Keeping it fresh. Keeping it real fresh.
by check.check. on Apr 28, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
President Trophy Curse has been lifted!
"It's a very cozy sin bin."-Randy Hahn
"Hold onto your seats because we're coming" - Ryan Clowe
"We cannot not work hard... we coasted in on the playoffs last year if we coast in then we're going to coast our way right out." - Dan Boyle
more like punted
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Thanks man, will update.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Digging The Dark Knight reference.
Defense and the play of HTML are the keys in this series. If HTML steps it up, and Murray plays like he did earlier in the year then I like our chances.
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" club.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Apr 28, 2010 7:06 PM PDT reply actions
The Sharks can do this, for sure. Game 1 will be pretty key, methinks. And HTML HAS to step up and fucking play at least as well as Pav’s line played last series (with Pav’s line continuing to own as well).
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
TOMORROW NEEDS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by SharksFanTillDeath on Apr 28, 2010 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
Tomorrow can’t come soon enough.
Keeping it real. Keeping it fresh. Keeping it real fresh.
by check.check. on Apr 28, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
All I know is
If the Habs can come back from 3-1 in the series to beat the Caps, then anything can happen.
Bring it, Detroit. Bring everything you’ve got, ‘cause you’re gonna need it.
Go Sharks!
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
Haha, we can only hope!
Pitt is gonna be well rested come the 4th round.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Montreal can beat Pittsburgh.
/notgonnahappen
by In Bust we Trust on Apr 28, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Rofl, they have a better chance than Boston or Philly
/barf
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
NOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Why does Versus have to broadcast the first 2 games?
ZOMGREDWINGS!!!!
That’s why…
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
EASTCOASTDEMANDSIT!!!
They wants their precioussss
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Apr 28, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Murray talked about emulation, and yeah we’d like them to emulate the formula of a winning franchise like the Wings, but all the Wings are doing is emulating the formula for winning hockey; a formula that was written down on a notebook 100 years ago, in the dead of winter, by a frozen pond in Canada somewhere.
Net presence. Holmstrom. The perennial thorn in your side if your team has ever faced the Wings and come out the worse. We’re catching on. Case in point: Clowe and the second line as a whole.
Firing pucks to the net from the point, and from the faceoff circles, on the man advantage and at full strength alike. Watching the Wings last night, they were positively pummeling Bryz the entire night from this area, and thanks to nearly constant execution of the aforementioned net presence, got and took advantage of second, third, and fourth chances.
Honestly, that wilted, faded notebook may contain more than that, but then again, it may not. The team that wrote it down was probably too busy scoring goals to finish it.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on Apr 28, 2010 8:12 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wings land Wed. 49min after curfew. Fine to be paid.
Mercury News
Home Airport Advantage
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Apr 28, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions
Even when flying, they’re douchebags.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Octopi team flies on a DC-9?
Seriously…a DC-9…can they fly on a plane that is still in production? There are 216 of them still in civil service.
By contrast, the Sharks fly on a 737…a plane used by 500 airlines around the world and by some military.
No matter what happens from here on out...
the Sharks will not be remembered as this year’s choke team.
Thanks, Caps!
Also we'd like to thank
The Devils
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
Just thank the whole Eastern Conference for sucking immensly.
by In Bust we Trust on Apr 28, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much this.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to my dream last night
and this thread, I have a LOTR theme for the Sharks v Wings in round 2. No idea what I’m doing for anyone else yet, but I’ll figure that out.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
yea how weird
everyone started talking about LOTR all at the same time in different little conversations within the thread…we’re all in tune with each other…lets hope the boys are tonight
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 29, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it's fair to state that the Sharks have no business winning this series
if they can’t win at least once at Joe Louis. Home-ice advantage was the reward for finishing 1st in the West, but Detroit has had their success at the Tank.
Patty Marleau: An Erotic Life
Picked overall #2
Adored by the faithful
Trade rumors abound
Turns-around career
Year of the Cup?
Joe Pavelski: Real- American Mojo
I really don’t care how the Sharks win the series, as long as they win it.
by In Bust we Trust on Apr 28, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
If they win in 7 by only winning at home, that’s fine by me. So “no business” is probably a wrong choice of words. But they are unlikely to win if they don’t win at least once at the Joe, that’s for damn sure.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL President's Cup Winnah
Habs take down Ovie’s boyz.
Now the road to the Cup has to pass through 525 West Santa Clara. Just like the year before!
Oh wait…
Those who walk on eggshells rarely leave footprints.
maybe
i guess i can’t skip giving seminar presentations to watch 3 of these games. fuu early starts.
Just came from the ESPN site for Sharks and Octopi
According the scientific poll conducted there…we are 2 to 1 underdogs
http://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2010/matchup/_/teams/sharks-redwings
I don’t really expect anyone to give us a shot this series. Which is fine. The Sharks can play the underdog role just fine.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh
Is it game time yet? This has been worse than waiting for Game 1 against the Avs.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I’ve kinda enjoyed the stress free break. Watching some awesome hockey without having to worry about our boys because they’re already through? Pretty awesome.
But it’s time, now. Bring on the Wings!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
because they really want us left coasters to enjoy the playoffs too
the boston-philly game on saturday is at 1230 ET :(
anyone want to get together sunday for game 2? stanley’s or something?
Speaking of Detroit series..
.. I think Marleau is going to redeem himself for 2007.
Still remember it as if it was yesterday.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Sick Of Being The Redheaded Stepchild
Ok Sharks, this is your time to stop being beaten like a redheaded stepchild by the Wings anymore. Its time to step up and beat up the bully.
I think with the kids leading us, maybe the scar tissue from past failures, will be less significant this year. We need the kids line with Pavs, leading the way, and showing these Wings that the past is just that, the past.
Go Sharks!!

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