Sharks defeat Red Wings 4-3, take 1-0 series lead
by Mr. Plank on Apr 29, 2010 11:32 PM PDT
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For the first time in three postseasons the Sharks won game one of a playoff series, doing so against a team that has historically held the upper hand throughout their encounters. The level of trepidation usually associated with the off-days leading up to game two has been replaced with a form of intrigue, monumental heart palpitations downgraded to slight tremors.
Joe Pavelski opened the scoring nine minutes into the first, with Dany Heatley and Devin Setoguchi following up in the span of 1:19. Pavelski scored his second of the night during a 5 on 3 to start the third, which eventually proved to be the game winner.
The need to put the win into context is unnecessary. As it was in 2007, an opening night win does not guarantee anything but exactly that-- a one game lead heading into game two. But for a team that has always managed to put the wrong foot forward when entering into pivotal matchups, this was a victory of the highest order, a beacon bursting through a crimson sky, a way to alleviate the enormous pressure that will cascade down upon them until a second round victory is procured.
They did so without Patrick Marleau, who skated in pregame warmups but was eventually held out due to illness. It was a page Todd McLellan took out of his former mentor's book, a tactical maneuver that changed the situational matchups Mike Babcock is so adept at exploiting. And while it probably proved to be a cursory point of note by the end of the second shift, resulting in a Sharks team without one of their best players, it showed that McLellan has taken to heart the importance of wringing out any advantage he can get his hands on.
Alas, the true and tangible advantage that the Sharks held tonight was their shorthanded unit. In 8:41 of penalty kill time San Jose held Detroit to a mere four shots on net, stymying each and every opportunity the Red Wings had to hop back into the game. They closed down shooting lanes by aggressively pressuring the puck carriers, clogged the center of the ice when the puck went to the point, and kept the Wings dangerous attack to the periphery upon entry into the zone. It was a masterful job by the notable leaders-- Pavelski, Malhotra, Vlasic, and Blake. It was made even more intriguing by the addition of Joe Thornton, who stepped into Patrick Marleau's shoes and punched his card to the tune of two minutes and three seconds.
Speaking of Thornton, the level of play he displayed tonight was in line with what has been expected to him since being traded to the Sharks in 2005. Right out of the gate he set up Devin Setoguchi and Dany Heatley with marvelous opportunities between the circles, and while those didn't find the twine, he eventually connected with the aforementioned Heatley on a slick thread from behind the net to put the Sharks up by two. It was his best game of the postseason despite going up against Niklas Lidstrom for the majority of the night. He threw around the body, asserted himself with the puck, and showed a little bit of nasty by giving Detroit goaltender Jimmy Howard a snow shower at the end of the first period.
The Sharks did an excellent job of winning puck battles along the boards, the greatest cliche after a victory, but one that ultimately holds true. They were tenacious in this regard, and coupled with the lack of turnovers at the blueline, did an excellent job of limiting the dangerous transition game of Detroit that has buried many teams before them.
Joe Pavelski. What else can you say about this kid other than he is absolutely playing the best hockey of his career right now. Dan Boyle logged twenty eight minutes of ice time tonight in a standard performance, adding three assists and quarterbacking the power play to a two-goal night. The third line of Jamie McGinn, Logan Couture, and Manny Malhotra generated their fair share of opportunities as well, making it a trifecta of positive performances from the Sharks best forward groups.
Line four was noticeably absent tonight, with all three players (Nichol, Helminen, Ortmeyer) seeing below six minutes of time at even strength. This is in direct juxtaposition to the Colorado series, where Todd McLellan relied on his bottom line to generate energy shift after shift. The loss of Patrick Marleau likely played a large role in this (with McGinn being promoted), but it is something to pay attention to as the series goes along. If McLellan is unable to find situations where he is comfortable playing this group in HP Pavilion, it may mean an even shorter bench when the series heads to Detroit.
The Sharks managed the puck well, making sure to get it deep into the zone and make Detroit work for their opportunities. Their zone entry on the power play was nearly flawless, and for a unit that has had historical trouble in this regard during the postseason, it was excellent to see. Jimmy Howard's propensity to give up 2007 Marc-Andre Fleury esque rebounds was identified, and will be taken advantage of by ripping low slap shots during the remainder of the series.
However, breakdowns in the Sharks own zone nearly allowed Detroit to play their way back into this game. Without a perfect penalty kill and deadly power play on every single night, these are the things that will haunt the dreams of everyone involved if they are not rectified. Jed Ortmeyer was caught horribly out of position on the Red Wings first goal, and although Jonathan Ericcson made a wonderful pass to Dan Cleary from the halfboards, there is no excuse for leaving the front of the net as free and unmolested as it was. Ryane Clowe blew a clear on Detroit's second goal with the majority of the team exiting the zone prematurely, leaving Johan Franzen with a great chance to fire a shot into the upper right hand corner with Dan Cleary setting a screen that amounted to nothing short of a brick wall in front of Nabokov. Brian Rafalski found a gaping seam at the middle of the circles to put the Red Wings within one at the beginning of the third.
However, all in all tonight was a victory that was well-earned, and one that showed just how great this series will be.
With both teams trading opportunities for the majority of the game, and Pavel Datsyuk exhibiting signs that he may be an extraterrestial superman who decided to pick up ice hockey, it's a distinct possibility the number of heart attacks in the Bay Area increase as we go along.
Can't say I would want it any other way.
Go Sharks.
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No off-day hand wringing indeed.
A well-played game! Confidence!
I have a feeling Detroit comes to play big time Sunday night. They seemed a little off at the drop of the puck, and began to find their legs more and more as the night went on. Those two days of rest should be big for them.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Second Period is a period of concern
I disagree with you a bit on Ortmeyer’s positioning on the Cleary goal. He’s the forward, his job should be to take the point. Cleary should have been Huskins man.
In the end, communication solves that play, but no one had it. So, fault all around.
Clowe didn’t have great defensive positioning on the second goal, shades of some of his darker stretches during the regular season.
There is lots to be worked on here. Good thing it’s coming off a win.
The playoffs are all about the relentless pursuit of perfection. I’m pretty sure the boys are in the process of putting this game behind them and working on the next one. We need that attitude the rest of the way, because it is such a LONG way.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
It definitely was a huge breakdown, and Demers has some fault during that play as well for chasing Drew Miller all the way into the corner. Terrible play by all.
But when things break down, Ortmeyer needs to recognize it’s a busted play and adapt. He’s headed to the point to cover (who should theoretically be) his man, but you just can’t leave Cleary in front all alone.
“Fault all around”, like you said, probably would have been a better way to phrase it.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
aside from the breakdown and “shit happens” did anyone notice during the replay of this open side goal, Nabokov turned his head for a split second to check his defense’s positioning when Ericcsson threaded that pass to Cleary, he just never saw it. I don’t know if Nabby was checking the defense or pleading for coverage but the timing was unreal in slo-mo, made me want to hit the do-over button for Nabbs.
Overall really good game to watch and the best result we could hope for.
I'll drink that! oh...I'll drink TO that, oh crap I quit drinking.
Yes I saw it. Like a fourth sister in Macbeth, he predicted the play even before Orts started forward. I think he was wavering btw trusting his instincts and trusting his defensive (all in that fraction of a second). He prob wishes for puppet strings on his defense.
by ToddMclellan'shair on Apr 30, 2010 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Hitting
was so evident in the First and so lacking in the Second when Detroit took over. If the Sharks are going to be successful they need to hit consistently for the whole 60 minute effort. Their greatest advantage is their size, they can ware down a team that has had no rest. It’s unfrotunate that the Wings have two days off…of course that gives Marleau a chance to recover, so tuchet.
that is a BIG ten four
I'll drink that! oh...I'll drink TO that, oh crap I quit drinking.
by theneverman on Apr 30, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
and Pavel Datsyuk exhibiting signs that he may be an extraterrestial superman who decided to pick up ice hockey
What, the shape of his head wasn’t enough of a giveaway that he isn’t human? Lookit that noggin!
But good recap regardless, Plank. Like Elvis, I have some concerns (the defense on the Detroit goals, yeesh), but at least the Sharks were able to overcome them and win anyway.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
Close enough!
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
He actually looks like my dad when he was young.
I wonder if I’m Datsyuk’s brother.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
If you are Datsyuk’s brother, maybe it’s time to reconnect with him! Take him out for a nice dinner, maybe some sleeping pills, maybe a trip around the world starting now. It would be a sweet moment!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
A Russian cyborg. The KGB must have had their hand in his creation.
There is no way that man is comprised entirely of XY chromosomes.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Outside of Nabokov, he’s probably the biggest Russian draft steal in the history of all Russian players.
Interestingly, both played for Dynamo, which does have tied to police and secret services, so your theory might have some merit.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Great recap Plank.
Saw TCY in the first intermission. We both agreed that Thornton’s 1st period was off the charts and we could barely recognize him this time of the year. In the 1st period, he was easily the best player on the ice.
I don’t even know what to think of this Pavelski. But we can thank Ron Wilson at least twice for this. Once for breaking him into the roster, and second for including him on the Olympic roster (I have no desire to give Burke any credit). Once his name was announced at the Winter Classic, Pavs was never the same again.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
It really gives me faith going forward. If Thornton can play such as this for the rest of this series, the Sharks will be in good hands.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
because the Versus crew blows, I head one mention of Jumbo not being out on the ice at the end but never any mention of it again. Did they distract me with words or was it the fother-muckin’ pop up ads that caused me to blow out an eyeball during the game?
I'll drink that! oh...I'll drink TO that, oh crap I quit drinking.
IMO
A wee too much puck dumping. It’d be nice for them to switch it up and skate it into the zone once in awhile once it was apparent the dump and chase wasnt working
Yeah I noticed that as well. I think we have a fair number of players that can beat the Wings
to loose pucks. Manny in particular tonight clearly hit the afterburners before the game. Gee whiz he was a beast tonight.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on Apr 29, 2010 11:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The first 15 minutes of the game reminded me of Russia-Canada game. Except this time Babcock was on the other bench. As was Nabokov, thank God.
Interesting that McLellan strikes first in this battle.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Yeah, epic night at the Tank. Huge win for the boys and I was overall impressed with the effort, particularly on special teams. That goal
where Cleary was just left wide open next to the crease was inexcusable. Nabby should’ve been shouting at his team to pick him up. The other two goals, well, they were defensive blunders but it’s also the Wings we’re playing, and they’re not going down without a fight. I’m pretty sure it’s impossible to get in their heads, but they can definitely be worn down physically, outhit, and outplayed.
If we’re going to complain about officiating, how about the bullshit roughing call on Couture. I’ve never seen such discipline. Dude was taking punches to the face and not reacting. I was aghast that they sent him to the bin as well; he got his ass kicked for nothing.
After our 3 goals, that place was nuts. I think HP peaked at 111dB tonight (I assume that’s what the “noise meter” displays). It was definitely sobering when they made it interesting, though.
I genuinely believe we earned this win. The Wings came to life for a while after our third goal, but much like the Colorado series, the blueline did a great job of adapting to the Wings’ style as the game progressed. They did a great job forcing players to the outside, breaking up passes, and minimized the danger of the Wings’ speedy transition game by playing smart in the neutral zone. Lots of great poke checks and back checks by all the guys tonight. Clowe’s line was once again beastly, and I think it forced the Wings to spread out their defensive corps, leading to the top line being able to create some great chances.
Oh, and special teams. What a dream,
they were. 2 for 5(?) on the PP, and stupendous penalty killing by and large. Again, we earned that win, and really did outplayed the Wings for the second half of the game.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on Apr 29, 2010 11:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
unfortunately
the noise meter is a fraud lol
by Brittjames11 on Apr 29, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
couture
I thought it was odd that couture was called too, but the replay showed he threw a couple of jabs to start cleary off. its just another situation where they would call the retaliation and let couture go, but conspiracy theorists would say couture had to go because it was v. detroit.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Loved Thornton’s play tonight. Aside from persevering despite having Lindstrom on his ass all night, he actually shot the puck on several occasions, finished checks, and man, that ice shower was huge. It’s little details like that which get in people’s heads…well, as much as it’s possible to get in Detroit’s heads.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on Apr 29, 2010 11:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I am a thornton critic and was very impressed with him all over the ice including the late stages of the game when the versus crew were missing him. they were a bit busy drooling over the wings
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Well, versus had every right to drool over the Wings. They are an impressive bunch of hockey players who never lose and always are on their game. Wait, what? The Wings lost? Good lord, CONSPIRACY!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice recap
Very nice conveying the feeling and meaning behind this win.
One thing though: Was it not Huskins that left his man Cleary out in the open? Huskins was on him and then was trying to communicate with his team while he kind of floated towards center ice leaving the crease unguarded. At least that’s what I saw!
GO SHARKIES
Nevermind!
Just watched the replay and see it’s Orty! Hard to see the numbers from Row 19 upper level at the tank sometimes!!
If the Sharks win on Sunday
I’ll have to book plane tickets for the rest of the game days. In the air for game 1: Sharks victory. In the air for game 2: we’ll see how that goes.
Hopefully
it’s San Jose and Vancouver in the WCF. Detroit and Chicago are original franchises, I know, but I think Sharks and Canucks would be more fun.Hopefully, my Pens don’t choke like the Caps did. Good luck throughout the series!
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Apr 30, 2010 12:33 AM PDT reply actions
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Great recap. I can’t wait for game two on Sunday. Ideally the Sharks win again at home, steal one in Detroit, and end it back in HP Pavilion in 5 games. =]
by teal_and_orange on Apr 30, 2010 12:47 AM PDT reply actions
Torrey Mitchell
Definitely deserves some props imo. He’s so good defensively, I love it. It’s like having another Marc-Edouard Vlasic out there (mostly just cuz how good he is at using his stick defensively) except he’s faster and more tenacious, and he doesn’t have to worry so much about positioning and whatnot, he can just run wild pressuring people and breaking shit up. He was even giving Datsyuk a run for his money at points in the game.
I wonder what the lines will look like with Marleau back. Mitchell looked great out there against Datsyuk and i think Tmac should try to always have him on the ice with Datsyuk going forward. Mitchell + Blake or Vlasic would work well to shutdown Datsyuk imo. Since Babcock seems to like having Datsyuk out against Thornton, that means Mitchell needs to stay on the top line with Joe.
So do you put Marleau with Thornton and throw Heatley back on that 3rd line with Couture?
Thornton and Heatley were clicking tonight so i dunno if we want to break that up; although Marleau and Thornton usually have great chemistry too. It really all depends on how Marleau is playing. Lets hope his poor play recently has been due to some flu or something, and next game he explodes with a hat trick.
Most likely Marleau will be back on the top line with Joe, and Heater will be on the 3rd line with Couture since that combination has had some success in the past; which kinda sucks cuz I thought McGinn looked good on that 3rd line tonight, but then again Mcginn looks good wherever he is. allhomo
LOL AIGHT, I’m just rambling my thoughts into this giant post now so i’m just gonna stop. GOD I CAN’T WAIT TIL SUNDAY! AHHH!
I agree with the Mitchell props. He’s been playing so well in these playoffs.
Keeping it real. Keeping it fresh. Keeping it real fresh.
by check.check. on Apr 30, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Mitchell has been great during these playoffs. Can’t say enough about the guy, good point.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
It’s funny how so many of the people who’s contracts were heavily questioned during the regular season are actually living up to those pay checks in the post season.
Clowe, Mitchell, Huskins…
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I know we’ve all done our part to give these guys credit when they picked it up, both on the front page and in the comments, but this is a good idea for a summary type article later down the line. These three guys have really made a big impact on the team.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
how bout Nabby's workload?
the general feeling was he plays too much regular season.
7 games in and he looks mighty fine.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
He’s been in the zone ever since game 2 against the Avs.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
i thought he looked lethargic post to post down the stretch but looks pretty confident right now.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
He’s played great but even last game he looked pretty slow getting back to his feet a lot. Him being slow to get up never lead to a goal or anything so maybe Nabby is just being economical. Hopefully when he really needs to recover quickly, because shots are still being put on net, he will.
So do you put Marleau with Thornton and throw Heatley back on that 3rd line with Couture?
Thornton and Heatley were clicking tonight so i dunno if we want to break that up; although Marleau and Thornton usually have great chemistry too. It really all depends on how Marleau is playing. Lets hope his poor play recently has been due to some flu or something, and next game he explodes with a hat trick.
This is also a good point. Going into the series I thought that Heater would play with the third line since that is what DP was reporting. With Marleau injured or “sick” (I still don’t completely buy that), it might be prudent to demote him.
I’ve always been a big proponent of splitting up HTML (although it was to switch Marleau and Gooch— with that second line playing lights out right now my previous idea is blown out of the water), and historically have felt that Heatley should play with Thornton (which changed when Heater was playing injured— give him easier looks).
I like the idea of Marleau on the third. Spreads out the scoring, keeps line two intact. We’ll see what happens on Sunday and go from there.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
ooooo
think coach sent him a message?
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Nah
I think Marleau had a fever and was in no shape to play the game.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
woulda been a HUGE message
hope it was that simple and he comes out flying
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
There's just no way I see McLellan sitting Marleau
in game 1 to send a message. Maybe if we were up 3-0 and he had looked horrible.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Exactly.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I remember the 6 game losing streak
The big guys weren’t producing, Nabby was struggling and his solution was to just play them more.
His message is basically if we lose, that’s on you. Get out there and play.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Despite Marleau's lack of production in the first round
He was still a 40+ goal scorer in the regular season…the Octopi would have had to game plan around him…
You can’t outthink yourself…you have to rely on the horses (or the Sharks) that got you here in the first place.
you have to rely on the horses (or the Sharks) that got you here in the first place.
The seahorses.
Okay, I’m done.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Maybe it’s the eternal Patty believer in me, but I think it was a combination of an injury he’s been playing with and a sickness that came up. “Flu-like symptoms that threatened his health, but he’ll definitely be ready to go in game two” sounds a tad weird to me.
Then again, could be more mind games by McLellan. Or the actual flu. I really don’t know.
To address the original comment though, there is no way he was scratched because of his play in the Colorado series. Would have to be drunk to do that against Detroit in game one.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I don't disagree with you
I have been saying he is hurt for weeks. his play didn’t fade, it disappeared down the stretch.
would be a gutsy move for a coach though.
he did knock Jumbo down to 3rd line which I thought no one would have the stones to do.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
My thoughts exactly.
I can’t imagine he’d have been benched as a “message” — I think the mysterious whatevers-been-bothering and perhaps an illness are finally catching up.
I could see T-Mac, perhaps, jumping on something that would have otherwise gone by without incident if it were combined with a pre-existing ailment of some sort.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
You gotta think though, would Marleau really be playing with the guys at practice and whatnot if he was sick with the flu or something? No way the coaches would risk him getting the whole team sick unless Marleau didn’t say anything, but that’s not very smart/professional (and i doubt that’d be the case).
I don’t remember where i saw it last night but someone said they thought he had food poisoning or something else that isn’t contagious; which makes a lot of sense.
It's the playoffs
We’ll never know anything beyond “an undisclosed injury or illness”, really. I was shocked they said he had a fever. Hard to tell if that’s analysis or spin, though …
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
Hahaha, this comment actually sparked a debate? I thought you were being facetious!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the idea of Marleau on the third. Spreads out the scoring, keeps line two intact. We’ll see what happens on Sunday and go from there.
Whoops, looks like this was covered below in some comments. Sa la vie.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Yeah, I said this below...
I’d put Marleau on Couture’s line, personally. I like Heater with Joe, but I also have liked Mitchell up there. And Patty can fit in with Couture just fine. Drop McGinn back to the 4th line, where he was thriving with Nichol. Spread out the scoring, make us a tough team to defend.
I just think it makes too much sense not to bring Marleau back on the 3rd line. And a line with Malhotra and Marleau on it would be pretty tough defensively too. Might even be able to play some matchups and get Heater and Thornton some time against lower lines, at least at home.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Like I mentioned in the story (and Elvis, I think, mentioned in here) McLellan really got away from playing his fourth line last night, which isn’t an especially positive thing especially at home. Dropping McGinn down, while I hate it considering I love the man, is in the best interest of the team when Patty returns.
I like Marleau on the third line the more I think about it, especially his production in the playoffs. Like you said, gets him better looks, same idea we had with a possibly injured Heatley on the third before the series started.
Reunite them on the PP and you’re set.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I’d have to think, after the way they played in round 1, McL can’t keep the 4th line on the sidelines too much. I mean, they really were a shot of energy when they were on the ice most games. And I think when McGinn drops back down with Nichol, and then either Ortmeyer or Helminen…they’ll be pretty set. Line 4 didn’t see much ice time in game 1 of last series either, did they? And then they came out and owned face in game 2. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Nichol’s line making some significant contributions this series.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Has Marleau played much, or at all, on the 3rd line with Couture though?
On paper Marleau looks to make more sense on the 3rd like with Couture and Manny, and Heater makes most sense with Jumbo; but the 3rd line with Marleau is untested, while Heater has already shown that he can work well on that 3rd line.
I think everyone has played with everyone else at this point. Part of McL’s strategy at the end of the season was to keep mixing things up so everyone played with everyone else.
Also, Patty’s a professional, and always seems to fit in wherever we need him to. I’m sure he’d be fine.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If one player could play with anybody on this team, it is Marleau. He creates a lot of opportunities for himself and does just about everything on the ice, from digging pucks out of the corners to sniping from the circles. Probably the most complete player on this team. I think he’d be fine on any line.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Probably the most complete player on this team.
Dan Boyle would like a word with you.
/stupidpointlessdebate
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
for the record
I would actually love to talk to dan boyle.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Seriously. Just look at those couple of games last year when the Sharks had maybe two or three centers healthy, and Marleau had to go down to the third line and play with Goc and Grier, two of the most goal-allergic players out there. He got two goals in one game. Couture and Malhotra already have gobs more scoring ability, so he’ll be fine.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Woooooo
Still happy, though that’s not why I’m up. Papers are a bitch.
Just wanted to say that the highlights that NHL.com posted suck. Usually they have slow-mo highlights after the goals and such, but not tonight, apparently.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
I just finished a report for a big Co. here in Japan that I have been putting off all day.
by ToddMclellan'shair on Apr 30, 2010 2:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Ganbare! Hang in there. The Nabster was solid tonight. I feel like I gave birth to him. So proud.
by ToddMclellan'shair on Apr 30, 2010 3:03 AM PDT up reply actions
He did play well.
He’s determined to redeem himself for the Olympics.
And I’m all for it.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
ive hated the highlights on nhl.com for years.
never seem to show the other angles or slow mo of goals.
tsn has good highlights though, with some interviews:
http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl-games-on-demand/red-wings-vs-sharks-game-1—april-29-2010/#clip296000
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the NHL highlights
because they are no-frills…just the announcers’ reaction at the time of the highlight…they are a little short at times though.
Woooooooooo
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
WE WON!!! IM STILL REALLY EXCITED AND STUFF!
I actually think Game 2 is close to a must win, because if we lose, then we would have to win at least one game at the Joe to win the series. It would still be a good thing to win at the Joe if we had a 2-0 series lead, but then at least we would have less pressure on us.
by In Bust we Trust on Apr 30, 2010 7:37 AM PDT reply actions
GO SHARKS!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Woo!
by Born&RaisedInSJ on Apr 30, 2010 8:08 AM PDT reply actions
BABCOCK can SUCK MY CO%K
i was listening to his post game comments and he said that Setoguchi EMBELLISHED his stick in the face and was overreacting. why dont he try to get a stick in the face going that quick and see if he doesnt react that way. and plus his RED SQUID squad overreact too to always try to get stupid calls. FU&K the RED WINGS!
FYI – please avoid “Suck My Cock” or similar language. “Fuck the Red Wings” in most contexts is fine – we’re in a “Fuck Detroit” zone as is. Accordingly, I’m not going to flag this – it’s only ever so slightly over the line, but over the line nonetheless.
This comment of mine is as much for the community as it is for you, because by no means are you the primary offender.
Thanks man.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
Also, I’m not flagging it because I really do like puns, even if they’re in questionable taste ;-)
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
What if it was "suck my babcock"?
serious question.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
I saw that too. I was sitting in section 123 and I had a great view of that call. I didn’t see that much embellishment. I think the game was called poorly on both sides. The Refs need to get some consistency or we all might need to get some tin foil hats.
by Gotthelife4u on Apr 30, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
the versus crew said something like the stick touched Seto’s hands and his legs stopped working.
I crosschecked the tv at that point to see if i could get them to shut up.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Well I guess it was a win for me not having to listen to the versus crew. I bet they were bummed their beloved Red Wings lost the game.
by Gotthelife4u on Apr 30, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a win for you not having to listen to the versus crew for many more reasons
You did not have to ocularly see the pucks that was regurgitated by the hermatic Howard
Yeah, that pissed me off too. I agree that the shaft of the stick hit him in the hands and upper chest (technically still high-sticking, no?) but apparently they did not see how the end of the stick blade hit him in the mouth? The amount of delay between stick contact and collapsing to the ice was just what you would expect from a reflex “ow! my face!” reaction. If that’s diving, he’s incredible at it.
Are you talking about the Franzen/Seto call?
That looked like a dive to me, but all of the replays were late, I don’t know what led to the incident, it looked like Franzen’s stick hit Seto in the upper thigh and Seto went sprawling, clipping Franzen in the process. If that is what happened I think that’s a dive.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
they made that comment on the call in front of the net where seto got hit in the face, not the one involving Franzen.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Ah
That didn’t look like a dive to me. A lot of players fall when they get smacked in the face with a stick.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
thats why you mute the tv and listen to Dan and Jamie
"Hopefully we won't have too many more of these losses. I like winning games." Joe Thornton
"WOW, he's totally hosed" Rob Blake
by PuckFronger on Apr 30, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Note to Babcock
You’re from western Canada. You shouldn’t be whining about the refs like a pussy.
by psantangeli on Apr 30, 2010 8:12 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bleh posturing
Based on his postgame comments, I think he probably got a second look and acknowledged that it was the right call. The calling out of Seto for laying out on the ice and “embellishing” it is just him posturing for the officials in Game 2. He’s just bitter Seto drew both calls that led to the 5-on-3.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Marleau to play Sunday...
The Sharks announced just prior to the game’s start that they would be without their leading goal scorer Patrick Marleau. McLellan noted after the game that Marleau "absolutely" would be good to go for Sunday.
The Sharks need to play like 2 Live Crew, "As Nasty As They Want To Be" -Drew Remenda
by 408SharksFinatic on Apr 30, 2010 8:50 AM PDT reply actions
Nice win by the Sharks
I loved the way the Sharks passed the puck for the early 3 goals, (vintage Big Joe). I did not like the mental lapses that led to 2 of the dead wiings goals. Keep up the hard work and we will be up 2-0 going to Motown. For my last thought I just want to say the Cap’n Pav’s is the man!
It was particularly funny to hear Bailey asking the director, "You want me to say ‘nipple clipper’ as a question?" Susan Slusser via The Drumbeat 03/20/2010
Sorry MR. K
haha thanks for the consideration… I have actually never commented in here as much as I have on the Warriors forum, but babCOCK’s comments were so out of line that I HAD to comment. Anyway, I really hope the Sharks can just kill them the rest of the series because I want to see that confidence that oozes out of babCOCK’s face to just go away. His face ANNOYS me! GO SHARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your capitalization reminds me of what I heard at the Yankees-A’s game two weeks ago – “You suck, Johnson!” One dude kept chanting it, with an emphasis that left no doubt regarding the double entendre. Ushers came over to warn him, and he played the martyr. “I can’t say his name? You’re not letting me say his name?”
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
Desperation is ebbing
Every game I get a little less worried about how many current Sharks will fit under the cap next season. This team is really deep, and there are Worcester guys who are definitely ready to bring it at the NHL level. Even if some key guys depart, I’m guessing that they’re still top 4-5 in the West next year.
This season is a prime chance to reach the Cup, maybe the best Sharks team ever assembled so far, but I’m not feeling as much “now or never” as I was during the regular season.
So true
I agree, this team never seems to quit and always finds a way to compete. They have 3 tough lines to deal with and are a big team that can give teams like Detroit fits. S/B a great 6 or 7 game series, unless we just continue to go off and Howard looks average.
We are deep, but the biggest question is in goal for next season. I’m thinking we will bring back Nabby, partly because he deserves it and also because we have no one better.
I’m wondering if Marleau will be the odd man out? He will demand big money and a long-term deal, as he’s still in his prime. Sharks still have Thornton, Heatley and Boyle making a combined $22 million next year and we need to sign Pavs, Seto, Malhotra, and perhaps Wallin? But like you, I agree, there are more guys like Couture down in the AHL who can and should play on this team next year, including Greiss.
I think DW is trying to win it all this year and do some rebuilding next season, while still being competitive.
Joe Pavelski has his own official History Will Be Made Commercial now.
by U Guys R Good on Apr 30, 2010 9:35 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
Well deserved!
I must admit that I didn’t like this years ad campaign as much as last years, but it is growing on me, and it’s pretty cool that it’s the kind of thing they can add to during the playoffs.
whats with the "little joe"??
hes the Big Pavelski!
from LetsGoSharks.com
did someone already post this, if so sorry, but its good!
"And Luongo gives up a corpulent rebound" - Razor
"It's a kook fest" - Drew Remenda
"What an idiot" - Craig Rivet
"Al Stalock, his reflexes are so good he can smell a fart before someone even lays one"
by sharkiesgirl on Apr 30, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
A Joe Pavelski Dollar
Many people would say it’s not worth anything.
Truth is, it’s worth so much, it’s value is actually undefined.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
by ElvisVF101 on Apr 30, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
During World War II, the United States dropped these bills over German territory to devalue their currency. It was a resounding success.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Ha! I was actually thinking of doing something like this when they unveiled the new $100 bill
Since he’s friggin’ money
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Some guy was passing this out last night, it was awesome.
Keeping it real. Keeping it fresh. Keeping it real fresh.
by check.check. on Apr 30, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
It was probably
the guy who made them, DLD aka Letterman on LetsGoSharks.com. His stuff is pretty amazing!
"And Luongo gives up a corpulent rebound" - Razor
"It's a kook fest" - Drew Remenda
"What an idiot" - Craig Rivet
"Al Stalock, his reflexes are so good he can smell a fart before someone even lays one"
by sharkiesgirl on Apr 30, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
JOE MONEY!!!
Freaking Awesome!!!
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
Awesome
That was a quick turnaround of that footage. Actually a little surprised they didn’t use Round 1 highlights, and one with him scoring for that matter.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Maybe they thought it would look cooler if Pavelski was practically flying to setup Seto.
by U Guys R Good on Apr 30, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah that did look cool
very reminiscent of his leaping 2008 OT winner against Dallas.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
It's about time!
The NHL never uses the Sharks in their commercials…
The Sharks need to play like 2 Live Crew, "As Nasty As They Want To Be" -Drew Remenda
by 408SharksFinatic on Apr 30, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Winning this series
Admittedly, I was pleasantly surprised by the offensive onslaught in the middle of period one. I was not surprised that Detroit fought their way (almost) back in the game. It was great to see Jumbo so involved in the game early on. He is unstoppable when he plays like that. Detroit will get their goals, they’re just too good not to, but it seemed like we had some amazing chance against Howard and he didn’t seem that impressive overall. Yes he made some big saves, but he gave up big rebounds and Detroit’s D looked average. That’s the game 1 advantage we had with some rest and changing up the lines, thanks Patty. I like the idea of splitting up HTML in this series, especially if Marleau can get hot like Heatley and Thornton did in game 1. Lastly, in 2007 as I recall, we were up 2-1 in that series and about 30 seconds away from winning game 4, when Detroit tied it and won in OT. And the rest is history. Sharks winning game one is HUGE, and should (I hope) sustain them in this series, especially if they can back it up with a game two win, because it will be extremely difficult to steal one in Hockey Town. GO SHARKS!!!
Winning a game 1 is pretty awesome. I think this is our first game 1 win since…game 1 in 2007 against the Red Wings. So, we’ve clearly got a long way to go, still. But, its a good start.
The offense, when they had the puck, looked pretty awesome. They were finding passing lanes, and then taking it to Howard. If he keeps giving up those rebounds, the Sharks will score.
The defense was mostly pretty on top of it last night. Unfortunately, they had a few mental lapses, and the Red Wings capitalized on each and every one of them. It’s why they’re the best. You cannot make a mistake. But the Sharks still did hold them to only 23 shots on goal, which is pretty incredible for the amount of puck possession time they had. The Sharks were getting in passing lanes, tying things up along the boards, and chipping the puck out decently when they got into trouble, All in all, a solid effort, and one they will have to continue.
This win was huge in now they have two days off, and won’t have to spend them thinking about a loss. They can be happy with the win, and work on the things that were lacking (defensive lapses, more puck possession). Sunday will be a huge game again, and the Wings will probably come out flying, trying to even the series. The Sharks will just have to come out that much stronger.
Finally, it’s been said in this thread enough already, but Jumbo looked awesome tonight from my vantage point. Even up in the 3rd to last row of a corner, he was very noticable whenever he was on the ice. He was fired up, he was chippy, and he definately threw his body around. He was also pretty awesome on the PK, which was very much needed with Patty out. Hopefully he can keep it up. It’s time for Jumbo to come alive these playoffs and provide some supplimentary scoring to the Pavelski line.
The PK was awesome, the PP was awesome. If the boys keep these things up into the next game, they have a good chance at being up 2-0 when the series shifts to the house of horrors that is the Joe.
GO SHARKS!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
Datsyuk & Zetterberg
Datsyuk had 2 assists and no goals, I can live with that. Zetterberg was a -1 with 3 shots, zero goals & zero assists. If we can keep them off the scoring sheet, at least at HP, then we stand a great chance of winning this. We’re a deeper team and Howard is starting to look like a rookie goalie who might be getting tired.
If the boys keep these things up into the next game, they have a good chance at being up 2-0 when the series shifts to the house of horrors that is the Joe.
Hoping by the end of Sunday, the Wings will regard the house of horrors that is the “Jose.”
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Nitpicking
Jed Ortmeyer and Dwight Helminen both had less than 4 minutes of ice time. Jason Demers had less than 10. Kent Huskins had less than 12. Rob Blake played 24 minutes, and Dan Boyle played 28!
In a home game, that sort of imbalance worries me, because I am curious what we’ll do when Detroit has last change. We basically played 3 lines tonight, with Scotty Nichol contributing the odd faceoff win.
On the plus side for Coach McLellan, he clearly had a game plan in terms of the high shot blocking. It’s a gamble, allowing Detroit to have the front of the net so long as we can deny them the puck getting that far. Nabby had no chance on the three goals, and I know he was screened for at least one of them, but even the rest he had a lot of traffic.
I think this series is going to be tough on Nabby. If we stick with our current game plan, he’s not going to be credited with a lot of saves, and his numbers will look bad, which will naturally lead to criticism.
If we stick with this plan, then for sure, I think there’s no way we win the series if he doesn’t outright steal a game at the Joe.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Wallin
Is Wallin coming back soon? I think we could use him to help stabilize the D-line.
Pick you poison with the Wings, they will control the puck and capitalize on turnovers, but overall McClellan’s plan worked. Perhaps we got somewhat lucky as many Detroit chances just missed, but you could say the same thing about our scoring chances and some of Howard’s big saves.
One game at a time.
It's hard to pull Demers after his 2 point night
He looked really good on the power play. I don’t know of any glaring mistakes of his leading to goals or even high quality chances.
Then again, it might be his fault Cleary was left alone behind Nabby. Jed should have never left Cleary standing there.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Not after the way line 4 played against the Avs. We need them out there hitting people so we can tire them out by the end of the series. These guys have played a lot of hockey over the last couple years, time to make them feel like they have.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
True, but
this isn’t the Avs and McClellan didn’t play Helminen or Ortmeyer much, 3:36 & 3:51 respectively. That’s at home, so they may play even less on the road. I like Demers for his offense, but Wallin is better defensively and has a tone of playoff experience.
They did that in Game 1 before Wallin got re-hurt. I’m not sure I liked it too much (and we lost). And the 4th line, when put on the ice last series, was pretty much awesome. McL just needs to trust them more. I think he got rattled after they gave up that first goal. I’m not sure we saw them much more after that.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
True
Detroit can make anyone look bad. And since they will be spending a lot of time in our Zone, perhaps Wallin, a big body, can take some of the heat off of Nabby. Boyle cannot play 28 minutes every game.
I’d like to see Wallin in…but I’d want him to replace Demers. His pp prowess aside, he’s kind of a liability on the D end. And our forwards and Boyle and Blake can take care of things on the pp. I just really like our 4th line when it’s on.
Also, Boyle very much can play 28 minutes a night, and I think he’s going to have to if we want to win this series.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess we'll see
I think 28 minutes is too much with so many more games to play, but in the end he may have to play that much.
He’s been doing it all season. He should be used to it. If we can find places to give him a break, well, I’ll be all for it. I just don’t see it happening…and right now, I’m not too concerned about it. Whatever it takes to win this series…can’t be looking ahead to more “potential games.”
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
He and Huskins needed better communication on the Cleary goal
Both were up high and along the boards, AWAY from the front of the net when the puck was still in the zone.
One mistake, but it ended up in the back of the net. I’m not going to throw them under the bus, because they were steady the rest of the night, but they do need to clean up their game a bit. This is Detroit. Nothing less than your best.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Nabby will only get the criticism from east coast numbers junkies unless he actually slumps.
Jed may have seen limited minutes due to his injury or as a response to that glaring mistake where huskins was out of the play and he left the front of the net on the first goal.
I suspect that the gamesmanship between coaches will result in many different strategies over the course of the series.
Having a heatlhy Patty will change up the lines too.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
would you split up HTML?
I’m thinking spread the wealth, but that’s only if Pavs line continues to be en fuego!
I’d put Marleau on Couture’s line, personally. I like Heater with Joe, but I also have liked Mitchell up there. And Patty can fit in with Couture just fine. Drop McGinn back to the 4th line, where he was thriving with Nichol. Spread out the scoring, make us a tough team to defend.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I would split em up only if the other lines weren’t going. frankly with line 2 going so well the only change may be leaving Mitchell on the top line to give the third a bit of punch.
i am sure people will scream but his speed is a nice changeup with Joe and Heater and his energy and hitting (surpisingly!) was very impressive again last night.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Mitchell is the Ekman 2.0 (but better)
Liking Torrey on the 1st line. Fast and willing to dig out pucks in the corner.
Put Patty on the 3rd and spread the speed and scoring out. HTML can always be put back together
by IsThisTheYear? on Apr 30, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Marleau
Is the only ? to me right now. Seems like everyone else is going strong. It will be interesting to see how and where he fits in. We need him to score, but also to kill penalties and oh I don’t know, hit someone perhaps?
I have been maintaining that the dude is hurt. turns out he is sick. maybe that is why his skating the whole first round was weak.
he is a stud. if he is healthy he will perform.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
I tend to agree
He’s prideful and doesn’t like being singled out. So much talent, I think we’ll need some of it this series to win.
offseason
it’s always interesting looking back after we find out about the injuries. everybody craps all over guys and it turns out they are playing through some serious shit.
i slammed my hand in the car door yesterday inbetween periods. it made me think about trying to play at a high level with a broken toe or finger or getting slashed etc. the game is hard enough when you are 99%, never mind actually being hurt!
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
No Flow
the other versus comment that pissed me off was that the game had no flow. Really? Two puck possession teams firing back and forth, flying end to end, dump and chase…
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
No flow was their term for “we’re shocked the Red Wings aren’t winning.” It’s Versus. We only have to put up with it for one more game this series (in the Bay Area, anyways).
God, I’m glad I was at the game last night and didn’t have to listen to those clowns.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
it was tragic
i was so sucked into the game and every once in a while their comments were to ludicrous to ignore
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
It's a crime
To have a guy from the Tampa Bay Lightning call the game, not Randy Hahn and Drew. It was hard to listen to.
Just be thankful
it wasn’t Razor. Even though I have one of his more ludicrious analogies in my sig lol. that guy must have ALOT of time on his hands…
"And Luongo gives up a corpulent rebound" - Razor
"It's a kook fest" - Drew Remenda
"What an idiot" - Craig Rivet
"Al Stalock, his reflexes are so good he can smell a fart before someone even lays one"
by sharkiesgirl on Apr 30, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
losses are more fun
because the boards would be alive.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
take it back!
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
other teams losses
I should go read detroit’s board
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
As excited as I am
Beyond the jubilation, there echoes a voice, resounding with the pain that swelled in our home-opener loss to the Avalanche in round one.
“It’s only one game.”
Show me this effort again. Show me that we needn’t stack on goals while Detroit is reeling. Show me that this can happen again, and quiet that voice.
I know it can be done. I believe it will be done. Neither of these means it has been done. The road before us is long and fraught with Datsyuk danger. May we travel it well and emerge victorious.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
Agree...
Outside of the 1 minute 19 sec of sheer bliss…I felt that the Octopi were the better team. I doubt we will be getting another barrage of goals like that. After the Sharks’ 3rd goal…it looks like Sharks were just absorbing waves after waves of attacks from the Octopi…5 on 5 offense was fairly anemic for the Sharks (again outside of the 1:19).
The breakdowns in D were disconcerting but hopefully aberrations.
These couple days will show what McCellan is made of…the Octopi and Babcock will make adjustments…
I don’t agree at all.
I think we had very good quality chances in their zone. I thought we completely dismantled their power play. I thought we kept the puck away from Nabby for the most part in the defensive zone (sure they cycled, but were rarely a threat).
We had a lead, and unfortunately played like it for stretches, but I don’t think the Octopi played the better game.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Yeah, aside from the defensive breakdowns that lead directly to goals, I actually thought, overall, our defense was pretty on point. Holding Detroit to only 23 shots is no joke.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you guys— the game was very evenly matched. Both teams had their opportunities, and the special teams is what ruled the day for San Jose.
Sunday should be awesome. Can’t get enough of this stuff.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
God damn April, my productivity at work is plummeting like a rock, all I can think about are playoffs…
I wouldn’t have it any other way.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Hope your employer likes you
Cuz May is just around the corner
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
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Stop gang up on me!!!!
I think our D was great (except for the couple of breakdowns) but I wanted the 5-5 offense to put more pressure in the Octopi zone. We had a 2 goal lead on a number of occasions but never put the game out of reach.
Maybe its the inner Shark fan failure fear in me it felt like momentum was on the side of Octopi between the time they scored their first goal and the 5 on 3 at the end of the 2nd. The Sharks got some back with the fourth goal but it was taken away quickly.
The second was our weakest period and I was getting nervous. Pavs coming through on the power play restored my confidence in the team and looking back I don’t think the 2nd was as bad as it seemed at the time. They cycled a lot, but rarely got real pressure. It’s a problem but I think they can overcome it.
Remember how well we adjusted in game 2 for the Avs, I think we’ll look at this and break apart their game plan and adjust accordingly.
Detroit is a much better team than the Avs, so we may be spoiled on zone possession a bit. It’s going to be a battle, no way around that.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I think your concerns are relevant— there were definitely times during the game where the tide swung in Detroit’s favor. Overall though I think it was a very evenly matched game by both sides. San Jose had some good opportunities that didn’t find the net.
Both teams can play better, which is the scary and exciting part.
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I agree
I think that, overall, the game was in our favor — if only just. My concern springs from the time we spent playing as if we had the lead (which we did, of course). I’m waiting until Sunday for a chance to see an extended period where maybe we’re not up by several goals, to see if that kill-the-cycle method of safe (read: nonthreatening) play was just a “fluke” given the circumstances, or Detroit staging up against us well.
Either way, I thought both teams played pretty well. As much as I love the goal-flurry, it makes me wonder, what if only one (or hell, even two) of those had gone in? Where would we sit right now? I know it doesn’t matter, but unless we can unleash a blistering trio like that each game, we may be feeling overconfident.
That said, we did completely disassemble their Power Play, and our own was none too shabby. The D played better than I’d expected against an offensive horse like the Wings, and the forwards put up exactly the kind of show I’d hoped for (stretch passes to outside of the attacking zone notwithstanding).
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
anemic?
I thought this game could have been 7-7 or higher. There were some very nice chances both ways. Pucks shooting out to open shooters (rob blake backhand, early detroit shot through nabbys legs across the crease and so on)
other than the usual sitting on the lead for a bit, both teams attacked pretty agressively, danced with the puck, and hand plenty of chances. read a blog that credits the sharks with 21 blocks and 22 wing misses.
i definitely agree Babcock will adjust and the wings will be flying, but a bounce or two either way completely changes last night’s outcome.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Blakes backhand over the goal and McGinn’s near miss about killed me.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I had a premature fistpump on Blakey's miss
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
at least you and your buddy
didn’t get up to high five each other…LOL…we felt really stooopid after that.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
my dog took off running
and my wife thinks i’m retarded because of the aborted victory scream.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
we had a TON of those aborted victory screams last night
my buddy’s roommate who apparently isn’t into hockey had to come down to see what all the screaming and whooping was about and then dead silent (he checked on us again to make sure we didn’t die in the garage for a period then too many small outbursts coming from us in the 3rd until we won then we danced all over the place. It was amazing. My buddy’s dog probably hates us now. Hahahha
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
classic
i find myself trying to explain why i am so excited and no one gets it.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Hockey...
it makes you bi-polar apparently…
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
psst thats why you watch it with another fan
you individually don’t feel crazy talking to yourself but together its ok…;) try it…denial is the best medicine sometimes.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Anemic for the 5-5
Two of our goals come from PP (one of which was a 5 on 3).
My view is that the Sharks got quite a few of those bounces in game 1 on only won by one goal. The 1:19 scoring barrage will not likely happen again. The 5 on 3 was a semi-break…
Game One felt like the 1994 NFC championship game between the 49ers and the Cowgirls…49ers were up 21 in the first 5 minutes but the game never felt comfortable until the very end. Sharks were up 3-0 but I never felt comfortable that they were going to win until the very end. I guess a lot credit has to go to the Octopi for not giving up (when they could have easily done so).
It’s more of a looking forward view…we still have to win 3 more of these…
could be up 5
and i wouldn’t be comfortable vs. detroit.
they are that steady.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Fact.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
In the postgame
Somebody asked Nabby if he was excited when they scored those 3 goals. He replied something to the effect of ‘The thing about it is, they were really early, there was still 50 minutes of hockey left to play. If there were 3 minutes left I’d be excited, but not that early.’
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'specially
given SJ’s tendency to sit back on any lead.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
yea that was discussed last night
we certainly don’t want to turn into the yotes…even if we lead them 10-0 we still need to pretend it is 0-0…
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought they let up a little after the 3 goals
I wonder what would have happened if the Octopi had scored the 3 goals.
Need that killer instinct
Great wrap up as always.
Thornton was playing like he cared (how snippy was that snowing move? I gave him a standing O for that one) last night and as always Pavs just keeps cranking out those goals to save our hides. I’m so loving the team right now…few criticisms more finishing the check please…please make the RW eat some glass and boards please and secondly…Nabbster…you’re awesome but sometimes when you play behind the net…freaks me the hell out esp when there is a RW right on your tail.
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everytime he roams
i wee a little.
wings move the puck way too fast to make an error back there.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
exactly!!!
its like Nabby…uhm Nabby NABBY NABBY NABBY NABBY!!!!! hahahhaha I really screamed at the beginning which is bad…NABBY THESE ARE THE WINGS STAY IN THE NET!!!! Please oh god please stay there.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I was mildly annoyed with the VS. announcers bagging on how he’s no good at handling the puck.
I think I’d put him in the top 5 or 6 in the league at handling it, he’s no Turco or Broduer with it, but they all get themselves in trouble occasionally doing that.
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I agree. I happen to think Nabby’s usually pretty good with the puck. I saw him make some awesome passes last night that led to some good breakouts. On occasion he’ll look like he gets indecisive, and gives us all a heartattack, but he doesn’t tend to cost us any goals, which is key.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
his scrambling back sometimes
or scrambling to get back up…makes me wish I bought some Depends…
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I hated those announcers
did you hear when they said San Jose has one of the best places to play/watch hockey? Low ceiling, old school rink and packed to the rafters…my buddy and I were like Awweeeeeeyeaaaaaa fist bumps and soda cheers all around for some SJ love…then they said the fans deserve much more than this team…..we were just dumbfounded and we just needed to really tune them out after that.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Just saw this quote from Jumbo Joe regarding his snow cone for Howard
“They say you should stop when you get to the net,” he said, “so I did.”
WHAT?!
that’s freaking insane!!! Hahahahhahaha I love this attitude! I love his playful nasty nature…so fun. I hope hes like this all the time.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 30, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
oh man
i actually laughed like a maniac reading that. AWESOME!
by animadiversion on Apr 30, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I love
angry Joe! Good to see him showing up last night. Methinks it only gets better from here!
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Finishing up reading articles re the Sharks' win last night
Who is worse: Ratto or Purdy.
Talk amongst yourselves
Ratto imo.
Purdy i can ignore, but Ratto always shows up on pre-game live, and the post-game, and in my nightmares.
Yea it is definitely an ugly part of sports….I hate seeing what some of the media in DC is doing to Ovi and the Caps this week. So many crappy articles out there.
This Purdy guy really gets me fired up though. I am too old to drive by and throw eggs at his house. But I want to.
"I couldn't score in a women's prison with a handfull of pardons" - Drew Remenda
One is never too old to egg someone’s house.
You may, however, be too old to do it without facing legal repercussions that Purdy some unnamed individual just isn’t worth.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
Good game last night. :)
A few issues on defense and the bottom lines not as visible. Good game by Nabby.
GO SHARKS! =D
Go Sharks!
Couple points.
1. Marleau being held out wasn’t a coaching tactic. He was sick.
2. Nabokov isn’t counted on to start the rush. He’s there to stop pucks. He’s actually one of the better puck handlers (for goalies, that is) in the league.
3. I watch Halak alot, so don’t even try it.
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