Both Joes Lead the Sharks to Fifth Straight Playoffs Victory and 2-0 Series Lead Over the Red Wings
by Ivano M on May 2, 2010 10:31 PM PDT
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PrintGoing into Game 2 of the series between San Jose Sharks and Detroit Red Wings, the questions about how will the Red Wings adjust their game following the loss in Game 1 were still remaining. One would think that the extended two days break would work to their advantage.
But when the puck was dropped at the HP Pavilion, the way both teams came out of the gate was not that different from Game 1. In the first 10 minutes of the game, the Sharks were outshooting the Red Wings 11-2, and the attacks on Howard kept coming in waves one after another. The only difference tonight was that it was Detroit who defied the logic, and scored first. Pavel Datsyuk picked up the speed in the neutral zone, and as he crossed the blue line, he had two Sharks defenseman in front of him. Instead of raising his head to see who else may be nearby to help, Datsyuk fired a bullet of a wrist shot that surprised everybody, including Nabokov, and Detroit took the lead in the game.
This kind of turn of events did not discourage the Sharks and they did not change anything . Shortly after they went on a power play, and at this point in the playoffs, no one was shocked it was Joe Pavelski who tied the game with a big shot from the blue line that went past Howard.
But Pavelski's line wasn't done just yet. 90 seconds later Pavelski skated into the offensive zone, turned around to keep the puck, and a moment later sent it towards the net where Ryane Clowe was waiting for a pass. We saw him score beautiful goals in the past, although his specialty is ugly goals. But none of them was as pretty as was this one. With his back facing Detroit's goal, Clowe shot the puck between the legs to open the Sharks first lead in the game.
With the fans at HP Pavilion still loud after the Sharks' second goal, Detroit found a way to respond rather quickly. As Heatley went into the box on a penalty, Thomas Holmstrom did what he does best. As Franzen shot the puck from the blue line, the big Swedish butt was planted in front of Nabokov, untouched by fellow Swede Douglas Murray and the puck went into the net off Holmstrom's body.
As the game progressed, Detroit started to take over the puck possession.They took the lead on another similar goal when Holmstrom was battled for space in front of Nabokov with Rob Blake, and Nicklas Lidstrom scored his 50th playoffs career goal. The relentless cycle in San Jose's zone by the players wearing white returned, and for a moment there, it seemed that nothing was going to stop Detroit from capitalizing on that and increasing their lead. With Douglas Murray sitting in the box early in the 3rd period, Pavel Datsyuk had a chance to make the game 4-2, as he shot the puck from the faceoff circle area inside the Sharks zone. But his fellow Russian Evgeni Nabokov made yet another huge save for the Sharks in this offseason.
This turned out to be the key turning point in the game. Detroit went on to take two penalties within 40 seconds of each other to give the Sharks an extended 5-on-3 power play. No surprise once again - it was Joe Pavelski who tied the game at 3-3, but any of the four Sharks surrounding Howard could have scored that goal. What's more important is that Pavelski won both of the faceoffs in Detroit's zone on that 5-on-3 power play to give the Sharks a chance to storm Howard's goal. In fact, besides scoring two more goals for the Sharks and an assist, Pavelski was 11-3 on faceoffs, and led the team in shots, with 11 on goal and an additional 9 (!) missed shots on goal.
Another important move made by Todd McLellan in this game came in the 3rd period, as he reunited Patrick Marleau with Joe Thornton and Dany Heatley on the HTML line. The reunion of the line paid off. It was time for the other Joe to shine. With seven minutes remaining in the game, Dany Heatley picked up the puck in the neutral zone and took off, as all the Big Three charged towards Howard on a 3-on-1 breakaway. In the regular season, we would expect Heatley to share the puck with one of his linemates, and he could have, since Thornton was in front of the open net on the far side of the goal. But this is playoffs time, and Heatley fired the puck towards the net. Howard made the block, but the rebound fell right in front of Thornton, who wasted no time to sneak it past Howard, and score what turned out to be the game winning goal.
Up to this point, I did not touch on the subject that is going to dominate the game recaps outside of San Jose tonight and tomorrow - the subject of officiating. The scoreboard shows that Detroit took 10 penalties versus 4 by San Jose, something they have not done for over three years in playoffs. Two of those penalties resulted in goals by the Sharks. While most writers would take an easy route, and simply say that the officiating was slanted in the Sharks favor, there is no way I can deny that the mistakes went both ways. Somehow the officials saw a boarding penalty in a play by Patrick Marleau after 2nd period ended, when the replay showed that Marleau probably didn't even touch the Red Wings player. The same could be said about Heatley's penalty, as Stewart pushed him into Howard from behind, but it was Heatley who was shown the way to the penalty box.
Do I agree with all the penalties called on Detroit today? Probably not. Can I ignore the fact that the Red Wings penalty kill allowed two goals yet again in this playoffs? Or the fact that the game winning goal by Joe Thornton was scored on an even strength? I can't.
Either way, the Sharks are in a comfortable position headed to Detroit. It's the first time since the Oilers series in 2006 they won two in a row to open the series, and it's the first time the Red Wings lost the first two games in playoffs since they were swept by the Ducks in the first round of 2003 Stanley Cup playoffs. The Sharks have now won five games in a row. On top of that, with 9 goals Joe Pavelski tied a previous record held by Patrick Marleau for the most goals in a single post season, and he's in a prime position to break that record as the series continues on Tuesday.
Speaking to TSN in a post game interview, Patrick Marleau acknowledged that despite a two-game lead in the series, the Sharks still have a long battle ahead, and this much is true. We'll likely see a very different kind of execution from Detroit as they play in front of their fans.
But it'll sure be nice to wake up tomorrow, and start a new week knowing the Sharks are leading the series over Detroit two-to-nothing.
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My memories of 2007 are so fresh right now....
It’s hard to believe the Sharks finally have a chance to make that right. I can’t bring myself to be happy until they get that 4th win.
But, it would be so sweet to win in 4 or five games. I’ll take a series win in any form though!!!
by skilletboy on May 2, 2010 10:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Totaly Agree
I went to bed last night thinking about the 2-1 Series lead and Marleau and Guerrin trying to seal the deal, they miss, Draper scores, series over.
Draper never scored in that series
Schneider scored that OT goal in Game 4 to change the series around
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 3, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe Pavelski
2 goals, 1 assist, 20 total attempted shots, and 78% on faceoffs.
Effing incredible.
by In Bust we Trust on May 2, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions
I haven’t been able to sit still since the end of the game.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I on the other hand will sleep rather well tonight.
And will wake up in the best mood on the world.
On Monday.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Agreed. The horror of having to go into The Joe for a few games is placated by knowing that the Sharks cannot come out of there any worse than tied in the series. I’d be pretty sad if they come out of that 2-2, but being at home in game 5 is a huge plus!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 2, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The Sharks actually had 4 penalties called against them. That Heatley “penalty” was the 4th. The fact that the GWG was scored at even strength, though, really is pretty key.
The Sharks responded in the 3rd period tonight. And that is very encouraging to see. This is a much tougher playoff team than we’ve seen in Teal Teams of playoffs past. And they’ve become a joy to watch.
Here’s to hoping they can keep it up, and steal a game at The Joe!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
You know what would be even cooler? If we can win both upcoming games at the Joe.
by In Bust we Trust on May 2, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t get greedy.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Yes, tempting like the Sirens.
Hold the course dear sir, hold the course!
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Well, technically, the Shark’s course would be to keep winning.
by In Bust we Trust on May 2, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but getting off track by looking ahead to a completed series is a dangerous game to play. All this sweep talk makes me nervous, especially against Detroit.
If there was a Sharks team that could storm into The Joe during the playoffs, this is likely it. But how quickly we forget the tragedies of postseasons past.
Oh how quickly we forget.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
No one is forgetting, methinks. We haven’t had a nice series lead to cheer about in a while, though.
But The Joe is terrifying. Just a house of horrors for the Sharks over the years. I"ll be happy if we can scrape one win there.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 2, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
this team this season actually played really well at the Joe this year which is promising. Both games went to a shootout. Only minor gripe you could have been the goal that tied the first game at the joe this season. nabby had the puck sealed for awhile, the ref was in the act of blowing the whistle, but before it got to his mouth, zett speared the pads and the puck popped loose and went in. Wasn’t mad at him cause you play until you hear the whistle. I do remember being furious at the ref though because in that same week the sharks had a goal waved off in a similar circumstance. apparently the rule is that if the ref has decided he is going to blow the whistle on the play, thats all that matters not if he has actually committed the act of the whistle. just the decision to. Like the playoff motto has been though, gotta overcome. Let’s keep overcoming and keep rolling!
by dannyschmanny on May 4, 2010 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions
We may think this way, but I don’t think the Sharks are.
Not sure if you’ve seen Marleau’s interview to TSN after the game, but no smiles, all business. He knows it’s far from being over.
I’m sure the demons of Game 4 three years ago still follow him at night.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I agree— there’s no way the Sharks are thinking like this. They know what stands before them.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Every Shark is saying all the right things. We can get better, everybody has to skate, everybody has to work, enjoy this for a few hours and then start gearing up for the battle a head, there is still a long way to go.
None of them even seem really that excited. I think it’s a good sign, McLellan has them all playing at an even keel and playing hard every single game.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
None of them even seem really that excited. I think it’s a good sign, McLellan has them all playing at an even keel and playing hard every single game.
Not like that giddy bastard Duchene right? Sorry, I’m still bitter about that. Damn teenagers /shakes fist angrily… of course, no offense to any teenagers here.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
I’ve found myself over the last couple days mumbling thus: “fucking Robert Lang…”.
by skilletboy on May 2, 2010 10:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Seeing as I haven’t ever seen a playoff series between these two teams before, it’s easy enough for me to believe.
Yet I can’t help but remain a bit wary.
Watching the Caps fall after a 3-1 lead makes me even more cautious.
Here’s to hoping they pleasantly surprise us.
by AppleSweetRose on May 2, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like a battle cry going into games...
Remember the Caps!
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
(Blake points his stick to the sky and roars a fierce battle cry, camera pans to the clouds, a hazy gigantic image of Ovechkin’s grinning face appears, then dissipates)
"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
I think the most telling scare-all around here
Is the fact your ‘product of the system’ article we’ve discussed is being heavily ignored.
Secondary scoring has been on the shoulders of Pavs, an amazing feat that anyone would relish to wallow in. 3 goals on 8 shots would get anyone else pulled. Period. I guess, when you rhetorically asked if goaltenders are products of their systems, the argument these days would be ’Obviously".
I’ll leave it at that, as I’m about to get yelled at for being a meanie-head poopy-face.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on May 3, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The next step of the course though is game three. One game at a time. But that game is just as winnable as any one game. If…. IF… they win that one, I’ll be fukin praying for sweep.!!!!
by skilletboy on May 2, 2010 11:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Put cotton in your ears!
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Lifetime Contract for Marleau" Club
I’d been down for that, especially since I can’t see Game 5 live anyway due to a wedding I have to go to.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
you too, eh?
Although, since I have tickets and have technically had them since long before we knew there was to be a wedding (they told everyone like 2-3 weeks ago), I am able to go to the game while the husband attends the wedding solo. He’s not super keen on it, but that’s more because he doesn’t want to go alone, which I understand.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
well you could give your tickets to me and go with him … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
It’s a fine offer, but I think I’m ok skipping out on it. Thanks though ;)
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
what is up with people
Giving less than a month advanced notice on a wedding?
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It must be the in thing or something.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
I’ve come to adopt the “less than a month notice=no show” attitude. Most people who give a months notice are the ones who live out of town, so it just becomes a hassle to even attempt to show up. At least you get to go to the game :-)
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s really short notice. I don’t know if they booked a place late or just told everyone late or what.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
Did they do anything like “save the date” cards?
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn, I went to a wedding a month ago and they gave a year’s notice.
by In Bust we Trust on May 3, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
You are right, that would be way cooler! But what I"m asking for seems daunting enough! :-P
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 2, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
While I agree, I’ll be thrilled just for one out of the next two … I’m still sticking to the Sharks in 6 cause I don’t want to get my hopes up for anything else right now … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
For sure...
We Sharks fans have been burned in the past.
I personally said Sharks in 5 before the series began…so I gotta stick with that! Gotta win one at the Joe for that to happen! :)
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 2, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Word, i picked Sharks in 5 as well and i got a good feeling about it. Although i’d be ok with them winning in 4 too.
Haha, yeah, I wouldn’t complain. “DAMMIT, WHY DIDN’T THEY LOSE ONE SO I COULD BE CORRECT!” Yeah, I’d be ok with being wrong in that direction! :-P
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Preemtively groaning/chuckling
at NHL.com’s punny headline, should that happen.
"Nichol is like a big, mean energizer bunny. Well, not big, but he's mean."
Good recap Ivan. The second period Detroit really turned on the muscle, but the Sharks survived. It was a pleasure to see.
Forgot what it feels like for the Sharks to be up 2-0 in a series. Beautiful, really.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I was getting ready for Detroit to score the 4th goal, and they almost did on that mad shot by Datsyuk that Nabby stopped.
The way the defense has been turning it on the 3rd periods is something we haven’t seen even in the regular season.
Also, can you believe it’s been eight games now and we have not had a single reason to say anything bad about Huskins? All of a sudden, DW looks like a genius for signing him.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
He signed him to bring that playoff experience...
Who the fuck knew?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Granted, his time is cut from about 18-20 usual minutes down to 10 minutes a night, but still.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
10 solid respectable minutes.
Actually, tonight that was more of a function of being on the power play for nearly a quarter of the game.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Well, he left the goal mouth...
…which allowed Cleary to score uncontested in game 1. But mistakes happen. He’s been playing really well since mid-year.
Two Joes and One Clowe
All of the boys worked so hard tonight and kept grinding. I’m so happy they didn’t let the first RW goal phase them as in the past that normally did. I’m so proud of the way they played and if they continue down this course I’m sure we’ll be victorious! I could say stuff about the refs but whateves I’m on cloud 9 once again and will sleep so well until Tuesday. Go Sharks keep up the good nomnomnoms on the Wings! :D
Thanks Ivan great wrap up!
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
I’m not making any predictions like this, because I don’t want to jinx the Sharks.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
good to be up; tomorrow is just another day
we need to march right into Detroit and score early and take their crowd out of it. Also hope that keeping Marleau down on the 3rd line (if that’s where Todd keeps him) will inspire him to score and keep Detroit guessing as to which line to cover
Not sure what I love more about this picture...
Joe’s happy celebrations or the crowd of sad Red Wings…
Ah, I’ll take Happy Little Joe, any day. =]
"Nichol is like a big, mean energizer bunny. Well, not big, but he's mean."
I’m a Wings fan and this made me laugh. I guess vulgar sea creatures cross all boundaries of fanhood.
google 'suck my dick i'm a shark'
the real pictures of sharks one is pretty awesome, too.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on May 3, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
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But when the puck was dropped at the HP Pavilion, the way both teams came out of the gate was not that different from Game 1
I totally disagree. Detroit pretty much dominated the first five minutes (or more) of game 1.
I was watching with a Wings fan, so it’s burned into my brain.
I shouldn't have said anything.
And yet the score was 3-0 after the first ten minutes, with Sharks heavily outhitting the Red Wings.
A fluke, you say?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
The power play
was a turning point there. But I agree with perkins, up until that point, we weren’t doing entirely well in game 1. shrug
hahaha no
I’m not saying it was a fluke. I’m just saying that we didn’t start game 1 well. We did start game 2 well.
And typically, the team with significantly more hits over a relatively small period of time – have the hits because they didn’t have the puck.
I shouldn't have said anything.
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"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on May 3, 2010 12:03 AM PDT reply actions
Reunited...
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
*sniffles* Oh Heater! :)
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
thats a frrrreakin shark in the air.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on May 3, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Was at the Game tonight
I was one of the people in Red though. I just wanted to let you guys know that it was an awesome experience. Shark fans I sat near were great and the arena was amazing. No commentary though because I just got in to LA after driving back from San Jose.
UGH
I don’t know why i ever read the comments in the articles on the Puck Daddy blog. They always make me angry, and for some reason I always get some unexpected server error when i try to post a comment of my own so it’s just like, pointless masochism.
Red Wings fans are crying so bad about the penalties. Yeah the penalties were 10 – 4 (not 10-3) but 2 of the Sharks’ 4 penalties were probably the 2 worst calls in the game. The goalie interference called on Heatley (he wasn’t blatantly thrown into howard) and the boarding call on Marleau (he didn’t even touch the guy).
The officiating was terrible; but bad officiating isn’t why the Sharks had so many more powerplays than the Red Wings. Realistically the penalties should’ve been what? 7-2? Most importantly though, as Ivano pointed out, the game winning goal was scored at even strength so enough with the excuses.
Exactly. There were bad calls all around and if you try and arugue the only reason the Sharks tied the game is because of poor officiating gave them a 5 on 3. Well Red Wings took the lead thanks to Marleau’s “boarding penalty”. All in all you cant blame the Refs. Theyre not robots theyre human beings who will make mistakes. The Red Wings had their opportunities to win the game as did the Sharks. The difference is the Sharks took advantage. Okay ive gotta learn to stop checking FTF after staying up half the night writing an essay. It delays my sleep by a precious 5 minutes.
"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10
Dont boo your team!
I didn’t even see that boarding call against Marleau.
Keeping it real. Keeping it fresh. Keeping it real fresh.
He was called for it at the end of the 1st period. Marleau was in the box for the beginning of the 2nd and I was like “wtf did he do?”
Brad Stuart (who drew the call) has really been playing with an edge out there. I’m pretty sure many were calling for his head after he bowled Pavs over and continued to cross-check him on the ice. Definitely not the same player that the Sharks shipped out as 1/3 of the Joe Thornton deal.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Stuart's biggest issue
Has always been positioning…he was supposed to be Dan Boyle except he lack Boyle’s instinct and often jumped up on the play to the detriment of the defense.
Stuart is beginning to look more and more like a thug…I hope I am wrong cuz I liked him when he was a Shark…
He adapted
His skill never materialized, so he’s upped his physical game. And good for him for sticking around, and being an asset to a team that has some outstanding defensemen.
He’s no thug. If Murray had sat on Holmer and punched his head a few times, we’d be proud of him.
He had thug moments last night. Diving over Howard to spear and then cross check Pavelski in the back of the head are not sportsman like plays.
I won’t label him a thug, but that kind of play concerns me.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
there were 2 wings smackin Pavs
any idea who they were for sure?
I need to add them to my “All Perry Team”.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
I'm 99% sure Stuart is the one that crosschecked him in the head
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
i will never understand how some roughing calls are made and others are ignored.
not whining
simply don’t see the difference between two guys whacking Pavs to the ground repeatedly vs couture’s game 1 couple of jabs that was called roughing.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Here we are:
Looks like he got a good MMA knee to the head in there on the way down.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
yeah
There was no reason that knee should have gone up let alone a second time.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
should have continued that GIF
they pounded Pavy’s face into the ice…without the visor Pavy’s nose/face would have been broken. still ticked off about this.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Pavelski needs to keep an eye on the Red Wings. He’s our golden boy right now which means the Red Wings will be out for blood no matter how many penalty minutes it will rack up. Haha maybe we should put Staubitz on to protect him.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
those Swedes...
are freaking enormous…we might need Murray to beat down his own peeps.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't blame him
He adapted. His skill never materialized, so he’s upped his physical game. And good for him for sticking around, and being an asset to a team that has some outstanding defensemen.
He’s no thug. If Murray had sat on Holmer and punched his head a few times, we’d be proud of him.
Yeah, I still remember his first game with the Sharks – I think he scored on his first ever shot (have to double-check that), but never really lived up to his offensive expectations. And I still have a Stuart jersey hanging in my closet.
Aside from the cross-checking of Pavelski, I didn’t think his play was dirty, just strong on the body and defended his teammates. It was really weird to see him and Patty jawing at each other though.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
God
I’m not gonna really disagree with the whole uncoolness of hit Pavs when he’s down, but this sounds exactly what Colorado fans were saying about Blake, lol.
Man I liked so-and-so when he was on our team, but now that he’s on the other team he’s a thug or a goon or is trying to hurt our players.
I may be biased, but I still think Stuarts move on Pavs was by far worse than anything Blake did (concussed Mueller, kneed Duchene, or just laid out Galliardi)
Wouldn't you think...
that with 0:00 left on the clock you can’t get a penalty for boarding?? What a load of crap. Oh wait I’m whining and bitching about the refs and officiating like other fans we know and love…whoops sorry. WE WONNNNNNNN WHOO HOOO!
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s exactly it. I left to meet up with a friend during the intermission and I hear “Patrick Marleau 2 mintues for boarding” and I didn’t even know what the hell happened.
Keeping it real. Keeping it fresh. Keeping it real fresh.
This is apparently boarding:
I’m not even sure he touched him.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
//sigh
boarding at 0:00 = spin around was so pretty it was a penalty
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
i get the same error whenever i try and post.
and yeah, the boarding and interference calls were bullshit and i can think of at least 3 of their penalties that they DEFINITELY deserved: the slash that broke Blake’s stick, the crosscheck to Setoguchi, and the too many men. There were probably more, but I don’t remember them all.
by PNK on May 3, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s how I look at it too – give them the benefit of the doubt, and say that 3 were bad calls. There was at least 1 bad call against the shark (Heatley – unless ‘being a projectile fired at your a goalie’ is now a penalty).
Still leaves them 7-3 on penalties.
That’s what the Sharks are doing to people – playing harder, being faster, being bigger. Teams always respond to that by taking penalties. More so when a man down – thus the 5-3’s.
Whiners.
I rewatched the penalties last night and the only ones that were blatantly bad calls were Marleaus boarding penalty, Heatleys goalie interference, and Todd Bertuzzi’s holding penalty.
Marleau didn’t even come close to boarding, he barely hit the guy and they were both facing the boards parallell to each other.
The goalie interference calls on Abdelkader and Bertuzzi could’ve been let go I guess, but they both did make contact with Nabby. Nabby may have embelished on the call against Abdelkader but Bertuzzi definitely did hit Nabokov; although you can’t tell for sure how badly. It looked like Bertuzzi may have pushed Nabbys face or chest and sent him back into his own net.
I think there was some controversy on Brad Stuarts interference call but i don’t remember that one, and i’m sure i would if it was really bad call.
So realistically the penalties could’ve been 9-2 or 7-2, but either way the Red Wings deserved to be on the penalty kill a lot more than the sharks so there’s no reason to make excuses about the Sharks only winning because of one-sided officiating.
It’s the frustration setting in on the Red Wings. Every team makes a mistake and will take a penalty or, when in a number of situations, draw a penalty. The members of the Red Wings have been playing hard, but they are also becoming more and more careless when it comes to playing clean.
I consider it a good sign seeing the Red Wings thrown into situations where they take penalties. They’re frustrated and panicking even though they say something completely different. Maybe, just maybe, the Red Wings have come to fear the Sharks team, and now feel inferior. Just a thought.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You and everyone else my dear friend
:)
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
That was a Sassy goal by Clowe
The VS announcer last night…“that was a sassy goal!” Really? Sassy? Spectacular, maybe! Stupendous, possibly! Fucking amazing, for sure. Either way you slice it, Sharks are the better team!
Go sharks…Duck Fetroit!
That was right up there with the elephantine save by Nabakov
in the 3rd quarter…it’s like Dennis Miller all over again.
ELEPHANTINE GLOVE SAVE
Dude, I didn’t even know elephants wore gloves.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
They do in Oakland
and they wear white shoes ;)
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on May 3, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Reaugh
Likes to try and show off his vocabulary. 9 time out of 10 he just ends up sounding like an idiot.
We need rest. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.
mayhaps
he’s too pretty to have a fraking awesome goal so he had a sassy one? ;)
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Love Razor.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
L.A.I.D.
he wanted some.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
News alert: Hockey Town to be officially renamed 'whiner town'
Even their media are a bunch of whiners:
I love the part where he says that SJ has been the better team – oh, but it’s the refs at fault for last night. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense…
See:
Quote:
Victim playing by abusers is either:
1) diverting attention away from acts of abuse by claiming that the abuse was justified based on another person’s bad behavior (typically the victim) or
2) soliciting sympathy from others in order to gain their assistance in supporting or enabling the abuse of a victim (known as proxy abuse).
It is common for abusers to engage in victim playing. This serves two purposes:
1) justification to themselves – as a way of dealing with the cognitive dissonance that results from inconsistencies between the way they treat others and what they believe about themselves.
2) justification to others – as a way of escaping harsh judgment or condemnation they may fear from.
Haha.
It’s ballsy as shit to write a piece like that and include your phone number.
Slappin' your troubles away since 2009.
Hehehe
You’re giving me ideas. To be continued.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
"The Sharks need to keep playing well and finish off Detroit. If they don't I guarantee a third straight Pitt-Det finals. WE'RE HOCKEY'S LAST HOPE!!!" - ZeroIndulgence, via text
The hold on Vlasic
yeah that was a bad call by the refs, but Vlasic didn’t dive. He was already going down after losing his balance and a Red Wing happened to be right there with a hand on him. Not a hold, not a trip, not anything illegal, but Vlasic WASN’T DIVING, I remember watching that replay and seeing that he was already going down.
I don’t mind the complaints about the refs (which are certainly justifiable TO AN EXTENT), but I really hate all this “diving” BS. Everytime we get a PP it’s because we “dived.” That’s BS. Sure, there might be times when there’s a little bit of embellishment, but that’s hockey. BOTH TEAMS were doing it last night (Howard embellished a high stick that wasn’t called, but I’m pretty sure it was a Red Wing stick that did it anyway). Some were called, some weren’t called, and some shouldn’t have been called.
In the end though, San Jose was the better team, so stop acting like the refs stole the game away from the Red Wings.
Babcock gave the fanbase an out when he said Seto was embellishing in Game 1. Of course that was going to be the refrain after game 2.
But who gives a shit. Just enjoy their tears, and then get nervous again for game 3. We all know the Sharks deserve to be up 2-0. Who cares what Wings fans think…
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Just enjoy their tears
Alright.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Exactly what I was thinking about!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah.
If you watched 201, you know that Scott Tenerman got the last laugh, man.
Slappin' your troubles away since 2009.
That made me bust up laughing. Such a burn on Cartman.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Just watched it
Cartman’s half Denver Bronco, and that’s pretty kewwwl.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
I care if it affects how the League views us and our players, i don’t want to earn a negative reputation that we don’t deserve. I don’t want refs to start looking for excuses to give us unsportsmanlike conduct penalties b/c the y think the Sharks are dive artists.
by PNK on May 3, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, being as NO ONE outside of the Detroit fanbase thinks we’re diving. And the entire league, having had to play in the Joe at some point or another, thinks its laughable that the refs might have a vendetta against the Wings. I doubt we’ll have to worry about getting a reputation as divers. The Wings’ fanbase’s reputation as huge whining crybabies kinda trumps that claim.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
“Complaining about officiating is usually the coward’s way of rationalizing defeat while side-stepping self-accountability.”
That’s all i’m taking from Drew. He already knows what what he was doing was the “coward’s way out”.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
How about that Marleau guy?
i thought Marleau had a really strong game. He was all over the ice, was part of 3 goals even though he got one assist, and his zetterberg smash got the crowd riled up again and ready to go. Good game by Marleau, hopefully he can keep it up.
Honestly
there were a couple times when it looked to like Marleau wasn’t focused. Maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention, but he seemed to be fighting the puck a lot last night. There definitely times when he looked good, but I think he’s still recovering from the flu.
Don't be distracted!
Pro’s pro Patrick Marleau is showing his value.
All business, nothing personal.
Move over, this Blues fan is on your bandwagon!
Wing nation’s crying never gets old.
It’s fun seeing the Wings have their picnic basket stolen.
Close it out Sharks!
Crying towels at the ready?
This is going to be great!
I’m kinda surprised at all of the Sharks fans complaining about the Red Wings fans complaining.
I understood the annoyance during the Avs series, but against the Red Wings it’s just music to my ears.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I don't mind the complaints about the refs so much
as I do all the accusations that we’re “diving” every time we get a PP
Question: Who laid that massive hip check on the boards towards the end of the 3rd?
Couldn’t really see the numbers really well, was that Vlasic or Kyle McLaren?
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
that was Vlasic
surprised me too.
oh and McLaren doesn’t play for us anymore!!! :P
by JenLovesHockey on May 3, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
i think he was being sarcastic! ;)
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on May 3, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Aaah, yes, the sarcasm went undetected without the use of emoticons and appropriate punctuation.
:)
by JenLovesHockey on May 3, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
ah yes, the universal language: emoticons!
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on May 3, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Penalty calls
I have seen a number of the calls made against the Octopi and I just don’t see the outcry.
Video:
TSN: http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip296902#clip296902
0:25: Abdelkader’’s interference call in the 1st period: Clearly interference-crosses the crease and knocks Nabby over (even the commenter agrees)
1:25: Bertuzzi interference…clearly extends his arm and pushes Nabby causing Nabby to fall over…a little of a sell job by Nabby maybe but not that much of one.
1:50: Bertuzzi holding in the 3rd…Some embellishment by the Sharks player but Bertuzzi got his stick in between the Sharks’ player’s legs…easy call
1:55: Kronwell clearly puts his stick between Joe Pav’s legs and hooks…another easy call.
NHL highlights: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20092010,3,232&navid=sb:highlights
6:49: Flippula’s trip in the 3rd: Also an easy call…shove stick into legs/skates.
Legit calls not on video:
Cleary’s slash in the 3rd: Easy call-Blake’s stick shattered
Too Many Men: Easy Call
Non-calls on the video
TSN Video:
0:59: Cross-checking on Ericsson not called
1:06: Holstrom’s screen of Nabby is borderline interference but no call → Octopi goal
NHL Highlight:
6:19/6:33/6:43: Holstrom hooking of Clowe
Non-calls not on video:
Stuart’s mugging of Pav after the Sharks’ third goal
Bad calls against Sharks:
Marleau’s “boarding” call in the 2nd (goal by Octopi)
Heatley’s “interference” in the third
Conclusions:
5 of the 10 Octopi penalties were obvious and clear calls
2 of the 10 had some Sharks embellishment but 1) don’t put your stick between people legs (like extending your arms for an NFL OL), 2) don’t stick out to shove people, and 3) do not do 1 or 2 if you are Todd Bertuzzi.
(don’t know about the remaining three calls…no video and did not see)
At 4 non-calls that could have gone against the Octopi (3 were blatant)
At least 2 call against the Sharks that were not good (esp. the Heatley call)
Do I think the refs are great? No but they are not horrible either. The Octopi are clearly a step behind the Sharks at time and using their sticks to slow down Shark player (i.e. sticks between the legs).
yeah Wings fans were pissed at the tank every time one of their guys got in the box, but a hook is a hook, a slash is a slash – the calls were generally fair and they need to get over it.
by JenLovesHockey on May 3, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Their Captain admitted it
“We put ourselves in penalty problems again and they got the tying goal on a five-on-three, so we have to do a better job of not being in the box. We have to keep our sticks down and keep moving our feet,” said Lidstrom.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
gotta respect lidstrom.
I do think that in general calls went against Detroit. Not anywhere near a conspiracy theory like some wings fans are suggesting, but we did get a majority of the close calls.
I do agree with you calbearjd, most were justified calls. And the goalie interference call against Heatley was just terrible.
The Wings know this better than most teams: the team that controls play gets the calls. Simple as that.
strong point
the wings are simply not used to being the ones chasing
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
he wouldn’t complain about the officiating even if he thought it was biased and unbalanced. It wouldn’t accomplish anything, except maybe piss off the refs.
i’m beginning to wonder if all of babcock’s complaining about the officiating in the 1st game backfired. i know it wasn’t the same refs, but when you badmouth the officials it makes them look bad so sometimes they’ll make you pay.
that is possible but anyone want to lay bets that it goes 8 – 5 for detroit in their own arena?
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
yeah
I bet the get the advantage in PP next game, probably closer to even the game after that (although that might depend upon who wins).
that worries me b/c their PP looked A LOT better last night than game 1.
i don’t know what the answer to Holstrom is, fight him you get the double screen, but leave him alone and he’s dangerous, even if it’s just picking up rebounds.
I think you have it right. Particularly when you look at 2 of the 4 Sharks penalties being at least as bad (the Heatley call, and the bizarre Marleau boarding call).
The Sharks were simply out skating and out working the wings on the boards. Teams take penalties under those circumstances. Happens all the time.
They are a bunch of whiners.
Hell, we should all go to game 4. We could even buy a house there for like $1000 to spend the night, LOL!
by JenLovesHockey on May 3, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Hoping for a split on the road.
So we can win it on home ice. But who cares, wins are wins. Before we were worried about how they will do and if they can hold their powerplay in check, now its when we will win the series. My how things have changed in a matter of 2 games. Absolutely love it….go sharks!!!!
they’re gonna be ready to wail on our asses in game 3, and we’d better stay out of the box, because yes, they do have a killer PP
by JenLovesHockey on May 3, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea I said that last night to my buds
game 3 is going to be massive…we’re going to get our asses beat and thrashed around like none other…if we survive it…we’ll be fine…but I’m so scared for our boys. The Wings really have very little to lose at this point they’re already down 2. They’re going to murder us but hopefully they’ll have a sin bin parade like this last game…me hopes? Unless again…officiating in Detroit sucks…you know ‘cause we’ve never seen that before.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget
The calls will probably got against the Sharks because 1) they are on the road, 2) the Octopi players, coaches, and fans have been complaining nonstop, and 3) Leagues love long series…
yes exactly!
Because complaining about the refs, as I’ve done in the past I admit, makes me feel uber important after losing….:P…it won’t go our way there we all know and realize that but the boys have to fight and rise above it…but truly after watching Pav’s precious little dome get smashed into the ice by a RW last night….I’m scared for them. I hope they’re up for it physically.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
never hope for a loss (even if it means you might get to see a win in person).
that’s my motto at least.
I agree with you. I would love to not have to go to the game on Saturday if they can avoid it.
by Gotthelife4u on May 3, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
:D
if I die…I will die proudly with my FTF buddys in Detroit.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
love it. you're awesome. go sharks!
game 3 WILL BE MASSIVE, like you said.
by JenLovesHockey on May 3, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Conspiracy talk makes me laugh. oh the nhl wants a hot sunny west coast team. Wouldn’t pheonix fit better and be more of a feel good story beating the mighty red wings after what happened to them heh if the nhl wanted the wings out they would have been gone in the first round. People on the wings blog say there not watching the rest of the playoffs ha
by sPaNiArD440 on May 3, 2010 8:52 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
If they could also not post on blogs, or talk about hockey in any way, I’d be ok with that!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Little Joe "History Will Be Made" commercial
Just aired on NHL Network. Totally took me off guard and left me laughing giddily. Some might say “Like a schoolgirl.”
Lidstrom with his 50th career playoff goal
How long until Pavs gets 50?
Im think game 4 of the western conference finals
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on May 3, 2010 9:46 AM PDT reply actions
Staying focused
I read the Puck Daddy article, and felt like I had to post over there. It was just so frustrating to read the comments. So I posted.
But you know what, we have to let it go. Their bloggers and fans are trying to bait us into this game of whining and complaining with them- it’s what they want. It gives them validity to argue. How dumb would that Puck Daddy article look if the only comments were Red Wings fans complaining amongst themselves? So, I say we don’t play their game as fans and bloggers. Let them complain amongst themselves. If we don’t respond, they have no one to argue with.
Our war of words on the blogosphere has a parallel to what the Sharks will have to do on Tuesday. The Wings are going to get nasty, and try to get us off our game by making it dirty. The Sharks needs to stay focused, and composed through it all. It won’t be easy to do so, just as its not easy for us to sit back and not respond when we feel like we are being attacked- but it’s what we and the Sharks need to do. Let them complain amongst themselves, while we stay focused on the task at hand. Don’t take the bait, but keep shooting the puck and playing hard. Stay focused as a team and as a community, that’s all that matters. Because in the Playoffs, the only people you can rely on is your own teammates.
Go Sharks.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT THE REFS?
I know Detroit fans whine. You know what. EVERY FAN WHINES IN THE PLAYOFFS ABOUT THE OFFICIATING! This is not limited to hockey.
We know that Detroit has gotten calls in the past. We know they are going to get calls at Joe Louis. We also know we’ve managed to sell a few. And for heavens sake, this blog also knows Mike Cvik has a personal vendetta against Joe Pavelski, so why the hell are we complaining about another fanbase criticizing the officiating?
I challenge anyone who posts regularly to gameday threads to check their comment history and see if there hasn’t been a time when they have been less than 100% sold on a call made on the ice.
This is going to be a hard series, and there are far more interesting things to talk about than people not on the ice complaining about people on the ice who aren’t playing in the game and just calling it.
First stones and all that jazz.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
by ElvisVF101 on May 3, 2010 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Had some fun over at the Octopi blog
Good people I have to say…whine a little too much but good fans.
It’s not their fault that their team has to go up against HTML and Captain America.
GO SHARKS…
I challenge anyone who posts regularly to gameday threads to check their comment history and see if there hasn’t been a time when they have been less than 100% sold on a call made on the ice
I think there’s a difference between complaining about a bad call when it happens…and crying that the only reason your team has lost was because of the refs and some vendetta against you. It bears mentioning, especially since things like this tend to turn the tide in a series as far as officiating goes. I guarantee you we will see the box far more than the Wings do next game…and it won’t all be because we’re in The Joe. But it also won’t be the reason we win or lose. The Sharks will need to keep being the faster, bigger team.
It really shouldn’t be all we’re talking about. But how many ways can we talk about how amazing Joe Pavelski is, how sick the Clowe goal was, or how nice it was that Thornton had the GWG and maybe now people will leave him alone for a few days.
Our PK needs some work, though. Game 1 it was awesome, Game 2 the WIngs adjusted and looked really scary. Sharks will need to make some PK adjustments so they can kill off the penalties called on them next game. I have a feeling a solid PK will be the main decider of whether this goes 3-0 or 2-1.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
The Octopi's (esp. Holstrom) ability to stand 2 inches in front of Nabby
is a really concern…I know he’s a monster but you can’t let him do that all series.
But according to the Sharks, that’s their strategy. If you get someone in there trying to push him away from the front of the net, now you have two people screening Nabby. The Sharks, instead, have decided to focus on blocking shots, and to focus on hitting Holmstrom on the way to the front of the net. Just don’t let him get there.
It worked pretty well in game 1, not as much in game 2. They’ll have to adjust.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I heard that after game one as well
But I would think that Nabby would much rather deal with more shots than shots he can’t see…maybe I’s wrong.
BTW: No one is talking about how average Howard has been in this series. Some big saves but a lot (I mean a lot) of rebounds to the front of the net…
The problem is that Holmstrom doesn’t move when you try to move him. He’s a fat lard that doesn’t go anywhere. So someone trying to move him will just provide a double screen. Which is what he wants! Nabby can see around one person a lot easier than he can see around 2.
Also, Howard was average in game 1. He was pretty awesome in game 2. Some of those stops he made in the first and again in the third were just unreal. That game could have easily been a Sharks blowout.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Holmstrom listed at
6 ft 203 lbs and 37 years old…I know nothing about hockey leverage/strength but that doesn’t seem that impressive to me.
Granted he is very good at doing what he does so maybe the strategy is a good one.
Holmstrom may not be Douglas Murray big
But he is strong on his skates.
Witness Dan Boyle trying to move him last night during the third.
Holmstrom gets a wide stance, stays in a squat, and keeps a low center of gravity. That makes him very hard to move. Plus, he knows where the crease is and stays just outside of it.
His bread and butter for YEARS has been this strategy, and no one yet has been strong enough to clear him out.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Those are his stats
But the way he stands he might as well weigh 350 pounds. You’d need a running start to get his ass out of there and at that point it’s charging.
Boyle tried extremely hard to move that fat ass out of the crease and all he did was double screen Nabby. I love the effort and was actually laughing at the screen watching it, but it didn’t do anything but create more traffic in front.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I swear
Holmstrom’s ass has a tractor-beam towards the net.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
yes!
I was telling my friend that the other day. I said " I swear Holmstrom has a magnet in his ass that moves him automatically to the front of re net." I also mentioned Datsyuk implanted it himself with his alien probe…. ;)
"I'm gonna tell you something you might not know about me Joe Rogan, I smoke rocks." - Tyrone Biggums
by c.perez on May 3, 2010 1:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't stop talking about Joe Pavelski!
But in seriousness, we’ve had two very close wins. And for many reasons, we know we’re going to be on the PK more in the two games at Detroit.
First off, there’s the Joe Louis factor. Second, I look for Detroit to even things up in the faceoff circle, leading to more puck possession, forcing us to chase them a bit. Third, they have last change. Guaranteed they’re going to try and get good matchups against Huskins and Demers. Those two have been servicable, but if they get caught on an icing and Babcock sends Holmstrom and Zetterberg over the boards, well, yeah.
You never want to give Holmstrom fewer people to have to go through to get to Nabokov.
Plus, the flow of the game has been back and forth. Detroit dominates just as many stretches of play as we have. Will home ice be enough to swing the wins towards them? Who knows.
It’s why I’m glad the team is not nearly as cocky as we fans have been at times. They KNOW they are in for a dogfight in Detroit. That’s why I’m not as worried about the swing in penalties called. But I am worried because nothing in this series is for certain until we win at least one game on the road.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
I have a bad feeling about Game 3. I just have this voice in the back of my head telling me Detroit is going to come out and just maul us at home. But, also, if the Sharks can withstand the first 10 minutes of that game, things will get into a flow, and the Sharks will have a chance.
But yeah, the Sharks can win one at the Joe. In the regular season, they played Detroit much tougher at the Joe than they did at HP. And while the Sharks are playing much better these days, and this is the playoffs, at least we can go into this knowing that not all hope is lost.
I’d be ecstatic with a split.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a given for me
that Game 3 will go to the Octopi…I think game 4 is the really big game…if the Octopi ties it…pressure goes back on the Sharks…
Eh, nothing is a given, but I can still be neurotic about it!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
But it also won’t be the reason we win or lose. The Sharks will need to keep being the faster, bigger team.
How about we take a page from the Cup-winning Ducks vs. the Wings:
Make the penalties meaningless.
Beat them 5-5, and limit your PK goals. Physically wear down the Wings, and you’ll beat them.
We're definitely trying
I think all of the hitting is frustrating the Wings and thus the bad penalties they keep taking.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I feel we should just enjoy it. It means we’re winning.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I love crying Red Wings fans
I just love winning even more.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Both at the same time is almost like Nirvana.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I’d love to see two more games of that this series!
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't....
it’s the inner Shark fan in me…
50 percent of me remembers 2007 and how we will lose 4 in a roll
50 percent of me thinks that we might actually win but in a game 7.
Of course, losing and low expectations are normal for me considering I am also a Warriors, Giants, and 49ers fan.
The 49er fan in you got to enjoy 5 superbowl wins.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
That was like 20 years ago!
I only got to enjoy 3 of them :)
Those super bowls = one Giants’ collapse in the WS
Oh, that Giants world series collapse was really funny! Of course, since it was to the Angels, it lost much of its luster. Those are probably my two biggest rivals in baseball…I really didn’t want either team to win.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
not funny...
Dusty Baker still haunt my dreams…
1) Taking Ortiz out early even though he was rolling
2) Trying to use a power pitcher like Nen for three straight days; and
3) Starting Livan in game 7.
Ahhhhhhh, the things I get to hold over my Giants-fan friends’ heads.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh I forgot
Dusty Baker:
1) Starting Solomon Torres in the last game in 1993
2) Destroying every bullpen he had by mid-season.
Joe Pavelski, 'you're my hero'
Go Sharks…woohoo!
"We have to win eight. I'll be crushed if we don't win eight." CRN...Eat it BN, lol
Haven't had a chance to read the columnists regarding the Sharks win
Ratto: Sharks go up two nothing…he writes:
“On the other hand, the Sharks are now the 56th team in the last 10 years to win their first two games of a series at home, and only five of those have failed to finish the job. Of course, one of those five is San Jose (’06, Edmonton, remember?), but this team is different and blah, blah, blah.”
Purdy: A little more optimistic but
“This series isn’t close to being over as it heads to Detroit. Our beloved Los Tiburones have wasted two-games-to-none leads in previous playoff years and gone on to lose — most recently against Edmonton in 2006. The Red Wings have rallied from two-games-to-none deficits numerous times to win series.
Yet you did get the feeling Sunday night that a hurdle may have been crossed. It’s not often that the Red Wings blow leads twice in the same game…"
Ray Ratto is a big schwantz.
Seriously, this guy is picking the Red Wings to win in 7. He dumps on the Sharks all the time. I can’t believe is a writer for a Bay Area paper. With all the layoffs at the Chron, how did he keep his job?
I do believe the real test is how the Sharks fare in the Joe. They have a block there and if they can overcome the block and win one at the Joe, then people, there’s a pretty damn good chance the Sharks will make it to the Finals. They will have faced their fears head on and OVERCOME them.
Reading the Puck Daddy 3 stars post now...
…and here’s the ultimate reason why power-play disparity talk is just noise:
“Evgeni Nabokov (28 saves) was solid, but Jimmy Howard (41 saves) kept the Wings in the game during a third period in which San Jose held an 18-11 shot advantage. … San Jose dominated the faceoff circle, 43-26.”
41 shots. 18 in the 3rd. Won 62% of their draws. Given the shot differential, and the faceoffs, you’d expect a penalty disparity.
45 shots overall in the game. 43 faceoff wins.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Ahem
Let me try this again.
When you’re badly outshot, out-chanced, outhit, and losing 62% of all the draws, you’re also going to have fewer power-plays.
San Jose Theorem
41 shots. 18 in the 3rd. Won 62% of their draws. Given the shot differential, and the faceoffs, you’d expect a penalty disparity.
Detroit Corollary
When you’re badly outshot, out-chanced, outhit, and losing 62% of all the draws, you’re also going to have fewer power-plays.Apparently, math isn’t that hard for you <=J
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
I think there argument is
the disparity in shots and chances is a direct result from the disparity of PPs.
they’re arguing that there was a disparity in PPs so they were constantly on the PK which of course means you’re giving up more shots and chances.
can’t really argue the FO% much, although if you’re short a man and you win the FO to an area where that man is absent it could allow the other team to win the possession even though the center won the FO.
not saying i necessarily agree with this viewpoint, just trying to put it in perspective.
by PNK on May 3, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand their point
But my view is that the only that can be said is that the referring is bad on both sides…Referees are not biased (unless you are from the NBA)…they have no reason to be on one team’s side or another…they do the best they can when they can.
I did not think it was a surprise that the Sharks dominated the 3rd period…Sharks are well rested while the Octopi’s longest break has been three days (Thursday → Sunday)…They tried to overpower the Sharks in the second but only came away with an one-goal lead. The Sharks moved much faster and resulted in the the penalties by the Octopi. As stated in my earlier post, most of the Octopi penalties are stick in the leg area…these occur because they are trying to slow the Sharks down (as opposed to elbowing, charging, or roughing penalties).
Obviously false
The game started with San Jose peppering Howard with shots, winning face-offs, and geting scoring chances between the hash marks. That typically either results in goals or penalties.
An original 6 fanbase should know better….
An excerpt from a comment
Regarding Detroit fans =
Get over yourself. You might think there’s a conspiracy against you, but let’s face facts: you’re not important enough to be conspired against.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
"The Sharks need to keep playing well and finish off Detroit. If they don't I guarantee a third straight Pitt-Det finals. WE'RE HOCKEY'S LAST HOPE!!!" - ZeroIndulgence, via text
by Mr. K. on May 3, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Home ice matchups
Lots of comments about Joe Louis. I’m thinking that the jinx of that building is pretty played out, but I definitely fear the impact of Babcock getting the last change. There is a serious chess game going on with the lines. I lost track of how many times TM sent out 6 defensemen before a faceoff just to mess with Babcock and wait for his move. If this series ends well, I hope to see some McLellan montages based on “Now the student has become the master.”
by calixtus on May 3, 2010 11:56 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Also...the visiting team has to put their sticks down first for faceoffs
Is this an advantage or disadvantage?
Gives more options to the home centerman
easier to move or push at the other center’s stick from above than the bottom in most cases.
"Who were you rooting for in the Olympics?" - Drew Remenda
"I wanted Team India to go all the way." - Manny Malhotra
Also
The home centerman can use some motion coming up to the dot to cheat his position a little, and turn his body to get a better angle on the puck. Watch Joe when he’s at home. He skates up, and as he’s lowering his stick, he moves his skates to open up his body and not be parallel to the other centerman. This is usually the reason he gets tossed.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
now that is a post I would like to see … faceoffs and all the ways to cheat and stuff … I never notice those little things and always wondered what he’s doing to get tossed
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
someone asked on Ask the Crew once
but Randy and Drew didn’t really give a good answer other than that it’s b/c the center is “cheating”
by PNK on May 3, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, the home team most definitely benefits from that rule. Has anyone else noticed how much more often they’re tossing guys out of the faceoff in the playoffs? Just watch in game 3.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on May 3, 2010 1:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
roughing and faceoffs
is there any definition on those two?
Jumbo must hate winning em because he gets tossed all the time.
Roughing is a mind boggling call/non call.
I have been a hockey fan for 20 years and still never seem to get it.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Jumbo gets tossed
Because he cheats more than average. I think he had said as much. And since he almost always paired with a linemate who has a better percentage than he does, why not take a chance on playing the opponent or his stick instead of the puck?
by calixtus on May 3, 2010 12:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah
I’ve read interviews where Thornton flat out said he cheats at faceoffs because he’s usually paired with Patty, who is also a center, so if he gets tossed, no biggie, Patty takes it, but if he doesn’t he gets an advantage.
that’s the great thing about have like 50% of your forwards being centers: Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Malholtra, Nichol, Mitchell, Couture
If Phoenix can win 2 games in Detroit
Then I’m pretty sure the Sharks will be able to steal at least 1 game on the road.
ILL BE HAPPY WITH HALF
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on May 3, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
Puck Daddy fanning the flames with a new blog about the penalty issue specifically. As usual, he only quotes Detroit media, as then it allows him to be as one-sided as possible. He’s such a joke, though if his sole objective with that blog is to get people rattled and stir u up controversy, then he’s batting .1000.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on May 3, 2010 1:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
After watching Phoenix in round 1
Sharks fans should be mortified about how lopsided Joe Louis games can be. Wings fans, as historically awesome as Detroit seems on paper, seem to collectively boo whenever one of their star players so much as gets bumped. They want penalties, blood, and any favor the refs will give them. Hell, I hate to say it, but that’s probably why they got Todd Bertruzzi in the first place. Granted, Bertruzzi’s a solid hockey player. But being the last team to pick up a guy who is obviously a shithead, while the rest of your team being notorious finnesse players ? Detroit is full of skill, and little ( but some) toughness. Adding Bertruzzi only made it easier for the rest of the team to get away wioth murder, as the refs “will surely keep an eye on Bertruzzi”.
Thing is, once the refs watch the whole team, Bertruzzi gets called, and all the nasty ticky-tacks get called as well. I hate to sound like a San Jose homer, which I am, but I’ve played hockey for the last 20+ years of my life. It’s not like this situation hasn’t happened before, with other teams. But when you get this far into the postseason, details get scrutinized. Detroit, when they had Scotty Bowman behind the bench, dealt with what San Jose is going through now. Detroit fans are quick to dismiss the fact that during the mid-90’s, they went through the same questions of flopping that San Jose has in recent years.
How quick it is, to dismiss yesteryear’s mistakes with a Stanley Cup win. Get two, it’s like it never happened. 3? You’re a bad hockey fan for doubting Detroit.
The reffing is a wild card. San Jose fans should really brace themselves, because once the Sharks step into Joe Louis, the reffing will be terribly unbalanced against our team. Unless San Jose puts 2 or 3 on the board early, you’ll be scratching your head the whole game at the conisstency of the calls. Their fans will boo retarded calls. Remember though, they ARE fans, just like us. Being ‘knowledgeable’ was thrown out the window, the second we found out these teams were facing each other in round 2. If it helps their team to boo bullshit, they’ll boo. Understandable.
If we want to win The Cup, then we have to pretend to be as idiotic as them. I respect Detroit,solely due to the franchise’s history. But their fans, as allegedly passioante as they are, seem to come across as hockey-illiterate at times. Truth is, they know theit stuff. They’re just willing to do whatever it takes, even if it seems underhanded, to help their team win.
Food for thought, for San Jose fans. It’s actually a change of pace, because San Jose fans have been lambasted for years for ’not knowing anything about hockey". San Jose, from Day One at The Cow Palace, has proven they are one of the top 5 fanbases in the league, with knowledge of every little detail of the game.
Maybe, just maybe… That was said so we wouldn’t catch on to the tricks. Maybe we don’t have anything to learn anymore, and have all the tools to hop in the driver’s seat and bury this sonnuvabitch, Thelma and Louise style.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on May 3, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
normally skim long posts
but that was an interesting and bold take on things.
'It's amazing the clarity that comes with psychotic jealousy.'
Interesting and welcome take on things. I agree with much of what you said. I think the bottom line is that games 1 and 2 are done and in the books and all we as fans can do
is concentrate on the impending game 3 in what’s sure to be particularly hostile territory.
GO SHARKS!
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on May 3, 2010 1:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
I agree with this post
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
The reffing is a wild card. San Jose fans should really brace themselves, because once the Sharks step into Joe Louis, the reffing will be terribly unbalanced against our team.
I fully expect the Sharks to be on the PK more than the PP in the Joe. That’s why last night’s PK attempts actually kinda rattled me. The Wings looked scary good on their pp last night. The Sharks will need to tighten up their PK (like they did in game 1) if they want to steal a game in the Joe.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Good post.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Forgive the typos.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on May 3, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
Random Question
Why was there no mention at all of a freakin’ SHARK apparently thrown onto the ice after Monsignor Pavelski’s first goal? I mean, really. I’ve seen a few reports (Puck Daddy and others) about this but there was not even an off-color remark about “classless” San Jose fans and their “dubious” actions, or the potential penalty in response to this?
I’m confused especially by the fact that Puck Daddy links to the article about the time this happened before … any insights from those who were there?
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
I’ve seen it in this blog and on major sites like puck daddy. I’m not sure you would call that no mention…
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I mean
during the game, by the announcers.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
Ahh
I think they don’t bring it up so that it doesn’t encourage more people to do it. Same reason they don’t televise streakers at football games anymore.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Hm
I’d considered that, but it just seems so strange to not even take the chance to dig on the SJ fanbase, haha.
Ah well. It is what it is.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
The announcers for Versus are terrbile
Is one excuse.
Did anyone notice at the game Pavel Datsyuk went for a hit on Vlassic, missed, and lay crumpled on the ice. He got himself to the bench, albeit gingerly, but nary a mention from the buffoons at Versus.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
i thought i saw someone go down in the corner of the screen
but they didn’t even mention it so i thought i must have hallucinated it.. or someone fell down and was ok..
Wysh and Mirtle jumped the gun on that article and didn’t realize it was dated 2007. They said stuff to that effect on twitter. I’ve been trying to find the rumored TSN vid with the shark in it but no luck as of yet.
It was not mentioned at the game, either. It was quickly and quietly removed.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
No Respect, Absolute Hatred Toward Us
The incredible nationwide outcry against the officials in game two has taken away from the Sharks being up 2-0. The press is acting like the Sharks did nothing to win the game. We get zero respect in the press and from hockey fans.
We are the west coast fruitcakes, we know nothing about hockey and its pathetic that our choking team is actually ahead 2-0 to the SAINTED DETROIT HOCKEYTOWN REDWINGS. How dare we beat them.
The best is the theories about the league having a vendetta against the Wings, so they are fixing the games for the Sharks to advance. Unbelievable classless stuff coming from the press all over the country.
I never knew there was so much underlying hatred toward the bay area. I am flabbergasted at the incredible negative press toward this series and the Sharks.
Welcome to hockey fandom in San Jose. May we offer you a tasty teal beverage?
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
exactly...
I don’t know why its a sudden surprise now…we’ve all learned to deal with it. //clink cheers good lady for the yummy teal bev
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Non-traditional markets have no heart! No grit! RELOCATE THE CALIFORNIA TEAMS TO CANADA AND/OR GREENLAND, WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THEIR HOCKEY!
Also, fuck’em. They can say whatever they want, but the refs didn’t pot those goals — the guys in teal did.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
DIVE DIVE DIVE
because we’re not from Canada
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
We're no where from Canada
we’re in CALIFORNIA…you know OVERRRR THERRRREEEE
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s to be expected. The only thing that will silence the haters is a Cup. The Sharks will have to prove they can win it all before haters stop hating.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahahahaha
That’s a good one. As if the Sharks winning it all would silence the haters.
I can already hear the cries about how our Cup win is “tainted” by bad officiating, or how we “cheated” to get there, refs pushing us from one round to the next, players engaging in shady off-ice deals, conspiracies against our competition the whole way through.
The haters will always hate, the same way I’ll always hate Detroit. Period.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
OMG
I hate the word “haters” but this is just freaking awesome.
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on May 3, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They just won the gold medal
and the best they can get their hands on to drink is fucking Coors Light?
SHAME ON YOU TEAM CANADA!
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I point you towards the Ducks and Stars
It’s been almost a decade since the Stars won, and they still get some credit for being able to finish. The Ducks get tons of respect despite being the laughing stock of the league for years for being a Disney franchise.
More pointedly, the Wings use to get the very same crap we get now, and now they are the most feared team in the league.
There will always be haters out there, but the vast majority of pundits shut the fuck up once you get it done.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Hmm
The only time I ever hear about the Ducks winning is when discussing CA teams and, specifically, the shortcomings of the Sharks to date. I also see a lot of “yeah, but they didn’t really earn it” in regards to various teams / Cup runs.
I guess we’ll see how it all pans out when we cross that threshold.
'The good news is, there's a little more room in the penalty box; there's only five Sharks in there now.' -- Randy Hahn, VAN @ SJS 8 April 2010
I'm not sure if the cup will help
they’ll still hate..conspiracies and refs will make our cup a fluke cup…blah blah wah wah wah
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I highly doubt that.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 3, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
We'll see...
When we win the Cup and people stop their bitchin I owe you beer.
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
RABBLE RABBLE ABOUT THE REFS
In other news, Joe Pavs photoshop expo open for business.
Bring the goods.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
yessss
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on May 3, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
buuuuuttttttttt Plankerton…..we’re bored…next game is tomorrowwwww….:P
"God save us all." - FTF Staff
by mssjsclowie29 on May 3, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Good write-up!
A few errors though Mr. Ivano
a) I believe it was Rafalski’s shot that Holmstrom tipped
b) Nabokov made a save in this POSTseason not offseason :p
c) It’s Stuart – not Stewart (That was Colorado’s guy :D)
Anyway, good points, and I hope to see a great one tomorrow! GO SHARKS! =D
Go Sharks!
Have to say I love how the Wings always seem to be the victims. They are basically regarded as one of if not the best franchises in the league and the most feared team to face, yet they act as if they are a team like Phoenix or Nashville. Somehow nobody respects them and the league wants nothing more than to hold them back from anything. Yes, the officiating was a bit loose in game 2, but that’s to be expected in the playoffs just like it is every year (to be honest watching all the series? This year the officiating has actually been far better in the post season than it has in a long time).
The big thing i’ve noticed though is this. The Sharks in the first two games have more or less played the Wings in a way that we haven’t seen them do so before. Not being intimidated by the fact that it’s Detroit and have just gone out and played their game. I think a big thing is that Detroit and their fans are so used to their team just controlling the puck and getting the majority of calls that come with having the puck all the time, that it’s kind of a shell shock to have a team that is bigger and stronger than you having the puck more. The Sharks have had stretches of both games where they absolutely dominated play, and that translated in Power Plays. The Wings have had their stretches too and that is when they have drawn penalties. The Sharks have just done a good job moving their feet and sorting out their own end. (oh, and not whining to the refs constantly)
Really now?
Detroit fans plan tin foil hat flashmob
Prior to Game 3 at Joe Louis Arena tomorrow, she’s imploring fellow Wings fanatics to descend onto the Gordie Howe entrance donning the official headgear of Red Wings Nation: tin-foil hats. Long story short: even if you’re not a ticketed attendant, you’ll have the chance to meet up with other Wings fans in protest of the ridiculous refereeing fiasco in this series…
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on May 3, 2010 11:12 PM PDT reply actions
Do you think they know what the tin-foil hat joke is? It seems to have gone over their heads a bit.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
NHL conspiracy?
Wings fans are doing a pretty good job of making themselves look bad. Do they not realize that it’s the cRaZy people who wear tinfoil hats? Not the level headed ones?
by CK Sharks Fan on May 4, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Just heard this song...
Gotta say, reminds me of about the last day or so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m0smgVgbwM
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