Question of the day
Megadolon has graciously given you his time machine to travel to the 2011 postseason. He asked you to do some terrible things in the back of a biker bar with him in order to obtain the device, but once you make the jump into the future, everything to do with that economy sized tub of mayonnaise and tennis racket signed by Andre Agassi is forgotten. Your memory wiped as clean as your col--
Stop. Moving on.
In this future, the San Jose Sharks have made the postseason, but anything outside of that is an unknown. They may or may not have debuted a third jersey that has orange as the primary color. Players such as Patrick Marleau may or may not have been re-signed, Joe Pavelski may or may not have been lured away with a gigantic offer sheet.
There are no clues as to what this team looks like except your gut feeling about Doug Wilson's approach to this offseason. Alexei Yashin could have come out of retirement to play in San Jose. Pierre McGuire could be behind the bench in a coaching role.
Just before exiting the wormhole, you are presented with a choice.
In the first choice you are taken to mid-April, an hour before the puck is set to drop in game one of the NHL playoffs. Tickets to each and every game will be provided, both home and away. If the Sharks win the Stanley Cup, you would watch them throughout their journey and witness the Captain raise it over his head in supreme jubilation. If they lose in the second round, you will see a dejected team leave the ice with their heads hung low. Regardless, you experience every single twist and turn that the grueling emotional marathon provides.
However, twenty four hours after the Sharks final series is completed, you are forced to return to your previous existence. Your memory is erased, and the 2010-2011 NHL season is eventually canceled. It never happened. You have become Joel Barish in The Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind, but unlike him, will never realize what you went through. It never existed, except in the moment when you were present within it.
In the second choice, you are once again taken to mid-April an hour before the puck is set to drop in game one of the NHL playoffs. Just like the first scenario, they could lose in the first round or go on to win the Stanley Cup. But this time, it is different. You are given a roster sheet containing the players and coaching staff but are unable to watch the Sharks go on their postseason run. All you are provided is the final score at the end of each game via text message. San Jose could have come back from a one goal deficit in the waning moments of game seven to win their first championship in franchise history, but the message still reads Sharks defeat Team X 3-2, win the Stanley Cup. No one can describe the action to you. You are essentially blind to the total experience, but filled with the knowledge of what happened.
Twenty four hours after the Sharks final series is completed you do not return to your previous existence, and instead continue on with your life. The 2011 NHL season was never canceled unlike the first scenario following your trip. Everything that happened was real. You are then presented with a DVD. This DVD contains a three minute highlight video of the Sharks postseason that you are only able to watch one time. When you decide to sit down to watch that DVD is completely up to you, but once it is finished, it can never be seen again. Every attempt by friends and family to describe to you the tiny details of the playoff run are fruitless. Your brain cannot comprehend anything about the 2011 postseason other than the final scores and three minute highlight reel you were provided.
In both scenarios, everything returns to normal for the 2011-2012 regular season, and you continue to observe the San Jose Sharks as you did this year.
To experience, or to know. That is your question of the day.
Go Sharks.
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I think experience has no entertainment value if you can't remember it.
So I’ll go with knowing. But goddamn that would be tough.
I shouldn't have said anything.
Okay read it early this morning then went about doing stuff and finally made a decision. It does no good to have experienced any of it if it turns out your memory is wiped and then the season is canceled anyways. Makes the whole experience false since it never happens.
So with that, I’m going with knowing. Even with the text msgs you are allowed to receive, you will feel joy or sadness and that in itself is an experience.
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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"It's getting harder and harder to differentiate between schizophrenics and people talking on a cell phone. It still brings me up short to walk by somebody who appears to be talking to themselves." -- Bob Newhart
Knowing is the right answer. Since I work nights this is how playoff games often go down for me – I have to keep checking my phone to see the final score. It’s nowhere near watching the real game, but it’s still exciting and still feels good when they win.
And the tennis racket is actually signed by Andre the Giant, but otherwise you are spot on about the time machine.
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Experience or know? You guys are dicks...
….but a great question.
I’d go with experience. Hockey, as in life, is about the journey not the destination. Drinking from Lord Stanley’s cup is not as sweet without the marathon of a regular season and ever amplifying sprint of the playoffs. There is no way to replicate the emotional highs and lows of watching the game via text message, and having lived that emotion is what will make the moment when the cup is finally lifted above the Sharks’ heads so immensely gratifying.
Although not remembering anything and having another lost season of hockey cancelled would be brutal. I never want to experience 2005 again.
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
sorry I'll elaborate a bit
got some coffee in me. Dodo here had to read this article several times in order to make a decision. I feel like being there is a whole different experience than on your phone and a recap. You got to be a part of something so special every time. I’ve had to check scores on my phone a few times and it just killed me that I couldn’t be there. Regardless of the result when I was at the Tank I had an amazing time. I will never forget it and as many times as I can make it to the Tank for the rest of my life I’d jump on that opportunity.
To quote yeti monster “its about the journey not the destination” that’s just the best description I can muster right now. I’d rather live, marvel and revel in the moment be right there with all of our guys and have it all erased than to not experience it at all and checking it out on DVD and my phone.
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by mssjsclowie29 on May 26, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
that made my brain hurt
but I would have to say know. What is the point of experiencing if you can’t remember it?
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NABOKOV: "You've got another five and a half minutes left in your season."
I'm going to agree with Ang
and say what’s the point of the experience if your memory is wiped and the season is canceled anyway? Sure, the experience would be great, but knowing is an experience also. With knowledge come the highs and lows of following your team, as Megalodon says, because no matter how you’re following the team and the games, I’m still excited when the Sharks win and saddened when they lose. Emotions are one of the best things about being a sports fan, and I’d like to remember them.
Oh boy, what's the fun in these?
Initially I thought experience. Seeing the boys in teal live raise the Cup over their heads would be amazing. But since you can’t remember it, I’d rather know something awesome had happened.
Knowing
A Stanley Cup win would do so much for the city and the franchise, enough that I would assume there would be another win in my lifetime that I could experience.
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Knowing
At first my reaction was to go with “experience”, especially after attending Game 5 vs Detroit, which I believe might have been my first playoff game if not clincher, but thinking it over I have to agree that the experience has no value if you can’t remember it or it never existed.
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by 408SharksFinatic on May 26, 2010 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
Knowing...
Mostly because of the reasons stated above. A combination of…
Angy:
It does no good to have experienced any of it if it turns out your memory is wiped and then the season is canceled anyways. Makes the whole experience false since it never happens.And TCY:
A Stanley Cup win would do so much for the city and the franchise, enough that I would assume there would be another win in my lifetime that I could experience.I mean, if I’m not going to remember it, what’s the point? I’d much rather ensure the Sharks at least get one Cup…even if I can’t experience it, persay, it’d make my future fandom pretty awesome. And then the next season I could go to the home opener for the banner raising ceremony, which would be a pretty epic experience.
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 26, 2010 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
Knowing
But mostly neither. Cause fuck mayo…
Honestly I couldn’t handle another PO’s until next year. Maybe I’m getting old but I need my summer off too. Camping, hiking, fly fishing in the mountains… a guy needs to restore the soul. Not to get all sappy but I think I need to grieve a little too before I can get ready for another season.
And it’s a great time to bring this up.
I’ve said this before a Sharks short PO run and now I’m saying it after a long PO run. The PO’s are too damn long. They allow too many teams in and it totally negates the reg season. After two rounds you should be playing for the cup.
I know it all about $$$$ and ain’t ever gonna happen. But fuck it… I don’t like it.
by skilletboy on May 26, 2010 10:58 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Set it up like baseball? 3 division winners, and then one wild card winner. 2 rounds, SC finals after? I could get behind that. I think hockey prides itself on its playoff grind, though…
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 26, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd be cool with that. It'd work even better w/ today's NHL parity.
Just think, when the WCF ended the Sharks only had 8 wins – just HALF of the 16 total needed to lift the Cup. It’s a hell of a grind, for sure.
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by SwisherThresher on May 26, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts are close to yours, with a very slight difference:
Add two teams for a total of 32 teams (yes there may have to be moving around, but there are enough markets in 2 Countries that would support them). Put 16 teams in each Conference, with 4 Divisions of 4 teams each. The Division Winners are the teams to go on to the playoffs. 2nd place in a Division isn’t good enough, and no wildcards. Winners are in, losers are out.
In addition, either take away OTL/SOL points and play full 20 minute OT periods until a team wins. Making it a win or lose game. OR, go with the 3-2-1-0 point format that the Olympics had. This would make teams work harder to win games in regulation instead of crawling to the end of the 3rd period to get the tie. In either case, wipe out the ****ing shootout, which shouldn’t be part of hockey, IMHO. If we have to keep the ****ing shootout, then make the OT a full 20 minutes, and make the points as follows: Reg win 5pts, OTWin 4pts, SOWin 3pts, OTL 2pts, SOL 1pt, and Reg loss 0pts. Would really make things interesting.
Change the checking rules to those that the Olympics use, and we’d have more entertaining games throughout the season, as exciting as the Olympics were, resulting with much fewer injuries throughout the season.
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Knowing
I was thinking of experience, but like sme people have said, if you can’t remember what happened then what’s the poing? You would never know you experienced it. 3 minute hightlight videos can be really intense and emotinal as well so I could be able to live with that.
"Obviously I don’t want to be in this position, but this is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on May 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
knowing
experiencing does no good if you can’t remember it.
MeThinksSports hasn't been updated since 2009...i think...
Knowing
Text and a quick highlight vid and I’m elated for life. I’d rather not go batty like Jim Carey’s character in ‘Sunshine,’ having erased an experience.
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on May 26, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
Knowing for sure
What good is an experience if you don’t remember it at all, and it never actually happened? It’s no different than a dream, except at least you can remember those; and i dream about the Sharks winning the cup every other day already.
Really the question is
Would you like to Dream about watching the Sharks live throughout the whole regular season and into the playoffs, but then remember the dream and then wake up to find out the 2010-2011 hockey season was canceled? Or would you rather the hockey season wasn’t canceled, and the Sharks actually did make the playoffs and possibly win the cup, but you personally would have extremely limited coverage.
Picking experience is kinda selfish imo.
I think i know what you were going for Plank, but i think you set the scenarios up wrong cuz this seems like a no brainer.
me thinks he
wanted to weed out the brains from the no brains…where did I fall :P
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by mssjsclowie29 on May 26, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to know
Good, bad, or indifferent, knowing is half the battle. Or at least that is what GI Joe taught me.
Knowing
Because this isn’t about me or what I want, it’s about my love of the team and wanting them to succeed. If experiencing it means it never really happens for them then that doesn’t appeal to me at all.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
WTF
Wait this is still Fear the Fin, right? I feel weirded out, that’s all.
But anyway!!! I’ll go with knowing. Only because I don’t want the ‘10-11 season cancelled for any reason. I think it would be too hard on the guys. Perhaps this is a strange answer, but I’d rather have hockey go on without me than to experience something that never actually happened. I don’t acid-trip much, can you tell?
Also, I’d rather have the guys experience it, even if I don’t get to. (The guys = the Sharks, of course). It’s their sport more than it is mine, no matter how much of a fan I am or think I am.
by JenLovesHockey on May 26, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
knowing for sure
as mentioned, i had to work through many of the games already and had to check it on my phone when i wasnt busy, granted the phone does tell me power plays, hits, shots and stuff like that so i would know if the boys came back. if there is a hockey heaven it would be the above experience over and over again, so ill just wait til i die for that lol. This question was a mind fuck for me at first…
I would rather know. A three minute highlight video can bring tears to your eyes too :)
totally agree with this lol. most of the video fan posts give me chills anyways
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Deja Vu
and the 2010-2011 NHL season is eventually canceled.
I always thought that 2004-2005 was the Sharks best chance to win a Cup so far. Maybe they really won the cup that year, and our memories were changed….
by calixtus on May 26, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
It’s possible…
This is where we hold them! This is where we fight! This is where they die! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time.
by ZeroIndulgence on May 26, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So who was the dick that picked experiencing in 04-05?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
by Evilducks on May 27, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry guys...
/shows self out
Please tell me we have moved past the dark ages of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
by Yeti Monster on May 27, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what... I'll just wait a year
Then I’ll experience AND know ;)
How cool? Think Steve Nash...
Knowing.
Knowing sticks with you… it puts a hop in your step, makes the cloudy days seem brighter, makes the cheap celebratory drinks taste finer, makes joy stick with you for a least a few months, knowing you support the defending champions, even if the suck the next year. With knowing you can celebrate it every day for a year if you so chose. With knowing, no one can ever take it from you.
Knowing.
"Fear the Fin: where some fans chose to swathe themselves in baseless optimism all season long." -CTGray
Experience
Knowing the Sharks had won the cup and that I hadn’t been there, and would never be able to fully understand the whole journey would feel empty and unsatisfying.
At least in some twisted alternate universe I would be able to experience the blissful highs of victory or the gut wrenching bittersweet pain of failure.
Experience
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whoa!
brava!!! Short and sweet.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
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by mssjsclowie29 on May 28, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions

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