San Jose Sharks Depth Chart: Center
Depth at the center position has always been one of the strengths of the Sharks system, but with the majority of the Sharks high round picks being used on defensive prospects in the past few years and the team’s top center prospects graduating to the NHL recently, the depth of the pivot position in the lower levels has slightly deteriorated. In fact, with much of the possible center talent moving to the wing position (McGinn, Ferriero, and possibly even Couture), the cupboard appears to be much more bare than it has in recent years.
However, the top of the Sharks depth chart in terms of talent is very strong, with three players capable of playing top-six minutes at the NHL level. Joe Thornton remains one of the game’s elite playmakers, third in points/game during the regular season since the NHL lockout during 2005-- only Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin have produced at a higher clip than Thornton, and with a strong postseason run under his belt during 2010, it's hard to envision a situation where he wouldn't continue to set the table during 2010-2011. The fact that Thornton is headed into a contract year should also provide enough motivation to stay in the top five of point producing centers, especially when one considers he will be playing alongside Dany Heatley.
Joe Pavelski had a breakout postseason during 2010, posting a point per game pace and showing up on nearly every early Conn Smythe Watch list available on the internet. No individual was better during the Sharks series' against Colorado and Detroit as Pavelski essentially put the team on his back and carried them with three game winners, and a game tying goal in game two against the Avalanche during the final seconds of the third period. He has matured into a solid two way center, with the aforementioned postseason heroics making him a guaranteed RFA signing and a vital member of the organization's future. Many expect the contract to come at a cap hit of anywhere from $3.5 M – $4.5M, which is well deserved and should be the first priority for Doug Wilson this summer.
Sitting third on our depth chart is Logan Couture, the top prospect in the Sharks system. After a short stint in San Jose earlier in the season, Couture racked up points in the AHL and continued to do so in his subsequent call up to the NHL club. He possesses dynamic hands, a solid net presence with an ability to deflect shots from the point, great vision, and a tireless work ethic in the corners. Couture showed late in the season and into the playoffs why he is such a highly touted prospect, and has effectively played his final game in the AHL. He is a lock to make the team out of camp next year, and has made the case that top-six minutes (possibly on the wing considering the great players San Jose possesses at the top of the center depth chart) are in his immediate future.
All three of these players are similar in terms of playing style, with both of them billed primarily as past first players. However, both Couture and Pavelski have shaken that label somewhat as their careers have progressed. Couture and Pavelski are also both capable two way players, and it’s entirely likely that Couture will be leaned upon to play at least a minute per game shorthanded as he becomes more comfortable at the NHL level.
The problem with the Sharks top-end depth is that it forces them to waste talent if the three aforementioned players all play their natural position. It would relegate Couture to third line duties, and although Couture showed that he was capable in that role, it’s not the best situation for a player with his offensive gifts. His talent is too significant to let toil on the third line during the majority of next year if he continues to progress as we expect the young 21 year old to do. As line combinations shifted in the Chicago series Couture found himself next to Joe Thornton, scoring the first goal in game four and continuing to drive the play in the right direction. It is a nice problem to have however, and allows Wilson more flexibility when examining the strengths and weaknesses of his current lineup.
By moving Couture to the wing (which is a possibility considering Patrick Marleau's impending free agency), the Sharks could look to Torrey Mitchell to serve as the third line pivot. Although Mitchell did improve as the year wore on, his troubles in the faceoff circle and lack of size make him a less than ideal candidate to take over the role full time. In addition, Mitchell played much of his time on the wing this year, and moving him back to center is something Fear The Fin would frown upon at this juncture.
The talent pool gets thinner from there-- both Manny Malhotra and Scott Nichol are UFA’s, and Malhotra will likely require more than the $700,000 he was paid this season to return to the team. Our estimates peg him around the $2.0 M he was offered on the open market last season by Atlanta, a deal he proved he deserved with a strong regular season. Considering the fact that he has just turned 30 years old, Malhotra wlll likely be looking for a multi-year deal and one last big payday before losing effectiveness due to an increasing age.
Steven Zalewski is next on our depth chart for potential San Jose Sharks. The 23 year old was second on the Worcester Sharks in points in 2009-2010, but his lack of size and experience indicates that he may not be a perfect fit in a full time role. Although he boasts solid two way instincts, Zalewski would benefit from another year in the minor leagues– he looked out of place while at the NHL level during his three game stint, and with the Sharks gearing up for another season filled with high expectations, it's likely his services will not be needed during opening day.
As far as upcoming draft strategy is concerned, the Sharks won’t be able to fill any immediate holes with their pick this year (it’s unlikely that they’d be able to do so with any positional need, considering their low draft position in the first round). Although San Jose does lack a premier player in the lower levels who is a surefire top-six candidate in the future, the long term draft strategy will likely be the same-- both the 25 year old Pavelski and the 21 year old Couture are capable of playing the position for years to come, and individuals such as Tommy Wingels, Justin Daniels, and Marek Viedensky have shown promise alongside the aforementioned Ferriero and Zalewski.
Go Sharks.
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I’m not sure placing Couture on the center of the 3rd line is really wasting his talent…assuming McL gives them their minutes. The Sharks, IMO, could really benefit from having more lines that can score. And if Couture gets his rhythm back with wingers like McGinn and Ferriero…they could be a dangerous weapon for us to throw at teams! Imagine 3 lines with potent offense! Awesome!
Although, if the team resigns Malhotra, I’d be more than ok with Couture moving up to the top 6, and letting Malhotra center the third line. I really liked Couture’s willingness to head to the net and be there to block the vision of the goalie and his hands were awesome at tipping things in. That’s something Thornton and Heatley could use…and Couture proved adept a few times this season playing with Heatley and tipping in some of his shots!
Like you said, not a bad problem to have!
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 31, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions
Re: Guys looking lost coming up
I think Joe Thornton would look lost playing with Jody Shelley and Brad Staubitz.
The kids might be ready so long as management and coaching put them in situations where they can succeed.
There’s a reason Logan Couture picked up the “Bust” monicker, however undeserved.
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Meh, you could say that. But with Couture, you always saw the talent. Opportunities to score were wasted, but we knew he would be fine in the long run.
Zalewski, on the other hand, didn’t show me the same type of promise. Sure, he’s not the player Couture is, but I saw a guy who needed more AHL time.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 1, 2010 12:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not going to disagree on Couture's potential and potential delivered
But Prince Logan is a special case. He was basically good enough to crack a very tough lineup from the get go. For some of the other kids, they might need a little something extra to make the show, such as linemates.
However, in my brief conversation with a certain knowledgeable management individual about kids from Worcester who’d be “ready to go,” Zalewski’s name did not come up. So, what do I know.
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Not saying Zalewski can’t make it eventually. But do I want him on a team that has serious cup aspirations? Nope.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
When we first got Shelley, Ron Wilson put him on Thornton's line.
Shelley had more goals than PIM in his first 10 games or so for us.
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Yeah i don’t think our depth at center is an immediate concern by any means. Which is why i’m ok with using our 1st round pick again if it means we can get Jarome Iginla.
Couture could easily play wing on one of the top two lines, but hopefully we won’t need him to just yet. I think he could help us to have a very dangerous 3rd line composed of McGinn/Malhotra/Couture.
Couture would be a waste at any where other than center.
I really think he would do best centering his own scoring line, maybe with McGinn and Ferriero as linemates. Losing the 1st again this year is not an option IMO mainly because our depth at every other position is absolutely terrible. Unless Braun, Schaus or Irwin really surprise in training camp, there is no top 4 dman in the system right now, and the dearth of wing prospects is ridiculous, even if it has been somewhat alleviated by Ferriero and Zalewski’s move to wing. (Zalewski plays much better on the wing than at center.)
Last year, I would have agreed with you...
But after seeing Couture play so well on the wing, I’m fine with him in that role… especially if it means more ice time for him.
The depth at other positions isn’t as terrible as you make it sound, but it’s pretty poor. That’s what you get when you have a playoff team for four straight years and have a tendency to trade picks. If the Sharks want to field a strong team this year, DW is going to have to get past his phobia of signing big free agents (not including our own)
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 1, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
i disagree that there is no top 4 dman in the system right now. they just wont be ready next year, and probably should start as a bottom pairing. Petrecki and Moore could both end up being top 4 and we drafted another one this year.
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I think he means top 4 defenseman that’s ready this year, and I agree with him. However, I’d like to see how many other teams can just pluck top 4 guys from their AHL team and throw them into that role in the NHL.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jun 1, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I mostly agree with you
Couture’s skill set is a playmaking top six center… We just happen to have several of those right now. Good problem to have…but a problem none the less… Couture will never replace a guy like Thornton but I think has the potential to be a much more skiller playmaker than Pavelski and Marleau. Marleau I see much more as a scorer than Couture.
I don’t like Couture centering the third line for much longer unless they really transform it into a legitimate scoring line.
by skilletboy on Jun 1, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t like Couture centering the third line for much longer unless they really transform it into a legitimate scoring line.
I would love to see a 3rd line that’s given minutes and is a legitimate scorer. That kind of depth would make us very hard to defend against.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 1, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this
McGinn-Couture-Ferriero/Mitchell would make a great 3rd scoring line. The wingers speed would help compensate for Couture’s lack of skating ability too.
And, McGinn-Couture-Ferriero, I think, played together at times in Worcester (when they were all down at the same time) and did pretty freaking well. I wouldn’t mind letting them continue to grow together as a line. Could provide some cheap, awesome, young depth for our scoring.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 1, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Now that he's not longer a Duck
I’m really starting to love Chris Pronger…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/With-stealing-and-taunting-Chris-Pronger-leads-?urn=nhl,244882#remaining-content
That’s just pure hilarity.
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yeah I read that earlier and couldn’t help but laugh
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Even though he played mostly on the wing under McLellan, Marleau can still play center, especially 3rd line center when needed.
I wonder what McLellan is thinking seeing how hugely important 3rd and 4th lines are for Chicago this spring. If his thinking is changing on the topic, I think we may see Couture on the top line with Heatley and Thornton and Marleau centering the 3rd line.
Assuming he stays here, of course, which I don’t doubt he will.
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Although I agree Marleau can play center, and is a good one at that, I think his speed better suits him to being on the wing. I also really can’t see Marleau being a 3rd line player and thus getting third line minutes. Just my opinion.
by sharks in oc on Jun 1, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Add Marleau’s PP/PK time, and his PT is that of Thornton and Heatley, if not more.
Look at what Chicago is doing. They beat the Sharks with role players, and now they’s doing the same thing to Philly.
Marleau is not a role player, but if we can spread the scoring a bit for those games and playoff series’ when top lines are shut down, why not do that?
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marleau on the second line again
I think he should be back on the second line with younger guys. He did so well a few years back with bernier and pavelski (forgot if it was pavelski). Put him back there and shift couture up so he can develop into a goal scorer like he can be.
Thornton-Heatley-Couture
Pavelski-Marleau-setoguchi/clowe
If we keep marleau it will be nice to have 7 top six forwards, just what do we do with the seventh?
We seem to have this issue every year now...
Becuase it isn’t good, cap wise, to have a guy getting 10 min a game on the third line making 3.5-4M a year…
by skilletboy on Jun 1, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
We'd probably see Clowe leaving
Personally, I liked the Clowe(or Pavelski)/Marleau/Bernier line. However, having a guy like Thornton (the best set-up man in the league IMHO) definitely helped Patty. Still, having a guy like Pavelski would help him, and he’d also be able to utilize his skill.
The HTML was great, but when they struggled they REALLY struggled. A more balanced line combo like this would result in better utilization of skill (ex: speed on the second line) and also make it tougher for teams like Chicago, who are strong defensively, to squeeze out the potential for offense.
How cool? Think Steve Nash...
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