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Establishing Joe Pavelski's Market Value

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Joe Pavelski may have been the most important player during the Sharks march to the 2010 Western Conference Finals.

In fact, he just might have saved San Jose's season.

With forty seconds remaining in game two, and the Sharks already down 1-0 in the series following a heartbreaking loss the night before that saw a puck careen off Rob Blake's skate past Evgeni Nabokov, San Jose entered the zone trailing by a goal and desperate to score. And while dropping the first two games at home may have not been the death knell for a team as talented as the Sharks, the recent history of a 2009 postseason loss to Anaheim would have threatened to tear apart the delicate fabric holding together the city's collective psyche.

Fortunately, Pavelski didn't let it get that far. Joe Thornton found Dany Heatley between the circles, and after Craig Anderson made a marvelous save in-tight on the Canadian sniper, Pavelski quickly jumped on the rebound and rifled the shot into the back of the net to send HP Pavilion into a frenzy. The comeback would be complete later that night with an overtime goal by Devin Setoguchi, but no score rang louder during the entire Sharks postseason than Pavelski's in the dying seconds of that game two.

As it turns out, he was just getting started.

From a game four winner against Colorado in overtime, to back to back two-goal affairs against the Detroit Red Wings that led to a 2-0 series lead the Sharks would never surrender, Pavelski ended his 2010 postseason with 9 goals, 8 assists, 17 points, a +6, and 3 game-winners. He led the team in four out of those five categories (Boyle taking the assist crown with 12), and was a monumental influence in all assets of the game.

To let him go after such a remarkable postseason would be lunacy, and by all accounts, Pavelski remains one of the most important re-signings Sharks General Manager Doug Wilson will make this offseason. Estimates have ranged from $3.0MM-$6.0MM for his services, with hypothetical roster compilations becoming more and more dependent on his compensation level with each passing day.

Allowing Pavelski to walk would be a travesty. But just how much is he worth on the open market?

Star-divide

In order to establish a baseline of comparison, I have compiled a sample of five other forwards who entered free agency in a similar situation as Joe Pavelski. These players signed their deals following the NHL lockout when they were in the 23-25 year old range, and will see the culmination of their contract result in unrestricted free agency. In order to fine-tune the sample even more, I have tried to select players whose contracts will likely be similar to Pavelski's in length of term, which I have estimated to be roughly five years.


Joe Pavelski Comparables

Player
Year Pos Age GP G/gm A/GM pts/gm PP TOI
PK TOI
LEngth Cap Hit
Joe Pavelski
09-10
C
25
67
0.37 0.39
0.76 3:02 2:24 N/A
N/A
-
-
-
-
-
- -
- - - -
-
Ryan Kesler
09-10
C
25
82
0.30 0.61
0.91 2:45 2:39 6 years
$5.00MM
Loui Eriksson
08-09
W
23
82
0.44 0.33 0.77 3:00 1:56 6 years
$4.26MM
Brad Boyes
07-08
C
25
82
0.52 0.27 0.79 3:54 0:05 4 years
$4.00MM
Mikko Koivu
06-07
C
23
82
0.24 0.42 0.66 3:17 1:36 4 years
$3.25MM
Derek Roy
06-07
C
23
75
0.28 0.56 0.84 2:58 2:32 6 years
$4.00MM

Pavelski is very much a Derek Roy type, underrated across the league despite some notable contributions to his teams success*. He'll log some quality time against the tougher competition opposing teams have to offer, and put up roughly 60-75 points a season in a second line role. These types of players are well worth the compensation due to their commitment to a two-way game, and are vital cogs in the machine of any team attempting to be successful both in the short and long term.

*The notion that Pavelski is underrated should probably be considered outdated due to the vast amount of media attention he received during the 2010 postseason, but pre-April this sentiment certainly held true.

It's entirely possible that Derek Roy's contract could be considered undervalued due to the increase in the upper limit since he signed his contract-- an increase $50.3MM during the first year of his deal (07-08) to the $58.0MM or so that is reportedly set to be instituted for Pavelski's first year (10-11) should be considered when making comparisons amongst these contracts. Despite playing on the wing and possessing more goal scoring ability (or at least a more tangible representation of goal scoring ability, when taking his line of 36-29 during the last two seasons into account), Loui Eriksson has put up numbers similar to Pavelski across these situations, and should serve as another barometer for assessing how much Pavelski will command this offseason.

Furthermore, players such as Nathan Horton and Jordan Staal, who were left out of this analysis due to the fact they signed their contracts in their young twenties, also provide us a baseline for Pavelski's contract due to similar skill sets. Both players come in at $4.00MM per year.

However, one must also look at the contract decisions San Jose Sharks General Manager Doug Wilson has made in respect to his restricted free agents in the same age range as Pavelski following the NHL lockout. Wilson is notoriously generous with his contracts for returning players-- Kent Huskins, Torrey Mitchell, and Matt Carle will attest to this, and to some degree, Patrick Marleau can as well. Coming off a 48 point season that saw him score 19 goals and compile a -19, Marleau was awarded a two year $6.3MM per deal that, while obviously worth the money in light of his most recent production as well as the numbers accrued in the two prior years (86 and 78 points respectively), was quite a pay increase from the $4.16MM Marleau was making before.

So how does this seemingly carefree allocation of cap resources translate to the 23-25 age range in San Jose, and most importantly, how do Pavelski's numbers compare to those who were signed before him?


Joe Pavelski Franchise Comparables

Player
Year Pos Age GP G/gm A/GM pts/gm PP TOI
PK TOI
LEngth Cap Hit
Joe Pavelski
09-10
C
25
67
0.37 0.39
0.76 3:02 2:24 N/A
N/A
-
-
-
-
-
- -
- - - -
-
Ryane Clowe
08-09
W
26
71
0.31 0.42
0.73 3:05 0:20 4 years
$3.63MM
Milan Michalek
07-08
W
23
79
0.30 0.39 0.70 3:20 0:30 6 years
$4.33MM
Joe Pavelski
07-08
C
25
82
0.23 0.26 0.49 2:19 1:01 2 years
$1.64MM
Jonathan Cheechoo
05-06
W
25
82
0.68 0.45 1.13 5:08 1:51 5 years
$3.00MM

Milan Michalek and Ryane Clowe are likely the most relevant examples to the current day understanding of where Pavelski's contract will end up-- Pavelski's current deal came after his first full season in the NHL, and Cheechoo's contract, which could be considered one of the better signings that the NHL has seen in awhile* based off previous year production, is removed from being especially relevant to the current cap climate surrounding the NHL today.

*$3.00MM over five years for a player coming off a Rocket Richard season is quite an achievement, especially when one considers that came after a year in which Cheechoo scored 28 goals.

In respect to Pavelski's role on the team, it is abundantly clear he is much more vital to the success of the team than Ryane Clowe. A one-dimensional power forward who is phenomenal along the boards but struggles defensively and in transition, Clowe's compensation is the absolute minimum Pavelski would accept on the open market. In regards to Milan Michalek, Wilson was likely paying for potential when he divvied out what was the most lucrative contract in the history of the organization. The young 23 year old forward was dangerous in open ice and able to pick corners with regularity due to a quick and accurate wrist shot. Wilson invested in a player who he saw as developing into a perennial thirty goal scorer, and while his contributions to the penalty kill had not been realized yet, the groundwork was laid for him to achieve that aspect of defensive responsibility.

The question of whether or not Wilson overpaid for these two players is likely a debate that will continue to provide entertainment during the long months of August, when hockey news is at a standstill and player movement is nearly non-existent. Clowe's contract, and Michalek's to some degree, likely look worse due to the salary allocation San Jose has employed during their years with the team-- both are serviceable players with various upsides, and on a non-cap limit team, they would be considered fair wages for players of their caliber and expertise.

If that is how Wilson will approach his negotiations with Pavelski, then expecting a deal north of $5.0MM is alarmism at it's finest-- although Pavelski's postseason performance was noteworthy and of the greatest pleasure to fans across the city of San Jose, favorable shooting percentages played a large role in that run. This is not to disparage Pavelski's contributions or skill set, but is to say that a 60 point per year player nearing the end of his developmental boom is not worth that type of money, and Doug Wilson will be readily aware of that.

In conclusion, taking comparable players both within and outside of the organization into account, I would expect to see Pavelski ink something in the 5 year $4.2-$4.5MM range. His contributions to the penalty kill, locker room leadership, ability to log minutes in tough situations, and 25 goal per year potential make him deserving of this type of contract. With the future of the team in limbo as players like Patrick Marleau and Evgeni Nabokov set to enter unrestricted free agency, taking care of your homegrown talent in order to ensure the future organizational success is paramount at this juncture.

Pavelski provides you with that and more. A pleasure to watch night in night out, there's no doubt we will be seeing him in teal next season.

Hard to say I'd have it any other way.

 

Go Sharks.

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All of this waiting for roster news

Is almost the same as rooting on the edge of our seats for the Sharks to score during a dry spell or critical moment. Although Sharks fans are (somewhat) used to the slowness of DW, it doesn’t make the waiting any easier.
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by Soloact on Jun 12, 2010 3:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Pavelski shouldn't get Kessler money

Hell, I don’t think Kessler should get Kessler money. 4.5 should be the absolute max and even then I’ll be irritated. 4M should be where they’re looking for Pavs.

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by Evilducks on Jun 12, 2010 3:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree with Evil

Pav’s is a solid second line center, and his lack of skating speed I believe will take some of the lustre off of his attractiveness to other teams, given the focus on speed in today’s NHL.

What Pav’s does offer are a lot of intangibles that dont always show up in stats beyond his production in the face-off circle. Good decisions and positioning on the ice, toughness in the scoring areas,solid back-checking, and a ton of heart.

by rumpledforeskin on Jun 14, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you guys just about nailed it.

$4.2 mil/5 yrs sounds about right.

If some other teams offer $5 mil +, I think we should seriously consider taking the picks. That kinds of money means a pretty nice compensation package. Plus, we’d have more cash for Patty. That being said, I do really want Pavs back.

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by jwizzle241 on Jun 12, 2010 3:31 AM PDT reply actions  

me too

I just got his fucking jersey and I love that thing. and pavs…call it a bromance.

by Sharkwagon on Jun 12, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d really hope the Sharks come to terms with Pavelski before July 1, to prevent some other team from trying to poach him with an obscene contract…

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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 12, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another positive of locking up Pavelski, and Setoguchi for that matter, is a better understanding of what kind of cap space the team will have on July 1st.

More on that tomorrow, but agreed— locking him up early avoids the pitfalls of another team’s GM taking a run at him. I’m not all that concerned about this cropping up, but it is definitely a relevant point.

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by Mr. Plank on Jun 12, 2010 10:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Letting Pavelski would be beyond unacceptable

Resigning him has to be our #1 priority. Hes a restricted free agent, so we can match anybody’s offer. Sure hope the Office understands how important he really is to our team.

Letting him walk means less chance to win the Cup.

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by Mini Hulk on Jun 12, 2010 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

+1 with the bromance thing

I’ve got a white and black jersey but both are autographed and hangin’ on my wall. Guess I’ll buy the teal jersey soon to complete the trifecta.

He absolutely will be signed. There is no way the Sharks let him walk. I’m sure if they offered 4.2 mil/yr he’d take it. I don’t think he’s worth the 5 mil yet. I’m thinking he has a break out season this year with 70+ points. I’ve just got that feeling…

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by Fear the 8 on Jun 12, 2010 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

With the way Pavs played in the playoffs

The Sharks should give him whatever he wants.

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by 49er16 on Jun 12, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

5 years/4.5 million per

That’s kinda where I’ve had him pegged since the season ended. And he’ll earn every penny of it. He really is a vital cog in this team…scoring, clutchness, defense, PK, PP (on the point, or up the middle, or on the wing…so versatile). Also, he has future C written all over him.

4.5 might seem like a lot right now, and may cost us someone like Marleau, but I have a feeling that in 2-3 years, we’ll be laughing that we got him so cheap (like Chicago would be laughing about how cheap they have Patrick Sharp…you know, if they weren’t in salary cap hell from their other moves).

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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 12, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I love Pavelski, but...

He had a great postseason, and might be worth a lot, but the fact is that the Sharks dont have the cap space to keep overpaying players. I want to see him back here as much as the next guy, but if some team offers $5million it might be worth letting him go. The team cant afford to piss away their future based mainly on 2 good playoff series.
Compared to Thornton’s $7.2 million hit, just over $5 mil might seem acceptable, but compared to Getzlaf, whose hit is $5.325, paying that much for Pavelski, a second line centre, is just too much, especially considering how much cap space is tied up in Heatley and Thornton.
Bear in mind that if someone wants to overpay for him, not only do the Sharks get picks, but also more cap space to bring back Marleau and get a top 4 defenseman. Couture could fill the gap and has the potential to develop into a better player than Pavelski.
I do love Pavelski, but the team can’t let sentiment get in the way of good business

by tiburon on Jun 12, 2010 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

No...

Thats not it at all, although you’re greatly undervaluing the importance of “saving a few bucks.” With the amount Heatley and Thornton are getting and the fact that San Jose struggles to attract free agents, that the Sharks are in desperate need of a defensive improvement, that players like Malholtra aren’t going to sign as cheaply again, overpaying for Pavelski could have huge negative effects on the future of the franchise.
If you can sign him for in the low $4millions, great. But while other teams have the salary cap space to overpay for Pavelski, the Sharks dont.
Like i said, the benefits that the salary cap space and the picks provide are pretty substantial, and its not worth overpaying for Pavelski simply because he is a fan favorite, owing in no small part to the fact that he is American.
I want to resign him for $4-4.2 million, that would be great, but it doesnt make sense, as painful as it might be, to pay much more than that for him.

by tiburon on Jun 12, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Understandable

I guess our best chance to keep him is if Pavelski wants to stay in San Jose.
We can always match what other teams offer, but we can only offer so much, and it sucks. I can’t imagine him in another jeresy, but if it happens, he has my full support. I’ll just be disappointed.

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by Mini Hulk on Jun 14, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

for sure

Pavs is a great player, but I agree with tib and evilducks… $4.0-$4.2 for about 4 years, and you let him walk if it gets above $4.5 since Couture could probably do a close impression of him.

I’d be willing to add on a 5th or 6th year if that cap number drops below $4mil.

by ruben398 on Jun 12, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

For him it works the other way. By the time he’s ready to re-sign, the cap will have gone up, and his salary will go up as well. More years= more money for Pavelski and Seto.

by tarlinian on Jun 12, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention you’re eating up his “prime” years when guys usually tend to cash in on their last big contract (28-31).

I agree— I’m not sure a 5-6 year deal necessarily equals less cash for Pavelski. It would likely be similar compensation for what he would get with 4.

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by Mr. Plank on Jun 12, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah i doubt we see Pavs signing a deal for 5-6 years at 4-4.5 million. I think if he did that it would basically mean that he doesn’t think that his skills would ever advance to a level where he would be worth much more than 4 million. I’d assume that he’d want a 3-4 year deal at 4 million.

It all depends on the confidence Pavelski has in himself and how much more he believes he can develop; but he’s only 25 and he just had a seemingly breakout performance in the playoffs so i doubt he’s going to try to ‘cash in’ on a big long contract at such an early stage in his career.

I think he signs with the Sharks before July 1st at fairly reasonable price of around 4 million for 3 or 4 years in hopes of adding a captaincy to his resume before he turns 29 and cashes in on his last big contract. Count on it!

by Khaaz on Jun 12, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

DW should definitely work to sign Pavs before July 1st for 4 – 4.5 million. I’m sure that would be enough, but if they don’t do it before July 1st, then he’s probably going to get 5 million dollar offers that we shouldn’t try to match. We would get back a 1st and a 3rd round pick and give ourselves some much need cap space, so it wouldn’t be such a bad thing. A part of me also feels like Coutures skills are a kind of wasted playing as a winger, and i think after another year or so he would be able to fill in for Pavs nicely.

by Khaaz on Jun 12, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

err woops, we’d get a 2nd round pick too.

by Khaaz on Jun 12, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

since Couture could probably do a close impression of him.

Bolded the key word there.

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by Nael M. on Jun 12, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Reply fail. >:|

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by Nael M. on Jun 12, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did anyone mention...

What happens if a Jackass GM offersheets him?

Remember Marty McSorely as Color guy? ... ouch.

by banx on Jun 12, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Pavelski has to sign the offer sheet— if he is offered $5.5MM per year, he could very well turn it down and decide to stay in San Jose (not that I would expect him to). In other words, Pavelski is essentially a free agent. The only thing that separates him from a UFA like Marleau is the compensation San Jose would receive if they decide not to match the opposing team’s offer.

$994,433 or below – No Compensation
$994,434 – $1,506,717 – 2011 3rd round pick
$1506,718 – $3,013,433 – 2011 2nd round pick
$3,013,433 – $4,520,150 – 2011 1st round pick, 2011 3rd round pick
$4,520,151 – $6,026,867 – 2011 1st round pick, 2011 2nd round pick, 2011 3rd round pick
$6,026,868 – $7,533,584: 2011 1st round pick, 2012 1st round pick, 2011 2nd round pick, 2011 3rd round pick
$7,533,584 and up: 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 1st round picks

I bolded the area where San Jose would be susceptible to letting Pavelski go. Frankly I don’t think he will command that much, even with all of the lunacy that occurs during free agency, but it still is a worthy concern to have.

Also keep in mind that until the NHL releases its official salary cap numbers for next season, these compensation levels are outdated. With the cap rumored to increase $2.00MM next year, these levels will see a bump as well. Around $4.65MM+ or so is the offer sheet that Pavelski will have to sign in order for San Jose to have an opportunity to receive a first, second, and third round pick. Anything below that gets you into the first and third range— I’d wager a large amount of money DW doesn’t allow that to happen.

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by Mr. Plank on Jun 12, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was perfect...

Thanks for that, that was actually the info I was wondering about.

I don’t actually think it’s that far fetched seeing as he just came off his best playoff performance ever, and is the type of young leader a lot of teams are always trying to find. There’s nutty GM’s in this league and unfortunately they’re working for teams that are in the rebuilding process. (COUGH Lowe (Oilers)) We don’t have to look back too far to remember the Penner offer sheet. One of the top 5 worst contracts says Puck Daddy.

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by banx on Jun 13, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

4.25 million for a 30 goal scorer like Dustin Penner doesn’t seem so bad to me, especially on a team like the Oilers. He has about double the goals as the next highest goal scorer on the team. I wonder what his numbers would look like on a good team with some quality linemates.

by Khaaz on Jun 13, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing is, last year he had 17 goals and 20 assists, and the year before he had 23 goals and 24 assists. Those are not numbers that warrant you $4.24M, especially when the cap was lower like it was a few years ago and when he’s not very good at defense or a big playoff performer.

This was the first year he actually somewhat played to his contract, which is why it’s considered so bad.

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by mymclife on Jun 13, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well Lowe obviously didn’t know his first two season with the Oilers would be so poor. Signing an enormous (he’s about the same size and weigh at Dustin Byfuglien) 24 year old power forward who just scored 30 goals in his first full NHL season to a 4 million dollar contract doesn’t seem that crazy to me. The contract was a little inflated at the time i guess, but Lowe obviously saw the potential and took a risk; and now it’s paying off.

I just don’t see how you could say it’s one of the top 5 worst contracts in NHL history.

by Khaaz on Jun 13, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

what else did he give up?

Draft picks? (who was picked in those spots)
Money, players etc…

Just the $ amount to Penner doesn’t make tell the whole story.

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by banx on Jun 14, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just responding to the comment about his contract being one of the worst in NHL history. Offer sheeting for that much money is almost never a good idea though. The first round pick they gave up for Dustin Penner ended up belonging to the Buffalo Sabres and they used it to get Tyler Myers (rookie of the year finalist this year). So without even looking at the other picks they gave up, it’s pretty safe to say that while his contract might not be bad for his talents, he probably wasn’t worth giving up all the picks.

by Khaaz on Jun 14, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Think We're OK...

I dont think Pavelski is the type of player looking to go somehwere else. The last thing I read following the loss to Chicago was the team wanted to stay together. Of course I’ll take that for what it’s worth. I think Wilson knows that getting him signed is critical, even if it means passing up on some other young players, or God forbid the Prodigal Son Nabokov. I dont see Pavs as the douchebag looking for a 7 million dollar payday like Carrot Top Campbell did (even though he did manage to have his cake and eat it too, which infuruates me).

I think everybody will be smart about this and make Pavelski an exceedingly (but deservedly) wealthier man than he is presently for his talents while keeping him in a Sharks jersey. Because seriously, who wants to make 6 or 7 million a year as an Atlanta Thrasher or an Edmonton Oiler?

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by ATLsharkfan on Jun 12, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I really don’t like the prospect of our two best PKers (Marleau and Pavelski) both being free agents and NOT SIGNED YET!

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by stufflife on Jun 12, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

The signings around the league only started this week, I’m not stressed yet. In 2 weeks I’ll start to worry.

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by Evilducks on Jun 12, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

June 30 is going to be a rough day around my house, but for many other reasons besides the Sharks. At least this year we won’t plan on house-sitting for friends without cable or internet service on July 1.

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by stufflife on Jun 12, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m confident JoePa will be resigned. Not doing so after his miracles during the playoffs would be a disaster.

by sharks in oc on Jun 12, 2010 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

SIGN HIM NOW

if he isn’t resigned, i’ll cry myself to sleep…okay, maybe that’s a little too much, but you get the point

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by serrapadre716 on Jun 12, 2010 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmm

Keep in mind that the Hawks just locked up both Toews and Kane for a little over 6 per year. (and we’re going to be in cap hell next season).

Horton signed a long term extension a little younger than Pavs is now so I expect something like 3-5 years and 4.5-5 per as a cap hit.

I wonder if someone like the Kings or Blues don’t offer Pavelski an offer sheet if they miss out on Kovalchuk, (Sorry to bring up the possibility…but it’s out there..) To whit, I can’t imagine Pavelski in any other sweater, nor do I want to.

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