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San Jose Allows Philadelphia to begin contract talks with Nabokov

Flyers GM Paul Holmgren chats on the phone during the 2011 NHL Entry Draft.

The Sharks have granted the Philadelphia Flyers permission to discuss a contract with Evgeni Nabokov and his agent in the remaining days leading up to the July 1st Trade Deadline. If Nabokov signs a contract with the Eastern Conference Champions, San Jose would receive a seventh round selection at the 2011 NHL Entry Draft in St. Paul, Minnesota.

This news comes after the Sharks announced they would not be re-signing Nabokov this offseason, citing salary cap concerns as the main reason he would not return.

As we reported earlier today, Philadelphia and San Jose were engaged in talks throughout the last twenty four hours during the Draft, constantly checking in with one another in between selections.

"Evgeni Nabokov is a good goalie," Holmgren said. "If he was to become a free agent, anyone would say that I think."

If the Flyers do not sign Nabokov to a contract before July 1st, it appears as if San Jose would not receive a pick in the deal. The trade market for his services was obviously depleted considering the Sharks had little leverage in negotiations with opposing teams, making a trade with stipulations four days before free agency likely one of the better options for the Sharks.

Another interesting bit of information from the Flyers camp today came when they drafted Tye McGinn, current San Jose Shark Jamie McGinn's brother. Tye is a 6'2 205 pound left winger coming out of the QMJHL. He potted twenty seven goals and thirty five assists in fifty games last year with Gatineau.

"McGinn is a guy we think can come in and play right away in the American League," said Holmgren following their selection. "He's an older guy, and we think we did good."

 

Go Sharks.

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Good for Nabby

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by 49er16 on Jun 26, 2010 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed.

I really think Philly is one of th (very) few best non-Shark options. Plus it gives his kids a great opportunity to grow up around choice spots in American history. Kinda cool, when you consider the fact that when Nabby and I were there age, our countries had missiles pointing at one and other.

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by Noctro on Jun 27, 2010 12:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

*Slaps forehead*

I meant “their age.” Damned iPhone auto-correct.

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by Noctro on Jun 27, 2010 7:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Trade Nabby for McGinn.

Just because brothers playing together = awwwwww.

I would make the best GM.

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Nabby: Poop yourself.

by treegan on Jun 26, 2010 6:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Well...

Wilson DID draft Ferreiro’s brother today. And I’m sure you wouldn’t have given Wallin $2.5 million a year.

by Timorous Me on Jun 26, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

But DW had dropped Julien Demurs.

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by Soloact on Jun 27, 2010 3:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

Um, Julien Demers and Jason Demers are NOT related. Just take a moment and look up their pictures.

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by mymclife on Jun 27, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never. You would never get that kind of return for rights. The best you can hope for is a draft pick especially since the flyers only get a 3 day window.

"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10

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by Krishna on Jun 26, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of a weak return considering the condition is that Nabby actually SIGNS with them. Philadelphia has nothing to lose. Great deal for them.

I didn’t think trading Nabby’s rights was disrespectful, but this seems like were almost guilting Nabby into signing with the Flyers.

I also really hoped he’d sign with Tampa Baby, he seems like a better fit for that team and i can’t imagine seeing Nabby wearing orange playing behind Pronger…that’s just weird.

by Khaaz on Jun 26, 2010 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

The mental image is so wrong

But at least fans without Center Ice would be able to watch Nabby in a lot of games, considering it’s the Flyers.

by Timorous Me on Jun 26, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want Nabby to go to Philly. At least he’ll have a chance to win there, and play with a team that can actually stop teams from scoring with guys like Pronger, Carle, Timmonen.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 27, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

So what does everyone think

of Doug Wilson comparing Wallin—in terms of type of player, age, and contract—to these other players, according to the Merc:

“You take a look at recent years, you see the Hal Gills, the Brent Sopels, the Cory Sariches, the Rob Scuderis,” Wilson said, comparing Wallin with other veteran blueliners earning comparable money or more. “There’s not many of those players that become available.”

by Timorous Me on Jun 26, 2010 7:34 PM PDT reply actions  

that still doesn’t justify the payment to me, I feel Doug didn’t really try negotiating that hard.

by pooponastick on Jun 26, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess the prospect of having to reach into the Worcester well for a d-man must’ve really scared DW (although I’m on board with Mike Moore getting a shot) so I can kinda understand the semi-panic move in case the Sharks weren’t able to land a premium or even roster-ready UFA d-man… but where 2.5M came from…

I wonder how much he’ll offer Manny now…

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by DownRUpLYB on Jun 26, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think DW overvalued his Cup experience

Because I completely agree that 2.5 mil is way too much for not really playing a season with us. The injury should be a non-issue, if not a reason to offer less. But to raise his cap by that much! Especially when Nichol only got a 100 grand raise, which i think he should’ve gotten more. Right now the most plausible expination is that he’s not really going anywhere with UFA D-men. This could be an indication of a disappointing (as far as defense goes) offseason.

by FinAdic on Jun 26, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would not consider wallin as a rob scuderi type…

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by ohmymarleau on Jun 26, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same mold, lower ability

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by Evilducks on Jun 26, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scuderi is making $3.4 million through 2013, which is certainly an overpayment, but he’s only 31 and I think it’s been pretty clearly demonstrated that he is more reliable and more mobile in his own end than Wallin.

And to try to justify this contract by citing other examples of overpayment? Faulty logic. And we are now in a seriously bad situation with our defense, especially if nothing is coming with a Huskins trade.

by Timorous Me on Jun 26, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol. wasn’t Huskins supposed to be our Rob Scuderi? If DW wanted Scuderi so bad, the real Rob Scuderi was a UFA last summer.

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by Will Bulldozer on Jun 26, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never heard that.

It might have been said though, where’d you hear it?

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 26, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year when Huskins was first signed and we were all freaking out about his $1.7M cap hit (“No no, that can’t be right – it MUST be over two seasons, not for two seasons!”). DW talked about how Huskins was a “hockey rat” and compared him to Scuderi in virtually every interview.

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by mymclife on Jun 26, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Then I’m dumb. I remember the term “hockey rat”, but not the comparisons to Scuds.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 26, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

that in no way explains why he’s getting such a huge raise at the age of 35 when he didn’t have a good seasons for us.

So is 2.5 million his confirmed cap hit??

by Khaaz on Jun 26, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well he spent most of his season with us injured. Do I like the fact that it was 2.5 million dollar signing? No. But Im not gonna go out and call for DW’s head yet.

"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10

Dont boo your team!

by Krishna on Jun 26, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Him being injured should be a reason to pay him less, rather than an excuse to pay him more. At 35+ injuries start becoming more frequent.

by Khaaz on Jun 26, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im not saying I agree with the 2.5 million. But most people are going batshit crazy ZOMG DOUG WILSON SUX At least thats the interpretation im getting. All I was saying was Im not ready to hop on that bandwagon yet. Offseasons still young.

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Dont boo your team!

by Krishna on Jun 26, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

My frustration here is just that we know—after the results of last season—that we need to be better on defense. Subtracting Blake and putting Wallin on the 2nd pairing is not going to do that. And by giving Wallin a contract at all (not to mention one for $2.5 million), you’re hampering the team’s ability to dig into a fairly deep free agent market for defensemen and actually improve the team.

The only hope now is to free up several million by trading Huskins and Clowe/Setoguchi/Mitchell and maybe not re-signing Malhotra. And I’d rather not lose more depth up front, not if we don’t have to.

by Timorous Me on Jun 26, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

My take: yeah, it’s not good, but it’s only for one year. It’s not like we’re paying him $6.5M/year for 6 years like a certain other 3/4 defenseman.

Remember, whenever you bitch about a contract, just remind yourself of the New York Rangers and be thankful you don’t have Glen Sather giving out contracts.

"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
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Fools and Sages

by mymclife on Jun 26, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's too early to call for DW's head,

 but I wouldn’t mind asking him whether he even negotiated this price. Sounds like Wallin high-balled him and DW, to Wallin’s surprise, agreed without a counteroffer… On the bright side, Wallin will make about a third of what Marleau will next year, which means we can expect about a third of Marleau’s production from him, which means he should tally about 15 goals. I’ll take that from a defenseman for 2.5 million.

by Ike Wa the L Hater on Jun 26, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not trying to defend Wilson on this but

maybe he’s thinking Wallin will be better if he has a full season w the sharks before the po’s this time. That’s the only thing I can come up with.

by Haie on Jun 26, 2010 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

With Wallin back

we might have to get rid of Murray to compensate :-/

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Jun 27, 2010 12:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you INSANE?!?!!?

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by Noctro on Jun 27, 2010 7:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

For having been a HOF caliber defenseman in his playing career, Doug Wilson sure likes to acquire mediocre defensemen and overpay for them via trade and FA.

by Hobbes2d on Jun 27, 2010 12:35 AM PDT reply actions  

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