San Jose tenders Qualifying Offers to Setoguchi, Joslin, and Zalewski
by Mr. Plank on Jun 28, 2010 10:20 PM PDT
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PrintThe San Jose Sharks tendered qualifying offers to three notable restricted free agents today, ensuring that the organization will have the rights of Devin Setoguchi, Derek Joslin, and Steven Zalewski heading into free agency, which is set to begin on July 1st.
If either of these players rejects San Jose's initial offer and signs a contract with another team, San Jose will have an opportunity to match that contract, including all of its provisions (bonuses, no trade clauses et cetera) in order to retain their services.
If San Jose does not elect to match the contract, they would receive compensation in the form of draft picks for these players services. Based on the salary cap increase, here are the estimated numbers that Derek Zona of Copper and Blue expects to see at each level:
The teams listed under the N/A category currently do not have the necessary draft picks in order to extend an offer sheet at that level. Under the CBA's rules, a team who extends an offer sheet to an unrestricted free agent must have their own draft pick available at the relevant round required to compensate the player's initial team.
For example, the Minnesota Wild traded their 2011 second round draft pick with a pair of other players to the Boston Bruins in exchange for Chuck Kobasew. Unless they are able to engineer a trade with Boston in order to re-obtain that draft pick, they would be unable to extend offer sheets in the $1.55MM-$3.11MM and $4.67-$7.79MM range.
San Jose currently has their own draft picks in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft's first three rounds, and would be able to extend an offer sheet to any restricted free agent in this year's class.
Daniel Rahimi, Matt Jones, and Michael Vernace were not extended qualifying offers today, making them unrestricted free agents on July 1st. Rahimi was acquired from Vancouver last summer in a deal that saw Christian Ehrhoff and Brad Lukowich moved for salary cap purposes, leaving Patrick White the lone fruit remaining from that deal.
In other Sharks news, David Pollak of Working the Corners is reporting that Doug Wilson and upper management are still in contract negotiations with Manny Malhotra. Malhotra was a great addition to San Jose last season, providing big minutes on the penalty kill, succeeding at a phenomenal 62.5% in the faceoff circle, and chipping in 14 goals throughout the year. The two-way third line center has a booming slap shot that produces big rebounds, and would be an excellent addition to the team during 2011.
Whether or not he will be able to be re-signed is unknown at this point, with the Sharks having $8.965MM to fill out the roster. Nine forwards, six defenseman, and one goaltender are currently under contract at the NHL level.
Jay Leach has also been offered a contract to play with San Jose. It's a two-way offer, meaning that the Sharks would be able to move him between their minor league affiliate in Worcester and the big club depending on needs throughout the year. It's a strange move considering the signing of Niclas Wallin this weekend, as Leach is nothing but another bottom pairing defenseman whose age makes development all but an unachievable event at this point of his career. Bringing in a younger defenseman, such as Mike Moore, in the event a call up is required seems like a better use of resources for the organization considering Leach would be taking away a younger defenseman's playing time in Worcester.
Masterton nominee Jed Ortmeyer was told he would not be extended a contract this offseason.
Go Sharks.
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Who was the other guy besides Rahimi? White?
Whatever happened to him?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
9 G, 8 A at The U last season in 39 GP. Not a very good season for him.
If the Sharks don’t sign him to a pro contract when he leaves college, they will be awarded a second round compensatory draft pick. At this juncture, it seems like this is the situation that will occur.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
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Funny—I was wondering what he was up to earlier tonight, looked him up on Wikipedia, and I believe this 9G, 8A season was labeled a “career year.”
I’ll take that 2nd round pick, thank you very much.
by Timorous Me on Jun 28, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It still makes me laugh when anyone refers to the University of Minnesota as “The U.” Careful, Plank, your MN is showing!
By the way, my mom works there now, and she calls it the same thing.
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I'd really be surprised if someone doesn't take at least a stab at Joslin.
I honestly think he should be in the top 6 D next year.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 28, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions
I’ve never seen anything special in him, but he’s earned a chance for a real call-up. I would think we match any offer on him until we at least get a pick in return.
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If he didn't fit the San Jose roster....
He could easily contribute elsewhere. He’s big and can skate. His IQ is questionable, but that can be taught.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree.
IQ is exactly what must come from the start…skating can be taught and learned…if your IQ is as low as Clowe’s…you won’t get very far, and yes, he is inconsistent as expected, so I disagree…IQ cannot be taught!
Go Sharks!
Does the fact that Clowe
Was the top point producer on the sharks (one of the top offensive teams) second line prove how far one can go with an IQ like Clowe’s?
by jMoneyBrah on Jun 29, 2010 1:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Pavelski played 15 fewer games that Clowe.
I agree with Dmitriy – IQ cannot be taught. Clowe is the slowest forward on the top two lines (maybe the slowest forward on the team?). His puck handling skills are not the greatest. At times he takes dumb (and poorly timed) penalties (131 PIM which was 21 minutes more than Staubitz and 59 minutes more than Nichol (who was second highest on the team)). Yes, Clowe is always first to defend his linemates when opponents try pushing them around, so major kudos there.
Why didn’t Clowe (and Heatley, since he wasn’t mobile enough to do much more) park his big frame in front of opposing goalies during the playoffs? IQ problems? Or did McClellan fail to properly coach? (I haven’t seen much discussion about the coaching against Chicago)
There are faster, better puck handling, and smarter scorers than Clowe out there (and I don’t mean just the UFA’s and RFA’s. If DW traded Clowe and / or Seto and / or Mitchell for one, I would not be offended. The D was not to blame for the Chicago defeat – where was the O??
Firstly:
Speed and Stickhandling have nothing to do with IQ. The fact that Clowe has only 5 fewer assists than Heatly and Boyle and 1 fewer than Marleau says something about his hockey IQ and ability. And as a semi-enforcer type of course he is going to have higher PIMs.
Secondly:
if your IQ is as low as Clowe’s…you won’t get very far
Is probably the dumbest thing that I have heard in a while. I happen to believe that a top performer on the second line of a very quality team is pretty fuckin far. “If your IQ is as low as Clowe’s…you won’t get any farther than the second line on a NHL team. So don’t be dumb like Clowe” I am sure that would deter a lot of young prospects and players.
I don't particularly believe he is a great 2nd liner
He is streaky and not as smart of a player as Pavs for instance
Go Sharks!
The numbers disagree with you
streaky – thats possible. But he showed up in the playoffs. And streaky or not he puts up pretty good numbers. If he had a better start to the season he could have gotten 70-80 points last season.
Also comparing him to Pavs may not be fair as Pavs one strong characteristic is his smarts. He is not particularly fast, big, or strong. Not a great stick handler, and doesn’t own a booming shot. He is smart, has pretty good hands, is responsible defensively, and owns an accurate and quick wrister.
To use your logic Jumbo Joe is not as fast as Patty Marleau… for instance
If Clowe's streakyness is an issue for you
I wonder how you feel about Seto? Likely you want to keep him on the team (at least I hope you do) even though he was quite a bit more streaky than Clowe.
Sometimes I think: because Clowe is not a fast sexy skater he is doomed to be tragically undervalued by our fanbase. He is a tough, physical power forward. Clearly he isn’t Patrick Kane skating wise. But he fills a valuable role on the team. What other player in the top 9 forwards strikes any kind of fear in opposing teams – in terms of sticking up for their teammates and being ready to throw down. I remember Clowe being a beast for us in the playoffs, controlling play along to boards and making good decisions and passes in the offensive zone. As much as Pavs was scoring Clowe was holding the puck in opponents zone and making the D work as he ate up time and allowed the rest of his line to find open space. He slowed down the game.
Most Importantly
His value nowhere near matches his price tag…and Seto is worth it at a reasonable price…I hope he doesn’t get more than 3.2M…he is streaky and doesn’t show up every game, but he is younger, and it seems he has more potential
Go Sharks!
Also.
Pavelski has a GREAT shot…it’s like a bullet…it’s much better than Clowe’s and a lot more accurate. Also, Pavs is not big, but he is pretty fast and his stick handling is a lot better than Clowe’s often.
Clowe picks up a lot of dumb penalties in my opinion also, which doesn’t make his price tag any better…
Go Sharks!
Pavs is not fast. He has skating issues, but he makes up for it with his wicked shot, great positioning and high hockey IQ. I usually laugh when I’m watching the games and I see Pavs trying to jam up the ice.
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Yes, compare him to one of the players with the best hockey smarts on the team, that’s fair.
I don’t think he’s any less intelligent than Seto, or Michalek before him. I don’t think he’s any less intelligent than Pat Kane.
Streaky. If he wasn’t streaky he’d be a top liner putting up 80 points a season.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Uh, I think the guy was just makin a joke. Shhhhh…it’ll be ok. Its not like people in the NHL are brilliant squared or anything. You never see a hockey GM put together a cup winning team AND find the cure for medulla blastoma. The reality of it is, Clowe’s IQ is high enough for him to behave like Clowe, but not high enough for him to park his big ass in front of a goalie even though he wasn’t told to and doing so might help him and his team hoist the cup. No…Noooooooo… Clowe is Clowe because that’s who Clowe envisions Clowe to be in a very general sense of the construction of reality and self-concepts.
That has less to do with Clowe’s hockey IQ and more to do with the system he’s being coached in. Coach wants him digging pucks out along the boards and keeping the cycle going, that’s not going to happen with him in front of the net.
A bigger problem is that Clowe is the best person on that line of controlling the puck down low and so he can’t do that and screen the goalie simultaneously. When the shot is missed he peels off to go get it otherwise it’s going the other way. Just a reality.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Why Evil?!?!?
Must you bring stuff like sense and reality into why Clowe’s IQ equals that of a…well…evil duck?
I cope with the offseason in a different way than others. I burn out my emotions and rely on cold, unforgiving logic (that only makes sense to me).
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Cold, unforgiving logic is the only way to cope with the offseason!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
wow that was the smartest thing i heard all day
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Joslin’s only mistakes looked like he was anxious to make an impression ASAP, so he wouldn’t get sent down. He was trying too hard to produce. He moves the puck up ice quickly and smoothly. Not the most physical defenseman, but positionally sound. I think with the knowledge of staying on the big team, he could settle down and be a decent addition to the D core.
And if the Sharks don’t want to take that chance, it’d be foolish to think that teams with weak D’s wouldn’t sniff around.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I happen to be in the same boat as Ghost
In the few games that he played he seemed anxious. I was actually looking forward to him challenging for a spot on the roster. At this point he would seem to be odd man out. I am betting that DW has something up his sleeve.
Production aside, I’m pretty bummed we won’t see Ortmeyer in teal next year. I’m a big fan of character players, and Ortmeyer’s got a ton of it. I like the vibe they bring to the locker room.
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by OtherKid on Jun 28, 2010 11:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I’ll definitely miss Ortmeyer, but I’m not upset really about his departure. This is the kind of move the Sharks should be making with Leach—letting him go in order to give a young guy a chance.
I really thought (hoped) the scenario might be that the Sharks wouldn’t bring Wallin back, would insert a young guy (Moore or Joslin) into the 6th/7th spot, and maybe keep Leach as veteran insurance. But now? Unless one of the defensemen are dropped? Don’t really get it.
by Timorous Me on Jun 28, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Why Joslin no? The kid consistantly puts up points in the AHL, has won the hardest shot competition down there, has a big frame and is a leader on his team.
Continually sharks fans prove they don’t understand how the development process works.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Continually sharks fans prove they don’t understand how the development process works.
And thus the Bust nickname was born…
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JOSLIN DIDN'T SCORE 500 GOALS IN HIS DEBUT
Bust.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 29, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Rofl
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m still torn up about this Wallin contract, but that’s a different story. I think this roster needs Seto on it, and he’s an important part to this team and the scoring lines. With Wallin under contract now, then only thing I can think of is a trade that maybe sends Huskins and Clowe somewhere for that D-Man that we so need. We will see, but keeping Seto is a must to me.
Madano was given his walking papers from Dallas
Is it wrong to kinda hope he’s this years retiree signed by DW?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
That would save us from him scoring a bunch of goals against us
And how awesome would it be to have Modano mentor guys like McGinn and Couture?
He’d have to be cheap though. Plus we’d get to see Willa Ford!
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Honestly
I’d probably take Modano over Cheechoo
/heads for cover
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Agreed. But mostly because he could center a 3rd line and be a mentor to the young kids.
I don’t particularly want either of them, though.
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Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, in a heart beat I’d take Modano over Cheechoo.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Haha that would be a crazy line
We could call it the “Something to prove line”, or something lol.
Man if we could get Cheechoo for 500k, Modano at 1.5 mill or less, and Couture at his current 1.2 million. That would easily be the highest scoring line in the NHL for the pricetag of around 3 mill.
I guess the question is:
Modano (right now) > Malholtra?
faceoff percentage doesn’t match. But if Modano has some gas left in the tank he is a bigger threat to setup a play or score IMO.
Here is what that lineup looks like in my mind
2010-11 SAN JOSE SHARKS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Dany Heatley ($7.500m) / Joe Thornton ($7.200m) / Patrick Marleau ($6.900m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Devin Setoguchi ($3.250m)
Logan Couture ($1.242m) / Mike Modano ($1.500m) / Jonathan Cheechoo ($0.750m)
Torrey Mitchell ($1.367m) / Scott Nichol ($0.760m) / Jamie McGinn ($0.997m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.543m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / Douglas Murray ($2.500m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / Niclas Wallin ($2.500m)
Kent Huskins ($1.700m) / Jason Demers ($0.543m)
Derek Joslin ($0.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Antero Nittymaki ($1.500m) / Thomas Greiss ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 22; CAP:$59.4m; PAYROLL: $59.443m; CAP ROOM: $0.672m BONUSES: $0.715m
That really is 3 legit scoring lines.
And a 4th line that can just fly around the ice – a bit on the small side though.
And everytime I see Wallin at 2.5 and on the 2nd pairing it makes me cry a little inside.
I can’t fathom how people see Cheechoo on a line and consider it a “legit scoring line”
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I think we are banking on him bouncing back a little
it may be wishful thinking – but that is where that comment comes from
I think it is based on performance over the last 4 years.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
To clarify
I believe it is impossible for Cheech to reach a 20 goal season without 2nd line minutes with quality linemates.
He’s never going to get that and so will never be a 20 goal scorer again.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Well he’d be playing with quality linemates and getting 3rd line minutes in this cheech/modano/couture scenario. I think he could score 20 goals in that scenario.
From the bits i’ve seen of him, he’s still got the scoring touch. He doesn’t have the speed to make shit happen on his own but playing alongside Modano and Couture he could put a lot of pucks in the back of the net imo.
I don’t see any 3rd liners scoring 20 goals. They just won’t get enough ice time…and Cheechoo wouldn’t sniff the power play (or at least he better not).
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
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Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's just assume that he starts potting a few goals
would he then qualify in your mind for some PP time? If his greatest strength is his shot wouldn’t that get him at least a look on the PP
Thats a big assumption
Are we also assuming that he’s learned how to skate and no longer suffers a poor self esteem and is as healthy as he was before the double hernia surgery?
I’m just joking around, but really, that is a massive assumption considering the last 3 years or so.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Oh the offseason.
Can the season just start so we can talk about real shit happening :P
All valid points. I actually gotta get back to work – this is so intriguing I am not getting shit done :D
Interesting
While on paper a top line of Heatley – Thornton – Marleau looks unstoppable, there were more times than not (so it seemed) they were effectively shut down with the second and third lines unable to pick up their games (until Pavs did in part of the playoffs).
Clowe (if he’s still here) – Pavs – and Seto (if he’s still here) will really need to step up because opposing #1 defensive pairings will be working SJ’s #1 line.
It seemed when Marleau was winger with Pavs (Couture or Seto on the top line), both lines did well because opposing defenses struggled to keep up.
Any thoughts why Clowe didn’t park himself in front of Niemi as a screen? And if Heatley was hurt, why didn’t he, too, park himself in front of Niemi too? Was it the players making that decision or McClellan?
Personally, I think, sadly, Cheechoo’s career is over. It’s not the money, it’s that he never recovered from his double sports hernia.
This might actually make me forgive DW for resigning Wallin...
Although I see this as a tad bit more realistic and possibly better
FORWARDS
Dany Heatley ($7.500m) / Joe Thornton ($7.200m) / Patrick Marleau ($6.900m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Logan Couture ($1.242m)
Torrey Mitchell ($1.367m) / Mike Modano ($1.500m) / Jonathan Cheechoo ($0.750m)
Scott Nichol ($0.760m) / Manny Malhotra (1.200m) / Jamie McGinn ($0.997m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.543m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / Douglas Murray ($2.500m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / Niclas Wallin ($2.500m)
Kent Huskins ($1.700m) / Jason Demers ($0.543m)
Derek Joslin ($0.750m)
GOALTENDERS
Dan Ellis ($3.000m) / Thomas Greiss ($0.550m)
I’d rather have Malhotra and Ferriero in the lineup than Modano and Cheechoo…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
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Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Ferriero hasnt proven much, at best he might be compared to McGinn. Modano would fit perfectly, and would add a lot of veteran leadership with our WOR kids developing through the season. As far as Cheech goes, I’d just love to see him in teal again.. but I honestly think he can give us something, especially for his value
Ferriero destroyed the AHL this season (50 points in 58 games is nothing to sneeze at)…and hasn’t gotten much of a chance in the NHL. No way you can hold that against him. He needs to come up at some point, and this would be a good year to do it. And if we’re comparing him to McGinn, I want him up even more!
Cheechoo is done in this league. If he proves me wrong, great, but I do not want the Sharks paying him to give it a shot. He’s far too slow, and his confidence is shot. Let him find his game again in Atlanta or something.
Modano was a great player. WAS. Malhotra brings so much to the table that Modano just can’t anymore…the best of which is his faceoff prowess and his PK studliness. I’d rather have that centering the third line than Modano. Also, I really don’t see Modano taking that big a pay cut to come over here.
There’s not room on this team for Malhotra and Modano. Both need to be on the 3rd line at least to be effective…and I like Malhotra infinately better in that role.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
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Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, now your talking numbers and I have to agree with you that we probably can’t fit both and that I would take Malhotra over Modano, but I wouldn’t be appalled if Modano ended up on our team in the end (depending on contract).
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Well, yeah, if Malhotra gets big money somewhere else and moves on, I would have no problem with Modano on this team. I just don’t want the team deciding to pass on Malhotra (for potentially 2-3 years) to get Modano for a year.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
For me personally, wanting to sign Modano is based on the assumption that Malhotra wants 2 mill+. Modano and Malhotra are both fairly equal in my mind, so i’d take whichever comes cheaper. If they both cost the same, i suppose you gotta pick Malhotra, mostly cuz of how good he is on the PK and the fact that Modano would probably play for only another year or two at the most.
If Modano can be gotten for 1 million though…sign me up.
I’d take Modano at 1.5 million or under in a second. He probably cares more about playing and winning than he does about money so he could probably be signed for cheap. He’s a freaking steal at a 1 million or so cap hit. He’s a good player all around.
I can understand not wanting Cheechoo though. I personally would love to see him again and i think he could make a comeback, especially playing alongside Modano and Couture.
Modano has been paid 2.25 over the last two years
Probably could get him at the 1.5-1.7 range with a real hard sales pitch.
I think he brings a huge amount of leadership, I have always liked the guy as a player. And I do think that Cheech could totally have a bounce back season along side Modano and Couture.
He’s been getting paid 3.45 million for the last 5 years, but he signed that contract not long after he was a still a 30 goal 80 point scorer.
I think he just wants to play hockey, and have a chance at another cup before he retires. He’s got plenty of money as it is so signing him at 1.5 million could be doable.
I’d like to have Malhotra and Modano, but Ferriero would be 3rd on the list.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I just don’t see how you fit two third line centers onto the team…unless you see Modano taking Nichol’s spot on the checking line…which I can’t see; or you see Malhotra on the wing, which would be silly given his faceoff prowess.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
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Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
that lineup looks pretty good
i’m sure cheechoo would love to come back and he does check and play hard
im guessing malholtra really isnt coming back
and seeing anteri nittymaki isnt exactly comforting…but neither is wallin. im sure we could make it work
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Why are you assuming Malhotra isn’t coming back? Seems far too early to make that determination.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Have you read the rest of his posts? I’m fairly certain he lives in an alternate dimension where Malhotra was let go and Kane and Toews made 7.5M each last year.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Haha, fair point. I just got caught up to what everyone was saying while I was out golfing. People are going effing crazy round these parts. Although the goaltending issue is starting to concern me, I will admit that.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe one of the teams listed will sign Seto to a $5M+ salary
That’d be pretty cool compensation. Too bad Burke wouldn’t spend $8M on him….
How cool? Think Steve Nash...
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Yeah - I think its been pretty well established that Seto is likely to sign for well under 5M
After last season I don’t think many teams are going to risk that kind of compensation on Seto. Likely he falls in the $3.2M area.
Does DW see more seasons like 08-09 ahead for Seto (IMO radically different from 09-10)? If so, DW will sign him. If not, he may well be trade bait.
It is telling, though, that Pavs got a 4 year contract and Seto only got a QO. Hmmm.
I wonder if Seto got the minimum required QO or a real offer like Pavelski’s, and I wonder how much it was for.
According to David Pollak
He got the minimum required QO, along with everybody else that got QO’s.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Hmm, wouldn’t you think it would be smarter to make the QO a somewhat realistic low ball offer like 2.7 – 3 million? I don’t want to lose Seto, assuming he can be signed for under 3.5.
Nope
It’s completely a formality to satisfy the league. Contract negotiations are ongoing and this has no bearing on them other than Seto having to say no, he’s not accepting that offer. Happens to RFA’s all the time.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Nope
Pavs finished negotiating before the QO’s were required. He recieved a standard contract offer.
Seto is still negotiating his actual contract and recieved a QO so he wouldn’t become a UFA.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Its not really telling at all...
There are many reasons why some contracts will get done sooner than others. Most RFAs around the league haven’t been signed. Pavelski is actually the unusual case, here. I wouldn’t read anything into it.
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Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
IMO DW made a statement by getting Pavs to sign before July 1 – unusual or not, it happened. If DW was as interested in keeping Seto as he was in keeping Pavs, a contract would be signed before July 1. The team’s interest in and commitment to Seto seems less than its interest / commitment to Pavs.
The team’s interest in and commitment to Seto seems less than its interest / commitment to Pavs.
As well it should be.
Also, Pavs signed a deal that’s below his market value. Seto may not be willing to. We have literally no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. This is typical for RFAs…don’t read anything into it.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
That is reading a lot into it. It just means it’s taking longer for them to come to terms with Seto than it did with others.
We literally have 0 idea of what is being said between parties. Considering many many RFA’s make it past the July 1st start, it’s not even out of the ordinary. To somehow infer that this means that there is some lack of commitment to a player is beyond leaping to conclusions. It’s just angry speculation.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Angry speculation??
Hardly. I’m not angry at all. And I’m not even leaping. I admit, I am naive to the RFA process, but if Seto has only a QO from from SJ then isn’t the ability for DW to sign Seto after today contingent DW’s willingness to match another team’s offer? I understand this process sets market value for the RFA. I also understand Seto isn’t Pavs. But with the precedent DW set with Pavs, it just seems odd to me if Seto is viewed as equally integral to the Sharks’ plans as Pavs, he and DW would have worked something out – unless, of course, Seto’s contract demands exceed DW’s expectations / budget.
There is no precident set with Pavs…it was a unique case.
And no, offer sheets only come into play on RFAs if another team submits one AND SETO DECIDES TO SIGN IT. DW can still negotiate his own contract with Seto up until some time in December I believe. And being as, I think I read somewhere, 5 offer sheets ever signed by RFAs since the system went into effect after the lockout, I’d say it’s a slim possibility that anyone even bothers. The QO is just a tool to make sure we get compensated if someone goes all Edmondton and offers Seto 5 mil or something retarded, and/or to make sure we can match if an offer sheet is signed. That’s it. There’s nothing more to read into it than the Sharks want to keep negotiating with him.
The Caps, for instance, submitted 9 QOs on Monday…including to players like Schultz (who I think led the NHL in +/- last year), Fehr (a very good, young 2/3 line wing), and Fleischmann (who scored like 30 goals last season). Does this mean they don’t want to sign them? Is anyone at all worried? No! This is how the RFA process goes. Don’t read anything into it. At all.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
My bad
Not angry speculation, it’s uniformed conclusions assuming the absolute worst of the management staff.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
The only thing a QO does in the process is allow the team to maintain restricted status on the player
It does not prevent any further negotiation with the player. This allows the team to match any other contracts signed by the RFA with another team or get compensation from that team if they don’t.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Just so you know...
My comments were not “angry speculation”, “uniformed conclusions”, and “assuming the absolute worst”. I find this situation quite interesting and was looking for others to comment.
It is telling, though, that Pavs got a 4 year contract and Seto only got a QO. Hmmm.
If DW was as interested in keeping Seto as he was in keeping Pavs, a contract would be signed before July 1. The team’s interest in and commitment to Seto seems less than its interest / commitment to Pavs.
if Seto has only a QO from from SJ then isn’t the ability for DW to sign Seto after today contingent DW’s willingness to match another team’s offer? I understand this process sets market value for the RFA. I also understand Seto isn’t Pavs. But with the precedent DW set with Pavs, it just seems odd to me if Seto is viewed as equally integral to the Sharks’ plans as Pavs, he and DW would have worked something out – unless, of course, Seto’s contract demands exceed DW’s expectations / budget.
You are making judgements that reflect poorly on management based on lack of information about the subject.
Your conclusion is that because Pavelski has signed and Setoguchi hasn’t then Seto is out of the budget range and won’t be signed. That makes no sense and is just assuming the worst based on very little evidence, and evidence that has been misinterpreted based on false pretext.
You want others to comment, I did.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Haha, I gave up on this hours ago…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade Clowe, Seto, and Husky
and get Sharp and Martin imo
Why would you trade Seto for Sharp? And Martin is going UFA in 2 days.
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Dont boo your team!
No im completely ignorant. Yes I have. But Seto is younger and has a much higher upside than Sharp and Chicago is not looking to take on more contracts.
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Dont boo your team!
i think setoguchi has more upside than heatley, i dont think heatley really fits into this system well he’s 6-5 and barely checks and doesnt seem apt to controlling the puck as much as he is prone to skate around the net and wait for a feed
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Also Seto is young Heatley is in the prime of his career so yes Seto does have more upside but Heatley isnt leaving.
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Dont boo your team!
yeah too bad…i hope ater next year if he doesnt work out we can get a huge return for him. he did waive his no trade clause
i like the look of the top line with setoguchi on it and heatley on the second or something…dammit i dunno. i dont know what the hell i would do with him if i was dw than trade him
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Heatley-Thornton-Seto
Marleau-Pavs-Couture/Clowe. Preferable Couture.
Why do you want to trade Heatley right now?
"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10
Dont boo your team!
heatley is a left handed shot
its kind of awkward watching him play left wing
if he shows up huge in the offseason i guess its all good
but being the highest paid player on the team,,,,i dunno about that
i would like to move his contract because it would free up room to load up the defense and the lower lines like the blackhawks did
every team that has won the stanley cup has been loaded top to bottom
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This has been said before but apparently not understood. The Blackhawks were stacked because players like Kane and Toews were not making as much as they should be given the fact they only recently just came into the league. Heatley is a threat to score whenever hes on the ice and thats extremely beneficial to the Sharks and there is no good reason to move him.
"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10
Dont boo your team!
Cut him some slack
His groin was torn. TORN!
Even though he was hobbled, he managed to contribute offensively – he had a lot of near-goals, plus chances & goals were generated off his shots. Defensively is another thing, but yeah, see above. If he were 100%, this would likely be not even be an issue.
NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Dan Ellis
by the way toews and kane made 7.5 mil last year
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Those cap hits dont kick in until this upcoming season.
"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10
Dont boo your team!
i thought they were signed to 7.5 mil UFA contracts because they missed the rfa deadline
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank You
For proving my point I was too lazy to go look for a link.
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Dont boo your team!
hmm i guess you were right
i thought i read a story about dave tallon getting in a whole heap of shit because he had to dish out huge contracts to keep them
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Most left-handed shots are Left Wings….the only righty Left Winger I can think of is Ovechkin.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 29, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Luc Robitaille is a lefty. Bobby Hull.
Go lefty’s! I actually think it’s a little more rare to see a RW with a left-handed shot. Jagr and the Rocket come to mind.
Patty Marleau: An Erotic Life in San Jose... to be continued?
by Will Bulldozer on Jun 30, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Heater completely adjusted to the Sharks’ offensive system during his first season in teal. Watching enough games, Heater developed a pattern where he would often try to stick handle through the offensive blue line and would either put his teammates offsides or lose the puck to the defender. Surprisingly, for such a big guy, Heater isn’t terribly strong on his skates. Nor is he the fleetest of foot. His strongest assets are his ability to find the open ice and get a shot off quickly.
If Seto is re-signed, i’d like to see Marleau moves down to the 2nd line and Seto moving up to the 1st line. Seto did some good work in the playoffs screening goalies, and neither Heater or Patty did a particular good job of that.
Patty Marleau: An Erotic Life in San Jose... to be continued?
by Will Bulldozer on Jun 30, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s a pretty good point. My roommate and I were talking about Heatley, and we both wondered why Heatley would EVER be the one bringing the puck into the zone. He should be heading in on the rush, going to the net to cause traffic, and then finding open ice once the cycle is set up or the puck is low.
They’ll get it figured out. I expect big things from Heater this season…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Cheechoo has officially been bought out
So feel free to continue speculation of how we can fit a goal scorer that can’t score onto our bottom lines where he won’t contribute. :)
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
assuming you’re referring to the two-way contract deal.
It’s a common misconception that I made a lot until it was explained to me.
All a two-way contract does is allow you to pay a player less to play in the AHL than you do when they play in the NHL. All of the waiver rules apply independent of contract status. This is based on their age and the number of games played in the NHL. Cheechoo has far exceeded both requirements to expose him to waivers and even more importantly re-entry waivers.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
No, that is not true. Regular waiver eligibility is dependent on age and number of games played. Re-entry waiver eligibility is based on how much money someone makes in the AHL. To be eligible for re-entry waivers you first have to have been eligible for regular waivers when you were sent down and then also have to be making more than $105k in the AHL.
Another random update: Karlsson
They’re now reporting he signed a 1-way deal and will be Kipper’s back-up in Calgary for the upcoming season. I haven’t researched the details to determine whether this is legit., but based on the above info all I can think is “Not again!”
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jun 29, 2010 2:31 PM PDT reply actions
Damn flames - can they develop their own goalie for once
It’s all good. Considering Sutter’s moves over the last few years I fully expect this to blow up in his face. Probably he will trade Kipper and Iggy for a 3rd and a leather sofa.
How nice of a leather sofa???
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair
We didn’t develop Karlsson at all. We signed him when he already had a gig and never played for any of our affiliates.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
As much as this deal makes me cringe
For all DW knew, Karlsson was KHL bound, probably because he knew that we were looking for a number 1 (He isnt a number 1 yet) and we already have a pretty decent back up. We also have a pretty decent starter in the AHL, and he probably doesnt want to play back up in the minors.
It’s a good deal for him, I hope he gets some playing time which I think is probably all he was after. If anything DW probably said this in between avoiding making contact with Plank and TCY at the draft:
“Let me give you a shot at playing in the NHL. Calgary needs a back up, and I hate Russia.”
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
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If you thought the Sharks were going to roll Griess/Karlsson then this is a bad deal, however the guy clearly wants to play in the NHL or nothing. I personally don’t think Griess/Karlsson is any better then Griess/Stalock we need a veteran guy.
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
So, Nashville just kicked Dan Ellis’s UFA rights over to Montreal as part of a trade. I really hope he doesn’t sign there, I have hopes of seeing him in teal, still.
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Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think he will.
I can’t see him starting with Price there. I’m not trying to say Price is or isn’t better, I just assumed when they traded Halak that Price would be their guy and they would try and find an experienced backup a la Biron.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 29, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s already tweeted that he wants to wait until UFA time
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I’m just tired of Montreal stealing/keeping all of the goalie options I like for the Sharks.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 29, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Montreal probably reads FTF. Grrrrrrrrrr
Here's my twitter losers
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So far trading for rights has not really worked out for anyone so I’m not concerned yet.
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Ellis' Twitter just said
Very excited about the trade! Its an honor to be part of a team with such great tradition and passion! Hope we can figure something out!
Mike Babcock's wife thinks Joe Pavelski's a STUD!! Enough said.
Eh he is just saying what he has to…
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Your theories intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
He only has to hold out about 32 hours before DW can call him and save him from the horror that is playing in Montreal.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Exactly. At this point I really doubt he would sign on with Montreal without at least seeing what his market value is, and which teams would actually give him the #1 spot.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It amuses me that they Trade Halak but have so much faith in Price they want Ellis.
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
Yea its kind of crazy. The Halak trade was probably more about him wanting a fat chunk of money, than having faith in Price though.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I agree there was a cost issue there with the possibility that he could jump the the KHL but if you end up paying the same between Price and Ellis I would probably stick with the guy that almost single handedly won 2 rounds.
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
I would too. Montreal rarely does the logical thing though.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
seeing as how halak played in the playoffs i wish we couldve given up a pick or two for him
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point
I don’t see why any UFA signs now with so little time left till July 1. I think the real benefit of this trade was that Montreal got to ship off the Lesser Kostitsyn.
Unless Ellis fancies himself stealing the job away from Price a la Halak (definitely possible, but it really appears to be Price’s job to lose), I’m not really sure how this is that different from the situation in Nashville behind Rinne.
NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Dan Ellis
Good point about Kostitsyn.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Shitty. Hope he doesn’t sign. Can’t see him really wanting to though, he won’t be the #1
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOT ELLIS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions
IM MELTING
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions
FUUUCK i REALLY hope he doesn’t sign. I don’t think he will, i get the feeling he wants to play for the Sharks; or maybe i’m just telling myself that to keep my sanity this offseason. Hopefully DW wants him to play for the Sharks as well, for cheap.
Nope
Looks like he wants to figure something out with Montreal
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
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He'll have to Tweet in French now!
Tabarnac!
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
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We might have to…the goalie class is getting rather small.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I get the erie feeling we'll be seeing Turco in teal next year.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
The worst part of the Free Agent Goalie Field this year
Is when the best available guy is the one you opted not to re-sign.
Turco would have to be on a pretty short leash for us to have anything to do with him. Perhaps we can mark a zone on the ice, “The Turco Zone” and if he wanders outside of that zone, he has to comb Patty’s eyebrows before practice.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
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wash your mouth out with soap!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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"It's getting harder and harder to differentiate between schizophrenics and people talking on a cell phone. It still brings me up short to walk by somebody who appears to be talking to themselves." -- Bob Newhart
I really hope not.
Long term it may benefit the young goalie pipeline having him around, but it would mean basically giving up on this year.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Or Mason.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Do. Not. Want.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh i died.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
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by mssjsclowie29 on Jun 29, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still taunting him if it happens.
In fact, if we sign him, we can taunt him every game.
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"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
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That'd be kinda sick.
useless, but fun to look at for awhile.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Ellis’ Twitter feed, but I also remember how he played last season. I will not shed any tears if he doesn’t sign in San Jose.
Anyone care to remember who Pavelski scored his embarassing spinorama on?
The goal is the Cup, not Twitter entertainment.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
but who else is there better than Ellis who will come as cheap? Ugggh i’m really getting worried about our goaltending situation now.
I don’t think Ellis is any better than what we already have in Greiss.
Hell, bring back Boucher.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I thought the same thing but Ellis actually has one of the best even strength SV%‘s out of all the UFA goalies on the market. The only reason his overall SV% is so low is because the Predators have such a terrible penalty kill, which has also really hurt Pekke Rinne’s SV% as well.
However, he’s only played in 111 NHL games since he arrived into the league 7 years ago. That’s like 1.5 seasons for Nabby.
He’s never played more than 44 games in one season.
But hey – he does have a cool Twitter feed.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
lol wtf
111 NHL games is pretty good…that’s like 6 times as many games as Stalock and Greiss have played COMBINED! lols
Good luck finding another goaltender with a .924 even strength SV% who has NHL experience and will come cheap as cheap as Ellis would.
I don’t even use twitter.
We don’t want a goalie to play more than 50 games a season anyways. We need someone, though, who will play those 50 games well enough that we still maintain our high Western Conference ranking. Ellis can do that. Ellis/Greiss gave me hope for the season.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
bring back boucher geez not a horrible idea
by withintheruins14 on Jun 29, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, bring back the waterboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_I2mzN_SA
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I agree with Ivan. After today, I officially say 'fuck it".
Throw Greiss and Stalock into the fire, spend the money on some better D. If they work out, then DW looks like a genius. If they don’t, then they’ll irk into the playoffs. But even then, they’ll have time before the trade deadline to make a move.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 4:32 PM PDT reply actions
Zbinek Michalek or Anton Volchenkov (who’ll probably command twice the salary of Zbinek, for pretty much the same skills) and it won’t matter who’s in goal.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
If we do role with the young guys, signing one of those D-men is a must.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jun 29, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I really liken Stalock I just would hate to see him ruined since I think he is going to be the guy some time soon.
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
Niemi didn’t get ruined in his first NHL season did he. Stalock is younger, but we never know until it actually happens.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
No chance DW doesn't bring in a vet of some kind.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I think Wallin and Boyle can play that role on defense. In fact, Wallin must with his nice big contract.
On offense, I wonder if DW will give Mike Modano a call.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I think he was just talking about goaltenders. DW won’t let Greiss and Stalock go at it. That doesn’t seem like his style. He’ll bring in a vet somehow.
I MISS YOU SO MUCH ARCHIE :(
YOU WERE SO MUCH MORE LIKABLE THAN NABBY
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It was Dynamo Riga.
R.I.P. :(
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Im way over Wallin.
When Crankshaft has softer hands than you, you should be done.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Stalock should be nowhere near San Jose this season…not if winning the Cup is the priority.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 30, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
GOD BLESS THE SQUIRREL
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 4:39 PM PDT reply actions
At this point, i’m just going to wait out the offseason, see what happens, and trust that DW knows what he is doing.
by In Bust we Trust on Jun 29, 2010 6:25 PM PDT reply actions
Not to break out the tinfoil hats, but a discounted Turco?
I heard it on ESPN today, saw it on other sources, like it could be the ‘new cool rumor’.
I don’t see it. And even with a super discounted Turco, I don’t see it being longer than a year. But yeah. The day I see Turco in teal I’ll poop myself on purpose.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
From pure hockey perspective, I’m more ok with Turco than any other option out there except Vokoun. But then I think about it and I feel the same way Real Madrid fans felt about Luis Figo when he moved there from Barcelona – I want to throw something at him.
The memories of 2008 are still too fresh.
What’s next? Perry to the Sharks?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Im totally cool with that as long as Perry to the Sharks means we get to lower him into the ocean and watch him get eaten by Sharks.
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Dont boo your team!
by Krishna on Jun 29, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh! given that requirement, I’m with you … :)
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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WHOO!
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That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
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lol wut
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Genius headline from NHL.com:
High-priced, star goalies don’t guarantee a Cup
So don’t get too excited…
Yes.
Again. Yes.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jun 29, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, even as one of Semi's biggest fan.
He’s a healthy scratch D. However, he was also a lot cheaper than Wallin. So I’d rather have Semi at his old cap hit than Wallin at his current cap hit.
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sorry if i totally missed this elsewhere but dp mentioned in his most recent post that he thinks we might’ve signed cam macintyre to a one way 2 year deal… would that be an improvement over jed? or is that bad?
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Seto for 3 mill
Joslin was a good choice. Malhotra-DEFINITELY. Brought so much to the team
Waiting for the cup in San Jose
I never forget a face, but in your case, I'd be glad to make an exception-Groucho Marx
by sanjosesharksfan on Jun 29, 2010 11:58 PM PDT reply actions
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