Wilson Eyes Trade Market as Day One of Free Agency comes to a close
by Mr. Plank on Jul 1, 2010 5:27 PM PDT
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With Antero Niittymaki being the lone acquisition on the first day of NHL free agency, General Manager Doug Wilson will likely turn towards the trade market in order to fill any outstanding holes he sees in his roster.
The lack of activity from the Sharks today, especially in terms of obtaining a defenseman who could come onto the top pairing, is somewhat of a concern considering it was an area of need Fear The Fin has highlighted over the course of the past six months. However, as we reported yesterday, a release on the team's webpage indicated that goaltending would be the main area of focus for San Jose on July 1st.
As it turns out, that assertion turned out to ring true.
"It happened pretty quick," Sharks acquistion Antero Niittymaki said over conference call. "It was the first phone call I got and that was pretty much it. I signed because when you get to be on one of the best teams in the league, you can't really pass that up."
Niittymaki is a thirty year old goaltender who posted a .909 SV% last season for the Tampa Bay Lightning. Many will remember his brilliant run during the 2006 Olympics in Torino, Italy, where he put the Finnish National Team on his back and led them to a silver medal.
"Once we made the decision on Nabokov we went into researching the style of play, the type of goalies that were having success in this League," Sharks General Manager Doug Wilson said. "Antero certainly jumped out at us for a number of reasons. He was the MVP of the playoffs when [his team] won the Calder Cup in 04-05, and we really liked his performance in the Olympics in 2006. We've liked him ever since that point."
Was there anyone else the Sharks pursued throughout the day?
"There were a couple other guys we were looking at. We felt there would be a supply of goalies in this market, but we also felt that we wanted to get the guy that we wanted, and we were quite proactive in that once we decided Antero was our guy."
Other notable goaltenders who Fear The Fin highlighted as quality targets were Dan Ellis and Chris Mason. Ellis received a two year deal worth $1.5MM a year with the Tampa Bay Lightning, and Mason signed a two year deal worth $1.85MM a year with the Atlanta Thrashers.
Inconsistency has been a hallmark of Niittymaki's career, with the Finnish goaltender displaying periods of utter brilliance that are followed by stretches where he has trouble stopping the puck. He's not the bonafide starter that Evgeni Nabokov was for San Jose, and will likely compete year round for the starting role with Thomas Greiss.
"We have Alex Stalock, who also had a very good year in Worcester last year, and will be coming into camp to compete," Wilson said. "There's going to be a lot of competition, and it will be decided on the ice."
Wilson also indicated that the trade market will be the most likely avenue for San Jose to upgrade their team, citing the free agent period as one where teams tend to overpay throughout the year.
"You're taking a look at pieces that fit," Wilson said. "We've actually been very active in the in free agent market in many ways, re-signing our own players such as Marleau, Pavelski, Nichol et cetera. There's many opportunities out there as we monitor what's going on in the market."
"Free agent frenzy-- they call it that for a reason. We're also exploring the trade discussions, and that's probably where we will spend most of our attention during the next while."
If the trade market is indeed where the Sharks will focus most of their attention, the re-signing of Niclas Wallin does make more sense on a broad level. Doug Wilson is known for his constant fleecing of opposing General Managers in this area, with Dany Heatley, Joe Thornton, and Dan Boyle all coming over via lateral movements.
So how does that tie in to Wallin? With most estimates pegging him in the four to five role next year in San Jose, Douglas Murray has become an expendable piece for the Sharks. It is possible that Wallin was signed in order to give Wilson another chip to play with when negotiating with opposing teams.
Ryane Clowe has been highlighted by Fear The Fin as the most likely casualty, due to his salary cap hit and inconsistent offensive output.
Although the top-tier defenseman have been gobbled up, there still remains some solid middle pairing players that San Jose could pursue in the coming days. Pavel Kubina and Willie Mitchell are both without contracts, and were highlighted earlier on Fear The Fin as belonging to the top ten UFA's on the market. Whether or not the price is right will be an ongoing debate of course, but there is still some value left on the market for a team who desperately requires players of this caliber.
Denis Grebeshkov, Brian Pothier, Joe Corvo, Mike Mottau, Brian Pothier, Shane Morrisson, and Carlo Coliacovo are also players who could find a fit in San Jose.
The organization will have $6.965MM to work with, with Devin Setoguchi and two other forwards needing to be re-signed.
"It's a long way before the season starts," Wilson said.
Taking the current state of San Jose's blueline into consideration, that has to be the most positive sign coming out of the Sharks camp today.
Go Sharks.
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MOJO?!?!?!
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
www.fearthefin.com
Bobby Crosby is my Cousin
www.athleticsnation.com
DW
Will find a way to get it done. He knows what’s up.
I really hope he does :-/
9 out of the 14 D’s we were shooting for are gone now :/
WILLIE MITCHELL AND KUBINA PLEASE! >_>
Go Sharks!
BOTH?
3.5 mil a year a piece?
hehe i could do with such a thing…
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
www.fearthefin.com
Bobby Crosby is my Cousin
www.athleticsnation.com
Well, Wysh has posted his Best/Worst (so far) list
A few examples:
Gonchar and his agent JP Barry are the biggest $ winners
Biggest losers Nabby/Turco aka ‘high-end goalies’
Worst term goes to Volchenkov w/ the Devs
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
So, one day down, and we have a new goalie. For the DW Sharks, that’s actually a pretty active July 1. Niittymaki, if we’ve been listening to DW over the past week or so, is exactly the kind of goalie we should have expected him to sign. Big body, shot blocking, cheaper. Yes, I would have preferred Ellis, but Niitty isn’t terrible. Actually, if he can harness his brilliant streaks and make them longer, he could be a real steal. But we have no way of knowing, and definately shouldn’t expect, that to happen. But at least he’s not Turco, and I can still continue cheering for the Sharks…all of them.
So we’re exactly where we should have expected to be after day 1 of free agency. DW has never made the big July 1 splash, and even though we could have used a new defenseman, and this would have been the year to do it (with so many top D men on the market, prices stayed more reasonable), we shouldn’t be shocked that we didn’t sign one. It’s just not our GMs M.O. Now we head into the rest of the offseason…where DW usually works his magic.
First, the left overs of the Free Agent market. Willie Mitchell and Pavel Kubina are still without a home (as of me writing this), and would both provide an instant upgrade to the blueline. It’s possible that still being around after day 1 will cause their price to drop…something that would be beneficial to us.
Then there’s the trade market. This is where we should expect DW to do the majority of the rest of our tinkering. DW loves to trade. He even said on the conference call earlier today that he was going into “explore trade options” mode. And, well, we should expect nothing else, being as we’ve seen DW work over the past many offseasons.
So, who’s out there in the trade arena? Not sure. Tomas Kaberle is the most prominant name on the list…and one the Sharks could very well be in on. And at a 4.25 cap hit for one more season, he’s definately manageable as far as fitting him on the roster goes. He’d definately help move the offense along, and he’s a really good skater. Not an amazing shutdown guy, but not a fool in his own end. I like the sound of Kaberle in Teal. Elsewhere, Vancouver’s going to have to move a defenseman, after adding Hamhuis and Ballard over the past few days. Names like Bieksa and Ehrhoff have been mentioned as possible trade bait. Bieksa reminds me of a younger old-Blake, in that he has a booming shot, and is a big body who will throw himself around, but will also take some dumb penalties. But he’s pretty defensively responsible…and that’s a good thing for this team. His cap hit of 3.75 for one more year is also pretty decent and manageable. Souray could move, although I"m not sure I’d want him. Needless to say, there’s options out there that DW could exploit and really bulk up our blueline.
Luckily, today is still only July 1. And if history is any indication, now is the time DW really gets to work to shape our roster for next season. Tomorrow, our offseason really begins!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But at least he’s not Turco, and I can still continue cheering for the Sharks…all of them.
That’s funny, I said over at BoC that at least he’s not Turco as well. :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
"It's getting harder and harder to differentiate between schizophrenics and people talking on a cell phone. It still brings me up short to walk by somebody who appears to be talking to themselves." -- Bob Newhart
I’m pretty happy with the Nittymaki signing as well. Right before I saw the Sharks signed him, I saw that Dan Ellis was going elsewhere…and I said to myself, Well, if it can’t be Ellis, I hope it’s Nittymaki. No need to add anything to defend him—I actually think DW did a good job of that today (much more logical than his defense of re-signing Wallin!).
More and more I’m warming up to the idea of dealing for Kaberle, but I do dislike the idea of picking up a guy who will likely be around for just one season. And you know, I can understand DW’s hesitation to give out a long-term contract to outside free agents, but if he lost out on guys like Hamhuis and Vochenkov, who aren’t actually that old (so they’ll likely still be playing at a high level when they’re in the late years of their contracts), that’s kind of unfortunate.
Maybe the Wild would like to add another 2nd/3rd line forward in Ryane Clowe in exchange for Brent Burns.
I trust Doug Wilson.
He’s never given us any reason to doubt the moves he’s made in the past. Why start now?
Everyone questioned DW last year prior to bringing in Heatley. I’m sure he’ll do the same with a d-man this year. Just biding his time. Patience is key everyone.
Yes, I agree
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on Jul 1, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Doug Wilson is taking his phonecalls.
Doug Wilson is biding his time.
Doug Wilson ain’t gettin’ bamboozled.
Doug Wilson wants a winner on the ice.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
by jwizzle241 on Jul 2, 2010 4:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this sounds dumb but what if we sign away bobby ryan
by withintheruins14 on Jul 1, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions
did ryan play with pavelski in the olympics?
by withintheruins14 on Jul 1, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions
So glad that I got here before all the ZOMGTHEWORLD IS OVER crazies get here. Id just like to point out its July 1st….DW never really makes any splashes on July 1st. Hell do it through trade he will rip some team off and hopefully get an awesome D man.
"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10
Dont boo your team!
I get your point...
But why trade an asset for a D man when you could have got one via free agency without giving up assets?
That’s what I don’t get about THIS year… I’ve understood and agreed in previous off seasons. But we have cap space now…
I agree DW isn’t claiming this team has been assembled so we can’t judge an incomplete. But some of his decisions are puzzling and frustrating.
by skilletboy on Jul 1, 2010 8:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
But why trade an asset for a D man when you could have got one via free agency without giving up assets?
Not necessarily true. Assuming the first and second line stay the same (Seto re-signs around 3.2M), the bottom two consist of Couture, McGinn, Ferriero, Nichol, McLaren, Mitchell, the D is Vlasic, Murray, Boyle, Wallin, Huskins, Demers, and Niitty and Greiss are your goaltenders you only have about 2.5M in cap space. You would have to dump Huskins, Clowe, etc. somewhere if you wanted a top D FA.
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See then were back to that damn Wallin contract. No wallin contract that 2.5m goes to 5.0m. More than enough to have nabbed Hamhuis. I liked K. Foster (admittedly not a top pairing guy but 2nd pair for sure…) and he went or 1.8m.
And we lost Malhotra. 2.5 is steep but again without that Wallin contract DW could have kept him.
by skilletboy on Jul 1, 2010 8:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The most interesting quote today for me…
DW confirming that Stalock will be in camp and competing for a spot. We all know DW pretty well and he wouldn’t say that if he didn’t really mean it.
Many people have not been happy with the idea of Stalock coming to the NHL early but I like it. If he isn’t ready he won’t make the squad. They won’t force him if he simply isn’t ready. But they will give him an opportunity. If he can prove he deserves to play he’ll get a shot. I’d like to see him at least get some pre-season starts.
by skilletboy on Jul 1, 2010 8:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
It’s fine if he can win the spot (I suspect he won’t, but by all means, give him the preseason shot). I did not, however, like the idea of RELYING on him to HAVE TO be the guy. Which, now, we don’t have to!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 1, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still very high on Stalock so its good to see he’ll get a chance to compete for a spot, if he can win it great although I just can’t see him taking Griess’s spot right out of camp since they are not going to risk losing Nitty through waivers and frankly another year in the AHL is probably best.
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
Didn't DW say that Stalock wouldn't be in the NHL this season?
On the radio or something…
Either way, I think it’d be nice to see Stalock get a few starts (even just 2 or 3) to have him test the waters (provided we won’t lose Nitty/Griess if either one has to be sent down). Seeing as we got Nitty, I’d like to see Stalock get just one more good year in the AHL before having him ACTUALLY compete for the NHL.
How cool? Think Steve Nash...
"Go Sharks!" -Me
It is quite possible
That DW put down some offers to RFAs from other teams.
"...Take a deep breath sometimes... a break...and play some...hockey."
"...Hockey is a great way to take a pause from...day-to-day hard work..." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr.
"TIC" means "Tongue-In-Cheek", when I use it in comments, in case one doesn't know. ;-)
Chyeah man
2010-11 SAN JOSE SHARKS
LEFT WING CENTER RIGHT WING
Patrick Marleau ($6.9m) Joe Thornton ($7.2m) Dany Heatley ($7.5m)
- Bobby Ryan ($5.5m) Joe Pavelski ($4.0m) * Devin Setoguchi ($3.1m)
Logan Couture ($1.2m)* Mike Modano ($1.2m)* Owen Nolan ($1.5m)
Jamie McGinn ($1.0m) Scott Nichol ($0.8m) Frazer McLaren ($0.5m)
LEFT DEFENSE RIGHT DEFENSE
Douglas Murray ($2.5m) Dan Boyle ($6.7m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.1m) Niclas Wallin ($2.5m)
Kent Huskins ($1.7m) Jason Demers ($0.5m)
GOALTENDERS
Antero Niittymaki ($2.0m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.6m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 20; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $60.052m; CAP ROOM: $0.063m BONUSES: $0.715m
Secondary scoring?
Ridiculous is every way
by withintheruins14 on Jul 1, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions
Im assuming the goal of this completely unrealistic roster is to win every game 7-6
"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10
Dont boo your team!
Man...
all of the above points you guys have made are good ones, but I just feel so butt-hurt right now. Malhotra to the f**kin nucks and then nittymaki’s the goalie we were eyeing. Not trying to proclaim the world is ending or that I know more than DW its just that teams who are winning the cup are so stacked with talent on all contract levels that they literally have to win it before they lose half their team. It just doesn’t seem like that with the sharks right now, it just seems like they are content with having a good core and then praying every year that the half ass talent they get from the market will somehow not lose them a series (which it usually wont in the first 2 rounds but cmon, that’s the difference between us and chicago this year). But if we tear everyone to pieces using our own prospects then it will probably feel that much better
Any man that has the balls to admit he feels “but-hurt”… is A-okay in my book!
by skilletboy on Jul 1, 2010 9:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Any man that has the balls to admit he feels “butt-hurt”… is A-okay in my book!
by skilletboy on Jul 1, 2010 9:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe the players don’t match what we had envisioned but the plan going forward to me seems like what we expected to happen.
Cheep veteran goalie gives chance for pipeline goalies to see action: YAY
Marleau back: YAY
Pavs back: YAY
Seto back: Its going to happen
Improved Defense: BOOOO
Yeah our defense is pretty poor right now but the off season is far from over.
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
Fun facts:
(From RudyKelley)
Nabby, even strength save percentage the last 3 years: .922
Niitty, even strength save percentage the last 3 years: .921
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You want to do something else that is really fun?
Compare the defenses that played in front of them.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
That would be fun, but frustrating, because Niitty's should be waaay lower
Nitty playing for Tampa last year, then for Philly pre-Pronger (when they were consistently at the bottom of the East) means that his save % should be around .500 somewhere, but instead he kept it up at .921. However, Nabby, with great teams in front of him those three years, had a similar save %.
I’m stoked to see the man play and save my judgment for later.
by Chicago Shark on Jul 2, 2010 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Doug Wilson at a live auction
Auctioneer: “Okay, now we have a slightly used Nitty. Starting bid $500..”
DW: “4 MILLION!!!”
Auctioneer: “…4..mil…million? Yes! 4 million! Do I hear 4.5?”
…
…
…
Auctioneer: “Going once, twice….SOLD! to the well tanned man in the back.”
(I kid because I love)
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
I had to go the Google route. It's an NBA thing.
I don’t get it. :(
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Crash Course on Darko Milicic
Unlike Couture, this guy really earns his “Bust” moniker. He was picked #2 right after LeBron James, has never played up to the potential of a Top 10 pick, let alone a 1st Round pick, but just got PAID hitting free agency today. Re-signed in Minnesota for 4 years, $20M total, for a guy whose career average is 5.6 points a game. You don’t have to follow the NBA (which I don’t) to know that overpayment is criminal.
NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Dan Ellis
Wow. Thanks for the lowdown.
He has a cool name though.
In that regard he reminds me of Dragan Umicevic
(though 2003 6th round pick by EDM)
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 2, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
So he’s like Alexandre Daigle, the biggest bust in hockey. First overall, before Pronger even, and it turns out that he didn’t even like playing hockey.
Oooh, or Alexei Yashin. I think last year his buyout was the largest cap hit for the Islanders. It might be this year too.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
Sorry,
DW doesn’t know how to haggle. Family Guy, anyone?
by Chicago Shark on Jul 2, 2010 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay Krishna, point taken
regardless, we need role players who play like studs when it counts and if that’s our younger guys, then fine. The malhotra thing doesn’t seem that bad now that i see the deal he was offered, as Vancouver is more desperate to get out of the second round then any team is to get to the fourth at this point haha
heeeell ja.
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
by Noctro on Jul 2, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be down to sign
Mike Modano. Really, though. We’ve had good luck with slightly disgruntled veterans to come in and give us third-line presence, forechecking, headhunting, locker room presence, etc. I think he could do that admirably.
Seriously, though, let’s just use Wallin in a trade and get ourselves a top flight D-man. Two birds, one stone.
by Captain Leebeard on Jul 1, 2010 9:57 PM PDT reply actions
It's against the CBA to use him in a trade this quickly.
Huskins or Murray seem like more likely trade bait.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 1, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
he is one of my favorite players in all hockey
i wish he hit byfuglien like 90 more times in that playoffs
by withintheruins14 on Jul 1, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
BECAUSE I'M BORED
…
I loved watching Ren & Stimpy as a kid. And when I heard NittyLitter I instantly thought of Stimpy and his love of Gritty Kitty Litter. Sooo, I’m probably the only one who would buy this shirt haha.
Next FTF photochopithon should be Niitty themed.
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
YES!
Wow, that is AWESOME! Ren and Stimpy was always one of my favorites! Hell, who am I kidding, it’s still one of my favorites!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 1, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We should hang out more often
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s amazing that there aren’t more Ren and Stimpy fans out there. One of my college roommates and I would watch that all the time instead of doing homework and such. AH, good times…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 1, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I heart Mr. Horse and Powdered Toast Man
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
All superheroes should fly backwards...
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 1, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs
Rolls over your neighbor’s dog?
What’s great for a snack and fits on your back?
It’s Log, Log, Log!
It’s Log, Log, it’s big, it’s heavy, it’s wood.
It’s Log, Log, it’s better than bad, it’s good!
Everyone wants a log! You’re gonna love it, Log!
Come on and get your log! Everyone needs a Log!
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
yessss
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I happen to prefer International Log! It even can teach you to speak Svennish!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
As coiner of the phrase: I approve ;-)
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
Also, other t-shirt/'chop ideas, courtesy of BoC
- Niitty Niitty Bang Bang
- Tough Niitty
- Niitty Twister
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah they are having a blast with his name … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
"It's getting harder and harder to differentiate between schizophrenics and people talking on a cell phone. It still brings me up short to walk by somebody who appears to be talking to themselves." -- Bob Newhart
Brodie Brazil Twittered me back when I told him about "Niittylitter"...
…and suggested "Getting down to the “Niitty-Griitty.”
LOL.
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
"Niitty-Niitty-Bang-Bang"
Would kinda fit his name. Maybe have a cool craphic with 2 pucks getting deflected.
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
Graphic even.
Could be kinda gangsta, like his helmet art.
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
And when he stands on his head to make a save it can be called a
Nitty-Twister
Mike Babcock's wife thinks Joe Pavelski's a STUD!! Enough said.
Why has nobody thought of Niitts or GTFO?
Drew: Fill in the blank: "When I'm on the ice with Douglas Murray, I..."
Nabby: Poop yourself.
I remember Ren & Stimpy
But I was more of a Doug kinda guy when Nicktoons were big.
However, I approve of this t-shirt.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
I LOVE that show!!!
"Don't even start"
by ZombieSkittles on Jul 2, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Here I might be showing my Bay Area Country Bumpkin upbringing
The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band: Mr.Bojangles
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
you and me both then
(has this cassette somewhere – yes, I said cassette)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
"It's getting harder and harder to differentiate between schizophrenics and people talking on a cell phone. It still brings me up short to walk by somebody who appears to be talking to themselves." -- Bob Newhart
Yes!
And I played my cassette of this song till the tape scrambled:
House At Pooh Corner
aaw
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve noticed you’re quite good at punning.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 2, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
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by withintheruins14 on Jul 1, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
No, BLAMMO!
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 1, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, so it's a fine piece of spam...
but do they sell Nitty shirts?
by calixtus on Jul 1, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Chicago Shark on Jul 2, 2010 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions
this asshole shows does this on Winging it in Motown all the time
dick.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 2, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a chinese knock-off site.
They DO have some awesome Adidas shell toes for 36 bucks. Fuck yeah.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
A link...
for those (read: all) of us who are wondering about the available free agent defensemen
How cool? Think Steve Nash...
"Go Sharks!" -Me
One’s already been signed this morning. Reports are Pavel Kubina to TB for 2 years, 3.85 a year.
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Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Meh, sounds about right to me.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
It's a paycut from last year for him.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 2, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I think DW is done with FA's for now.
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
Meaning he's putting on his used car salesman hat on now, and looking for a traaaaade.
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
Well he'll probably make some of the lower cap hit signings if he sees fit
Like he did last year with Malhotra and Nichol.
How cool? Think Steve Nash...
"Go Sharks!" -Me
I'm not as mad about the Wallin signing now
Seeing as we at least have a defensemen guaranteed.
Sure, would’ve had more cap space to work with. But, considering the general lack of veteran talent that seems to be available, at least we have a guy to fill in a roster spot (albeit at a rather high price)
How cool? Think Steve Nash...
"Go Sharks!" -Me
Sheldon Souray was just put on waivers by the Oilers. Any takers? I’m not that familiar with him. Didn’t he have an injury this past season?
Lots of negatives
Contract is brutal, constantly injured, questionable defensively.
That said, he would improve the power play (great shot) and can play a physical style of defense. Just not worth the risk, though.
NO!
No on Souray. He’s got a 5+ cap hit for an aging vet who is a pylon on defense. Think the speed and size of Wallin with Demers defensive chops.
All he has is a booming shot and injury history these days.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Yeah—obviously with the loss of Blake it would be nice to add a defenseman who can play a role on the power play, but if Demers becomes a regular Blake’s loss on the PP would be minimized.
All the downside of Blake at twice the price for 2 years.
I’ll pass.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Well said.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jul 2, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
This may be blashphemy
But I’m not opposed to Demers being shipped out. Yes, he’s a PP specialist, but I don’t know if and when his defensive game is going to come around. He probably just needs more experience and such, and I wonder if we have the right set of defenseman to give him that playing time. Is he really going to benefit from playing 5 minutes a night for us, 3 of which will be on the PP?
I suppose that it’s not that I don’t think he’s going to be a good D-man someday, I just don’t know if we can develop him.
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I don't follow your logic
Demers was a rook last year. He hasn’t even played a full season’s worth of games. So why are you labeling him as a PP specialist? Sure, thats largely how McLellan used him in the playoffs…but it is understandable to shelter your rookie from the highest level of competition on the biggest stage in the NHL. T-Mac did the same with Couture (who had exactly as many PO minutes/game as Demers).
The fact is, Demers got stronger defensively as we went deeper into the playoffs. He was more defensively responsible, more confident and made less mistakes as compared to the reg. season. I can’t wait to see what his “sophomore” campaign looks like. And I can’t think of a better mentor for him than Boyle because their game’s are so similar.
We just traded who for who?!
I suppose I don't share your view
That Demers got stronger deeper into the playoffs. My memory is that he got less and less playing time, especially when Wallin came back, and was basically relegated to the Power Play.
I don’t see where he fits in on the current roster. He’s a #6 defenseman, as is Kent Huskins. Having both of them on the ice together is a mistake. Obviously it would be great to trade Huskins and his salary, but in the end, I think he and Demers are more closely tradable than most people would think. Huskins consistently improved, and would benefit from a better partner. Demers is younger, with more offensive upside. It’s probably smarter to keep Demers, but a decent draft pick for him seems fine by me as well. I suppose it depends if you think Demers is going to help us win now (I don’t believe he is).
I don’t know, I’m just not sold on the kid. Matt Carle was great on the PP, so was Ehrhoff, and neither of them are with us now.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Your first two lines there are not mutually exclusive. I remember him getting stronger defensively, but also got less playing time, most of which was on the PP. Just like most coaches in every sport, they would rather play the experienced veteran over a rookie in the playoffs in virtually every situation. And I don’t think that was wrong.
I agree, Demers is a #6 defenseman right now, but I think he has the potential to be a 2nd line defenseman, and at the least would provide some scoring punch on the 3rd defensive line. On the flip-side, I think Huskins is a #6 defenseman with the potential to be a #7 defenseman.
There are only a few Sharks I would say are untradeable, the rest are all available for the right price. That said, giving up on young talent this early would be a mistake. What would be the point of getting a draft pick for Demers? He has not accrued enough value yet to get a decent pick for him and his salary is minimal. If he was involved in a trade, so be it, but at this point it would be selling low on him.
The expectations on Carle were much higher as he was a high draft pick for us. He had a great 1st/2nd year campaign logging 42 points and a +9 rating. But the next year he regressed greatly. The combination of being in “win-now” mode, the regression of Carle with high expectations on him, the acquisition of Campbell at the end of that year expecting to re-sign him, and Carle was traded. Ehrhoff on the other hand, was looking like a 30 pt/ +10 defenseman for a few years until 07/08 when he somehow forgot to get the puck on net. He bounced back the next year in terms of points (when they told him to take a little bit out of his backswing) but wasn’t very good defensively in McLellan’s system. Thus with his contract size, was expendable in the pursuit of Heatley.
My point of this review of Sharks history is that while Demers may be generally similar to Carle and Ehrhoff, he has not had half the service time that they did when we gave up on them. Furthermore, Demers has actually had a better rookie campaign than both of them and was much less touted. You can cite the difference between Wilson’s and McLellan’s systems, but at least Demers appears to fit in McLellan’s system.
The way I see it, play Demers this year, and see how he continues to develop. I personally don’t think any prospect that shows any signs of promise should be given up on until you fully know what you have in them. Unless of course if you are getting the right guy in trade.
We just traded who for who?!
I saw Demers play all playoffs and he’s not really bad defensively. His up ice pass is amazing i havent seen stuff like that in a while and i think he will get better hes what 21 years old? huskins i dont think is getting any better, we also may have seen the best of him this year
by withintheruins14 on Jul 2, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It makes me sound drunk
Which, I suppose, is the root of a lot of blasphemy
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Souray basically sucks. No thank you.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 2, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably pondering 1-2 pull-ups from Worcester
"Never start a fight, but ALWAYS finish it."
Bleeding teal since 1997
Kubina off the market.
That leaves Willie Mitchell as our sole possible target on FA market :-/
Go Sharks!
Regehr, please!
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
COUGH COUGH
EDMONTON JUST WAIVED SOURAY
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
WE NEED A GIGANTIC DEFENSEMAN THAT ISNT WALLIN
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
For double his cap hit?
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I think Edmonton's sucking his whole salary for the year, though I haven't checked on it.
Which means, free to negotiate whatever.
And I haven’t said it yet, but fuck Torrey Mitchell. Yes, he’s fast. But that’s about it. Zalewski or some younger player will definitely put more pucks in the net that him. Put him in any trade packages you want.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
They're not buying him out
Not yet at least—so anyone who picks up Souray off waivers right now must pay his entire salary and take the whole cap hit.
Yeah, just saw that. 5.4 on the cap.
Fuck that. Would be a nice thought.
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
At this point
He’s probably never going to be what we thought. Missing a season is never good for a young player, and for a speedster to suffer the sorts of injuries he has now is going to forever cap his ability. But he can kill penalties. If we want to limit Marleau and Pavelski’s PK time, we need guys like him and Nichol on the roster.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
We don't need ALL filler.
At least Malholtra was more than a one trick pony.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
We'll miss Malhotra for sure
Big time loss. But if you can’t have him, I’m willing to give Mitchell another season. He was at least not actively hurting us on the ice the way Staubitz would. Gives us time to find an upgrade through trade.
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I’m with you on Mitchell. I’m all for trying to get in traded out of here and to call up someone who might actually be useful.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i think he’s alright, he just needs to hold onto the puck and its not like a 20-something year old doesnt have room to learn
by withintheruins14 on Jul 2, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It's nothing against Mitchell personally
I think people just think he’s solid, but not worth the $1.3 million on a cap-strapped team. It’s the same thing people have with Clowe.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
I don't think he's solid
He bounces off of people he attempts to check. He’s more flubbery than solid. Lose Mitchell…he’s wasted money.
agreed on the Mitchell point
He’s like a gnat, but one that doesn’t even annoy you. I don’t think I really even remember him playing D all that well even with all his speed. Meh…let him walk imo.
So, the solution to a gigantic defensemen that isn’t Wallin is a gigantic defensemen that is even worse on defense than Wallin at more than twice the price?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Worse than Wallin? Debatable.
Offensive upside versus Wallin? Leaps and bounds above.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
On defense? Definitely worse than Wallin. He’s a pylon. Think Semenov on defense.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Or Blake?
Couldn’t resist. But, the offensive upside would put him in the top 3 D men, and he’s got one of the hardest shots in the league.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I say top 3 d-men?
I meant top 3-D men
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
After Edmonton buys him out
We can talk about his pros and cons. But I think even removing his cap hit as a con, he still doesn’t make sense for us. We have a PP quarterback in Boyle. And we like to have a forward play the other point anyway.
We still need a shutdown partner for Vlasic. If we didn’t sign Wallin, I’d consider picking him up, but I still think we don’t have a good partner for him. But objectively, at about $1.5M to $2M, he’ll find a home after the buyout.
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whoa whoa whoa
I don’t play defense!
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Souray is a Gigantic Ball of NO NO NO!!!
Epic mistake to sign him unless it is for whatever shrapnel DW has clankin in his pocket.
From what I've heard, we could get him for Huskins and Mitchell.
That’s pretty close to shrapnel.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Dude, how many players do you know of that sit out for a year and a half and then come back and instantly produce? Now how many of them have the same amount of service time as Mitchell? I’d wager you can’t find a single one.
I’m not saying Mitchell shouldn’t be traded, but I think you should wait until he puts together his 2nd full season before you jump off the bus.
We just traded who for who?!
Kurtis Foster?
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Hell, Claude Lemieux was retired for how long?
Still more useful than Mitchell. XD
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions
I don't get all the hate for Mitchell
I mean, yeah, I saw him play last season. But this is the kind of guy you can be patient with—he’s young, his cap hit isn’t that bad, and it’s not like he’s taking up a spot on one of the top 2 lines or blocking any younger players with real potential.
And he finally—at the end of the season and into the playoffs—showed some of the speed that makes him a useful player, and with a whole summer to build on that (and not recuperate from injury) maybe next year he will be back to being a solid 3rd line, PK guy for us.
Of course, I wouldn’t be opposed to putting him in a package deal for a defenseman, but I’m also not sure what Mitchell’s value is right now. So it might be better just to keep him and hope he gets back to where he was two years ago.
Where was he two years ago?
Still not scoring anything, ever. :(
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Well two years ago
He was an exciting rookie with potential, who had shown speed, sound defensive play, and scoring pop on the third line. That’s a player worth investing in.
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10 points and 10 assists in a rookie campaign playing with Grier, Rismiller, Curtis Brown and Shelley was actually pretty impressive IMO. I was stoked for this kid.
We just traded who for who?!
Don't forget that awesome breakaway goal.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Ferriero-Couture-McGinn
MacIntyre-Nichol-McLaren
Seems like a better bottom two lines than anything with Mitchell in it…and I don’t know anything about MacIntyre except that he’s bigger and likes to hit people, which is exactly what I want out of my 4th line. That third line could put up some real points if they are given ice time! Mitchell has speed, and nothing else. He can’t score to save his life. But his speed is a tradable asset that could help us upgrade the blueline, and for that reason alone it makes sense to use him to sweeten the deal for the right blueline acquisition.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Mitchell would be awesome next to Nichol and McLaren. That line would be a great checking line, especially for the price. And you want PKers on the 4th line.
We just traded who for who?!
I think it's a contract issue
In Sept.‘08 he broke his leg during the preseason, returned to the WooSharks Jan.’09 and was almost immediately re-injured, missed the rest of the regular season before finally joining the Sharks for 4 playoff games, 0 points.
That offseason Mitchell was an RFA and rewarded a 4.1mil/3yr contract….
(Reminds me of Huskins)
So with that in mind, resentment may spawn from watching Mitchell still trying to recover and reach the potential DW already paid for. Just assumin’
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 2, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
In other news:
Dan Ellis has trouble with Molly Maids service.
I sure hope Niitty gets his tweet on.
“Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah
nah nah nah nah nah nah
Getting Niitty with it!”
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
You just...
That song…
Brain no longer functioning.
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I pity the itty bitty cities that think Niitty is shiitty and not gritty
We just traded who for who?!
by BawLa on Jul 2, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
News! From LeBrun's twitter:
Look for the San Jose Sharks to approach Joe Thornton about a contract extension this summer. He’s got one year left at $7.2 million.
Here's my twitter
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I would guess 3 more years. That way everyone’s contract ends the same time.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
Also, Joe said he wants 3-year contracts
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"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Oh, also, today is JUMBO's B-DAY! (July 2, 1979)
Happy birthday Slappy
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 2, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit I share the same bday as Jumbo, That just made my day EVEN BETTER!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
I didnt think DW offered contract extensions
I know he doesnt re up guys mid season, but it seems like its rarely the case that we offer guys more years unless their contract is up.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
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I think he re-upped Marleau when he had one year left in his last contract.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 2, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Having said that
I think they did that with Pav’s last contract too.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Yup
* June 22, 2003 – Drafted by the San Jose Sharks in the 7th round, 205th overall.
* In the offseason,[which?] Pavelski signed a three-year entry level contract that paid him US$850,000 per year (not including bonuses) until June 2008.[citation needed]
On June 25, 2008, Pavelski signed a contract extension, which will pay him $3.3 millions over the next two years.10
On June 24, 2010, Pavelski signed a 4 year, $16 million contract to stay with the Sharks.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Had to check Wiki
- August 11, 2005, Thornton re-signed with Boston to a three-year deal worth $20 million
- November 30, 2005, Traded to the Sharks
- Jul 1, 2007, Thornton signed a three-year contract extension worth $21.6 million (thru June 2011)
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 2, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet!
I hope they lock him up for a few more years…maybe with a little pay cut.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice, i’d definitely like to see him signed to a long frontloaded contract. If DW is ever going to make use of long frontloaded contracts, Jumbo is the perfect player to do so with.
DW is not going to sign a long, front loaded contract. If anything, he’ll probably just tack 3 more years onto his deal, so his contract is up at the same time the rest of our team’s is. And it’ll be for no more than he’s making now…and potentially less!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
what if we lose the stanley cup again and thorton says fuck it i’m out
id like to extend him now while he still is excited and wants to play here
by withintheruins14 on Jul 2, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions
Thornton* loves it out here.
He’s said that numerous times and has taken a discount previously to stay here. I don’t think he wants to go back to a high-pressure market like Boston again.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 2, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we are.
But I don’t think it’s like being in a market like Boston and constantly being criticized. Sure we have the Purdys and Kawakamis, but they aren’t taken seriously.
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks Fans Aren't Like Other Sharks Fans.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 2, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Balls
With Zenon Konopka signing for the Islanders I am envisioning massive amounts of fisticuffs between Konopka, Shelley and Boogaard.
WOW!
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Good News Regarding Souray
According to Pierre LeBrun:
Sheldon Souray is available for nothing in return after Edmonton put him on waivers Friday, as the Oilers are praying a team will pick up his big contract. You can rule out the Sharks on Souray; no interest there.
There are a few more details about the Sharks’ and Kings’ interest in a top-4 defenseman, with all Kaberle discussions on hold until after the long weekend. To me, though, it’s just a relief—like yesterday when we didn’t go after Turco—to hear that DW has no interest in Souray.
Good! Do not want!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Want, but not at that price.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 2, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree… price is too high. But at 2.5 or so he would be a great pickup. Hmm…. where else did we just spend $2.5MM on the D??
I dont know
But I sure am hungry for Hamburgers
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
That’s just a snack for Ray Ratto…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
There's not two of them!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I think in his case
As soon as cheese and meat come together, it gets all gooey
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by ElvisVF101 on Jul 2, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting that Mark Eaton today received a 2 year, $2.5 per contract from the Islanders. Granted, the Isles probably had to overpay to get him, but the Sharks may have had to overpay to keep Wallin (based on him simply waiving the NTC for the trade last season). Eaton is 33 and doesn’t possess much of an offensive game, is solid, if unspectacular on defense, so the comparison to Wallin is fairly solid, I’d say. And I feel a little less bad about Wallin’s deal—though I still wish we’d just gone in another direction.
The more I look at it,
the more Wallin’s contract looks like a handshake deal, made when he came over last year that DW is honoring.
Also, seeing these HUGE numbers for d-men flying around out there, $2.5M isn’t looking as bad as it did a week ago.
links or gtfo
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by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
is it just me, or does she look hotter upside down
by SharksFanTillDeath on Jul 2, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Schultz
I think we should make an offer. He is a RFA. He is a pretty good defensive defenseman that I think we could get for around 2.5/year.
sheez he had a +/-of 50 last season???
yeah I’d be down with that.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 2, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Schultz isn’t leaving Washington.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Nitty's wife
idhitit
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
yeah so Nitty's wife looks like (or is)Ally Sheedy
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 2, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
wasn't she, like, in love with a robot?
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I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
It all makes sense now.
I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.
by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Jul 2, 2010 6:09 PM PDT reply actions
Hmm strange
Via Pierre Lebruns twitter:
Mike Modano via text message says Red Wings only team to call so far but said, ``if there is only one not a bad one to be.’’
DW get on that shit! Obviously our priority is signing defensemen but i would think it’d be smart just to let him know that we’re interested at the very least.
Maybe we aren’t interested…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Well duh
I’m obviously implying that I think we should be interested. The “strange” part though, wasn’t that we haven’t called him, but that the Red Wings are the only team that has called him.
A guy with Modano’s talents who’s likely to come very cheap would make a good replacement for Manny. Why not at least make contact to find out how much he’s looking for. Maybe Modano just wants a chance at another cup and is willing to play for free. lol we’d never know that because we never even called to find out.
Based on comments from DW when he was talking about Malhotra leaving, he seemed to be content with the thought of Couture in the 3C role. It’s not like we’re lacking for centermen. Personally, I could take or leave Modano.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that’s even more worrying then, because that could mean that DW doesn’t intend to trade Clowe (or Seto, but that’s a good thing imo), which means our blueline probably won’t see any major improvements.
could, would, should. You’ve spent a lot of time this offseason typing about what you think DW ought to be doing, which is fine. We all speculate. But when he doesn’t follow your prescribed plan, you freak out! Its only July 2!
Maybe DW wants to make trades involving draft picks and Huskins. Maybe he wants to sign W. Mitchell and Seto and be done with it. Point being, just because he isn’t following your plan, doesn’t mean DW isn’t going to set up this team in a manner that he best sees fit to compete for the Cup.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
wtf are you talking about?
Excuuuuse me for speculating and giving opinions during the freaking offseason. Maybe we should all just stop posting and remain quiet til the beginning of the next regular season.
I actually made a big post earlier today in that “i wonder” fanpost talking about the possible reasoning behind DW’s controversial decisions this offseason and why they actually make sense.
The only thing i said DW should do is upgrade the blueline, which i think we can all agree on. In order to make any real improvements we need to free up some cap space since we have less than 3 million cap space assuming we resign Seto (which we definitely should imo).
I don’t think Huskins and draft picks are going to get us a top 4 defensemen, unless we give up some serious draft picks which probably wouldn’t be a smart move anyways, but that wouldn’t give us enough cap space to sign a top 4 defenseman anyways.
So yeah, Clowe seems like our most tradeable asset. He has good trade value, he’d free up a lot of cap space, and we now have Logan Couture who looks like he could fill the open spot in our top 6.
If DW is planning on using Couture to center the 3rd line then that could mean a few things, which is where the speculation comes in; and speculation is the name of the game during the offseason. Does DW plan on keeping our defense pairings the way they are? If not, how does he intend to do that with out limited cap space? If he intends to trade Clowe (maybe for Kaberle) then who does he intend to take his top 6 spot if not Couture?
That’s what offseason discussions are about. If you don’t want to participate then don’t, but don’t come in here like, ‘Bro STFU! DW knows best and he’s not gonna follow your stupid plan! DW is gonna do what the fuck DW wants to do!’
It’s a matter of phrasing. There’s a big difference between “man, this would be awesome…” or “I wonder if the Sharks could do this,” than “DW better do this,” or “DW better get on this.”
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 3, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
How does that mean he doesn't intend to trade Clowe?
Last I checked, Clowe was not a center.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 3, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Nvm, saw your follow up post.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 3, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
On this point I agree with DW. Modano is a great player and great person, but I could see him being a big distraction with this team.
Many of the returning players on the Sharks are talking about this year being “unfinished business”. D upgrades are one thing but Modano might be too much. Plus I bet he isn’t taking much of a discount.
by skilletboy on Jul 2, 2010 11:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I just don’t see Modano being a difference maker for this team…and we have limited resources, and Modano is not a need…he’s just a name.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 2, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
See these are proper responses to rosterbation comments. You give your opinion and why you agree or disagree. It’s true we probably don’t need him and we should probably use our resources in other areas like on defense.
I’m just curious to know how much Modano is looking for because he could be a great value player for our 3rd line, but as you said he’s really not necessary.
Off topic...
I was hoping anyone had a sweet Pavelski photo preferably from the playoffs like celebrating or scoring or something badass. I need a new background on my computer and google has nothing. Also, how sick would this be? http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee355/customsportscovers/NHL/JoePavelski10Cover.png
That's what I used for my NHL 10 cover =]
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Not Mitchell, Not Souray, Not Bieksa...Yes to Jan Hejda
We’ve already talked about who would fit best on this team. Jan Hejda. He’s big, defensive minded, and his cap hit fits perfectly at about 2mil. He’s also only got 1 year left on his contract (I think), and the Bluejackets need pretty much everything so they make a great trade partner. DW could send over a nice chianti and fava beans for this guy. If we’re going to focus any mojo on a player, it should be Hejda.
Hejda would be amazing at his 2 million dollar cap hit. I wonder what it would take to get him exactly. I’m assuming Columbus is looking for picks and prospects.
I feel like we still need another puckmoving defenseman as well, on top of Hejda/Willie Mitchell. Kim Johnsson could be that guy, assuming he’s healthy. I also hear good things about Dan Girardi who’s also a UFA.
Signing another defensemen would mean we lose Murray but he might make good trade bait, and I don’t think we have much of a choice now with the Wallin signing.
I’m with you on the puck moving thing, which is why I’d be pretty happy should the Sharks trade for Kaberle. I think a lot of teams will be in on him, though. Clowe would be an attractive piece to Burke, though…so we could potentially do something there.
Hejda is awesome, but I think he’s the exact kind of player Columbus keeps in the offseason, and then moves only if they’re out of contention at the trade deadline and haven’t signed him to an extention yet. I think to get him now would cost more than I’d be comfortable giving up, anyways.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 3, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I waaaas all for a Kaberle trade
but if we can trade for Jan Hejda we’d have enough extra cap space to add another defenseman without having to lose Clowe; although we would have to move Murray to open up a spot on D, so there’s extra cap space gained there.
I actually really like Clowe and i feel like he’s a big part of the team, not just on the ice but in the locker room. Also, how awesome would it be if next season was the season Clowe worked out his inconsistency issues? He could be a monster. If it’s possible to seriously upgrade our D without losing Clowe then we should do that imo.
For example:
2010-11 SAN JOSE SHARKS
FORWARDS
Dany Heatley ($7.500m) / Joe Thornton ($7.200m) / Patrick Marleau ($6.900m)
Devin Setoguchi ($3.200m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Ryane Clowe ($3.625m)
Benn Ferriero ($0.850m) / Logan Couture ($1.242m) / Jamie McGinn ($0.997m)
Torrey Mitchell ($1.367m) / Scott Nichol ($0.760m) / Frazer McLaren ($0.543m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / * Jan Hejda ($2.000m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / * Kim Johnsson ($3.500m)
Niclas Wallin ($2.500m) / Jason Demers ($0.543m)
GOALTENDERS
Antero Niittymaki ($2.000m) / Thomas Greiss ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 20; CAP:$59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $0.328m;
PAYROLL: $59.371m; CAP ROOM: $0.959m; BONUSES: $0.930m
What did you trade for Hejda?
Murray and Huskins?
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 3, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The difference being...
Kaberle is known to be on the block…Hejda is not. I’d take Hejda any day of the week, but I doubt he’s going anywhere…yet.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 4, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Does anybody know what’s happening with Brett Sterling?
And theoretically what do you think it would take to get Gagne here
by withintheruins14 on Jul 3, 2010 9:44 AM PDT reply actions
Since you’re a rangers fan, how do you like Dan Girardi? I don’t watch him very much but i hear good things about him. He sounds like a puck moving defenseman who’s also very strong in his own end.
You think Sather will resign him? and for how much?
Pfft… Who we should be looking at on the Rangers is Staal. They’re in a contract dispute because Sather only believes in overpaying players other teams develop and not his own drafted talent.
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I actually thought Girardi was a UFA, but he’s still an RFA at 26 along with Staal. I think Sather wants to keep both Staal and Girardi, Staal especially. Girardi is probably much more gettable, and he’d have a much lower cap hit than Staal.
I dunno, i’m just throwing possible trade targets out there.
For some reason that post just screams HF boards.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 3, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
hey Krishna that wasn't a slight , i like the Niittymaki signing it was a good move for a good price
lol evilducks you are right about sather with over paying other teams players, look at boogaard. garardi he is just your run of the mill stay at home defensemen, he is not a liability in the offensive zone but he is better in his own end, not overly physical but you will now he is there, he is worth 2.5 million but he will get almost 3 due do sather’s gross salaries he gives out, but he is our second best defenseman behind staal. staal is special and there arent many like him in the league i don’t think anyone could trade for him, but i don’t see why you couldn’t get garardi in a trade he is a soild player.
I think with nitty in goal you guys will like him IMO
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Garardi is going to arbitration most likely and won’t get what he wants (arbitration is brutal). This means a 1 year deal and he’ll walk next year.
Who knows what’s going to happen to Staal. Sather refuses to pay his own players, and I bet this drags on like Dubinsky last year.
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