Setoguchi's Contract
by ninakix on Jul 20, 2010 8:41 PM PDT
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Alright, what's the deal with Setoguchi's contract? I'm new around here (hello!) and I'm just curious what's going on with it, when does it need to be signed by, what people think it means that it hasn't been signed... I saw some tweets about Setoguchi's contract expiring on Thursday - anyone have any idea about this?
Especially with all the rumors about sharks trading someone like Setoguchi for a d-man, are we not going to see Setoguchi as a shark next year? Certainly DW can't just be "forgetting" about this...
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First of all, welcome!
I saw that tweet as well and immediately did some due diligence with regard to qualifying offers, etc. It’s not expiring on Thursday – RFAs have until December 1st to sign a contract with an NHL team or they’re ineligible to play on a team this season. As for why he hasn’t signed yet, well, that’s anyone’s guess. I’m sure it involves a cap hit in excess of $3 million per, so I doubt it’s due to insufficient money, but then again, who knows what amount the QO was for.
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The QO has to be for what ever he made last season. I would not worry too much about him not resigning yet, its not uncommon for a RFA to go a while with out being signed and since neither he nor the team filed for arbitration there is not any reason to worry. I guess the other possibility is DW is using him as trade bait but I would be VERY surprised if that was the case.
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I’m also in the not at all worried category. The fact that he didn’t file arbitration and has indicated that he wants to continue to play in SJ are all the comfort I need. I’m reminded of Clowe’s final year as an RFA and that went well into August before he re-signed under a very similar situation.
If September rolls around without a contract I’ll get mildly concerned. October is when I’ll officially panic.
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Here’s how I think he is using Seto…
GM: Hey, that guy looks pretty good. What’s his name again?
DW: Oh, him? That’s Devin.
GM: Oh yeah! Hey, he’s got a lot of potential. How about a trade?
DW: I’m up for that. But I need a good defenseman in return **Cough**Marc Staal**Cough**
GM: Yeah, Well do I have the guy for you!
//GM offers badass defensive defenseman//
DW: Yeah, He would work out perfectly!
GM: Okay, so Devin for my badass defenseman, right?
DW: Well, I’ve been thinking that this other guy I have would work out really well in your system… Care to take a look?
GM: Sure. I mean, it’s great to have as many options as I can!!
DW: His name is Ryane Clowe… Now hear me out, Clowe is a power forward with great play along the boards, Devin really doesn’t do that. Clowe also put up 10 points in 15 playoff games… That’s pretty good for a power forward now isn’t it?
GM: Wow, I never really thought about it like that. So how about you give me Clowe for my badass defenseman?
DW: Well, you know that I’m giving up a lot in Clowe right?
GM: Yeah, I was afraid of that. How about my badass defenseman…and a third round draft pick??
DW: I think that would work
//DW smirks in the corner while GM signs the form//
GM: I can’t believe that I just got Clowe for my badass defensive defenseman and a third! Man, I’m gonna go share this to the rest of the league to show what an awesome GM I am!!!
This was just a joke for all of you who didn’t catch on!!!
by kiwi93 on Jul 21, 2010 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hmm David Perron just signed for only 2.1 million per year for years with the Blues. He’s a year younger than Seto and put up 11 more points this season than Seto did, but 15 less points than Seto did last season; either way they’re fairly comparable players imo.
Maybe we end up signing Seto at a very nice cap hit of 2.7 million or something after all? (the contract wouldn’t be for more than a couple years though i’m sure.)
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But we can’t just base his salary from his play last year. As we all know, Setoguchi had a 36 goal season two years ago that should be considered when structuring his new deal.
Well his 31 goal season in 08-09 is why i said 2.7 million instead of 2.1 like Perron got. Considering his regression and a bit of a hometown discount, a 2.7 million cap hit for Seto doesn’t seem that crazy.
was it 31… My bad! I don’t know why i put 36! Although I’m pretty content with anything from $3.2M-$3.5M. You also have to remember that Wilson has a tendency to give his players, say, healthy contracts haha
That was Patty's total from that year
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 21, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I just bought my Setoguchi jersey!
Actually it was at the start of the playoffs. But still, imma be pissed if he gets traded.
haha, true. I’m pretty sure a couple guys here on FTF said they bought Hjalmmar jerseys before the Hawks matched out our offer.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 21, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ahem and one girl. :P
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"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 21, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, I can’t wait to see you rock your Sharks Hjalmmer jersey at the tank!!!
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 21, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
oh man I'll be laughed out of of there so fast
someone would HAVE to submit me/ I would have to submit myself to PD’s jersey foul.
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"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 21, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Wear it to the versus CHI game...
…maybe he’ll get confused and start playing for us.
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by Noctro on Jul 21, 2010 3:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
start chanting
HAmmer HAMMER haMMER hammER hahahha awful.
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"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 21, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll save you the embarrassment and buy it from you. On the cheap, of course.
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"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 21, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That = collector's item
Shortest Shjark career ever.
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by Noctro on Jul 21, 2010 3:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That = collector's item
Shortest Shjark career ever.
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by Noctro on Jul 21, 2010 3:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
One day I'll figure out why my iPhone double posts...
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by Noctro on Jul 21, 2010 3:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Apple technology is so good
it posts twice as much as you intend.
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because that comment
was twice as good the second time around ;)
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- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 21, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hja! Hja! Hja!
+1.
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by Noctro on Jul 21, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love cheesy fun :)
I’m never going to get that out of my head now you know…forever it’ll be hjahjahja. :P
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 22, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So both Mason Raymond and Tomas Fleischmann have resigned with their teams
Raymond put up 25 goals and 53 points in 82 games last season – 2 years for $5.1 mil ($2.55 cap hit).
Fleischmann had 23 goals and 51 points in 69 games last season – 1 year for $2.6 mil.
Seto’s stat line of 20 goals and 36 points in 70 games last season suggests that the Sharks could lock him up for a year or two at similar numbers to one of these players. Considering the off year that he had I would love to see the Sharks get a two year $5 million dollar contract for him. This would represent a doubling of his previous salary and still keep him at a team friendly cap hit.
Also because of Seto’s age after two years he would be a RFA again providing the Sharks with a solid bargaining chip for potential trades at that time.
Those guys got locked up at some pretty solid cap hits. I dunno if we’ll be that fortunate though.
Pavelski’s numbers are nearly identical to Fleishmann’s this year and Pavs got 4 mill lol. Obviously though, Pavs is a lot better than his numbers this season indicate, as is Seto. If Seto gets signed at 3.2 million or less for 3+ years i’ll be downright ecstatic.
OMG PRESS CONFERENCE
What’s this press conference on Monday? Any ideas what they’ll announce for Setoguchi’s contract? Think they’ll trade him? Someone talk about this, please!!
http://www.stocktonthunder.com/news/latestnews/?article_id=1310
No, that means that the Sharks will announce their dual partnership with the Oilers to use the Stockton Thunder as a development outlet.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Aug 1, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought they did that last year.
Will this just make it official?
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Last year’s arrangement wasn’t official. This will be, or so I believe.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Aug 1, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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