San Jose signs Niklas Hjalmarsson to a four year, $14MM offer sheet
According to TSN's Bob McKenzie, San Jose has signed RFA Niklas Hjalmarsson to a four year, $14MM offer sheet.
Chicago has seven days to match the offer. If they do not, San Jose will owe Chicago a 1st and a 3rd round pick as compensation.
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I’m sure Chicago will match the offer to keep him, but I have to say, this was unexpected.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
But can they match it? If they do then they need to purge more salary. I think they take the 1st and 3rd and go home.
Good... bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
Screw the Wings.
Yeah they can be over the cap by matching the offer sheet and then shed salary later. I hope though that we get to keep him this would be a huge steal for us.
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
Bingo
The Hawks have until September to be under their (lowered-by-performance bonuses) cap. Matching the San Jose offer right now isn’t a problem.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
The Hawks must be pissed, although they did it to themselves
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
but they did it and won a Cup
maybe that was their intention all along? Who knows. If we can reap the benefits of that error why the heck not. Go D!
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Getting under would be extremely difficult for them, but you’re right in saying that they have a lot to play with still. Whether or not they want to go that route or let him walk for picks is questionable, but with a player like Hjalmarsson, I tend to agree— it would be hard to let him walk.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I know teams have until September to get under the cap, and they’re allowed to sit over it by a certain amount in the offseason while they’re wheeling and dealing. But, to match an offer sheet, does a team have to be under the cap already and make them fit? Are teams allowed to go over while matching an offer sheet in the offseason?
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
TEams are allowed a cushion, and I believe it’s around roughly $64.0MM but would have to check my facts.
Either way, Chicago doesn’t want to let him walk. Can they afford to keep him? Who knows at this point, all a game of wait and see. I assume that Dale Tallon will be getting a lot of calls in Florida during the next week (as if he hasn’t gotten a lot already from the Hawks in the last three weeks LOL).
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Also, keep in mind Chicago’s cap hit for performance bonuses— pretty sure it was about $4.0MM, but again, would have to double check.
Trying to throw a post together with TCY right now that will have all the relevant details.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
The custion is 10% over the cap.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 9, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
10% over the cap (59.4) or their cap (55.3)?
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure it’s 10% over “the” cap, i.e. an additional $5.94M
Not positive though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you rather have the Hammer or Marc Staal?
Good... bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
Screw the Wings.
I'll answer that question with a question:
Which one hurts the hawks more?
…
But no, seriously, someone who actually knows anything about Staal, answer?
Staal, but that’s not an equal comparison really, Staal would require a lot more to sign. He would require a higher cap hit, and some serious picks if we went the offersheet route (although i have a feeling Sather would match nearly any offer); i don’t know if he’s really available for trade but he would cost some very valuable assets.
Hjalmarsson is cheaper, much easier to get, and still very very solid.
Is there a name that’s harder to spell then that?
Good... bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
Screw the Wings.
Antero Niittymaki?
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
That's the first thing I thought of...
Another name to learn how to spell? What a “pain”
Here's my twitter
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by idunno723 on Jul 9, 2010 10:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I am siiting here praying we have that problem
"Like I said, it’s like me giving you a high-five and chest bump after you hit for the cycle against the kid in the wheelchair." Vacafan on May 14, 2010
I’ll actually be a little surprised if Chicago matches it – they still have major cap problems, even with the salary dumps they’ve already pulled off. Still, you never know.
I think I’ll just stick with The Hammer rather than attempt to learn how to pronounce his name. I’ll be happy if he ends up here.
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by OtherKid on Jul 9, 2010 9:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
FTF explodes in 3...2...
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Ok. Question. Was he WORTH 4 years at 14 million AND a 1st and 3rd?
Good... bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
Screw the Wings.
Yes, 1st and a 3rd round pick if he signs with the Sharks.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 9, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
B.E.A.S.T.
we were all pretty high off that guy.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think strange was asking about what the rules were, I think he was asking whether Hjarlmarsson’s worth the cap hit and lost draft picks.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
Yes.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 9, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
so celebrations are in order? panic season among Sharks fans is officially over with?
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
Panic season is never over with! You should know this! :-P
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
After all the Hawks have 7 days to match. PANIC!!!!
Who’s gonna finish this off? I am going Boyle. - FML! No more OT Predictions from me!
It's like 'The Ring'
Calls Hawks’ office
DW: “You have 7 days…”
(click)
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But the Blackhawks will simply assume they have 8
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
He’s most definitely worth it. Power’s out here so I can’t grab any Corsi numbers, etc, but he’s a badass.
..:Fear The Fin:..
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by OtherKid on Jul 9, 2010 10:16 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Eww
1st and 3rd round picks? That’s a little much. Just say no.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Not for a guy at Hjalmarsson’s age and skill level, and considering the Sharks are likely to draft late in both rounds.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 9, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for talking me off the edge TCY. I still expect more bedside confessions from you and Plank though.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
What?
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 9, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m joking about your bedside video with Plank at the draft.
BTW, if this deal is complete how will it affect the Sharks cap?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I will have more on this in an hour or so.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 9, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
At this point, it’s up to Stan Bowman to decide if San Jose gets him or not.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
Wowser
This might actually be doing Chicago a favor in the long term, and us a major service in the short term.
Chicago gets some cap space and some decent picks, San Jose doesnt have to give up any players to trade for available D men.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up a similar situation than the Kessel to Toronto deal. The Hawks will likely resign and then try to see what is out there for some other spare parts or just bury someone in the minors. If neither is an option they’ll go back to the Sharks and play let’s make a deal.
by BruinsSelectSeguin on Jul 9, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Except Chicago doesn't get the 2nd overall pick...
They better be happy with the 30th :P
Nashty...
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Strangest part for me, Chicago waiting to get an offer sheet. They clearly hadn’t signed him through the first nine days of July.
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I have a Twitter Thing.
I guess this was a good day to plan FTF live.
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verrry good day :)
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
WHOOO HAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me likie!
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
and I you too!
How’s the COL team lookin pal. Not nearly as depressed as we are right?
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
How could you NOT like a guy nicknamed “Hammer?”
Good... bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
Screw the Wings.
I posted a picture of Hammer earlier
during the SCF..hahaha the girls definitely liked him.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you changing yor name to mssjshjjalmasrson (oh no this is worse than Niyttymakki)
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
no I've decided
I’ll always be MsClowie regardless of what happens to the man. He’s my dude.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
H-jal-mar-sson. Not too difficult :)
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Forgot to finish my thought….
Anything is better then the other UFA signings.
by ilooklikeafat16 on Jul 9, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting move. No idea if he’s worth the 1st round pick and the salary that will be second highest on defense. We’ll see I guess.
But is this is the game DW decided to play, why not throw an offer sheet at Niemi? He didn’t want to wait being afraid that Nitty will be gone by then?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Pretty decent for what would be a top 4 guy for us for a while.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Niitty is better than Niemi, IMO.
I think Hammer is worth a 1st and a 3rd and his salary. Being able to get someone that young, and yet who’s really pretty good and still improving. Doesn’t happen that often.
besides, when has DW ever been lothe to trade away our first rounder? At least this time it will be on someone who’s going to stick around!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, praise DW for not spending our 1st on a rental again.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
And I’d much rather he spends it to bring someone in before training camp…gives them all season to learn the system and get some comraderie with the guys. Good move if it works out…if it doesn’t, well, at least he’s trying.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait a minute
what does this mean for signing Setoguchi? If the Hawks don’t match, the Sharks have about $2.6 million left in cap space with Seto still unsigned. Somebody has to go if the Sharks want to sign Seto at the price we expect him to be signed for.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
They'll trade
To make the room for Seto….patience. That’s why he didn’t file for arbitration.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts
Murray’s ticket is easily punched out of town now, even if it wasn’t before with the Wallin signing. Really just no room for a player of his caliber if San Jose has Hjalmarsson next week.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Huskins could work.
We might even be able to keep Leach as a healthy scratch if Gooch’s deal was good enough.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
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Because DW loves Huskins Time
and Murray would probably gain more interest in Huskins.
Everyone is so down on Huskins all the time and they’re like “Trade him! Trade him!”, but if he’s so bad that we don’t want him on the team, who will want him?
(for the record, I’m officially over my hate-on-Huskins phase, he may not be the best D-man, but he’s earned my begrudging respect)
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
I feel the same about Huskins.
I’d just rather keep Murray.
I think Huskins earned his $1.7 million last year, it just doesn’t necessarily fit on this team.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
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Fair enough
I’d rather keep Murray too, but his cap hit is higher. Honestly, I just still can’t get over the Wallin signing.
I’d have been fine with letting Wallin walk had I known we were gonna get Hjalmarsson.
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I'm going to grab this post from a non-FTF member, whom I highly respect
(incredibly hockey-savvy individual)
the biggest disappointment was Huskins. 12min TOI and a -5. That’s ludicrous, at that rate you might as well play a rookie because his match-ups were that weak….Wallin is in the same camp as Huskins as far as playoff hockey goes, secret weapon notwithstanding. They play worse than other last pairings. At least Murray is moderate as far as playoffs go, at least near to holding his own.
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 9, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
totally agree – he’s not that good – and sorry to the people here who think he is, but no f**in way!!! He occasionally came up big, but was generally weak last season
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
(Aaaand DW offered Huskins/Wallin unprecedented mega-raises – weeeeee)
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 9, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think you’re right. Luckily, Murray showed a lot last year, and should fetch something decent in return.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree – Murray had a great season last year. I hope he stays.
Otherwise with Blake and Murray gone, who’ll be the one delivering huge hits? Demers?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
…Hjalmarsson? This kid is really good.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Right— DW signed Wallin so he has another trade chip to play with in Murray (as oppossed to just having Clowe).
Not sure what kind of value Huskins has around the league. One year remaining is a plus, and the fact that there are some salary floor teams.
DW loves his puck movers. Hjalmarsson isn’t that. Only one he has is Boyle and Demers now. He’ll trade Murray and something else for that guaranteed, I think.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
For Example
Wallin, Murray, Hjalmarsson, Leach, Vlasic. All defensive first guys.
Maybe you can get Vlasic to open up his game with a steady defensive guy like Hjalmarsson, but Pickles is never going to be the puck moving mold that Wilson is infatuated with.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
But we were just starting to become more.. Swedish!
"Nichol is like a big, mean energizer bunny. Well, not big, but he's mean."
This is PRECISELY...
what I thought/hoped DW would do. In fact, this was my #1 target. And…I predict it wont be the last dip in the RFA pool DW takes. I love it.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions
Hell...
Send one to Jack Skille too…another guy Chicago desperately doesn’t want to lose, but is still in cap hell
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, if this RFA signing works out, we’ll be out our first and thrid…so any other RFA he’d want to try and get would require DW signing someone to an offer sheet that won’t require those picks.
I suspect this would be the only one…and then we’ll see some trades.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless you're picking in the top 3 in the 1st round...
Who gives a shit? the NHL draft is a pure crap shoot beyond that… and we’re not going to be picking til the END of the first…
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
For sure. I’m all for the move. I’m just replying to the fact that we wouldn’t be able to sign a second RFA to a similar salary, because our first would be in Chicago…that’s all.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone get Glen Sather on the phone
I’m sure he’d send us a first for a bag of pucks.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
YES!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely True
Skille…only by way of example might be more of a 3 years/5-7 mil deal.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, please make more awesome predictions. Thank you.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
seriously
for the man who has a really visual screenname you’re kinda badass.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry about the Screen Name...
I offered to change it here…I really created it for posting on the Avs and Hawks SB nation pages…to rile em up. :()
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
hahaha naw its cool
i’m growing into it….just a little scary at first. But badass nonetheless Mr. Predictor.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I like your screen-name; when I first saw it though I was like Daamn! Ok, coo.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know
DW would do it…but this scenario has been staring him in the face and I thought it made perfect sense (and posted such here at FTF). I’m proud of him for pulling the trigger. I guess the DW is a “soft” GM talk can finally cease. I never thought so.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
this is amazing. Best news we’ve had in a while. And when people were talking about this Hammer kid a few weeks ago, honestly I was like, yeah right – how are we gonna land that?
Wow.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope we land him easily.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear they serve great meatballs?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
by 49er16 on Jul 9, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
As Brodie Brazil pointed on Twitter, no wonder the Sharks are starting this season in Sweden.
All about marketing.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I sense regional historical antagonism, Ivan. ;-)
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
I guess the Sharks don’t care about making an enemy of Bowman. Does the thinking go that he won’t have the cash to offer-sheet your guys in the future? Interesting.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
It's business
I’m sure DW knows this could bite him later, but the fact is, this is what offer sheets are designed to do when teams manage their cap poorly.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
Well, yes, I understand that. It’s just usually the fear of revenge does give some GMs pause — the reason this is not more common. I like this play because Chicago’s just weaker.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
I have to guess that DW thought about this for awhile before acting. Dude is shrewd as hell.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
DW
doesn’t care about revenge. The guy played without a helmet, he ain’t scared of another GM doing anything. This move is shrewd, and improves the hell out of the defense. I love it.
And it is also smart because they know, because they run a team too, and can figure these things out…that this is an either or for the Hawks in regards to Seabrook.
If they match on Hjalmmerstrom (SP?) , they pretty well can’t sign Seabrook for next year.
Hawks wil have the $4mil extra to play with next year (the money that came off their cap this upcoming season). If there the salary cap increases, they’ll have that to play with as well.
Seabs currently makes $3.5mil. I’m guessing his contract structure will be like Hossa’s and the team will be able to pay him around $5-5.5 mil per year. Should be doable, no?
Screw Bowman
I don’t understand this cow-tow thinking.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Think of it this way— when is the next time Chicago and San Jose would be making a trade? It’s like offer sheeting someone from Detroit— who gives a shit, niether of these teams will be trading in the near future.
If you’re talking about Poppa Bowman’s pull throughout the NHL that’s a marginal point, but I think the upside greatly exceeds the downside.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
DW is
an upper echelon GM already…he can run with the power boys. This just earned him more respect.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I think if you read my comments, I’m in favor of this. I was just pondering the ramifications. Not that my opinion maters.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
Hey … of course it matters … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
Of course it does. Really just spewing my thoughts up and down the page right now.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Mine
Doesn’t either but that doesn’t stop me.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
What would be cool is Hawks deciding to keep Hammer, but trading Seabrook to San Jose.
Seabrook is one of the people they may have to get rid of if they want to keep Hammer.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
wouldn’t mind that at all.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jul 9, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Well Mr. Plank
Still worried about DW just going with what we have for defense?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
It’s just an offer sheet. Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves.
Wallin is still no. 3 d-man.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
It is only an offer sheet
But this shows us that Wilson is not content with the defense as it currently stands. Even if we don’t get Hjalmarsson, at least we know that Wilson is going to do something…
He wants to be...
our sledgeHammer!
Ballsy move by DW.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
Is that from the Drew Carey Show?
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Nope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyc37aOqT0
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
Ah, I had it confused with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgrb1OTvPes
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Fantastic
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Keep Marleau Forever" Club
by Lurker Shark on Jul 9, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
weeee!!!!!
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
My fear is that DW is jumping the gun again.
This young fellow had one good season in Chicago – that’s all.
One season..
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Maybe it just took one season for DW to see what this kid has. Have a little faith in DW. :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
we’re starting to sound alike when it comes to DW, Ang…lol
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
Matt Carle’s doing pretty well in Philly…a lot of it is about who you play with.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
I wouldn’t.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
That's because women can't play sports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov-g59wMivc
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
have to share that vid with everyone!!!
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
He might be our new
“veteran” Cup winner that we ‘need’ :P
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
ERRRRWHERE and ALLLDATIME
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
You're just bitter because we have no Russians on the team
Although, at this point, I am too…
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Won’t deny it, yes.
Still bitter.
Might have to adopt the Devils next year if Kovy signs there.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
and if he signs with the Kings, will you adopt them?
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
Not after they told Frolov to f*** off.
I also tend to hate Kopitar and Smyth, so that’s never happening.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Rofl…just call him Hjalmarssonov, and itll all be ok :-P
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
whoa thats amazing!
LOL
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Very good point.
What if Chicago turns around and throws one at Seto?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
if they do
that’s business. DW has to be aware of that as a possible response. Nasty move? Maybe. Valid? Yep.
resident cartoonist @CouchTarts Lightning is seven times as hot as the surface of the sun.
That’s still not as hot as Douglas Murray. -mymclife
"No, That's Not General Malaise, It's NHL Playoff Fever." Real Fake Sports
Let them throw one
If it’s reasonable, we match. If it’s unreasonable, walk away with slightly lower draft picks.
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
I doubt it. Remember how Clowe didn’t sign his first big contract till I think mid-August?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
He’ll be a Shark next season.
..:Fear The Fin:..
The artist formerly known as cyoung
by OtherKid on Jul 9, 2010 10:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He'll be a damn
good Shark next year too.
Any team
That signed the Hossa, Campbell and Huet contracts deserves a bit of cap hell. Besides, they have The Most Holy Grail to console themselves with.
Poach Brent Seabrook next!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Nah
Taking advantage? Yes. Creating a chance to secure a to-4 YOUNG dman to further anchor the Blue Line? Yes. Also putting other Chicago talent at risk at the same time? Yes.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
FWIW, just got this text from my buddy who’s a die hard Blackhawks fan -
I like him a lot. Good #3 dman. Young, but makes few mistakes. Defensive minded, won’t score much, which is fine. Pretty good hitter for his size. Good attitude.
If he says so, I’m sold.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
sounds a lot like doug murray
sans the size part
by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
better skater too.
but doesn’t have a cool nickname that we’re aware of.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
What kind of a nickname is that?
We’ll have to think of something better.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Nicky H
Cap Killah
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Hjalmarsson is The Hammer…which, if you ask me, is pretty ok…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
nah it's just HAMMER!
just like that too.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
it’s “like HAMMER” spoken with a thick accent..
“I am like hammer.”
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
bwahahaha bad ass.
like ED said down there Crank and Hammer on the same line….that’d be some awesome shit.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
The Hammer and Crankshaft pairing could be awesome…
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
whoa my mind is blown.....
that would just bring a tear to everyone’s eyes…beautiful.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL!
awww please don’t throw me into the Boyler…oh wait…Please DO throw me into the Boyler. :P
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 12, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t make it up. You asked.
Personally I think it’s too much of a mouthful.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
HAmmer put Vlasic out of comission earlier this year. He’s a great player.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
So, safe to say you’re a fan of this potential signing?
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
TCY and I wrote about it three weeks ago, so yeah, I’m a huge fan. Swayed him on the thought that offer sheets are a plus too.
I’m flying right now, and will be ecstatic in a week if it goes through.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Just thought of something
We have a player with a pre-existing nickname of the HAMMER who might come and play for the SHARKS…
Hammerhead?
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
by PNK on Jul 9, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
YES!
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
By the by
Barely an hour, and already over a hundred comments. Are we starved for hockey or what?
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
To be fair, this is a pretty big deal if it goes through.
And yes, we are!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
ha ha … he really is pulling at those heart strings huh?
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
dhur
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Quick rosterbation.
Trade Huskins and we’re set, as long as we keep Leach on the Wooster Shuttle.
AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
FORWARDS
Dany Heatley ($7.500m) / Joe Thornton ($7.200m) / Patrick Marleau ($6.900m)
Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / * Devin Setoguchi ($3.400m)
Torrey Mitchell ($1.367m) / Logan Couture ($1.242m) / Jamie McGinn ($0.997m)
Scott Nichol ($0.760m) / Cameron MacIntyre ($0.600m) / Frazer McLaren ($0.543m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / * Hjalmarsson, Niklas ($3.500m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / Douglas Murray ($2.500m)
Niclas Wallin ($2.500m) / Jason Demers ($0.543m)
Jay Leach ($0.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Antero Niittymaki ($2.000m) / Thomas Greiss ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 21; CAP: $59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $0.328m
PAYROLL: $60.321m; BONUSES: $0.715m; CAP ROOM: $-0.206m
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
i would love nothing more than to trade huskins
by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
me too.
My second least favorite player last year
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
WHOA you kept CLOWIE
I like this.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah he kept clowe but moved him to center…
by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, so I didn't use the line generator beta. Sue me. ;]
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
oh whatever you kept him
you have my heart
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
AND MURRAY.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Grammar police here – just noticed it says “sings” and not “signs.”
Although the former might still be appropriate.
Fear The Fin = Man goes into cage... Cage goes into salsa... Shark's in the salsa... Our shark.
Psh, I noticed it too. I just felt like letting it live on. It shows how excited even TCY is…no time to spellcheck! Must put up FanShot!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Had to get it out there… shoot.
Fear the Fin: Sharing Joe Thornton's love of wooly mammoths since 2009.
by Matthew_Taylor on Jul 9, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuckin right!!!.....I still believe in DW!!
"I knew when my career was over. In 1965, my baseball card came out with no picture."
— Bob Uecker
And I turned 'Hammer' teal a few weeks back
Regardless of the outcome, I’m highly amused by this move. I didn’t think DW and the Sharks had it in them to throw down an offer sheet. Hope it works out.
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 9, 2010 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I know and it was swoonworthy
he looks amazing in teal and I can just see him just beating the crud out of everyone…go hammer.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Now, if they’re also willing & able to keep Crankshaft I’ll be a very happy Shark fan
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 9, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
yep
DW werk your magic!
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too. I’m very attached to Murrray.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
And it would awesome to run into the trio of Swedes at Ikea from time to time.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
we all love our big Swedes like DW does don't we.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe try to grab Kubina now?
Our defense lacks an offensive punch. I vote we try to grab another point man. Losing Rob Blakes slap shot really hurts our middle pairing since now Dan Boyle is our only defenseman with any real offensive prowess besides Demers who is solid from the point on the PP
by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 10:42 AM PDT reply actions
Kubina signed with TB
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Kubina just resigned with Tampa, so he’s not going anywhere.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I still hope DW trades for Kaberle.
Boyle-Hjalmarsson
Kaberle-Vlasic
Demers-Wallin
Not too bad, eh?
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
That sounds beautiful
Defensive problems solved
by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
who would we give up for Kaberle? Murray and Huskins? would that work? or would it involve giving up Clowe/Seto?
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Clowe would have to be involved…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
They’re going to want a forward. They have 8 defensemen under contract I believe.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Yup. Burke loves his D-men.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 9, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Clowe.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
I would take Clowe for Kaberle in a second.
I’d prefer Seto though.
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 9, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s annoying because I think we can afford to lose Seto before Clowe, but it’d be Clowe if that trade happened.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
The trick isn't trading for Kaberle... the trick is keeping him.
The guy has a hard-on for T.O. like I’ve never seen before. It makes me guilty for wanting him gone (since he actually has value and we have like 1000 d-men)
Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Jul 9, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the look of that blueline.
It takes a big man to cry and it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jamie Baker
Proud member of the "Keep Marleau Forever" Club
by Lurker Shark on Jul 9, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s the puck mover. If we pick up HAmmer I’m infinitely less oppossed to Kabs.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
Also, it introduces another possible nickname: Meatball.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
we’ve already got Pickles so yes Meatball I like.
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
and Hamburgers
"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.
by SwisherThresher on Jul 9, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
A Jumbo Heated Patty with Pickles and Meatballs?
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
yum
:)
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Calm down guys
He’s not ours just yet.
This whole RFA thing is a crazy new type of free agency fun.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
can ya let us live it for a few more minutes
before reality comes crashing down on us? :(
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, let us dream!
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
yeah we’re getting very excited here….!#$%^!
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Quick question about offer sheets
If Chicago matches our offer, how does that work?
Do they have to offer him the EXACT deal we gave him? Do the years and salary each year have to match exactly? Or is it more of the cap hit has to match?
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Yes. Exact same deal, with NTC’s, bonuses etc. (not that the contract involved necessarily contains these things).
Yeah and
uh hahahaha Good luck with that Bowman! Gotcha.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
What I think this offer sheet also means is that we won’t see any more moves from DW for at least seven more days.
Or can Chicago come out today and say they matched the offer sheet?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Precisely what I told TCY. There’s no way he makes another deal with this still up in the air, as Chicago matching the offer could turn things sour rather quickly.
My guess is that then Chicago will take their sweet time responding.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
HAHA
those guys over on the Hawks blog are PISSED!
my heart is smiling
by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
oh you just made my day even better – haha!!!!!!!!!!!
by JenLovesHockey on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
It's like that guy on Cheers antagonizing Woody...
“I’m going to steal your girlfriend!” Screw em…they got their cup…time to pay the piper.
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Can't blame them though
Hjalmarsson was one of the guys they needed to keep this summer.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
Another Nickname for the dude is Jelly
Apparently Versteeg couldnt pronounce Hammer, so started calling him Jelly.
"iaT"S FUCKINGE LIEK CONICO DO MAYO!!!!!111"
Mr. K. 5/5/2009
If we DO sign Hjammer...
and he’s paired w/ Vlasic, it’d be Pickles and Jelly?
by Quid Pro Clowe on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d bet money he’s paired with Boyle.
Then Pickles and whoever we get to be our 2nd puck mover.
then whoever is left on the 3rd pair.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
That’s where my money is…assuming this all actually happens.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t know the rules.
If Chi matches, can San Jose throw another offer for him?
Or is this a one-time thing only?
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I think if Chicago matched, Hjalmarsson will have his contract, and therefore be off the market.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooh...FTF Staff with the rare comment.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
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An “offer sheet” differs from a standard contract only in that it can be matched by the team holding RFA rights. This is his contract going into next year. The only question that remains is who is going to pay this salary, Chicago or San Jose.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
win win for us
either we get hammer or the hawks have to overpay to keep them. I’ve been looking thru their blog and it looks like they were hoping to sign him for $2.5 mill/season
by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah, that's more 'aging bottom-pairing defenseman' -type money
amirite?
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by SwisherThresher on Jul 9, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Sharks successfully poach Hjalmarsson, I believe this will be only the second time this has happened since the lockout (Penner being the only other one).
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
according to WTC
this is the first time San Jose has ever made an offer to an RFA
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Considering it's only happened like 7 times
Since the CBA created the possibility, I’m not shocked.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Interesting comments on Chicago’s blogs. They’re certain that Hawks will match and would rather have him than Niemi.
A bit surprising about Niemi.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
They know Niemi is overrated. Their defense was their goalie.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
by Evilducks on Jul 9, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We mostly judge Niemi by that WCF.
He’s been less than spectacular in other series.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
Not all year.
The guy had 3-4 shutouts in his first 8 starts or so.
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
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true he had a hot start and then had a long string with a sub .900 save %
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah just finished reading their comments … they aren’t happy with us right now … (big smiles)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
They should just go look at pictures of their Stanley Cup and shut the fuck up.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
totally.
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather have Hjalmarsson than Niemi. Niemi is terrible…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
i’d rather have an extra gatorade cooler than Niemi
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really
If the era of the big money goaltender is over, why would you pay Niemi big bucks? In reading any of SCH’s pieces, they know that Duncan Keith is their MVP. Those guys know a thing or two about defense. As much as I like the move, I don’t see Chicago letting Hammer walk.
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I think they match also…but it’s fun to watch them squirm…and it’s nice to see DW trying something. At least we know he’s definately trying to upgrade the D now…
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Hawk’s fans would boo Hjalmarsson every time he touched the puck…
Here's my twitter
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as long as we boo campbell
they would chose hammer
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Given they know we boo Campbell every time he touches the puck?
Of course.
"Playing Detroit in the playoffs is like paying your taxes. You either pay now or pay later." - Suisun Dan
we love Hammer
why would we boo him because Shark fans like to boo a player they rented for a few months?
Not in a million years
and probably longer since he helped win us the Cup. He’s seems to be a great kid on and off the ice. Any team would be lucky to have him.
Plus, we don’t understand the booing of a rental UFA player like Campbell (no matter how many times you try to explain it).
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 10, 2010 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions
MAN THOSE CHICAGO FANS ARE PISSED. THEY THINK WE DID THIS BECAUSE OF LOSING CAMPBELL A FEW YEARS BACK. JUST GO THEIR WEB SITE AND READ THEIR COMMENTS. CHICAGO IS IN PANIC MODE RIGHT NOW AND I F U ING LOVE IT.
Yo
I think your Caps Lock key is broken.
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by Nael M. on Jul 9, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks to GoLG, I read every thing in CAPS as Ray Ratto
"Shave it, and you will score." - Randy Hahn
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I was confused by the lack of food references… especially considering the Jelly nickname!
GREAT MOVE BY THE SHARKS! I, RAY RATTO WOULD MUCH JELLY ALL DAY LONG AND TWICE ON SUNDAYS!
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I'M RAY RATTO
GIVE ME SWEDISH MEATBALLS COVERED IN JELLY!
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...and pork chops, baby. With a side order of fries.
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Bleeding teal since 1997
LOL me too!
High sticking, tripping, slashing, spearing, charging, hooking, fighting, unsportsmanlike conduct, interference, roughing… everything else is just figure skating.
- Anonymous
"My hope is that we put him (Couture) on a line with Seto and CloweThen you get the Coochy-Goochy-Clowe line." - Cerise
by mssjsclowie29 on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
His reply link is broken too!
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Chicago trouble
Let me get this right… Since Niemi filed for arbitration, no matter what, he will be a Hawk next year. Either he re-signs with the Hawks or the judge sets his salary (but he remains a Hawk). The Hawks cannot decide between Niemi and Hammer, they have to chose Niemi. It seems as if the cards are in Wilson’s hands here.
Goc went to arbitration didn’t he? And then never signed here.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I don't think that's right
If they can’t agree on a number, Niemi becomes a UFA. I think…
Someone who knows the CBA should answer this question…
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
What will be the worst kind of an outcome is the Hawks deciding they want to stick with Hammer, let Niemi walk, and sign Turco.
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
And yet
It’s not worse than if we’d done nothing. There’s only upside in this move, other than pissing off the hawks.
They’d still have to move salary to sign Hammer’s offersheet and then come to an agreement with Turco. Not that the Sharks will be in on any salary moving trades with Chicago now, but it’s not like they’d trade in the West anyways. They’re still in trouble either way…this just forces their hand a bit.
Esta noche nosotros cenamos Tortugas
Así que bueno, ellos serán
Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 9, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure you let Niemi walk anyway.
Just be glad this is happening after Nabby left for Russia.
Letting Niemi walk and letting Nabby play behind Keith, Seabrook and Hammer? Good night. Say hello to back to backs…
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
And if he was, he would have done so in SJ.
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"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
We weren't going to offer him a contract at all though
It’s a recession, you take what work you can
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Sharks never gave any offers to Nabby.
True – if Hawks gave him a one year offer, for say, $3M, who knows what Nabby would have done.
Especially seeing how the core of Blackhawks are all coming back next year – Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, etc..
Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.
I’m very glad the hawks didn’t do that.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jul 9, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure the front office knew the ballpark estimates for what Nabby would take though.
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"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
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Ballsy move from Wilson here, but this is a little excessive for a 4D. He’s making what Ryan Suter is for the next two years, and they’re on different planets.
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Hjalmarsson is a great young player, in a year or two i think his contract will be a steal. He’s definitely got potential to be a top 2 guy imo.
Certainly entitled to your own opinion, but I don’t see it. Even here, he’ll play 3D to Vlasic and Boyle. 3.5m for a 3D is still pricey, IMO.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 9, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
We’re use to overpaying for our 3D. That’s basically Blake money, and he’s replacing Blake.
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Except not as good.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 9, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know. 3.5 for a top 4 guy is fairly common through the NHL. He could be as good as twilight Blake, certainly better than anything we have now.
Nashville is a bad comparison for salary in the same way that Soupy is a bad comparison for salary. Nashville either underpays their players or lets them walk.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Exactly
what I was thinking. 3.5 is right in the ballpark for a top 4 on a GOOD team…
by rumpledforeskin on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Good call. With the current state of the Sharks D I think paying a little extra to poach the Hammer is justified anyway.
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
by sharks in oc on Jul 9, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
With us
He’s probably a 2D. Vlasic and Boyle will never be on the same pairing. Boyle is our best offensive defenseman, but Vlasic is our shutdown man. He needs a stay at home partner. In theory, Hammer could be that guy, which makes him a 2D for us. And 3.5 for 4 PRIME years is about what you pay these days I think.
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I don’t think 3.5 mil is that pricey for a very solid 3rd defenseman. I mean Brian Campbell is 7.1 million as a 3rd defenseman lool.
If you’re comparing someone’s salary to Soupy; you’ve got problems. ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jul 9, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Although DW today referred to Hjalmarsson as the 3rd defenseman for the Hawks—a subtle little shot at Campbell?
That’s what i thought at first, but i think he was rating them by their ice times, and Hjalmarsson is actually number 3rd in time on ice per game for the Hawks.
OMG THIS IS AWESOME NEWS
No wayyy Chicago can match that. They’d be shooting themselves in the foot if they did.
Holy crap last night while i was laying in bed (lol) and i seriously said to myself, “holy crap, i forgot about Hjalmarsson. He’s still unsigned! If there was ever a time for DW to offersheet a player it’s RIGHT NOW with Hjalmarsson. Chicago can’t afford to match a 3+ million dollar offer; but I dunno if DW is willing to make use of offersheets…sigh.”
I think they match it, it’s just going to be fun watching them get screwed even more.
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People at SCH
Think the hawks can match. They’ll have to ditch Niemi, which they seem to be accepting.
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