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A look at what Jamal Mayers brings to San Jose

As everyone is fully aware of at this point, Jamal Mayers inked a one-year deal with San Jose today. The contract will pay him $600,000, which is by no means a burden on the Sharks remaining cap space, and slots him into a plugger role with the likes of Scott Nichol on the Sharks fourth line next season.

Mayers had twelve goals back in 07-08 with the St. Louis Blues, and while I don't think that should be an expectation for the Sharks fanbase heading into the year, he's had some decent scoring pop throughout his career and could improve on the three goals he scored last season. If he doesn't it probably won't matter considering that's not what he's being brought in to do, but his shooting percentages were very low compared to his career average. I'm going to say he scores six goals next season due to nothing other than a gut feeling and a glass of Black Label. He'll probably score two.

Mayers supposedly can kill some penalties too, which is a nice bonus for a guy on the bottom line. He led all Blues forwards in shorthanded time during 07-08 (3:36 per game), but saw his totals dwindled under the always oh so effervescent Ron Wilson in Toronto (1:46 in 08-09, 0:51 in 09-10). Whether that means he forgot how to kill penalties, was mismanaged by Wilson, or just got older and lost a step will be answered this season I guess, but here's a quick synopsis based on his last three years-- he's pretty freaking terrible at it. Maybe McLellan taps him every once in awhile if he's hurting for bodies out there, but around 30 seconds a night is probably tops for what one can reasonably expect considering his numbers. He's not going to provide much value in this department, if any at all.

Mayers can also fight. Whatever. It's always fun to watch and all, but in a day and age where the instigator penalty exists, I really don't know how much value this aspect of his game actually brings to the table. At any rate, you can be rest assured that if Steve Ott takes a run at Marleau and knocks him on his keister Mayers will be there to fight some other troglodyte and suddenly everything will be all squared away.

His qualcomp numbers are basically what you would expect from a fourth line plugger-- he saw the soft minutes on a night by night basis, but didn't get outscored compared to the rest of his teammates last season which is a somewhat of a plus. There's not a lot here that screams out at me as Mayers being a defensive stalwart , but here are the relevant advanced stats I always like to put into nifty tables:


Jamal Mayers

Year
Team GP Qualcomp GFON/60 GAON/60 GFOFF/60 GAOFF/60PK TOI PK GAON/60 PK GAOFF/60
07-08 STL
80
0.059
1.87
3.16
2.50
2.32
3:36
6.11
3.59
08-09
TOR
71
-0.027
1.88
2.57
2.75
2.95
1:46
11.70
8.69
09-10 TOR, CGY
71
-0.069
1.74
2.05
2.54
2.75
0:51
19.42
8.30

God forbid he sees any type of tough minutes-- he led all Blues forward in quality of competition during 07-08 and got murdered. In Toronto and Calgary he was plugged into a role more suiting of him (i.e. going up against the softies), and while he was still in the minus, he gave up less goals on the ice when compared to his teammates. Taking his quality of competition numbers into consideration though, it's hard to say that giving up less goals than his teammates is really that big of an accomplishment.

Again, he's pretty horrendous on the kill. Second to last in St. Louis in terms of goals against, and equally as bad in Toronto. Not the guy I was talking about last week when I looked at the Sharks need for a penalty killing forward this offseason.

Speaking of special teams, Mayers is going to hurt the Sharks here as well unless he cleans up his game. Not including fighting majors, Mayers took 17 penalties compared to drawing 5 last season, 11 taken compared to 5 drawn in 08-09, and 17 taken compared to 5 drawn in 07-08.

For those keeping count, that is 45 taken and 16 drawn over the last three seasons. Not exactly what you want to see out of a fourth liner seeing limited minutes against soft competition.

There is also the fact that Darryl Sutter traded for him. A good back of the envelope analysis I like to use when looking at a player is this-- if Sutter traded for him, you probably don't want the guy. There's been way too many insane signings and transactions up north in Calgary lately, so that should raise a red flag for anyone who is planning on picking up a Mayers jersey before the season begins.

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I will hunt you down blogger boy.

In all seriousness though, Mayers doesn't change much for the Sharks. He's really not that good of a player (read: he really doesn't have much value at all) , and I'd much prefer to see more of Frazer McLaren on the fourth line considering his performance last year in San Jose, but you get what you pay for, and the Sharks are paying peanuts for his services. It's another roster spot that could have been filled by a young guy, but hey, maybe upper management knows something I don't about how those guys are developing (read: they definitely have a better grasp on prospects than I do).

Either way, not a big fan of this signing. Mayers doesn't bring much to the table outside of anything the organization already has in the pipeline, and I don't expect him to make any noticeable contribution to the team's quest to win a Stanley Cup. At best, Doug Wilson broke even today.

 

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Good write-up

A bit much text for “not caring” eh? :-)
Just kidding! He’s not that good, but he’s not get Boogard money either, so as you said…it’s all good! DEFENSEMAN TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =D

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by Dmitriy on Aug 3, 2010 11:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m with you here. I’m not a big fan of a signing like this when this role could easily be filled internally by Frazer McLaren, who looked rather decent in that role in limited time last year. Why is the FO so adverse to giving the kiddos an extended look?

But whatevs, this won’t be the signing that makes or breaks our Cup chances…and who knows, maybe he’ll be a pleasant surprise.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 3, 2010 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm actually very perturbed by the PK numbers

Considering Mayers is basically coming in to Jed Ortmeyer’s spot, that’s even worse. If anything, Mayers appears to be Brad Staubitz, plus 20 years.

I’m hoping that what the Blues fans who came on here said about him is accurate: that he never took a game off.

I really question why he is more deserving of a contract than Jed Ortmeyer, save that Jed has injury issues.

Oh well. Maybe this is the year he turns it around.

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by ElvisVF101 on Aug 3, 2010 11:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Safe to assume at this point that McLellan and Wilson must be thinking of giving McGinn and Mitchell significantly more PK time. Whether or not that’s a good idea is another question. I have modestly high hopes for McGinn, actually—I think his game could work well on the PK in time.

by Timorous Me on Aug 4, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like how you already hve Mitchell on the roster. ;-)

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAVE, even.

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torrey

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by Matthew_Taylor on Aug 4, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah—T. Mitchell. I could go for seeing that on the back of a jersey.

by Timorous Me on Aug 4, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was joking ---> ;-)

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t worry about his PK numbers so much. Toskala was epically horrible on the PK last year, he made everyone look bad.

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by Karina on Aug 4, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tell us how you really feel about this one...

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by Evilducks on Aug 4, 2010 12:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I am just excited for

tomorrow morning to see what kind of snide shit Puck Daddy comes up with to announce the signing in the morning write-up.

Probably something along the lines of:

“The San Jose Sharks have signed Big Ticket free agent Jamal Mayers to help in their yearly quest to choke in the chokey choke finals….choke”

Seems to be on par with what we would normally get LOL.

Dude, lemme getchur keys.

by OnDubs on Aug 4, 2010 12:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Of course I meant the "Chokey choke playoffs. We have never been to the Chokey choke finals, as I’m sure we would have been reminded.

Dude, lemme getchur keys.

by OnDubs on Aug 4, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry for the cynicism, the offseason is getting to me.

Dude, lemme getchur keys.

by OnDubs on Aug 4, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow, I thought I was bitter

I wouldn’t expect any more than a blurb in the news section about this signing.

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by Evilducks on Aug 4, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol i just meant inside the daily blog post with news about every other team.

Dude, lemme getchur keys.

by OnDubs on Aug 4, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s only on Mondays, and by Ryan Lambert. Nobody likes Lambert – if you go to his twitter page, his background is a screenshot of when Dan Ellis told him off. And when you have a guy like Ellis mad at you, you’re really disliked.

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by mymclife on Aug 4, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, we made it to the “chokey finals,” unfortunately not the “chokey choke finals.”
MOVING UP IN THE WORLD FTW ;)

by ninakix on Aug 4, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

I dunno why I still get so down on how the media treats the Sharks…like I said the offseason must be getting to me, because during the season when were kickin ass and takin wins, it couldn’t bother me less.

Dude, lemme getchur keys.

by OnDubs on Aug 4, 2010 12:36 AM PDT reply actions  

.

all this posting has made me tired…I shall retire and hopefully awake to some great Sharks news to shake off the post season blues.

Dude, lemme getchur keys.

by OnDubs on Aug 4, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Before today, the only thing I knew about Mayers was that he was a 78 in NHL 10. Sounds like that might be a bit high for him. haha

I’ll give DW the benefit of the doubt. Coming into last year, I didn’t like Jed Ortmeyer, and yet he became one of my favorite Sharks. Besides, for that kind of money, he could even be a healthy scratch with McLaren playing 4th line.

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by jwizzle241 on Aug 4, 2010 4:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Coming into last year, I didn’t like Jed Ortmeyer, and yet he became one of my favorite Sharks.

That’s the only reason I’m withholding any detailed judgment on Mayers. Both Ortmeyer and Nichol weren’t exactly given a warm welcome when they were signed last offseason, and now we’re cheering Nichol being re-signed and mourning Ortmeyer being let go.

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by Nael M. on Aug 4, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

To further add to my point...

Reaction to Nichol signing. We didn’t exactly warm up to him then – now we’re falling over each other to praise how gritty he is.

Ortmeyer signing reaction, or rather lack thereof. There was more attention on the Vesce and Helminen signings in the same post.

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by Nael M. on Aug 4, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the lack of attention the Ortmeyer signing got was because the Sharks initially listed Helminen on the NHL roster and Ortmeyer on the AHL, so we reacted as such. It wasn’t until a week or so later that they fixed it.

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by mymclife on Aug 4, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember in camp everybody thought Hinote or Dandeneaux would make the team over him as well.

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by Evilducks on Aug 4, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the bright side...

He was the best faceoff guy on both the Leafs and the Flames. I’m guessing that played a large part in his signing. Hopefully he steps his game up and surprises us.

by Khaaz on Aug 4, 2010 5:12 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s another roster spot that could have been filled by a young guy, but hey, maybe upper management knows something I don’t about how those guys are developing (read: they definitely have a better grasp on prospects than I do).

What? UNpossible!

As always I shall wait until I see him play before passing judgement. But hey, price is pretty good. We’ll always have that.

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by CTGray on Aug 4, 2010 7:46 AM PDT reply actions  

You know, McLaren is around $50K cheaper ;)

But I might be biased, because he has an awesome first name. I did hear that he forgot how to play hockey in Worcester after he was sent down, so that’s probably why DW is a bit hesitant on relying on him.

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by mymclife on Aug 4, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Frazer!

perhaps this is a show of confidence in said prospects…just bring in a healthy scratch body, with little impact on cap, just in case and give the youngins a run.

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by Aero72 on Aug 4, 2010 7:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Jamal Mayers

All my friends at work are all Die Hard Maple Leaf Fans. Im the only Shark fan and when I told my friends we got Jamal Mayers…they all started laughing and said "He’s not very good, thats why they traded him to Calgary.

by stingfeyd on Aug 4, 2010 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd love to say I disagree

But I can’t. He sucked for us. Bad. Hopefully he can do better with you guys.

Can’t complain about that pricetag though.

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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 4, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worst case we waive him and bring up a kid that would have filled that position anyway (or maybe best case if you agree with a lot of the thinking around here).

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by Evilducks on Aug 4, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the analysis

I learned a lot about him reading that. Two things you didn’t address that may have factored into Doug’s decision are hits and faceoffs. Mayers has been a 56.6% faceoff guy the past 3 years and we all know that’s been a higher priority lately. I didn’t spend much time looking at hitting stats so this is pure conjecture, but maybe Doug saw something there he liked. Possibly he hits a lot or maybe he just hits well (ie: hard and at the right times).

by peanut gallery on Aug 4, 2010 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Wasn't Malhotra on the scrap heap...

last year and signed for $600k? Maybe Doug thinks there’s another rabbit in his hat.

by HitThePost on Aug 4, 2010 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

No, Malhotra signed for us for way under market value because he wanted a shot at the Cup. He was offered multi year multi million dollar contracts that he turned down to instead play with us for cheap…

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by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 4, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it like 4 years, $2M per year from Atlanta?

But now he gets more money with an NTC on a contender, so I think things worked out pretty well for him.

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by mymclife on Aug 4, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Y'all just had to remind me Manny's not returning, didn't you :/

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but just think of how many Jamal Mayerses you could buy for the price of one Manny Malhotra this year!

by Timorous Me on Aug 4, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jamal Mayers is NOT Manny Malhotra

And while 600K is not a ton of money, considering how close we lived to the edge of the cap last season this is a somewhat baffling signing to me. Sure seems like we get nothing we need with Mayers and now have 600k less to offer a top-3 defenseman or third line center.

by SharkFanSB on Aug 4, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, this is mostly where I am on this signing. Seems superfluous, and our money couldda been better spent elsewhere. But I’m not going to bag on a 600k signing too much until i see for myself how useless or useful he really is.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 4, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.
and now have 600k less to offer a top-3 defenseman or third line center.

Whoever plays on the 4th line is gonna get paid something and depending on who it is, it might cost more (like Ferriero or Mashinter for instance).

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by idunno723 on Aug 4, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like you said, we didn’t lose any cap space. If he’s on the 4th line then he’s getting paid nearly the minimum for that spot. Somebody has to play that spot, so if anything we may have gained money.

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by Evilducks on Aug 4, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not Even Close

Mayers is a tough guy exclusively. Malhotra is a great faceoff guy and can score, Mayers does none of that. Weird signing.

by The Sear on Aug 4, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check his faceoff numbers again (read: see Khaaz's post)

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

25 comments and no one has mentioned the most obvious thing Mayers brings to the Sharks?

EYEBROWS! With him and Marleau, no one can stop us!

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by Megalodon on Aug 4, 2010 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I can back that one up.

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too. I’m going to have to go to the costumes shop and buy giant stick-on eyebrows for the game this year.

by ninakix on Aug 4, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's an awesome idea.

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by jwizzle241 on Aug 4, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget about Boyle.

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by jwizzle241 on Aug 4, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tough Guy

The only thing that Mayers brings to the table is toughness. We needed some of that against Chicago in the playoffs. He will take on the other teams tough guy and thats about all he brings to the table.

by The Sear on Aug 4, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

The only "tough guy" we need be concerned with on CHI is now buried in the Eastern Conference at Atlanta...

…and 8 of his mates are scattered 4 ways from the windy city. CHI may not be dead, but it’s nowhere near where it was with last years Capocalypse team.

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is to replace Shelley/Staubitz

4th line, borderline goon. 5 minutes/game… mainly for the Duck games.

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by ToddCommish on Aug 4, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

More speed and skill than those guys, especially Staubitz. Unfortunately, just like Brad, Jamal’s got the propensity for taking stupid penalties. Hopefully not as many and not at such bad times, though.

by Timorous Me on Aug 4, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still say if someone is only going to play 5 minutes, the team is probably better off dressing someone else. I don’t like this at all.

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by sharks in oc on Aug 4, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I’m part of the minority that is a fan of this move.

We just added toughness, physicality and some faceoff skill to our fourth line. All things we needed, and at the right price. He posted a 56.7 FO% last season — this is not a Malhotra replacement, but it definitely helps. Of his 23 minor penalties last year, a total of 5 were hooking/holding/interference — so he’s not taking bad penalties from lack of skating. Most of his penalties were roughing — I don’t mind that, in fact I welcome it.

This may be McLaren insurance, but it doesn’t have to be. Think about a McLaren – Nichol – Mayers 4th line. That would be one physical group, one I would enjoy seeing grind opposing forwards for 10 minutes a game.

Nichol, Malhotra and Ortmeyer all had arguably their best career year with us last season. There is something to say about playing for a contender, especially as a role player. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same thing happened with Mayers.

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Aug 4, 2010 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

With Nichol centering the 4th line, we don’t need FO help there. We need FO help on the 3rd line, which Mayers should be nowhere near…

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by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 4, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

As it stands right now, our third line is McGinn – Couture – Mitchell. Couture was +52% last year, albeit in a SSS of games. Torrey was about 50% from the dots in his full season before he went down to injury but was significantly worse last year.

I’m not overly concerned about it because the 3rd line would be decent at forechecking. If it became a liability I suppose you could see Nichol with Couture and McGinn and Torrey on the 4th line (with Mayers taking the majority of 4th line FOs).

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Aug 4, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s actually a fairly decent penalty record then. I wonder how many of those roughing calls were offsetting.

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by Evilducks on Aug 4, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is the extra scratch

 No need to have Ferriero or Dejardans or McLaren watching from the press box. If they aren’t in the lineup here, they should be in the lineup in Worchester. Mayers will be the Jay leach of the forwards. He will play once every 8-10 games, and if an injury crops up he will fill in until a youngster can come up and play NHL games. Good locker room guy, will be stoked to be on a winner even if he doesn’t get playing time. No harm in signing him. If he plays more than 25 games this year it would only be because he is having a career year.

by ruben398 on Aug 4, 2010 9:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

At last! We have a Bona-fide hero on the ice!


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Engage?

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

DNFW...he has phasers.

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by Noctro on Aug 4, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t stop staring….the eyebrows…

No man, let alone hockey player should pluck their eyebrows. If he had a unibrow I could understand but he shoulda stopped after chopping it in half.

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Aug 5, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

K. Let's try that again.


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Separated at birth?

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by Noctro on Aug 5, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the original article...

… but is there any chance this is a two-way contract? If he doesn’t manage to earn significant ice time here, it would be nice to have the option to save some money by sending him down to Worcester or even Stockton.

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by SharksPhan on Aug 5, 2010 12:24 AM PDT reply actions  

No, it’s a one way deal.

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by Evilducks on Aug 5, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

two way contracts don’t really have an impact on sending a player to the AHL. It dictates salary in the NHL vs. salary in the AHL. Even with a 2 way contract Mayers would have to clear waivers to go to the AHL team.

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by Karina on Aug 5, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

It does effect re-entry waivers though

If they’re on a 2 way deal and not making over a certain threshold then they don’t have to come through re-entry waivers (which I think everybody fears far more than waivers).

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by Evilducks on Aug 5, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is why a one-way contract for someone like Mike Moore (in 2011-12) matters. Well, plus he won’t have to risk making $60k a year in Worcester, even if he does end up playing there.

by Timorous Me on Aug 5, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOT a big fan of this

Mayers is old and a downgrade from ortmeyer

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by sanjosesharksfan on Aug 8, 2010 8:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I think he fits more in the Staubitz role.

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by Evilducks on Aug 9, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he's both.

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by jwizzle241 on Aug 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

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