Sharks Roster Tree
A thought came over me during the doldrums of the off-season. We all know the San Jose Sharks roster, and if we don't we can easily look it up on the umpteen sites that list NHL rosters (such as this one). But what isn't so readily available is how that roster came to be. Oh, you can see when contracts were signed and when the player was traded, but not all in the same place. And if you want to know if that player's pick was traded pre-draft? Forget it. Unfortunately, you can't just go to HockeyAncestry.com or something to figure out the lineage of the roster. And even if you could, it would probably cost you a monthly payment and send you a bunch of spam or something.
So, running with the idea of a roster lineage, I created a Sharks Roster Tree, using the roster as it is today. Click the below image to see it full-size (warning: it is a very, very large image).
[UPDATED 9/8/10 3:20pm]: Through the help of comments and email, I was able to fully complete the chart. And in a case of Murphy's Law, of course those picks that I didn't get were the most complicated of all.
No Sharks-drafted players before the 1995 draft affect the current roster. This could be a combination of things: fifteen years being a rather long time when talking about athletes, the lack of good players on the Sharks before 1995, and the NHL-wide trend of filling rosters with young and cheap draft picks.
After discovering a new branch, it turns out that Bob McGill, a defenseman acquired by the Sharks through the 1991 expansion draft, plays a role in acquiring Joe Thornton, Dan Boyle, and Dany Heatley. Other early-era Sharks that influence today's roster are Ken Hammond (a free agent signing before the first season) and Mike Craig; that is, the St. Louis Blues giving high draft picks to the Sharks so they wouldn't choose Craig in the expansion draft. The pick that eventually became Chris Pronger is the first Entry Draft pick/player that still affects the roster (and in more ways than one - playing against Pronger still is not very fun). The earliest Sharks-drafted players to affect the NHL roster are the 1995-drafted goalies: Vesa Toskala and Miikka Kiprusoff have produced Logan Couture and Marc-Edouard Vlasic, respectively.
The most productive round in the draft for acquiring roster players (through trading Sharks drafted in that round or trading the draft picks themsevles) is, predictably, the first round. Since 1993, eight of the Sharks' first round picks affect the current roster. The second-most productive round is, suprisingly, the fourth round, with six of the Sharks' picks since 1993 affecting the roster. From there, the most productive rounds are the second, fifth, sixth, seventh, third, eighth, and finally ninth.
While the players the Sharks drafted in the ultra-deep 2003 draft have not been as great as some would like, that draft is the most productive in terms of how many picks influence the roster today. Five picks out of a possible nine indirectly (or directly, in the case of Joe Pavelski) influence the roster through trades. Joe Pavelski, Logan Couture, Dan Boyle, and Dany Heatley all have their roots traced back to a draft pick in this round. 2007 is the second-most productive, with four draft picks influencing today's roster. However, the players that have been influenced by that round are Jamie McGinn, Kent Huskins, and Niclas Wallin, which is just a bit less impressive than 2003.
There are only four free agents on the current roster (Scott Nichol, Jamal Mayers, Antero Niittymaki, and Antti Niemi) and seven free agents on the tree, total (adding Ken Hammond, Tom Preissing and Josh Gorges). Thus, a large majority of the players that have played for the Sharks did not choose the to play for them initially, which is in line with the common perception that free agents aren't attracted to San Jose for various reasons.
Notable Branches:
Logan Couture
Josh Hennessy, drafted 43rd overall in the second round in 2003, and former free agent signing Tom Preissing were traded to Chicago for Mark Bell on July 10, 2006. Almost a year later, Vesa Toskala (originally drafted 90th overall in the fourth round in 1995) and Mark Bell were traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs on the first day of the 2007 NHL draft for Toronto's first, second, and fourth round picks in that draft. The Sharks subsequently traded Toronto's first and second round picks to St. Louis for their higher first round pick in that draft. Logan Couture was then selected with that pick.
One of the more noticable things about the genesis of Logan Couture is how many steps had to be taken for the Sharks to be in possession of St. Louis's first. The second is that of all the pieces traded, only Toskala and Hennessy were actually drafted and developed by the Sharks. Josh Hennessy has 1 point in 20 career NHL games and Toskala... well, the Toronto media has pretty much covered what has happened with Toskala. If you were to propose trading Vesa Toskala and Josh Hennessy for Logan Couture today, you would get laughed off of HF Boards. Yet, with a few steps in between, that is essentially what happened.
The Sharks traded their first, second, and seventh round picks to the Atlanta Thrashers to move up to eighth overall in the first round, drafting Devin Setoguchi with that pick.
This isn't notable so much as it is interesting to re-examine now, when you think about the players that were drafted with the picks the Sharks gave up. Well, maybe not players - Chad Denny was the second round pick, and he is currently playing in the ECHL, and the seventh rounder Myles Stoesz is a goon who was just promoted to the AHL this past season. But the player that was drafted with the Sharks' first round pick has been the subject of much recent rosterbation: Marc Staal.
So, the question is, essentially, Devin Setoguchi or Marc Staal? Both have their merits. Setoguchi has proven chemistry with both Thornton and Pavelski, and has already had a thirty goal season. He's one of the fastest forwards on the Sharks, and enthusiastically dishes out hits unlike most other Sharks not named Douglas Murray. Marc Staal is one of the best young shut-down defensemen in the NHL, with excellent stick work and skating ability, as has been documented here previously. Pairing him with Vlasic would be a thing of absolute beauty.
It really comes down to whether or not the Sharks need offense or defense more. At the time of the draft, offense was more of a need. At this juncture, it is obviously defense. But would the loss of Setoguchi hurt the Sharks more than Staal's defense helps? Personally, I would prefer Staal to Setoguchi on the roster as it is currently constructed simply because of the weak defense and the strength of the top six forwards, but it is very close. Tomorrow I might prefer Setoguchi, taking into account contracts (and lack thereof) and the speed that Setoguchi brings. Both can/would plug rather large holes on the Sharks, it's just a matter of whether you want the hole on the port side plugged or the hole on the starboard side.
But really, the Rangers aren't going to let Staal get away, so the point is probably moot.
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
Miikka Kiprusoff, drafted 116th overall in the fifth round of the 1995 draft, was traded to the Calgary Flames for a second round pick in 2005 on November 16, 2003. The Sharks drafted Marc-Edouard Vlasic with that pick.
This is one of those trades that initally seem like an absolute fleecing by one team, but eventually evens out. Kiprusoff was being overshadowed by Evgeni Nabokov and Vesa Toskala, who were performing better than he was at the time, and so the Sharks traded him because of lack of space in the system. He went on to win the Vezina that season, and backstop the Flames to the Stanley Cup Finals (beating the Sharks in the Western Conference Finals, no less). But then the Sharks drafted Vlasic in the 2005 draft, he made the team out of training camp, and has developed into one of the best young shut-down defensemen in the league. Meanwhile, Kiprusoff is on a long, expensive contract and his stats are trending down as he reaches his mid-thirties.
Initially it was a horrible trade, even if it was due to the Sharks' hand being forced with having too many good goalies. But now? It's a pretty even trade, with the potential to start tipping towards the Sharks as Vlasic plays out his career.
*Takes a deep breath*
Ken Hammond was signed by the newly-formed San Jose Sharks on August 9, 1991. Less than a year later, he was traded to the Vancouver Canucks for an eighth round pick in 1992. That pick and Bob McGill (who was claimed in the 1991 expansion draft from the Chicago Blackhawks) were traded to the Detroit Red Wings for Johan Garpenlov on March 9, 1992. On March 2, 1995, the Sharks traded Garpenlov to the Florida Panthers for a 1998 fifth round pick. Meanwhile, the Sharks traded the second overall pick in the 1993 draft (which eventually became Chris Pronger) to the Hartford Whalers on June 26, 1993 for the sixth overall pick in 1993, Sergei Makarov, a 1993 second round pick (Vlastimil Kroupa), and a 1993 third round pick. The Sharks chose Viktor Kozlov with that pick. Later, packaged with the aforementioned 1998 fifth round pick, the Sharks traded Viktor Kozlov to the Florida Panthers for David Lowry and their 1998 first round pick (which eventually became the first overall pick, Vincent Lecavalier) on November 13, 1997. Going back to the expansion draft, the St. Louis Blues traded the Sharks their 1991 second round pick and 1992 first round pick so the Sharks would not take goaltender Mike Craig on May 31, 1991. The Sharks took Andrei Narazov with that pick. On March 24, 1998, the Sharks packaged the Panthers' first round pick and Andrei Narazov to the Tampa Bay Lightning for Bryan Marchment, David Shaw, and Tampa Bay's first round pick in 1998 (which will eventually be the second overall pick, David Legwand). Jumping back a year, the Sharks traded Vlastimil Kroupa (who was part of the return for the Chris Pronger pick) to the New Jersey Devils on August 22, 1997 for a third round pick in the 1998 draft. At the 1998 draft, the Sharks traded that third round pick and Tampa Bay's first round pick to the Nashville Predators for their first and second round picks in the 1998 draft. The Sharks drafted Jonathan Cheechoo with the second round pick, and Brad Stuart with the first. On March 11, 2003, the Sharks traded Matt Bradley - a former fourth round pick in the 1996 draft - to the Penguins for Wayne Primeau. Finally, on November 30, 2005, the Sharks traded Marco Sturm (a 1996 first round pick), Brad Stuart, and Wayne Primeau to the Boston Bruins for Joe Thornton.
It's notable because the fact that the very last trade happened is still amazing. Also, because man that branch is long; it didn't seem like the Sharks, Lightning, Panthers, or Predators wanted to keep their first round picks. This branch is littered with all stars and future (or current) Hall of Famers, and yet the players that were actually traded for Joe Thornton were rather ordinary. It does make the trade seem less lopsided when taken in this context (I probably would rather have both Pronger and Lecavalier than Thornton alone).
On February 25, 2007, the Sharks traded undrafted free agent Josh Gorges and their own 2007 first round pick to the Montreal Canadiens for Craig Rivet and a fifth round pick in 2008. Over a year later, in response to the Dan Boyle trade, the Sharks traded Craig Rivet and their seventh round pick in 2010 to the Buffalo Sabres for Buffalo's second round picks in 2009 and 2010. On February 7, 2010, the Sharks traded Buffalo's 2010 second rounder for Niclas Wallin and a 2010 fifth round pick.
Of all the current Sharks roster players, the process of getting Wallin is the most involved, with nine players being somehow related to the acquisition of Wallin. While this is no longer the most complex by a long shot, that there are this many steps involved to get a borderline top 4 defenseman is a little disconcerting. Granted, the Sharks also acquired Julien Demers, William Wrenn, and Cody Ferriero without later trading them away (although Julien Demers was released by the Sharks earlier this summer).
For the overall return, a first, a seventh, and Josh Gorges seems like a bit of an overpayment. I admit, my opinion of Wallin is shaded because of his sub-par play while injured in the few months he was on the Sharks last season and the contract he received this season. However, the combination of players given up and the players gained likely equates to the black sheep branch on a family tree, or just the near-dead, slightly-rotting branch on an actual tree, as the assets that the Sharks received are not equal to the assets that they gave up.
NOTE: There are four draft picks that I was unable to find out how the Sharks acquired them: Nashville's first in 1998 (Brad Stuart), Nashville's second in 1998 (Jonathan Cheechoo), Calgary's second in 2003 (Matt Carle), and Columbus's second in 2006 (Jamie McGinn). If anyone can magically come up with what the trades were, please let me know so I can adjust the chart accordingly. Thanks to all those who commented and emailed me, now the chart is complete and I can rest easy.
63 comments
|
4 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Very interesting.
The Couture and Thornton branches, especially.
Shameless radio show plug. Also, here's my twitter.
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud founder of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Wow, awesome.
Fear the Fin: "I've always said that if you don't have the motivation within you... It's not Doug Wilson's job to motivate me. I've got motivation within myself, especially going through some of the experiences that I had last year." - Nick Petrecki
Whoa…nice work, man.
Drew Remenda would praise a bottle of child poison if it had a picture of Darryl Sutter on it.
Battle of California
Stuart/Cheechoo lineage
In 1998, SJ held the #2 overall pick and Nashville held the #3 overall. Nashville really wanted David Legwand, and the Sharks were less high on him. At the draft, the Sharks traded down to the #3 pick in exchange for Nashville’s 2nd overall (which the Sharks used on Brad Stuart) and 2nd round pick (which the Sharks used on Cheechoo). Stuart and Cheechoo for Legwand was always a good move, and when Stuart helped net Thornton and Cheechoo won the Rocket Richard, Nashville executives must have wanted to shoot themselves in the head.
More Stuart/Cheechoo lineage - Marchment, Nazarov, Lecavalier
I forgot to add — the reason that SJ held the #2 overall pick that year was because they had gotten it from Tampa Bay in the Marchment deal. On March 24, 1998, Todd Marchment, David Shaw, and Tampa’s 1st round pick (the #2 overall) were traded to San Jose for Andrei Nazarov and a 1st round pick the Sharks had gotten from Florida earlier.
To the horror of SJ fans, Florida won the draft lottery. Tampa Bay used that 1st overall pick to select Vincent Lecavalier. If SJ hadn’t sent Nazarov and Florida’s 1st rounder to Tampa for Marchment, Shaw, and Tampa’s 1st rounder, SJ would have selected LeCavalier with Florida’s 1st overall pick in 1998.
I looked up that draft lineage myself recently
And was pretty horrified.
The chance of having Lecavalier on the team creates some dampness in my pants.
but then, theoretically, we wouldn’t have gotten stuart to trade for thornton… wooh butterfly effect.
Sturm was really the key piece in that Thornton trade
I think Brad Stuart was a big part too, but I dont think the deal would have fell apart if Stuart was not drafted by the sharks.
I don’t think we would have been looking for a #1 center with Marleau and Lecavalier on the team.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
I think Lecavalier may have stamped Marleau's ticket out of town
before the Thornton trade. Especially with Marleau constantly being in Ronnie’s dog house.
BUT WHO KNOWS!
Half the time I think the GM’s must be dropping Peyote and getting BJ’s from Dippin’ Dots vendors
final Stuart/Cheechoo lineage -- Kozlov
So why did SJ have Florida’s 1998 first-round pick to trade to Tampa in the Marchment deal? Because they got it in the trade that sent Viktor Kozlov to Florida on November 13, 1997.
So — the earliest draft pick that affects the current roster is actually the selection of Viktor Kozlov 6th overall in the 1993 draft. To recap: Kozlov went to Florida in 1997 for Florida’s 1st. This pick was then traded to Tampa along with Andrei Nazarov for Marchment and Tampa’s #2 overall. That pick was then traded with Nashville at the draft for Nashville’s #3 overall and #29 overall picks which were used on Stuart and Cheechoo. Stuart was then used to acquire Thornton and Cheechoo was part of the Heatley deal.
One final note: SJ traded down to select Kozlov at the 1993 draft. We actually held the #2 overall pick and passed on Chris Pronger, Paul Kariya, and Rob Neidermeyer to trade down for Kozlov. So to end up with Heatley and Thornton, we passed on Pronger, Kariya, Neidermeyer, and (though we didn’t know it at the time) Lecavalier.
Question about Nazarov
One thing I haven’t been able to figure out is how SJ acquired the 10th overall pick they used on Nazarov in 1992. They used their own 1st-rounder (3rd overall) on Mike Rathje, so that 10th overall pick had to come from somewhere… anybody remember this?
Correction: Nazarov - 10th overall 1992 -- earliest draft pick affecting current roster
Andrei Nazarov (anybody else remember him head-butting someone in a fight in the early 1990s??), selected 10th overall in 1992, was the earliest draft pick affecting the current roster — not Kozlov.
Nazarov was part of the Marchment deal that gave us Tampa’s 2nd overall pick in 1998, which was traded to Nashville at the draft in exchange for the picks we used on Stuart and Cheechoo.
Thanks for all the info
And with all the history behind the Stuart and Cheechoo picks, I think the graphic is going to need to be a little wider. Wow.
Of course the few picks I couldn’t find end up being the most complicated, haha.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
You're welcome!
It was fun remembering all that and tracking down the details. Thanks for doing that awesome graphic!
way cool!!
Holy shit,how’d you find time to do that?It’s dudes like you that help spice up the offseason-THANKS!
The dude abides
Be cool to animals but F#CK PETA!
"They didnt quiet a building,they quieted a nation!"
--WJC,january 2010
by tealkegkilla on Sep 8, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Other pieces of ancestry
The Marchment above was Bryan not Todd Marchment.
The #1 in 92 used for Nazarov was part of the deal when we split with Minnesota.
The Calgary 2nd round in 2003 used for Carle was the result of trading a 3rd obtained from Colorado as part of trading Marchment to them (we also got a 5th which we then traded back to Colorado for Scott Parker) , our 5th and our 6th of that year.
The Columbus 2006 2nd used on McGinn was obtained by trading a 3rd that year (obtained from Phi in a trade for Dimitrakos) and our 4th round that year.
by Out in LeftField on Sep 8, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions
Thanks for correction
Thanks, LeftField — sorry for the brain cramp on Bryan Marchment.
I love it!
So Naz was a pick we got at the very beginning! I love finding out that the current roster can be traced all the way back to the split from Minnesota!
Sjsharks.com -> Team -> Sharks History
• Acquired a first round selection (third overall, D Brad Stuart) and second round selection (29th overall, RW Jonathan Cheechoo) in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft from Nashville in exchange for San Jose’s first round selection (second overall) and second round selection (85th overall) in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft.
SJ Sharks Team History
I think you will find that the 85th overall was in the 3rd round, not the second, unless there were 43 teams in the league at that point. It’s a small mistake. That 3rd was from NJ, which was obtained by us for Kroupa.
by Out in LeftField on Sep 8, 2010 9:46 AM PDT reply actions
Matt Carle pick lineage
Looks like the Sharks traded up to get the 2nd round 47th pick in 2003, sending their 6th (#143) and two other picks that i haven’t been able to find yet.
http://www.hockeynut.com/0304/round5.html
I also found an old SI report on the Sharks’ 2003 draft, that includes this tease:
“With one more trade of three lower picks, the Sharks got Calgary’s pick at 47th overall. They used it on defenseman Matt Carle, an Alaskan who played in a top American developmental league last season. "
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/news/2003/06/21/sharks_draft_ap/
Since he was traded for Brian Campbell, he’s not on here since that trade no longer affects the current roster.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
This is very cool
"The No. 1 thing (fans need to know): we’re going to do our damnedest to bring the Warriors to respectability on the basketball court." - Joe Lacob
Jamie McGinn lineage
Looking at the 2006 draft, I find that Columbus sent their 2nd round pick (#36) to the Sharks (Jamie McGinn), as we know.
I also find that the Columbus got the 85th pick (3rd round, Tommy Sestito) from San Jose via Philadelphia, and the 113rd pick (4th round, Ben Wright) directly from San Jose. So it’s possible that it was a simple “move up” deal.
Yeah, wow, we suck at drafting
/sarcasm
This is a very interesting project. You deserve a lot of credit.
I agree with the sentiments of several posters here. It’s really cool to see how far back in Sharks history some of these moves originate from.
It is also sad that some moves that involve big organization resources do end (Steve Bernier for Brian Campbell). It’s a nice way to try and evaluate on a long term basis how well we’ve done in terms of roster turnover. And being a very visual person, I like the tree.
Great work!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
The long going-back of this suggests that we seem to make a habit of really DOING things with the assets we have, and making sure the value we built doesn’t just “disappear.” It’d be interesting to look at how our chart compares to say, Detroit and, say, the Oilers.
please to be exiting my eyebrow parade, son. You appear to be raining on it. - CTGray
As a side note,
don’t some of these trades remind you of the story of the guy who traded a paperclip for a house?
please to be exiting my eyebrow parade, son. You appear to be raining on it. - CTGray
Thanks for all the help, everyone!
I’ve gotten all the former unknowns worked out, so now it’s just a question of putting it all together. Expect to see the finished version (which is looking to be about twice as wide as the current version) sometime this afternoon.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
This is pretty amazing. Thanks for doing this!
Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
Twitter! rmorse05
Nicholas G - slight change
I think you meant 85th pick as from Phila via SJ as was part of the package we gave Columbus – but you are correct, it was basically a move up
by Out in LeftField on Sep 8, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
You’re undoubtedly right; my source for that was Wikipedia, after all:
“Columbus Blue Jackets (from San Jose via Philadelphia)”
So, digging into the wiki page archive:
An earlier (6:53am, June 25, 2006) edit of the page shows McGinn as drafted by Columbus at #36, and Sestito taken at #85 by the Sharks, with the pick originally being Philadelphia’s. By about 3:45pm, they had fixed the Sestito entry, but still had McGinn as a Blue Jacket. They fixed Jamie’s entry a few minutes later.
So yeah, it does seem to verify that the pick was originally Philly’s, then SJ"s, then Columbus’.
:-)
nic
Awesome stuff mymclife, really enjoyed this.
"San Jose is where I want to be at the end of the day, and there's an opportunity now to make it there. It is where my heart is." - Jamie McGinn, 2/22/10
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
That’s some intense work. I still lament the Rivet trade – loved the guy. Sad that it turned into Wallin – didn’t realize it.
Personally, I think I would still have taken Seto over Staal. Yes, would be nice to have Staal for 2010/11, but without Seto, I don’t think we beat the Avalanche last spring (who scored that key OT goal in Game 2?). Where would this team be right now if they again failed in the first round? McLellan, DW – likely gone. Possibly Thornton, maybe even Marleau.. Would have been a very different team today. And there is a good chance we don’t beat Detroit in the next round either as Seto dished out a beauty of an assist on Thornton’s goal that tied the game 5 and turned things around back in our favor.
Of course maybe Staal shuts downs Buff in round 3, but that’s in a distance parallel universe.. I think we’ll still see 40+ goals seasons out of Seto.
Fear the Fin - where Russians are underappreciated.
The Rise of Dimitri Setoguchkin
As predicted by Ivano
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
bwahaha
That said, I do prefer Seto to Staal, for all my Staal rosterbation (shocker, I know). Staal’s a great player, but I think we’re likely to see some really great things from Seto, at least, I hope so.
please to be exiting my eyebrow parade, son. You appear to be raining on it. - CTGray
Joe Pavelski - 205th overall - Wow
And Gooch looks better in shirtless interviews than Staal so he gets the nod.
Pavs is a bullet you don't see coming
please to be exiting my eyebrow parade, son. You appear to be raining on it. - CTGray
Super awesome, Ann!
I can’t wait to get home and open the megafile!
Jon Casey fan since '84
Founder of Feel the Teal.
I have a Twitter Thing.
I had a feeling...
…that the Matt Carle branch would turn into a monster, when I started seeing Garpenlov’s name popping up in deals that, from the timing alone, looked significant.
Same with finding Ville Peltonen in there.
Thanks for tracking all this down!
and who would have thought...
…that turning over the rock that was Sestito would turn up my old fave Niko Dimitrakos?
And I’d have to say that Couture is well worth what turned out to be Hennessy, Preissing and Toskala.
Great work. I’m going to mount this in my cube to whet my appetite for hockey season. Right next to my Get Loud t-shirt that’s too big to serve as anything but decor.
..:Fear The Fin:..
by OtherKid on Sep 8, 2010 5:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
As well as all the towels I get from the Tank, I have the latest Sharks schedule and a Down Goes Brown Suspension Flow Chart.
This would be a nice addition too.
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
Haha, I had the DGB Suspension Flowchart up in my cube at work for a while. It was a nice touch.
"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
Tweet Tweet.
by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 8, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
I have that “Get Loud” shirt on the wall of my classroom!! That, my Sharks calendar (had to pull the Error pic tho for 2 months of Nabby), and the schedule in my Sharks corner. Which, of course, is clearly visible from my desk and/or podium.
Go Sharks!
And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."
this is clever..i wish we could do a ducks one…bravo
"Buenas Noches, amigos!"
-John Marston-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Sep 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT reply actions
Joffery Lupal
Would create an infinite loop and destroy the internets.
"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda
Oh god
I’m trying to imagine how I’d do the two Lupul trades, and now my head hurts. It’d probably be a much messier chart, that’s for certain.
American Heroes: Joe Pavelski, Buster Posey, David Backes
Proud member of the "Doug Wilson for Governor" Club
Fools and Sages
That’s a very educational and dizzying path to Lord Stanley chart. mymclife drops knowledge like it’s hot.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 9, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
Knowledge IS hot

They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
replace that with a picture of John Cusack or Joseph Gordon-Levitt and you’re solid.
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 9, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
What does Tommy in a bra have to do with science?
Shameless radio show plug. Also, here's my twitter.
"The last time I made a video in a hotel room…..very different than this." – Drew Remenda
Proud founder of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
Alyssa: This shirt has a big hole in the middle.
Tommy: Yeah, so?
Alyssa: So? My bra will show.
Tommy: Then don’t wear a bra.
SCIENCE!
"Reynolds struck out as many times as I did in high school, and I’m not talking about baseball." - Duane Kuiper.
Nate woulda had that.
by MonochromeGarden on Sep 9, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions

by 

























