2011-2012 San Jose Sharks Season Preview: Dan Boyle and Douglas Murray
With the 2011-2012 season set to begin on October 8th, Fear The Fin will be partying with Miss Cleo and previewing the Sharks roster in the weeks leading up to opening night. Today we continue with what is expected to be the Sharks first/second paring: Dan Boyle and Douglas Murray.
Every installment in the series can be found here. Enjoy.
Dan Boyle

Expected Role: Number One Defenseman, Power Play
To truly understand how much Boyle has meant to this franchise over the course of his last three seasons in teal, one only has to look at his stellar point totals (50+ points three years running) and gargantuan ice time totals. After two years where Sharks defenseman Dan Boyle finished in the top five amongst all NHL defenseman in ice time per game (2nd in 10-11, 4th in 09-10), Boyle's 35 year old legs may be getting a bit of a reprieve next season with the addition of Brent Burns and Colin White to the Sharks backend. Boyle has never been one to complain about how heavily he's been leaned on to backstop the San Jose blueline of course, but these decreased ice time numbers should help improve his effectiveness at both even strength and the power play.
Boyle's smooth skating and ability to quarterback the power play are the two biggest skills he brings to the team, and those numbers are bared out in his underlying numbers. Last season he was far and away the most productive Sharks blueliner with the man advantage, putting up 4.29 points per 60 minutes and coming in with a 5v4 plus/minus of 8.57 per 60 minutes-- those numbers dwarfed anything the rest of the backend could put together, proving that his abilities on the power play are second to one, whether it be in San Jose or across the entire NHL. An ability to carry the puck out of his own end and enter the offensive zone with ease definitely helps in this regard, as Boyle is one of the smoothest skaters in the League and can casually make opposing forwards miss in the neutral zone in order to lead the Sharks attack up the ice. He's extremely aggressive in the offensive zone and able to pinch up the boards effectively-- this can occasionally result in a missed read, but by and large, Boyle's hockey IQ and physical abilities end up helping the team more than hurting them.
The only drawback to Boyle's game is his play in his own end-- while by no means a slouch in the defensive zone, Boyle is subject to being beat by opposing forwards from time to time. His high quality of competition numbers (1st in 10-11) and larger than life ice time can explain this away to some degree, but his relative CORSI numbers (5th in 10-11) could stand to improve this season. With that being said however, Boyle still finished in the black at 5v5 play last year in terms of +/- differential, proving that despite his minor defensive faults he is able to hurt opposing teams with regularity.
The biggest question for Boyle heading into 2011-2012 is twofold. The first is whether or not he will see less time in all defensive situations, specifically on the penalty kill where he was second on the team in terms of ice time per game. With the addition of Brent Burns and Colin White, along with the steady defensive play of Marc-Edouard Vlasic and a progressing Jason Demers, we expect this to be the case. The second is whether this hypothetical decreased responsibility will effect him in a negative way-- some players, who are used to seeing so much ice time over the course of a year, can develop a rhythm to their game that adapts to the ice time and shift totals.
We don't expect the second to be a major issue, as a reduction in total ice time for Boyle should make him a more productive player especially at 35 years of age. With Brent Burns helping to shoulder the load on the power play, and Colin White taking a lot of PK minutes away from San Jose's top offensive defenseman, expect Boyle to be a finely tuned machine in 2011-2012 who is more effective and shows more jump as the season progresses.
Douglas Murray

Expected Role: Defensive Defenseman, A Seriously Physical Defensive Defenseman, Physical, Defenseman
Douglas Murray might not be the most gifted skater on the team, but what he lacks in end to end skating ability he more than makes up for with his ability to close on forwards quickly and overpower players with his sheer body mass and physical play. It's hard to keep count how many times an opposing forward has tried to take a run at a seemingly exposed Murray only to watch Murray toss him aside like a bag of soft potatoes. One of Murray's favorite ploys is to hold the puck until the last second, and right when body contact is about to be made, dish the puck to a teammate and send the opposing forward to the ice.
In his last three seasons with the Sharks Murray has improved immensely in all facets of his defensive game-- each year he seems to get beat less and less out wide, improves his outlet passes, and makes fewer bad reads in the neutral zone. Many compare him to Red Wings defenseman Niklas Kronwall due to their penchant for dishing out highlight reel hits, but very rarely will you see Murray jump up in the neutral zone and take himself out of the play. As a former student at Cornell University it's no surprise that Murray utilizes his mental game just as much as his physical one when playing the game of hockey, but the huge strides he's made as a player over the course of his career with the Sharks is still something that is commendable. He's developed into a quality number four defenseman, a progression that is as pleasant as it surprising considering his game was at a bottom pairing level only two years ago.
Last season Murray played against the second highest quality of competition on the Sharks blueline, but received easy faceoff assignments where he saw the highest amount of offensive zone starts on the entire team. Furthermore, his relative CORSI numbers mirrored that of Dan Boyle, as Murray finished second to last on the team only behind Niclas Wallin. Although we've heaped a lot of praise on Murray in this article, it should be noted that he's not built for the top pairing role San Jose utilized him last year-- although his chemistry with Boyle is undeniable and should not be changed, look for Vlasic-Burns to take the tougher assignments this season and help put Boyle and Murray into more fortuitous situations in 11-12.
The biggest question for Murray heading into 2011-2012 is whether or not he can continue to progress in his game and further improve his defensive positioning. If Murray can shore up some of his errors and improve on where he stood last season, the Sharks will be mighty pleased with how well he's progressed since being picked in the 8th round of the 1999 NHL Entry Draft.
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I wanna be Douglas Murray when I grow up.
by meetyourmako on Oct 5, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Boyle's minutes
Not so sure they’ll be cut back much…these are quotes from McLellan from yesterday:
“We’re not going to cut Danny’s minutes back. We’ll monitor them,” McLellan said of Boyle, whose 26:14 average ice time was second highest in the NHL last season. "He plays better when he plays a lot.
“Will he be at 27 minutes a night?” the coach continued. “Probably not, but he’s going to get well into the 20s and there will be nights where he plays more than he did last year.”
McLellan indicated that Boyle isn’t surrendering his leadership role.
“It’s his defense. He’s the guy in charge,” McLellan said. “He knows that. Because Brent came in doesn’t mean Danny Boyle’s going to take a back seat. That’s not how it works. The pecking order is well-established, and we’ll go from there.”
Top defensemen get well into the 20’s. Boyle’s problem was that he was getting too close to the 30’s. His minutes will drop, but he’ll still play the minutes that are expected of a 1-2 guy.
McLellan just doesn’t want to offend the hard working Boyle, me thinks.
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by Matthew_Taylor on Oct 5, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, offending Boyle is never a good idea.
His ATOI last year was 26.14, I doubt he gets a whole lot less this season. Might just see a bit more ES and a bit less PK.
Honestly, I’d be fine with 26 a night if almost none of that was on the PK. Those minutes are far and away the hardest minutes on players.
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by Evilducks on Oct 5, 2011 2:29 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Agreed
I think what TMac said was pefect. It should be fun to watch 22-3 (20-25 mins) and 44-88 (20-25 mins) (*22-88 will get more time because of the PP), followed up by Demers/White/Vandermeer! Our defense is going to do some major damage this season.
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by will_hunter23 on Oct 5, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Hearing Boyle
in an interview where there was a question about this, it sounds like the guy doesn’t like the thought of playing less. Even if it’s just a few minutes less. I think he’s the type of player that gets in the zone and continues to try harder the more you let him play. I don’t think it’ll be a problem and it’ll help the team. It’s just awsome to have such a competitive player.
Nabokov didn’t like playing less either – if it was the players’ choice, they wouldplay every game, every minute, but sometimes the coach has to rein. McLellan has sort of an iffy record on that based on the goalie stuff, but I’m sure one way or the other, Boyle will have less on his back for this season and that will be a good thing.
I'd love to see Boyle
At 22-25 minutes a night, and assuming they both stay healthy, I’d like to see Vlasic and Burns be the ones nearing 26 a night if there’s going to be that level of imbalance in the minutes. Burns can continue to provide us with a #1 defensive presence, and Vlasic has never seemed to have any issues playing big minutes, other than the fact that he hasn’t yet showed much offensive upside, but I expect Burns to more than offset any of that.
Murray has consistently improved, but I think anything over 23 for him probably greatly limits his effectiveness, as his lack of speed really gets exposed. But at 23 or so, I think his physicality is best utilized.
I’d really like to see Demers consistently playing 20 or so minutes a night if not more. I don’t know what Colin White is capable of, but I’d have to hope 20 a night isn’t too much for him, especially if he ends up taking significant PK minutes like we all seem to expect.
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There are only 120 minutes total a game for defensemen to share… If everybody played 20 minutes a night even we’d be out of minutes… Even with full overtimes every night, thats only 130 minutes, so that just under 22 minutes each.
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I understand
But last season, we had two clear options in Huskins and Wallin to be playing around 18 a night. Outside of White, I don’t see any of the top 6 who should even be considered 15-18 minute defenseman. And White could potentially be a 20 minute man if he stayed healthy. My point remains, playing Dan Boyle more than 25 minutes with this much depth on the blueline seems a foolish plan for an entire season. I’d rather see minutes spread evenly on a consistent basis, so that if someone goes down, and we have to give real minutes to Vandermeer or Braun, everyone else has the legs to handle their 25 minutes in that scenario.
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but wasn't White facing top competition in NJ?
I think he will mop up 3rd pairing minutes no problem and still have gas in the tank.
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White's playing time in NJ
See this link – http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2011/1/29/1963073/a-close-look-at-colin-whites-performance-so-far-this-season. Hat tip to John Fisher who produced it.
I agree with you, White will see lots of 3rd pairing and PK time and no time at all on the PP.
One thing I plan on this season
Is learning how to interpret all the advanced stats of hockey. I got lost real quick reading that page.
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That’s some intense statistics.
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by PNK on Oct 6, 2011 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Murray
DM defies physics. This man understands leverage better than any big guy I’ve seen. I rewind his counter-hits more than any other player.
derp.
CRANKSHAFTED!!!
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by will_hunter23 on Oct 5, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
that's why, when a canucks player tried to hit him, murray was fine. the defenseman broke his hand.
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by sanjosesharksfan on Oct 5, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He went to Cornell...
so he must have learned something.
Dany Heatley=All-star.
by dfh15 on Oct 5, 2011 5:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
There isn't much else to do in Cornell
You can:
1) Drink
2) Study
3) Watch hockey
That pretty much summarizes my experience there.
by WhatsAMataHari on Oct 5, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s just say he studied. ;)
Dany Heatley=All-star.
by dfh15 on Oct 5, 2011 7:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
UBERTAP!
(how do you type umluats?)
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by PNK on Oct 5, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
*Umlauts
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by PNK on Oct 5, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ÜBERTAP
(Copy and paste)
Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!
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One of the handy things I learned in german class
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I just hit a bunch of random alt codes just because I could.
Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
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Haha
I have a friend who’s experience was almost exactly the same.
On the plus side, there is a lot of hockey to watch…
by WhatsAMataHari on Oct 5, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing that will be interesting to see from Douglas this season is...
If he will be able to further his smashing abilities and decimate opposing players by mere glance.
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Clearly the next stage in Crankshaft evolution
by WhatsAMataHari on Oct 5, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know that he’ll decimate them by mere glance, he does scare people just by looking at em…but seriously, players already think twice about coming down his side of the ice with the puck on their stick. That should go double now with Colin White on the team
Why cant it be a perfect universe
so we can have White and Murray on the 3rd pairing and literally have the bash brothers. (I can dream cant i?)
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Epicness defined
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by sanjosesharksfan on Oct 5, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Someone please find me the clip where he knocks down two St. Louis Blues players! One of them was Dan Hinote, I know, and Blake was on the team at the time, so it was in the last two years.
Actually
Hinote was a tryout for us 2 years ago, didn’t make it and retired… so if Blake was on the team, then it was 08-09 year.
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Murray also did this in the 2nd preseason game against vancouver
Someone commented that Murray wanted to go bowling or something.
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Yeah, it was something like one of the Vancouver players hits him, bounces off, and falls into his own teammate against the boards. ’Twas awesome
by WhatsAMataHari on Oct 5, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Douglas' Mom and Dad must be so proud
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This is definitely a better lineup than last year.
Strong D to back up Nemo; good depth to the lowest lines…I’m really having some high hopes about this season.
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A little OT
Havlat’s been ruled out for the season opener…could be ready for game 2 according Pierre LeBrun.
As long as
he takes his time and the team doesn’t rush him it’s alright. I see Havlat having a big year this year.
When you said
his sheer body massThis is all I could think of…
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No one gets it
Oh well, I guess I’l keep Always Sunny references to myself haha
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I got it
but I haven’t seen the new season yet, so don’t spoil anything!
All I know Mac is fat and I think it’s gonna be hilarious.
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by PNK on Oct 5, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
but I haven’t seen the new season yet, so don’t spoil anything!
Everyone on The Island was dead the whole time! Oh wait, wrong show…
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I GET KNOCKED DOWN (by Douglas Murray)
AND I GET UP AGAIN (three days later).
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by Evil Stanchion on Oct 5, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Apparently today is the 20th anniversary of the Sharks first home game
Oct. 5, 1991 at the Cow Palace.
Le Palace du Cows.
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by Evil Stanchion on Oct 5, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's my button....
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And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."
GO SHARKS.
sorry for the size
novice with posting photos. Thought I shrank it.
And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."
GO SHARKS.
This is a damn fine pin
I would have loved to have gotten one, problem being I was a fetus at the time. definite collectors item.
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Thank you Mark Purdy and your stupid fucking calling things by their spanish names gay ass nicknames that NO ONE FUCKING LIKES!!!!
Sorry, but gooddamn I hate Mark Purdy and Los Tiburones.
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by PNK on Oct 5, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You are not alone.
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Purdy needs to be banned from all Sharks-related anything.
Believing in the Sharks, one photoshop at a time. GO SHARKS!
When Mark Purdy is on TV talking about the Sharks I just have to laugh. The one that really chaps my hide is Ray Ratto, when he’s on TV I get all angry and want to scream “save some fucking Doritos and Mayonnaise for the rest of the world you stupid walrus faced fat fuck!” (huff…puff….whew)
derp.
Everything he says is Purdy stupid.
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"Those of you who volunteered to be injected praying mantis DNA, I have some good news and some bad news: bad news is we've postponed these test indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men! Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts."
by Evil Stanchion on Oct 6, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
So to review...
Fear the Fin > Pollak > ……….ESPN > Ratto > Purdy.
I also think Los Tiburones is the worst thing ever and anyone who spreads it should be dealt with much like a zombie disease…destroy the brain….
KEEP THE FAITH- GO SHARKS!
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Should probably note..
the “…” indicates “everyone else”.
KEEP THE FAITH- GO SHARKS!
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