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Teams like Detroit are always a good measuring stick of how well the team is playing at a specific point in the season, even if that measuring stick has become less and less useful over the last two plus seasons. Dates against Chicago and Vancouver are those marquee matchups you circle on your calendar every year because the amount of talent that is about to hit the ice guarantees you'll see some of the best hockey the NHL has to offer. Anaheim and Los Angeles both have the California connection and one playoff battle apiece, which makes them a great default setting to fall back on.

The Sharks biggest rivalry? We can talk about Anaheim, Los Angeles, and Detroit. You can make a case for Vancouver, and maybe even Chicago.

But pound for pound, there isn't a team in the entire NHL that has the same feel as Dallas.

When the Sharks-Stars rivalry was in its heyday during the late 90's and mid 2000's (I refuse to use the term "aughts"), both teams racking up 95 point seasons and doing battle for the Pacific Division nearly every year, that is when the rivalry was at its best. The Stars were coming off a Stanley Cup championship in 1999, the Sharks were becoming a team that was consistently in the hunt every year, and the toxic spillover from a pair of playoff series in 1998 and 2000 helped kick everything into motion. It was stellar theater night in night out; despite the fact that a lockout, personnel changes, and new coaching staffs for both teams all could have put a damper on the festivities, things never really slowed down.

Whenever I think of a moment that encapsulates the relationship between the two teams I turn back the clock to April 6, 2008. Both Dallas and San Jose had already clinched a playoff berth, the Pacific Division title was firmly in the Sharks' hands, and there was no possibility of them meeting in the first round. It was the last game of the regular season for both teams; for all intents and purposes, a throwaway game. Get in, get out, stay healthy, and make sure you get your most important players enough rest for the opening round of the playoffs. Simple.

Not so.

105 penalty minutes in the first period. 160 total throughout the game. Five fights, including one involving Milan Michalek (Milan Michalek!). Hooks, hacks, slashes, instigators, god knows what kind of smack talk. It was a barroom brawl in a game that meant absolutely nothing. The final score, 4-2 Dallas, didn't even matter. What mattered was that both teams showed up at American Airlines Center for their morning skate, mainlined a gallon of adrenaline in the hours preceding the faceoff, and stepped onto the ice with the sole intent of tearing each other apart.

Star-divide

The rivalry has lost a little bit of the old mystique in the last two or so seasons, and I only say that because Dallas' failure to make the postseason three years running has framed things that way. With that minor caveat out of the way however, it needs to be reiterated that these games are some of the fiercest, physical, and taxing outings on the Sharks schedule.

Over the last two seasons the Sharks are 5-5-2 against the Stars. I'd have to go through and tabulate all of the data for other opponents, but that has to be one of the worst (if not the worst) records San Jose has posted against a Western Conference opponent in that time frame. Dallas has always seemed to have San Jose's number, whether it be in the regular season or postseason, and in that regard nothing has changed.

Today also marks a milestone of sorts-- San Jose's opportunity to move into a tie for first place in the Pacific Division since October 8th (their first game of the year). As a rule it's pretty useless to pay attention to the minutia of the standings until about January, as teams are jumping from first to third to second to first all the time, but this seems like an accomplishment that is worth noting considering just how far the Sharks have come as a team since going 1-3-0 to start the year.

The opportunity to move into first, on the road, against Dallas, in the midst of a Stars' four game losing streak?

Giddyup.

Prediction: Sharks win 3-2 in overtime. Goals by Pavelski, McGinn, and Burns. Congratulations to the city of Dallas and their fans on finding a new owner.

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YYYEEEAAAHHH!!!

LET’S GO SHARKS!!!
I am going to steal the 3-2 OT win but goals from pavs, havlat and zeus with the winner.

Also a gigantic death check from Doug Murray to Steve Ott (douche).

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by wtfbro? on Nov 19, 2011 4:11 AM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Oh say does that "boooo" spangled banner yet wave

During the April 6th game, I still remember the look on Ott’s face when Jumbo tried to fight him and he was having none of it. I also remember that elimination game in May having stayed up way too late on a school night at my friends house, seeing Nabby’s save of the decade, to only have our hopes and dreams shattered by Brendan Morrow. It’s a shame their front office situation has hampered their on ice situation the last few seasons. Obviously the ’09 playoffs have heated up the Anaheim rivalry, and the series last year with LA also stepped things up. Gotta love the 4 way hate-fest in the Pacific.

"I will BREAK you"- Douglas Murray

by Bdub408 on Nov 19, 2011 4:47 AM PST reply actions  

Shark Spangled Banner

The artist formerly know as *"Sharks_Fan_In_Toronto"*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw

by Evil Stanchion on Nov 19, 2011 6:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Beat Dalolas.

The artist formerly know as *"Sharks_Fan_In_Toronto"*

"Those of you who volunteered to be injected praying mantis DNA, I have some good news and some bad news: bad news is we've postponed these test indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men! Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts."

by Evil Stanchion on Nov 19, 2011 5:06 AM PST reply actions  

I think I'd like to see these things:

A Sharks win.

The Hot Pickle grabbing 5 points.

Taco Torrey scoring in the Taco Minute in someone else’s building.

Steve Ott spontaneously and uncontrollably doing river dance until the refs are forced to give him a 10 minute misconduct delay of game penalty.

A Stars loss.

Believing in the Sharks, one photoshop at a time. GO SHARKS!

by Auth0r on Nov 19, 2011 7:28 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

love this rivalry.

right there with detroit, and now new meaning with dallas having been on top for the early goings of this season.

and there is always this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0DomVGAM9E

meeeeow -cats everywhere

by Jay Fin Anderson on Nov 19, 2011 7:51 AM PST reply actions  

I love how Nabby’s just chilling out

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by Bockerz on Nov 19, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Belllllfooooooourrrrr....

I so miss chanting that at the tank – or my TV!

I hate the Dallas Stars, always have…Go Sharks.

by milanahalek on Nov 19, 2011 7:54 AM PST reply actions  

TUUURRRCOOO

Wait.. damn!

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by Bockerz on Nov 19, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya, I miss chanting that too.

by milanahalek on Nov 19, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I just noticed the logos up top

has Dallas playing at pre-2007 San Jose.

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by PNK on Nov 19, 2011 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

I think it’s the old Stars logo too. The green is a lot lighter than it is now.

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by Kuzcotopia on Nov 19, 2011 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I was less sure about that

so i didn’t say anything.

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by PNK on Nov 19, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I used it as a visual reminder of how far back the rivalry goes. I thought it was a nice touch.

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by Mr. Plank on Nov 19, 2011 11:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah

that explains it.

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"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
Kent Huskins cares.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn
"Pavs with great feed but what a release by Wingels Peanut Butter Baby!"" - Jamie Baker

by PNK on Nov 19, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You're obviously wrong...

Plank says the 11-7-0 Stars have 212 points, and he’s always right! :P

by Quid Pro Clowe on Nov 19, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Goddamn NHL point system!!

by BillytheSid on Nov 19, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

The header was a mess. Thanks for the heads up guys.

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by Mr. Plank on Nov 19, 2011 10:40 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Gotta keep you on your toes!

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"The only crying allowed in hockey is when you lose a playoff series, retire or JR is speaking publicly." - Jamie Baker
"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
Kent Huskins cares.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn
"Pavs with great feed but what a release by Wingels Peanut Butter Baby!"" - Jamie Baker

by PNK on Nov 19, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

How about this for a first impression....

I was going to Dallas to meet my now-wife’s family for the first time and her mom got us tickets about 5 rows from the glass.

Just wanted to add to the thin file of cool things in-laws do.

Back to reader/non-commenter status

by namdeirf on Nov 19, 2011 9:45 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

super rad!

Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.

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by sharks in oc on Nov 19, 2011 10:48 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I was at that game way back in April of 2008. Craziness, to be sure.

And I will be there tonight! Can’t wait!!

by Megs on Nov 19, 2011 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Lets get these 2 points

Win, and kick Steve Ott’s ass

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Nov 19, 2011 11:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

these games

Are the best. Went to a 3-0 sharks win 2 years ago. It was Nabbys 50th shutout. Great game.

Just pissed I’m stuck at work til 630

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by Pavelskinator on Nov 19, 2011 12:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Pretty sure Plank was trying to seduce us with that intro.

Your move, TCY. Laces out.

I like my goals like I like my booze..... Top shelf.

by GhostOfLinkGaetz on Nov 19, 2011 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

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