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Sharks blueline not producing as expected offensively, but a resurgence could be on the way

When the San Jose Sharks acquired Brent Burns last offseason, many (including myself) thought it would bring about a renaissance on the offensive front for San Jose. Not just for the forwards, who would clearly benefit from playing with a talented puck mover such as Burns, but for the blueline as a whole as well.

The addition of Burns would, in theory, allow San Jose to do three things-- the first is reduce Dan Boyle's minutes (making him more effective with less workload), allow Marc-Edouard Vlasic to expand his offensive game (by virtue of being paired with Burns), and free up space for Jason Demers to clean house against bottom line forwards as he played on the third pairing.

For the most part things haven't worked out that way.

Boyle will enter Wednesday's game on pace for his lowest point per game total since 2003-2004, Burns has amassed only 10 points, and Demers has struggled his way towards a mere 6 points thus far this season. Marc-Edouard Vlasic is only defenseman on the team who has managed to exceed expectations offensively this season, with much of that coming during his Bobby Orr esque run in late November when he scored seven points in three games.

In other words, the Sharks blueline has continued the trend of seeing their offensive output decrease ever since Rob Blake and Christian Ehrhoff left the team in successive years during the first two years of Todd McLellan's tenure behind the bench.


San Jose Sharks Production From Defenseman

Year GP Goals Assists
Points
PTS/GP PPG
SHOTS
S%
2008-2009 82
41
162
203
2.48 22
816 5.0%
2009-2010
82
37
135
172
2.09 15
687
5.4%
2010-2011
82 28
124
152
1.85 7
780
3.6%
2011-2012
30 11
44
55
1.83 4
321
3.4%

What those numbers don't show you at first glance is a few things. The first is the amount of shots San Jose's blueline has been putting up this year-- they're currently on pace to log 877 shots this season, which is probably a team record for shots from the blueline. This is a good sign to see and indicates some more goals could be on their way.

The average shooting percentage for defenseman last season was 5.08%, 5.16% in 09-10, and 5.39% in 08-09. For whatever reason-- whether it be putting low percentage shots on net to generate a rebound, a lack of traffic, or just plain luck-- the Sharks blueline core hasn't had the goal scoring success one would expect to see with shot totals this high. Dan Boyle is the one who has been snakebit the hardest in this regard, as 2 goals in 92 shots indicates something might be up with San Jose's number one defenseman.

Speaking of Boyle, it turns out his early season struggles weren't just age or performance related. As Boyle told Jamie Baker on Sharks radio following Saturday's game against Edmonton, he had actually been playing with a broken foot during the start of the season.

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"I don’t want to make it sound like an excuse, but [injuries have] been a factor. I had a broken foot there for a while, and it really hurt my skating. Just being healthy for me has been a big difference the last five or six games or so."

Obviously, a broken foot would hinder one of Boyle’s biggest strengths – his foot speed.

"That’s been the thing. I think my skating has always been my strong suit. For the first 15 or 20 games or so I was a step behind, and I was creating a lot of problems out there," he told Baker.

>> Kevin Kurz, CSN Sharks Talk

First things first, you have to think (hope?) the Sharks wouldn't have been pushing Boyle if they felt he was at risk of aggravating the injury and becoming worse off during the year. There's still the issue of continuing to lean on him so heavily when the foot was clearly doing a pretty big disservice to his game, but at the very least it seems unlikely they would risk shooting themselves in the foot literally and figuratively by playing him with an injury that could have gotten worse.

The second aspect of this is the fact that a healthy Boyle should now be able to provide more offensively than he has given the team this year. As he mentioned to Baker, the injury really put him behind the eight ball in what has been his best asset over the years-- his skating ability, which directly effects his ability to move the puck out of the zone, up the ice, and in the offensive zone. With Boyle getting healthy for the first time this season, it only seems natural that the point production will begin to follow.

The other aspects of what will be a more dangerous defensive core going forward are circumstantial but relevant. You have to think there's more the team will get out of Burns in the raw numbers, especially when one considers just how good his underlying statistics have been all season. After a really rough stretch to start the year Jason Demers has been much better as of late and seems to be finding the groove he established himself in last season where he was one of San Jose's best blueliners down the stretch. And while Justin Braun hasn't racked up the points he looks like he is capable of, he's looked strong on the backend all season and continues to find a way to get his shots on net.

Coupled with the large shot totals the blueline has put up this season and things look like they could be on the upswing for San Jose's blueline from an offensive perspective. It won't fix the penalty kill outright, but maybe an extra goal here or there makes those shorthanded struggles moot.

One can hope.

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You still have to wonder

that while Boyle getting hurt is awful, how the blue line is going to react in the future when he’s out of the lineup. Obviously, I’d like to see him healthy for the remainder of the season, but his injury and following poor play has basically told the rest of the league that the Sharks are still very, VERY vulnerable when they’re missing a top D man. Boyle gets leaned on a lot by the team, and while the addition of Burns was supposed to help relieve some of that, it still seems that his good play makes or breaks a hockey game for this team.

However, where this team sees the most vulnerable is on its 3rd D-pair. I wouldn’t be surprised if Wilson makes a trade for another solid second/third Vlasic-esque D-man in an effort to just make sure that we don’t fall into another “Oh my God, Boyle’s out of the lineup, the sky is falling, our offense had better pray” situation. The bottom line is, we need a bottom line. And right now, while the carousel of Vandemeer-White-Braun-Demers is fun to watch, I’d much rather see defensemen that can help shut down an offense and hold a zone instead of the scrappy patchy effort of a quick-fix third line.

Of course, not all the blame can fall on Boyle’s injury. The offense’s lack of output recently has been atrocious. But with more solid blue line pairings, at least some of their stress can be alleviated to return to their game instead of worrying about covering their own bacon when they have a possession.

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by Joeface on Dec 19, 2011 5:22 AM PST reply actions  

In terms of allocation of resources--

I don’t see any reason why DW would make a change to the defense at this point. There’s enough talent there, you just have to hope the numbers start to improve. And our third-pairing carousel of players is actually quite respectable—what can you expect from a 3rd pair? Sure, Demers and White have struggled at times, but they’ve both been better lately (and what are you going to do, give up on Demers and expose him to waivers?), and Braun has looked really good consistently and has the advanced stats to back that up.

The Sharks only have so much room under the cap, so many picks/prospects they can give up, so I think it’s clear that a 2nd/3rd line forward, preferably one who can kill penalties, is a WAY bigger priority.

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by Timorous Me on Dec 19, 2011 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Show me a team that ISN'T vulnerable with its top d-man injured...

And the third d-pairing isn’t that big of a problem IMO. We have what, four guys that have been switching on and off of that line? I thought people were pretty much OK with Vandermeer, and Demers and Braun have been playing well (though Braun has been danced around a couple times this season).

I think the article is pretty much dead-on; give our healthy blue line a little more time, and they’ll start producing at a pace closer to what was expected before the season started.

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by JamesGotALeg on Dec 19, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Boyle

To go along with that injury that was clearly messing with his ability to skate – I can’t believe it took him 20+ games to realize his sticks were too long…I think that was a huge contributor to his stick handling, shot and passing issues. Now that he’s got himself sorted out, he looks like the Boyle of years past.

I’d really like if they would rely on Burns a bit more to take on the other teams top competition (Vlasic is already seeing the toghest comp) and have Boyle on the PK less but it seems that’s just not going to happen any time soon.

As a whole, the team D this year (at ES) has been really good! I’m very comfortable with the group Wilson has put together as they have 6 guys who have shown they can handle top 4 minutes and I think their scoring will pick up. They’re still pretty likely to end up with 3 players with 30+ points.

by milanahalek on Dec 19, 2011 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

(Vlasic is already seeing the toghest comp) *I meant Vlasic is currently seeing the toughest comp*

by milanahalek on Dec 19, 2011 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I really think the Dan Boyle stick thing

Was more psychological than anything. Sometimes players just need a scapegoat for their bad ju ju so they can reset themselves mentally.

by BillytheSid on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

That inch makes a pretty difference for a guy that’s been playing hockey with a specific stick length for a long time.

by milanahalek on Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If you've played before

Stick length differences, no matter how minimal, affect everything negatively.

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by dfh15 on Dec 19, 2011 7:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I appreciate the tone of condescention

Because I indeed have played hockey before. For 20 years. in fact, as high as the NCAA level. And I can say quite confidently that if an NHL-caliber veteran hockey player cannot overcome the discomfort of a mere one inch difference in stick length, then he has no business calling himself a hockey player.

However, hockey players are deeply superstitious. And as I said, the PSYCHOLOGICAL impact of adjusting his stick length likely had a greater effect on his performance than the actual physics of the adjustment.

by BillytheSid on Dec 19, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=63&f1=2011_s&f2=5v5&f4=D&f5=S.J&f7=10-&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+17+18+19+20+63+67+57+58+59+60+61+62+64+65+66

It’s also scary how sheltered burns has been this season. Prior to Murray going on IR burns was up in the 60s in zone start %

by SnarkSD on Dec 19, 2011 8:10 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I'll be honest. I'm more worried about Martin Havlat.

We have a ton of defensive depth. We can tap into Worchester if need be,

Our offense may be deeply affected by the loss of Havlat. He brings super speed and he’s a super passer. Our powerplay got the goal not because of the defensemen, but by the hard work down low.

We really need Havlat back soon.

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by sharkzfan on Dec 19, 2011 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

Because he's been so indispensible for us this year...

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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 19, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

How many players do we have that can flat out skate fast?

I mean besides Patty, we don’t really have anyone (there’s McGinn but we all know he’s worthless to this team).

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by sharkzfan on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

From what I've seen so far, Havlat's fast, but doesn't use his speed in his game.

Much less so than Patty, and he sometimes even floats a bit.

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by jwizzle241 on Dec 19, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno...

I feel like Havlat even at 70% speed is one of the fastest on the team. He’s caused a few goals from his forechecking and he gets through the neutral zone pretty fast.

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by sharkzfan on Dec 19, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

He's still above average, but I haven't seen him blow by anyone, really.

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by jwizzle241 on Dec 19, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Havlat can't really flat out skate

He’s a good skater, but I wouldn’t say he can flat out skate & he doesn’t use the speed he does have a whole lot.

There’s a few guys that are ‘faster’, Mitchell, Marleau, McGinn, Murray, even Winchester uses his speed more…

And McGinn is anything but worthless – in fact, he’s tied for 4th in goals on the team & has turned himself into a great 3rd liner.

by milanahalek on Dec 19, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Murray? Fast?

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by Briceratops on Dec 19, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Andrew Murray…and yes, he’s a very good skater.

by milanahalek on Dec 19, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh forgot about that one.

I thought you were talking about Douglas.

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by Briceratops on Dec 19, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Douglas Murray

Offensive Force Speed Skater. He just needs to be wearing the outfit from the holiday video, I swear.

by bezzerkker on Dec 19, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Havlat

Is past the days where he could fly past defenders. Now it’s a little above average. But take a look at his old highlights…a few years ago, he could scoot.

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by dfh15 on Dec 19, 2011 7:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

as long as we have Have Latte for the playoffs...

and he gets to play long enough in the regular season to find a groove/chemistry with his teammates..

by raidershark on Dec 19, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

more news on Havlat on Monday

I would think

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by ChangoT on Dec 19, 2011 8:48 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

does dan boyle not play anymore because of the broken foot? I see he's not listed as injured.

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Dec 19, 2011 11:23 PM PST reply actions  

He played through it. I believe it is healed up.

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by SoxAcumen on Aug 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT

by Briceratops on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally I think Burns has been really good this season.

I think Burns has been great this season
Especially since he’s gotten used to the system here. Although I can’t say the same about Havlat, Clowe, White, or Murray. I’m leaving Boyle out because he’s been playing great after his foot healed.

To me, although I may be biased, the only really good players in SJ this year have been Vlasic and Burns on D, and Pavelski, Couture, McGinn, and Thornton. Handzus and Winchester have been good, though, as well. Marleau’s been underwhelming, Havlat hasn’t been as good as we’d expected or hoped, and Clowe’s also been underwhelming IMO.

But again, I’m usually a bad judge on this. Just my $0.02 worth.

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by sanjosesharksfan on Dec 20, 2011 12:06 AM PST reply actions  

I agree about some of the teams performance

but i noticed that as fans we had very high expectations of these new acquisitions. While scoring wise Havlat has not shown much promise so far this regular season I still think he will be very valuable during the postseason. As for white, has been the most disappointing to me, I still hope his game will come around and he will shown more worth than he has so far, Handzus an Burns have been great so far imo

by SkateSC on Dec 20, 2011 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

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