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Struggling Sharks look to get back into the win column against the Dallas Stars

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When it rains, it pours. And when it pours, you get the feeling that the city of San Jose starts doing a lot of pouring as well.

Increased liquor store sales this week notwithstanding, it doesn't take a meteorologist to forecast what type of weather patterns the Sharks are currently experiencing-- cloudy, with a chance of hail, and a whole lot of uncertainty as to what happens next. A 1-4 record in their last five games, with their only win in that span coming in the shootout after a last minute goal from Ryane Clowe put the game into overtime, has some of us stocking up on canned goods and bottled water in an attempt to survive the storm.

These storms come yearly for the Sharks of course, a talented team that's prone to slip into mid-season struggles like they are a warm Snuggie. Dan Boyle's poor play is well-chronicled and all too real at this point, Martin Havlat's lack of sustained production is disappointing to see, Ryane Clowe's tendency to beat the puck around is uncharacteristic, Colin White hasn't played as well as we advertised he would, Jason Demers' season has been a roller coaster ride, and the team as a whole hasn't been meeting the lofty standards they set for themselves at the beginning of the season.

As we mentioned last weekend before the 5-3 loss to Florida, the Sharks look fine in the big picture but are currently lacking those small details you expect to find in a Stanley Cup caliber team. This isn't exclusive to the Sharks of course; fanbases across the League could go on for hours about their team's inadequacies but only come up with a tight elevator pitch on strengths, but it is something that bears repeating-- when the Sharks are struggling they have one hell of a time completing their passes in the neutral zone, which tends to make it seem as if they're chasing the puck all night.

Coupled with opposing defenses breaking down in front of the net and doing a good job of limiting second chances and that high-octane offense we've grown entitled to seeing blows a fuse and ends up in the auto-repair shop for two weeks.

There's sunshine creeping through the dark clouds however, and it started on Tuesday night against Minnesota.

Star-divide

When a team has 42 shots on net, 33 shots that were blocked, and 18 missed shots throughout the course of a night, you know they're doing something right-- 93 shot attempts in total, or 1.55 per minute, is a good blueprint to win hockey games. Many will beg to differ of course, stating there is a systemic flaw in the Sharks system that makes their shots less dangerous than other teams', but if you can wring that sort of effort out of a team every single night you are going to win a lot of hockey games.

It also bears mentioning that the Sharks, despite ending up on the wrong end of the scoreboard lately, have been holding their own in the scoring chance department. These numbers, compiled by the fine and illustrious Derek Tanabe who has been tracking scoring chances this season over at The Neutral, showcases this fact:


San Jose Sharks Previous Five Games at Even Strength


Chance for
Chance Against
Shots for
shots against
vs. Minnesota
20
9
37
19
vs. Florida
12
9
25
23
vs. Canadiens
19
13
41
29
@ Kings
5
8
23
29
vs. Canucks
13
10
33
24
TOTAL
69
49
159
124

In other words, the Sharks have been playing opposing teams fairly well at even strength over the last five games. Score distortion is no doubt having some bearing on these totals, as teams who are trailing tend to put more shots on net compared to teams who are leading, but overall you can make the case that San Jose hasn't driven off a cliff into a complete free fall.

What they have done is fall asleep at the wheel at important moments and paid the consequences.

Another blemish that might not be the end of the world is the penalty kill, which currently sits at a disastrous 74.3%. That is dead last in the League, 30th with a bullet. Usually it would require a guy like Karl Rove to spin something that ungodly into a bright light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm feeling frisky today so let's give it a spin.

The Sharks have done a phenomenal job of staying out of the box this season by taking only 74 penalties, which ends up as the third best in the League once you adjust for games played. Their 19 goals against on the PK is currently tied for 15th in the NHL, and ever since transitioning into the 1-3 PK scheme (which we covered here), the Sharks have given up only 6 goals against in 11 games played. Furthermore, the special teams battle has only cost the Sharks two wins this season-- against Vancouver and Minnesota the Sharks lost by their special teams differential, with PK goals against against making the difference in the final score.

Have you had enough already? Yeah, me too. The PK is clearly a huge issue for this team, and one that needs to be addressed by GM Doug Wilson at some point this year. That much is clear, even if some positive thinking can lessen the pain of what has become a parade of red lights.

However, what I am saying is this-- the Sharks aren't victims of systemic issues that can never be fixed. They have the pieces in-house to turn this thing around right now, and a bad five game stretch isn't enough to sound the alarm and run for the fire exit. A dominating overall effort against Minnesota is a step in the right direction and should help lay the foundation for a better result tonight.

Their first meeting against the Dallas Stars since that slobber knocker of game on November 19th, which saw both teams combine for 100 penalty minutes, should provide all the motivation this team needs to get back on the right track. Dallas has been kicking around .500 lately after escaping from a five game losing streak in mid-November, and the loss of Kari Lehtonen to his annual injury means the Sharks will be facing the much less imposing Andrew Raycroft in net tonight. The pieces are in place for the Sharks to come out with their guns a blazing, no doubt buoyed by the boos that will rain down tonight in the midst of the National Anthem.

A win is as simple as finishing their chances and managing the neutral zone with crisp tape to tape passes.

Even if the Sharks are in one of their classic ruts where they make the simplest things look so damn hard.

Prediction: Sharks win 3-2. Goals by McGinn, Marleau, and Burns. Martin Havlat shoots the puck on net five times, but his unlucky and unsustainable 1.9 shooting percentage (kind of impressive at this stage of the year, really) takes at least one more game before it begins to regress to the mean.

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Actually, he invites you to come at him...

…and then you go to the box for it, then you get scored on.

Heyas, how is everybody?

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by ex_seraphim (Angelou del Angel) on Dec 8, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot the part where he gets lost in his own sweater.

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by ievans on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my favorite quotes about Steve Ott

A quote I love so much that it’s listed as such on my Facebook:

Joe Thornton’s knuckles have healed just fine from the damage recently done to them by Steve Ott’s face.

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by mymclife on Dec 8, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah McGinn, give it to Hanzus and wait for it

by a408life on Dec 8, 2011 3:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Take Boyle off the PK?

Just a thought. 1st, the PK can’t get much worse anyway. 2nd, at his age, he doesn’t need to be leading the team in ice time every game. The Wings have taken Lidstrom off their PK in the last few years to keep him running full speed 5×5 and on their PP and given Kronwall their #1 PK work. Boyle’s not Lidstrom’s age, but San Jose also doesn’t appear to have access to the Fountain of Youth that’s inside Chelios’ restaurant by the Joe.

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by Kazoonole on Dec 8, 2011 5:22 AM PST reply actions  

Agree with this...

Boyle has been just terrible this year in general. No reason to give him more chances to screw up by rolling him out there in every situation.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 8, 2011 7:38 AM PST up reply actions  

And send him the message “You’re not trusted anymore” which will probably hurt his already limping confidence even more? No thanks.

by VVhirlwind on Dec 8, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

^Rec'd.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Despite his on-ice play this year, Boyle’s been nothing but a total professional his whole career. He doesn’t seem to be the type to take it personally.

Even before the season started, I always felt his insane ice time should drop. If he was 28, sure, but he’s not. You can’t fight nature, not until we perfect installing Luke Skywalker’s bionic arm.

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by Mike Chen on Dec 8, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Living in Michigan, there was quite a bit of angst in the first half of 2009/10 that Lidstrom was finally hitting the wall between his age, two consecutive trips to the Cup finals and playing #1 minutes. They take him off the PK (the toughest minutes for any D-man), he has a solid 2nd half, the team has a hot streak post Olympics to make the playoffs, and last year, he’s back to winning Norris trophies.

Boyle at his best is an offensive defensemen. Let’s use him that way. Our younger D-men are going to have to pick up the slack for those 3-4 minutes of PK time he currently uses.

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by Kazoonole on Dec 8, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

With regards to Chelios' fountain of youth...

…see also: “Zombie Chelios” jokes on Down Goes Brown.

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by ex_seraphim (Angelou del Angel) on Dec 8, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been wondering the same thing myself

It shouldn’t take a brilliant mind to figure out that Boyle should not be on the PK. He’s struggling 5 on 5. His D is boarderline embarrassing, so why is he on the PK!!?? Is TMac afraid to piss him off??

by Tiberon07 on Dec 8, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

All I want for my birthday is...

1. A Sharks WIN

2. A Pavelski hat trick!

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by Fear the 8 on Dec 8, 2011 6:11 AM PST reply actions  

These games are always fun. Screw the realignment…

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:29 AM PST reply actions  

Aaaawwww....

…we’ll miss you guys too. Seriously, this rivalry is the only thing I’ll miss about the Pacific.

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by ex_seraphim (Angelou del Angel) on Dec 8, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree completely with Murray being over his head in a top-4 role. Top 2 sure, i can go with that, but he is an excellent 3/4 guy. His skillset is excellent, and it is really only his skating that keeps him out of a top 2 role in his own right.

I’m really liking how Burns has settled into San Jose alongside Vlasic, and while he’s not being an offensive dynamo others expected of him, if you’ve noticed a lot of the offensive play in the recent weeks has been all “board cycle into behind the net board cycle”, without a lot of “win the cycle, pull defenders into the corners and then cycle that puck to the line for a bomb”, so we havn’t been able to see a great many opportunities for a Burn’s power bomb outside of the PP.

by VVhirlwind on Dec 8, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Murray survives as a 3/4 when Boyle is playing well.

When he isn’t, Boyle’s mistakes are exacerbated by the fact that Murray is slower than crap.

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by Kazoonole on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Murray is slower than crap

Douglas Murray is like constipation!

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Burns is doing really well but as I said before/after we traded for him, he’s really not what our team needed. I we needed a Luke Schenn/Marc Staal type guy, not another offensive defenseman.

by Khaaz on Dec 8, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

They needed a replacement for Rob Blake, a 2 way d-man, and they got it in Burns.

by milanahalek on Dec 8, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The PK...

I like that you tried to put some kind of positive spin on it, as I’ve also noticed it’s not exactly losing games, but yes – it absolutely has to get better.

Their Power Play could also be better right now as well, though it’s still ranked somewhere in the top 10 I think.

5 on 5, they’re still 4th in the league in GF/A, which is a really, really good sign and the team as a whole is doing really well defensively as they’re 9th in GA/G.

Where the team is struggling the most right now is putting the puck in the net (and NZ turnovers at home). The team has way too much talent to continue with the low shooting percentage they have going on right now.

Dallas should be getting a pretty big boost tonight as Morrow, Daley and Goligoski are all expected to play…missing Murray for this game is going to suck, but Dallas seems to bring out the best in Clowe, Thornton and Marleau. It would be a good night to start turning all of those scoring chances they’re getting into goals.

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by milanahalek on Dec 8, 2011 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

Anyone seen Joe Thornton lately?

I sure do miss him.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 8:58 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

He looked pretty good and had a couple close chances against Minnesota. I think the question should be “Anyone seen Ryane Clowe lately?” Actually that’s a lie… I’ve seen him. Seen him playing like crap haha!

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by winthecupsj on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Last year was the first season I felt Clowe shook off his “great for two weeks, bad for two weeks, repeat” cycle. He seems to have regressed back into that this year. Disappointed but not surprised.

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by Mike Chen on Dec 8, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I think his separation from Couture has a lot to do with that.

Those two just work perfectly together. And each time they get split up, they both seem to suffer (though Clowe seems worse off from it).

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by Auth0r on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

And I have a very big problem with it! Clowe is a good hockey player, he was good before Couture made it to the NHL…he needs to figure out a way to contribute regardless of who he’s playing with becuase injuries will happen and it’s very likely he and Couture will be separated again at some point.

by milanahalek on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He dominated even strength last game.

Using The Neutral’s data again, he was on the ice for 10 scoring chances for (only 3 against) and the Sharks did have 20 ev scoring chances overall

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by idunno723 on Dec 8, 2011 11:34 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, Joe is definitely not the problem.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Not panicking... yet

But we sure are cold right now. Ice cold. Luck doesn’t seem to be on our side either from what we saw with all those chances on Tuesday. RIGHT on the doorstep. I have no doubt we will snap out of it.

I’m going out on a limb here and say the PK actually goes 100% tonight. Yes, I know… the chances of a foot of snow in the Bay Area is more likely but hey. Sharks WIN 3-2. Boyle scores a goal and everything prior will be forgotten. :)

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by winthecupsj on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

You know what the Sharks need? New blood.

I hate to be “that guy”, but if the Sharks fail to make the playoffs or make an early exit this year, I think it’s time to “blow up” the team. Keep the younger players (Couture, et al) and some of the character guys (Marleau, Clowe, et al). Replace Doug Wilson as GM because, well, the Sharks are desperately needing a new philosophy. Replace McLellan with someone with a less boring media face. Bring in a collection of free agents.

I know I’ll get the same “lolwut” responses, but I just can’t ignore Florida’s rebuild. San Jose has these extended brain farts every single year, and I’m sure I’m not alone in saying they just aren’t logical given the in-theory talent of the team. I don’t want to see the Sharks steadily decline until they turn into Carolina.

As for this year, the onus is on the players: If the team can’t work as a collective and step their game up, this sort of thing is only going to continue. I don’t go to practices, I don’t know if the problem is work ethic, fatigue, or just awful luck. But there’s a lingering cloud of awful that haunts the Sharks on a fairly consistent basis… It’s going on 10 years now. The last Sharks team I had complete faith in was in ‘04… Since then, it’s been playoff chokes and plenty of “Y U NO PLAY BETTER, [player x]”.

I don’t think there’s any other team in the league that can do so consistently well without getting oodles of criticism from its fans.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

While I think the idea of a changing of the guard (from a players standpoint…DW isn’t going anywhere) if things fail to go well again has some merit, its pretty early to be talking that way. It’s also super early to determine whether Florida’s reloading will be a success or not. I mean, of course they were going to improve simply because they had to add salary this year. Will they win in the playoffs and make some real noise? That’s still a huge question mark. They may not even win their division still. Way too early for that judgement.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 8, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

If DW's losing his job any year, it'll be this one.

If Burns and (especially) Havlat can’t begin to more awesome (though to Burns’ credit, he’s been playing very well since the start of the season), those deals with Minnesota are going to look terrible: Especially when it caused Minnesota to get significantly better in the short term, whilst the Sharks played some really bad hockey games.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Especially when it caused Minnesota to get significantly better in the short term

See, I don’t know about that. I don’t feel like addition of Heatley and Seto all of a sudden made Minnesota a good team. Those two guys have been going at about average I think; Heatley has yet to have a game in which he scores more than once or has more than 3 points. Seto’s numbers are not too shabby, but he’s also benefiting from getting some more top line minutes.

I think the reason the Wild have been so good this year is goaltending. They have Harding and Backstrom putting up amazing numbers, and have a guy in Hackett who can hack it on short notice. They still have offensive struggles (25th in GF/G), but their goaltending (and defense) is keeping them in it (3rd in GA/G). The trades with the Sharks, then, changed some players but didn’t necessarily change the culture of the team.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Their young D looks pretty decent as well

Minnesota gave up arguably their best defenseman (I’m sure there are some out there who argue Nick Schultz is better) and are still playing well. I agree that the numbers are unsustainable, but I think, in 2 or 3 seasons, when the youth really gels, Minnesota will be absolutely for real.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t questioning Minnesota’s success. They’ve managed to keep their success consistent, which is a rare thing in the NHL this season.

I just don’t think that it’s the trades with San Jose that resulted in the success though.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, their goaltending has absolutely been the difference.

by milanahalek on Dec 8, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

They're getting timely scoring though

They don’t have that without Heatley at least.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah it’s crazy how much their young D has stepped up. They trade away their best defenseman, and the guy who became their best offensive defenseman, Marek Zidlicky has been a no-show all season and he’s on the IR now, yet they continue to win games.

Their new coach Mike Yeo seems to have done a great job with the team, and they’re getting excellent goaltending. It’s crazy the difference a good coach can make.

by Khaaz on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Also:

I have a lot of faith in Florida. They had two problems a week ago: No secondary scoring, and their top guys were starting to get pushed around.

They addressed both problems. Secondary scoring stepped right up (Sturm, Kulikov, Bergenheim and Garrison have been playing very well), and they got Krys Barch from the Stars for an ECHL player and a 5th rounder to get physical. (Let’s, c’mon, get physical).

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

We've picked up plenty of new blood...

in the Minnesota trades and picking up Handzus. Whether or not it was the “right” new blood is debatable for sure and remains to be seen, and I agree if the trades don’t pay off this season the onus will be on DW.

It’s early yet, and these guys have plenty of time to step up and show what they’re worth.

by SlapSchott on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I meant younger blood.

Someone without a reputation, I suppose. Handzus is a good fit. Havlat seriously needs to be the sniper he can be.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Havlat has never been a sniper…not sure what you were expecting from him but don’t expect him to score 40 goals.

by milanahalek on Dec 8, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he got like 60-70 points every year. O.o

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

So he’s good at sniping passes I guess. I always thought a Sniper was a goal scorer.

by milanahalek on Dec 8, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was mostly goals for whatever reason.

Didn’t we get him as a goal scorer?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, looks like he's 1:2, goals:assists.

I’m suddenly not shocked that we aren’t scoring much.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He was

Although like Thornton a strong majority of his points in his career are from assists.

by Briceratops on Dec 8, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

James Sheppard

Duh.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno. i see Mclellan getting fired before DW does.

by Khaaz on Dec 8, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't think it should be DW

but TMC. This is my opinion on the matter, that TMC has been riding the talent-wave and not managing the talent. Sort of like letting the players coach themselves. When a coach has all of that talent, but so often has to juggle the lines in games to try to get a combination that works, that isn’t coaching, that’s scramble-reacting.
The players are pros, and should be able to play in any combination with their talent. Something isn’t being taught, same problems over the last few seasons, and same low-key leadership.
Sharks need a coach (& staff) that wrings every last drop of talent out of every player’s potential.

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by Soloact on Dec 8, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

When the Sharks find that coach they'll be the first team to never lose!

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by idunno723 on Dec 8, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Can I be Sharks coach?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Hired

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by Soloact on Dec 8, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, top line...

McGinn – Pavelski – Wingels.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Stalock starts in net.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Where

does James Sheppard fit when he’s off of IR?

by bezzerkker on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

0th line.

He is an omnipresent force that wills the game to his desired form.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Holding the sticks too tight

Whenever I see lots of shots, lots of inside chances, and few goals, I immediately think “holding the sticks too tight.” This has been a theme with this team too. It’s no accident that the Fathers trip has brought them out of this in the past – the dads aren’t exactly telling them how to play, they are telling them “calm down, it will come”.

The “rep” this team has, of being under-performers, I think probably has a much bigger effect than we give credit for. When things go south, the guys start to worry. You see it in over thinking shots, you see it in Dan Boyle’s misery, and Jumbo’s flippant deflective interviews.

The difference between winning and losing in this incredibly even league is one or two missed opportunities in 60 minutes of play. Having a few guys stressing too much can definitely do that to you.

by psantangeli on Dec 8, 2011 10:03 AM PST reply actions  

^ I forgot to mention this.

We need a Sharks team that will ignore the pressure and take it in stride. It’s like when you show up to an exam you expect to fail in sweat pants and a crappy t-shirt, because you thoroughly do not give a shit, and then get an 80. It’s happened to me a few times.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

What Sharks ought to be:

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Its been a while since I’ve seen Patty make that face.

by Cloweture on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

No offense dude

But how do you know they are doing this? How are you able to diagnose them through the internet? Not trying to come off as a dick but just wondering.

by Briceratops on Dec 8, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I did a year of General Arts.

I KNOW ALL.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Second year of electromechanical engineering.

But this is after getting a one-year general arts degree and a year of psychology at two other schools.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

What is electromechanical engineering? Do they just combine electrical engineering and mechanical engineering?

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like mechanical engineering, but with a sweet ’80s synthesizer beat.

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by ievans on Dec 8, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Automation.

Hard to describe without being technical.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't know if you know this

But the Bay Area is full of pretty technical people.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry about that, haven't exactly been to California. :P

I ave a hard time explaining it to people outside my program here, so.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Geographist

Do you also think all people from New York are Italian cab drivers?

by Briceratops on Dec 8, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Italian cab drivers? What the hell? I thought all cab drivers were crazy Indian guys…

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What's a mattah you, ah?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, go ahead and describe it. I’m studying for a degree in EE actually.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Compared to electrical engineering, I wanna say electromechanical is more about the devices.

Electrical goes more into the fiddly electronics, with resistors, SCRs, capacitors, all that jazz. It goes more into the physics of it, and the nature of electricity. At least to my understanding, I don’t know many guys taking it.

Electromechanical does go over that stuff, but only briefly… Only as much as we really need to know. Most of the work I do (the vast majority, in fact) involves relays and PLCs. So. I guess it’s integrating a bunch of different components, and having them work with a sort of logic. We use ladder logic, which is essentially a series of parallel branches (horrible terminology) we call “rungs”. So, let’s say I wanted to build a burglar alarm. I might design a circuit that has a start button and a holding relay on the first rung to arm the system and keep it armed. That relay might have a contact on another rung containing the alarm system. Let’s attempt a crap diagram.

Rung 1 -—————-(Start)———————————————————-(R1)———-
(Hold) I——I I——-I
R1-1
Rung 2 -————-(Motion sensor)——I I——————————-(Alarm)——-
I I R1-2 I
I -——-I I—————-I I———(R2)——-
R2-1

So, in this circuit, the alarm would not go off until the start button has been pressed AND a signal from the motion sensor energizes the coil on Relay 2 (which holds the motion sensor’s signal). That’s REALLY basic, but in essence, we’re using electrical devices to program some kind of logical sequence into a circuit.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

..... Aaaaaaand it fucked up my spacing.

The relay contacts are supposed to be under Start and the Motion Sensor. The contact after the motion sensor is R1-2. There’s also a second relay in parallel with the alarm.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

do you guys use the term mechatronics at all

I just graduate with an ME degree with a concentration in Mechatronics

by slotownsharksfan on Dec 8, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes,

I have three mechatronics courses. The first bit dealt with more electronics, bridge rectifiers, bandwidth, all that fun stuff. Just finished the second one, which was more about automation devices and troubleshooting. The third one goes into wiring panels, motors, and three-phase power.

:D

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice to see that kind of diversity in the courseload

Being now almost 7 years removed from my undergrad, definitely wished I had more courses like that. I did Aeronautical/Mechanical engineering, and I’m not using any of the Aero stuff as I’ve moved more into mechanical.

As I go back to get my masters, I’m hoping to incorporate more of those kinds of classes as most companies out here need even their MEs to have some electrical knowledge. There’s very little pure mechanical engineering that goes on by comparison these days.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

To my undertanding, at least in Canada, this stuff is not taught at the university level.

Not sure what the schools are like down there, but the universities up here avoid hands-on training for everything, unless you’re far into a post-grad, and even then, the automation stuff just doesn’t exist at that level. If you can find a good community college that offers it, I’d definitely suggest doing a few credits… We have a few middle aged guys that, say, worked as mechanical engineers for years, and they need to upgrade their skills. They might take a couple of courses in Robotics, and maybe some PLC Applications while they’re here, just to be a more modernized worker. But automation’s a big industry right now. I mean. Last year, 95% of the grads from my program found full-time work within two weeks. Humber is probably the best school for this stuff in Canada, so that could be part of why, but there are so many jobs out there for us right now. It’s great.

But again. American system could be different. Our “higher” education is… Certainly that. Nothing much practical about it, unless you REALLY wanna be a doctor.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

You are right of course. None of us should offer opinions on our sports teams unless we have been in the locker room. Lighten up. You may not be trying to come off as a dick, but you are succeeding :-)

by psantangeli on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm just not a huge fan of internet psychologists

I’m willing to bet every player in the Sharks locker room cares about their performance and they know how to handle pressure considering most of them have been playing professional hockey for years.

by Briceratops on Dec 8, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you

Reasons such as “holding the stick too tight”, “reputation”, “lack of leadership” or whatever are just labels people like to give to explain normal occurrences that they don’t like.

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by idunno723 on Dec 8, 2011 11:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Lost the playoffs?

Canadian network conspiracy.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Lead into the best xkcd comic ever (which I probably post too much).

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by idunno723 on Dec 8, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Bullshit.

The Sharks just don’t want it enough.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally

I think it’s because of a lack of heart and other internal organs.

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by idunno723 on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Not grits?

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by Auth0r on Dec 8, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I do believe they are missing much of their digestive system.

Gutless, as the kids are saying?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

(Jokes)

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Some perspective...

By the way… we are 4 points out of first in on of the toughest divisions in hockey, with 2 or 3 games in hand versus all the other division rivals. Not EXACTLY time to panic yet!

by psantangeli on Dec 8, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

and a game against Dallas might be just what the Sharks need to get out of this rut. The last game against them was great, and the Sharks’ passion often shines through in games vs. Dallas.

by SlapSchott on Dec 8, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d hope people, at this point, aren’t worrying about whether the Sharks are going to make the playoffs or not. If last year taught me anything (last year’s team was not my favorite), the Sharks will win the division, and do ok in the playoffs. But, if we’re looking at this from a “Are the Sharks a Legit Stanley Cup Contender” standpoint, then it might be time to worry a bit…or at least be looking at how to change things up for the stretch run.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 8, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

According to @KKurzCSN

Murray and Vandermeer are both out (day to day injuries) while Niemi gets the start in net.

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by Mr. Plank on Dec 8, 2011 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

Left, less, who needs to make sense and use the right words?

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by Auth0r on Dec 8, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

ugh....

BAD PUNS!

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by ex_seraphim (Angelou del Angel) on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Ottomatic suspension.

We’ll hear about it toMorrow.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Which Morrow will gladly demonstrate in the...

…naw, too easy.

lol.

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by ex_seraphim (Angelou del Angel) on Dec 8, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You were about to go all Rennaissance Faire on us, forsooth.

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by ievans on Dec 8, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s NHL.com material right there

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by pooponastick on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Stars don't have Kyrs Barch anymore.

Easy Sharks win, confirmed.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

We need a WIN tonight, thats all. Don't jump

No major changes need to be made.

All this team needs is confidence and that builds on every win. The more they win, the more bulletproof their confidence will be.

By the way, this storm always comes about this time. Let it rain.

by BB129 on Dec 8, 2011 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

No, I'm not kidding you!!

Bringing in new players is not going to fix the PK- Guaranteed!!

Hard work will.

Confidence will

by BB129 on Dec 8, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe we have the right players on the ice

and also believe that major adjustments is not the answer. We have these players in SJ for a reason. Redefining their roles will not pay off.

Small adjustments to the system and simply believing in it will bring success. I agree with you regarding the coaches accountability (your post below). It is the coaches job to get the players to commit to the system and believe in it.

by BB129 on Dec 8, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Some of the blame should be on the coaching staff

such as the poor PK, the line combinations and defensive pairings and the fading PP.

by Tiberon07 on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

The defense and PK duties are Jay Woodcroft’s, taking over for Trent Yawney this year. Neither Yawney nor Woodcroft have done much to impress me on those fronts. We don’t have a tight D 5-5, and that spills over to our PK, whatever the scheme. Now, Boyle suddenly losing his game isn’t Woodcroft’s responsibility, but the issues with our defense go beyond one or two players. We don’t have a cohesive team defense.

The GM did his job over the summer to shore up our back line and 3rd/4th forward lines. Entering the season, we all expected that this year would show an improved defense. That hasn’t occurred, and I think a good chunk of the blame has to fall squarely on the coaching staff’s shoulders.

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by ievans on Dec 8, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm really puzzled by this

As Doug Wilson has always taken very careful notes on how other teams beat us, particularly playoff opponents and Championship teams. Most, if not all the teams that fall in this category have very aggressive penalty killing units and a real concerted effort to team defense.

Joe Thornton’s defensive renaissance notwithstanding, I really feel as though our team has been playing very PASSIVE defense the past two seasons, particularly on the PK.

This is why I’m not a fan of the 1-3 scheme. It doesn’t fix the problem. It just seeks to mask it.

While I like the addition of Handzus, and the hard work he brings, plus the aggressive style he employed in LA, I think of the past two Western Conference winners: Chicago and Vancouver. Chicago employs Toews and Hossa on the kill, and Vancouver employs Kesler and Burrows. These are top players who play very aggressive PK games. By contrast, Marleau and Pavelski seem to be very passive, often dropping back and not challenging the point (something that ALWAYS seems to happen to our PP). And despite their deeper positioning, they still let off a lot of dangerous cross-ice passes and let the puck get to the net.

I we truly are meant to be built to beat these teams, how come we don’t seem to take this page out of their book?

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with most of what you said...

Pavs is not as passive as you…Marleau, absolutely.

Could Thornton-Pavs be our Toews/Hossa or Kesler/Burrows?

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by Dmitriy on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Pavelski can be good when he challenges the point

Both he and Marleau are excellent shorthanded threats for that reason.

But my issue with Pavelski on the kill is when he covers the slot. He very frequently makes bad reads. He’s often too high to take away the middle, particularly when the D-men are engaged away from the front of the net. This could be a chicken-egg issue with the D-men letting themselves get drawn out of position, so who knows. EVERYONE has to be better in that case.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

no show pat

where the fuck has he been?

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by Wreckonized on Dec 8, 2011 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

On one of his cold streaks, I guess. Nice that we’re paying someone 7 million that disappears for large stretches of time.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I will never understand the lack of love Patty gets around here.

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by ievans on Dec 8, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Patty.

Guy has a beast mode. He uses it approximately half the time. He rarely has a BAD game.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that might be the least awkward picture of Patty I’ve ever seen!

by milanahalek on Dec 8, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Then rec it.

You monster.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah wtf...

He’s like the 3rd best goalscorer in the country, and nobody knows about him.

You put him in New York? EVERYONE would be sucking patty’s nuts.

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by SeanCrosby87 on Dec 8, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand the unwavering love he gets from some

It’s just the nature of our fanbase.

When Patty is on, he’s all world. When he’s not on, he’s an all world disappointment.

He is The Sharks.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not unwavering, but the guy is a great player.

I think your expectations are unreasonable. You want him to be something that very, very few players can be: a game changing player every game, more or less. There are a handful of those players in the league.

He’s like Iginla or Hossa or Kane. We’re lucky to have a goal-scorer of his caliber. Truly.

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by ievans on Dec 8, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying he isn't great

But Hossa and Kane? I dunno about that.

But I guess that’s bitching about not having an A when you have an A-.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not Kane, but Hossa is quite accurate I’d say. Is Hossa slightly more talented? Maybe offensively… but he’s just as streaky. Defensively, I think Patty is better than Marians.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd only say not Kane because Kane's younger and doesn't get fed from Thornton...

Patty’s been unreal at times though… he turns on the jets in the 2nd half like the rest of the club.

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by SeanCrosby87 on Dec 8, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the only reason people would consider Hossa streaky

Is because of his injury history. The fact is, he is one of the most dominant offensive players, game in and game out, and at least the past two seasons, he’s miles better on D than Patty. But then again, a daffodil has been better on D than Patty the past two seasons.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Hossa has one 100 point season (on the nose) and one 92 point season. All the rest are 60-80 points.

Kane has had one 88 point season, the rest in the 70s. Marleau is a better goal scorer, by far. Huh? Yup, Kane’s career high in goals is 30.

Marleau’s career high is 86 points. Most of his career post-lockout he’s been a 70-75 point player, good for 35 goals or more.

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by ievans on Dec 8, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

cold streak or not

hes been almost invisible the last couple games.

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by Wreckonized on Dec 8, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, that's a good thing

Plenty of players have been noticeable, but in a bad way. At least he hasn’t managed to do that…

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Patty needs to play center, otherwise he seems to fall asleep a bit and forget to move his legs. It’s probably why Mclellan dropped him to the 3rd line, though i don’t know if he’s centering the 3rd line or playing wing.

by Khaaz on Dec 8, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

This is gonna be interesting.

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Dec 8, 2011 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

anybody know a summer residency program anywhere that teaches animation?

SVA’s doesn’t, darn. I mean, New York. Come on. I’m looking for a career changer, continuing education type deal.

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Dec 8, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the spin...

And agree that this team will pull their collective heads out and start to play like a team again. Perhaps this upcoming road trip is just what the doctor (Proctologist) ordered? As for the overall demeanor of the team (and this is just my perception) I wonder if the passive nature of Marleau, Boyle and Thornton to some degree, sets a tone of complacency when it comes to the teams overall intensity and play? I love Jumbo and Patty for their many talents on the ice, but sometimes I’d like to see them get more aggressive: Patty forechecking more or pushing back more or standing in front of the net more. I’d like to see Thornton charge the net more slam people into the boards more and get more feisty. Perhaps this has nothing to do with their failures in the playoffs over the past decade, but that is my only complaint about the leadership of our team. I’ve reached the point where they will have to prove to me (by getting to the Stanley Cup) that they truly want it so badly that they’ll do whatever it takes to win. I have my doubts, but hope they prove me wrong.

by 1 and done on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

W I N

Please!

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Dec 8, 2011 3:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Liking the Raycroft start but..

..we make any goalie look good so..

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Please crush the Stars

It’s what they deserve for leaving Minnesota.

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by JDesthubert on Dec 8, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

As long as it doesn't happen...

….in the post-season.

Our GM,
who art in the front office,
on Conn Smythe be they name.

by ex_seraphim (Angelou del Angel) on Dec 8, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy hell.

Detroit’s up 5-0 on Phoenix.

After the first.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

Itallics fail.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone is so concerned about the defense and special teams PK in perticular

but what about the lack of scoring…….. and bad goaltending……
the goaltender needs to play a 60 min game as well. Niemi is horrible playing the buck behind the net. i swear half the time he touches it he leaves the defense out to suck it up in the corner

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by Wreckonized on Dec 8, 2011 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

The lack of scoring’s been a thing for awhile now. Seems like every team they play has a “hot hot” net minder.

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by Merope on Dec 8, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The defense was completely retooled in the summer

The team’s cap space went towards improving it. So when a $6M+ guy like Boyle is having a bad year, and a future cornerstone in Burns isn’t quite as sound defensively, it’s a problem. The team’s strength was supposed to be it’s strength, and it’s become a weakness.

The penalty kill was a problem last year, and it’s only gotten worse.

As for lack of scoring, part of that is the bad defense. No one is contributing to the offense, and it’s resulting in bad defense.

And bad goaltending? Niemi had a rough start, but he’s been fine or better than fine since. Of all the problems we have, BAD goaltending is not one of them. Niemi is a frustrating goalie, but he is not a bad goalie at the moment.

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by ElvisVF101 on Dec 8, 2011 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck Dallas.

It is that thing that I sent to you.

by whine_country on Dec 8, 2011 5:40 PM PST reply actions  

No thanks. They probably have diseases and stuff.

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by Merope on Dec 8, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

All right then.

Have fun tonight!

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by whine_country on Dec 8, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Anisimov scores the tiebreaker for NYR;

Uses stick as rifle to shoot Tampa’s goalie.

Disgusting.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

juvenile
gee whiz especially since those people were shot in Virginia today.

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by Merope on Dec 8, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Copy/Pasta'd from Litter Box Cats:
@wyshynski: Did Anisimov glance over at the HBO cameras before the celebration? Or did he already know where they were?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

its weird how people make such connections

not like it happened in tampa or newyork

while what happened in VT was sad, like briceratops said, people get shot every day

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by Wreckonized on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I highly doubt that VT was on his mind at the time.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Just tweeted this but I'll mention it here,

I figured out how the Sharks can fix the PK. Score so much on the PP that everyone else’s PK% reduces dramatically.

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by idunno723 on Dec 8, 2011 6:18 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Florida wins 2-0.

Jose Theodore played what may have been the best game of his career. Seriously falling in love with this team.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 6:35 PM PST reply actions  

Yep.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw

by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Total slackers. And that’s why they won’t be an elite team.

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

oh crap, basketball is back? poop. Soon I’ll have to play “where’d they put the Sharks?”

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by Merope on Dec 8, 2011 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

They're actually having a season?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what the man on the radio just said. When the Kings and the Sharks play at the same time we have to go looking for the Sharks game.

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by Merope on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, Sacramento Kings

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by Merope on Dec 8, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

aka: The team that never does anymore...

Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."

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by SeanCrosby87 on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Off subject but

is anyone watching Roethlisberger play on one leg that dude could play in the NHL

by Jones84HOF on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

Who?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh.

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He and Vandermeer are day-to-day

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

perfect timing..

against these trolls

Haters Gonna Hate

by Wreckonized on Dec 8, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard out.

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by Merope on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Lakers?

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a bit confused about that myself. Owners complain… league rejects a seemingly legal trade.

This isn’t exactly a Pau for Kwame Brown kinda trade. That sort of trade would be ridiculous if it had actually happened. Oh wait…

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Game thread anyone?

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by Evil Stanchion on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

Umm

One is scheduled but I’m not sure when it’s going up.

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by idunno723 on Dec 8, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

El thread de game es no presente?

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by Alex Houston on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

That would be "de partido"

Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."

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by SeanCrosby87 on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Grassy ass por favors

You speaka da good spanish.

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by Alex Houston on Dec 8, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Baba da boopidy! Da boopidy da baba da!

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by Matthew_Taylor on Dec 8, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Meet George Jetson!

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by Bockerz on Dec 8, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

El thread esta ariba!

Fear the Fin: "I've always said that if you don't have the motivation within you... It's not Doug Wilson's job to motivate me. I've got motivation within myself, especially going through some of the experiences that I had last year." - Nick Petrecki

by Matthew_Taylor on Dec 8, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT

"Duh duh... duh duh... duh duh... Salsa shark! We're gonna need a bigger boat! Man goes into cage, cage goes into salsa. Shark's in the salsa. Our shark." - Randall Graves
The Lone Niclas Wallin Fan

by JakeBot on Dec 8, 2011 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

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