Benn Ferriero gives San Jose Sharks 1-0 series lead over the Detroit Red Wings
by FTF Staff on Apr 29, 2011 11:36 PM PDT
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PrintWith Jimmy Howard bringing his A game in the second period tonight, and the Sharks trailing the Red Wings 1-0 heading into the third period, it was easy to think back to previous game one outings at HP Pavilion. Miika Kiprusoff in 2008, Jonas Hiller in 2009, Craig Anderson and Antti Niemi in 2010-- all stellar goaltending performances which stymied a San Jose attack that, despite the scoreboard, had brought their "A" game as well.
It took until 10:22 of the third period for San Jose to finally break through. And sure as day it was Joe Pavelski coming through once again. With the Sharks on the power play midway through the period, and time winding down in the ever-important first game of the series, Joe Thornton rifled a slap shot from center ice that Howard managed to fight off into the air. Pavelski, channeling his inner Buster Posey, swatted the puck out of the air and into the net for San Jose's first tally of the night.
"Guys were hungry, we seemed to get a little better each period," Pavelski said. "They're a good team, it could have gone either way at times. Definitely we finished."
As the game headed into overtime you got the feeling Pavelski, who has made a name for himself with timely postseason scoring, would be among the front-runners to seal the game in the extra frame. It was either that or a player such as Joe Thornton, Ryane Clowe, Dany Heatley, three Sharks forwards who had good games up until that point and gotten their fair share of chances to crack Howard already.
As it turns out, the hero wouldn't be a first line player. It would be a player who hadn't played a 2011 postseason game up until tonight, a player who had taken a mere one shift in the third period and was in the midst of his first of overtime.
Benn Ferriero, the birthday boy, scoring a goal that put the icing on top of San Jose's (as well as his) cake.
"You have to do the things you know have to do when at any time you may get called upon," Ferriero stated with a throng of reports surrounding his locker room stall. "Play solid and contribute, do the little things. Bring some energy to the game and be good on the forecheck. Basically play a solid game. You don't have to play flashy out there. I think I played pretty well tonight."
The San Jose Sharks are now 4-0 in overtime this postseason. And while it's hard to imagine a day when the fatigued "choke" label that dominates the mainstream media's coverage of the Sharks will subside, tonight was yet another example that this Sharks team has done their damndest to shake that label entirely.
From the drop of the puck in the first period, it was abundantly clear that San Jose had shaken whatever first round issues they had against Los Angeles. The passing was crisp, the defensive coverage was sound, and outside of plays that featured the excellent Pavel Datsyuk, the Wings never seriously threatened for an extended period of time.
Let us reiterate-- Datsyuk was phenomenal tonight, from his work on the forecheck to his dangles in open ice that made a few Sharks defenseman look mystified as he effortlessly moved around them. And he was the one who got the Wings on the scoresheet first, controlling the puck along the boards and sending a soft centering pass to Nicklas Lidstrom, who had jumped up into the middle of the Sharks defensive zone. The 41-year old Norris candidate made it count, hammering a shot past Niemi to give the Wings a 1-0 lead.
But it was from that point on that the Sharks began to control the play, using their big forwards to wear Detroit down on the forecheck and low cycle. The first through the third line controlled the play in this regard, and San Jose's ability to fend off the Wings with excellent puck control and methodical puck placement generated plenty of opportunities for the Sharks. It was exactly what led to their success during their series last year against Detroit, and something that San Jose has clearly highlighted as a key aspect to this series.
"They're a very good puck protection team. When they have an opportunity to get their asses out and protect pucks, they do a tremendous job at that," McLellan said. "Our play along the boards is going to have to be very important to counter that, to contain them. Vice versa, when we get into their zone, we want to protect the puck. You'll see in seven games, someone will get worn out because of it, whether it be our team or their team. I thought we did a very good job in the second period."
During the second San Jose outshot the Wings eighteen to nine. In reality, it didn't even feel that close. Although Detroit did have a few players who had strong outings-- Datsyuk's line played well, Bertuzzi had some chances, and Franzen was dangerous-- they didn't get the support from up and down the lineup that they expected.
Something that Wings Head Coach Mike Babcock touched upon in his customary straight forward and honest post-game pressers.
"I thought they were better than us. I thought we looked like a team that, especially up front, it didn't look like we skated very good. I thought they were quicker," Babcock stated. "I actually didn't mind my back end at all, I thought they had way too much wear and tear on them and [San Jose's] defense had a night off. We didn't touch them."
Speaking of San Jose's blueline, Dan Boyle returned to form tonight after a Kings series that he admitted to be one that he needed to improve on. The Sharks defenseman was extremely consistent in his own zone tonight, breaking up any Red Wings chances that came his way. His positioning was superb, and considering he saw a heavy dose of the Russian wizard Datsyuk tonight, that's a good thing for a player who San Jose will continue to give big minutes to going forward.
"I felt better, number one. From the get go, last series, I felt like I was just short of breath and really struggling," Boyle said. "Tonight I just felt healthy, had my legs going, and obviously I knew I was in for a good matchup with some of the best guys in the league there. I thought we did a good job of containing them."
Although San Jose put in a very good effort tonight, any talk of momentum going into game two would likely be premature. Detroit is a veteran club used to rebounding from less than appealing outings, and with a noon start on Sunday, they'll have an opportunity to strike back at the Sharks quickly. If San Jose continues where they left off tonight however, there's little doubt that a noon matinee could pay off dividends for a team looking to make a statement by holding serve at home.
The Sharks now have four overtime wins in seven games played this postseason, the first time they have won at least four OT games in team playoff history.
But with their sights set on another franchise record of greater importance, there's no rest for the weary just yet.
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Oh, to any Sharks fans in San Diego wandering in
I’ve seen a couple of instances in comment threads people suggesting FTF get-togethers… and then I’m not really sure if there’s an actual follow up to that). Let’s try to organize that for real at least once this round!
I think it’s pretty hard when the comment threads slowly get buried in the archive, and I can’t seem to find a way to PM other SBN users (someone correct me if I’m wrong). I’m going to give it an organizing try here (and put up a FanPost if this fails). If you’re reading this, are in town and interested, give me a heads up at fivefortysixam@gmail.com. I’ll try to round up a posse via e-mail…
What area are you moving to?
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by HeatersLeadingLady on Apr 30, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey! I went there for my undergrad!
Maybe I can help…
if you want I can give you my email?
I love Dany Heatley for his fantastic acting chops and his permanently dilated pupil.
by HeatersLeadingLady on Apr 30, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Sending you an email now!!!
I love Dany Heatley for his fantastic acting chops and his permanently dilated pupil.
by HeatersLeadingLady on Apr 30, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Sent you an email
Lets do a game two game watch!!!!!!
by SD_Sharks_Fan on Apr 30, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
After today, he can say...
Benn there, done that.
And that’s all I’ve got tonight. I’m too busy celebrating!
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by idunno723 on Apr 29, 2011 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
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Did you know? The Sharks have won 11 in a row & are 15-1 when Joe Pavelski scores in the playoffs.
Yowza
they also highlighted on the broadcast that he’s 2nd all-time in Sharks playoff goals ( well behind Marleau, but just passed Cheech!)
by a10dency2ask on Apr 30, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I had to listen to this game in between spurts of 3G coverage coming through the grapevine. I lost connection for a long stretch at the start of the PP in OT. I told my wife “if this game is still on when I get reception again, the Sharks are going to lose. They have to score on this PP.”
Man, I’m glad I was wrong on that one!
It sounds like the Sharks dominated, is that how it looked? How was the officiating? We had a 6-2 PP advantage, was the shot advantage caused by all the PP’s, or was it the Shark’s skill causing the Wings to take penalties?
And, jeez, can we just smoke a goalie for once in a series?
Weirdness?
Our best game so far of the postseason. Gave up only one goal against a much stronger Red Wings team, when we surrendered multiple goals every single game against LA.
Not an unusual tendency...
…to play up/down to your opponent. The sharks were guilty of playing down to the Kings at times. Definitely played their most responsible hockey of the playoffs so far. And I dare say (admittedly I did not see the first 28 minutes of the game) that was possibly Wallin’s best game as a Shark. He made some defensive gems in the 3rd and 0 d-zone turnovers that I saw.
I would rather be happy than right any day.
by SouthBayernMunchen on Apr 30, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOT
Go Sharks! Fun game to watch, if they get that many shots and chances a game, they’re bound to get more goals. However I expect some better games from Detroit.
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correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldnt that say sunday at noon, not saturday?
and with a noon start on Saturday, they’ll have an opportunity to strike back
anyways good breakdown of the game. thought we played a strong game on every line. even that forth line impressed me far more than last series.
by tealstherealdeal92 on Apr 30, 2011 12:10 AM PDT reply actions
Sour grapes
Check out the very end of this thread:
http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2011/4/29/2143583/3rd-period-game-thread-wings-sharks
Its obviously the temperature...
…that was my favorite conclusion from the thread. Obviously the Wings would have destroyed the Sharks had it been 62F (Detroit’s temp yesterday) and not the sweltering 68F it was in San Jose! Fortunately the Sharks have pontoons on their skates to protect them from the epically boggy surface.
The diving accusation, is fairly sparse. Does not look like the regs over there give it much credence.
I would rather be happy than right any day.
by SouthBayernMunchen on Apr 30, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
We should all be ashamed of ourselves....
“I’d rather lose than win like that. I couldn’t root for a team like that. Take the fall! Act hurt! Get indignant!”
After reading the comments, I now realise that The Sharks are literally the worst team in the NHL, who can only steal games from more deserving teams via a combination of diving and blatant ref-bribing. So begone! low-browed purveyors of under-handed skulduggery and nefarious tactics, and ahoy there, ye noble, chisel-jawed protectors of the unsullied flame. For is it not written, “Hockey, thy name is Detroit”?
by LimeySharkFan on Apr 30, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Butters! She pretends to be a fan of every team while pissing off their fans. Though I’m torn on actually cluing Det fans in on this, it’s fun to watch them squirm with her.
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How do you dive when a goaltender swings at you against the crossbar?
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by Juicy_Couture_39 on Apr 30, 2011 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems weird that the other teams in the NHL don’t try this “diving” trick. If it guarantees wins in this way, why didn’t phoenix try to get a game or two with some diving in the last round?
It’s always interesting how much our fandom gives us an unshakable bias. This goes for all us sharks fans as well.
by a10dency2ask on Apr 30, 2011 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
nice quote from someone over there, concerning the officiating:
“It’s not that he’s clueless. It’s that he’s IN ON IT. Bettman wants a different city to win the cup every year. You really think Carolina, Anaheim, Tampa Bay, etc. etc. etc. are all just winning the cup haphazardly and randomly as the years go by. Hockey is going through a sad stage right now, and the cup is going to settle in Vancouver/San Jose/ or Washington no matter how good any of the other teams are. The refs will see to it”
Well, if they’re so convinced that they’re going to lose… why should I spoil it? :p
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Look at what they say about Niemi.
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by Noctro on Apr 30, 2011 5:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow, talk about rose colored glasses............
how does Wallin bite his chin………….he was cut under his chin…………not his lip as the WWE officianados would have us to believe………….
to be honest
I wouldn’t mind if the Sharks were playing dirty. If that’s what it takes to win, so be it.
by a10dency2ask on Apr 30, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It's just amazing
We can outshoot them almost 2-1, and by all rights the game should have been a blowout but for amazing effort by Howard, and they’re still blaming the refs.
Some FTF’ers at tonight’s game
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by puppysoldier on Apr 30, 2011 12:47 AM PDT reply actions 9 recs
Put this together on BART as I scrambled to make it to SJ from SF after scoring last minute tickets
My phone literally died as I hit “Post”. Oh well, still worked!
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by CloweMyWord! on Apr 30, 2011 1:10 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Good win...
Definitely surprised that the Sharks seemed to pretty much carry play throughout the game. I was getting a little worried as the game wore on, and we weren’t scoring…afraid the Sharks were going to blow a game against Detroit that they were clearly dominating. Can’t do that. And they didn’t. They got the timely goal from Pavelski, got the game to OT, where we are money so far this offseason. Needless to say, this game quelled much of my nervousness I had going into the series. I mean, the Sharks looked MUCH better than they did in any game against LA. So that’s encouraging.
Sharks have now won 8 of their last 10 against the Wings. Dare I say we might actually have their number? Nah, not yet. Defending home ice on Sunday would be a nice next step towards that end, though.
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agreed
we might not have their number yet, at least officially, but I’m pretty comfortable saying that they don’t have ours. :)
why is it that only when we play the red wings our team gets called a bunch of divers?
anyway, wish i could’ve watched the game, but I was working. So called we pulled it through though! If I remember correctly Ferriero had a big goal in detroit earlier in the year. Was that his first NHL goal then or did he score earlier? anyways, he seems like he just knows how to score against the wings. can’t wait for game 2. GO SHARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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… cannot possibly hope to win in a fair contest. If the Perfect Red Wings happen to lose, it’s not because the other team is better; it’s because the other team is a bunch of cowardly, diving, cheating, cheap-shotting bastards, and Gary Bettman has personally intimidated the referees into looking the other way.
Everyone else in the league is jealous of Detroit’s brilliance, and we’ve all been envious of them ever since Steve Yzerman founded the NHL in 1996.
by BleedBlue42 on Apr 30, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The thought of Gary Bettman personally intimidating anyone made me chuckle.
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Proving that at least one Red Wing fan has his tin foil hat on.
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That's something I also find interesting
as far as I know, the Sharks are never called divers from any of the other teams, at least not on a regular basis.
I’m sure we do embellish things a little bit from time to time, but who doesn’t? That’s what you do to get the refs to notice! If you get hit or something in such a way that you feel is a penalty, you dress it up a bit so the refs take notice and call it. They probably do on occasion, but I doubt they do it consistently or often. I rarely see anything in which I think the Sharks are milking something.
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Blame Mike Babcock
for accusing Seto of diving in game 1 last year, even though he is from Western Canada and therefore above such petty displays of mortality. Ever since then Wings fans have clutched onto this like it was the last lifebelt from the Titanic – Sharks win a boarding penalty? DIVERS! Slash called on Eaves? DIVERS! Sharks tie the game on a PP? DIVERS!
Sharks win in OT? Well, we killed the 4 minute PP that just preceded that but our guys were gassed and anyway it wasn’t a penalty in the first place so…DIVERS!
by LimeySharkFan on Apr 30, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Sharks win in OT? Well, we killed the 4 minute PP that just preceded that but our guys were gassed and anyway it wasn’t a penalty in the first place so…DIVERS!
lol, rec’d for this, b/c that is EXACTLY what they’re saying
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You know they did something right
when Tomas Holmstrom’s name isn’t listed at all in the article or the comments (present one notwithstanding). I thought the Sharks D did a really good job of disrupting his game tonight – when he tried to set up shop in front of the net, a defenseman would always disrupt him enough that he never really seemed to establish his presence there.
I liked how the Sharks took control of the game from the outset as well – those first 5-8 minutes were filled with tons of great opportunities and Howard was on top of his game early and prevented a potential Sharks outburst until Detroit was able to recover and get the first goal.
Also have to mention that I loved the physicality displayed tonight. Seto was throwing his body around and Patty was finishing a ton of checks (wuuuut?) and it should pay dividends throughout the remaining games of this series.
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I remember being surprised at one point on the PK Murray was chasing Datsyuk around while Boyle was battling Holmstrom in front of the net, and it seemed to be by design. Maybe Boyle being able to get lower actually helps him uproot Holmstrom?
I noticed that too
It seemed that Boyle and Co. did just enough to not allow Holmstrom to get comfortable. I hope they’re able to keep this up.
Also, I remember being surprised at one point when Murray fell down. Albeit I think it was after he delivered a check, not receiving it, but surprising nonetheless.
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by Rhapsody in Teal on Apr 30, 2011 3:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I gotta say, I thought Wallin actually looked pretty good tonight. I thought he’d be a liability on the ice for us but I thought he had a pretty good game.
Totally agree. Can’t complain about him at all.
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by sharks in oc on Apr 30, 2011 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Was just sayin that
Its one game, but he really stepped up last night. I saw lot of devotion to making the safe play last night. Especially in the 3rd.
I would rather be happy than right any day.
by SouthBayernMunchen on Apr 30, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Hw was also jumping in offensively at smart moments too. Overall strong performance.
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by sharks in oc on Apr 30, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
took the words right out of my mouth
he was choosing excellent times to jump into the play offensively. he also had to face that 2 on 1 in OT that he played perfectly and didnt even allow a shot let alone a pass. wallin had a fantastic game
by tealstherealdeal92 on Apr 30, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely
He was getting lots of pucks on the net, but he was also being defensivley responsible (for Wallin).
Niclas Wallin is adequacy at it's best.
by DiscoSemenov on Apr 30, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought so too
I know he had his lapses against the Kings, but this was the kind of game I was expecting of him. He’ll probably cough up the puck a few times in this series though, but I think he’ll improve from the Kings series like anyone else and play more up to his potential. That’s the main reason I’m voted to keep him in over Braun.
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Last Night
Felt like this team was shaking off the first round and reemerging as the Sharks of Feb-April. The Sharks played tight defensively against a strong Detroit team, out shot them, battled hard and was perfect on the PK. It was a little worrying that they couldn’t score on Howard after 2, but there was a sense of “Its going to be ok.” Pavelski, Mr. Clutch, American Hero came through once again to tie it up in the 3rd. Then in OT, Birthday Boy Benny Ferriero does what every player says needs to happen; “just get the shot to the net.” Low and behold, it goes in.
I’m not sure why, but once OT comes along the Sharks enter bloodied waters. They’re on loose pucks, they’re taking shots from all angles, cycling the puck and playing some solid defense. Their play carried over from a solid regulation and they were able to get it done. What a game, what a win. Its going to be a heck of series! I just think theres something special about this team.
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by SouthBayernMunchen on Apr 30, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
If this game is an indication of how the series will go,
hockey fans are in for a treat. great game, lots of close plays, and a ton of skill out there.
one thing that really stuck out to me, and has been mentioned before the game as a possible factor, is that San jose truly applied pressure and looked dangerous with 3 lines all night, while detroit was really a one trick pony; datsyuk being his usual supernatural self, and zetterberg, even at 75% being dangerous but not much consistent pressure from the other 3 detroit lines. Helm is usually disruptive with his speed, but i thought the sharks defense did a phenomenal job of slowing down the rush and keeping the game in front of them. if san jose can keep up the depth play they are bringing, i like the way it plays out.
Amazing the rap san jose now has with detroit fans for diving after One comment by Babcock last year about setoguchi (on a play where he may or may not have gone down soft…). lots of venom towards sharks in general for being divers. pretty funny stuff.
great to see Pavelski is renewing his reputation as public enemy no. 1 for detroit fans. amazing to me as a sharks fan how anyone can hate a guy like JoePa, but tables turned, i could see how they would hate his glorious clutch-ness.
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2011 9:28 AM PDT reply actions
Easy there
It was game 1 of the WC semis.
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Right
Howard almost stole this one. We can’t be planning parades yet. This isn’t British Columbia after all.
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Yup, that’s the flip side. In OT, all it takes is one bad deflection (Benn’s goal in our case) and bam, you’re dead. The Sharks carried play, but Detroit came very close to winning. Each game is going to get harder and harder.
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At one point late(ish) in the game
Randy mentioned that both Cleary and Franzen were at a zero shot count – anyone know if that stat held up?
Also, can I just say that I loved the way Brad Stuart hurled his stick away in disgust, as if it were personally to blame for the goal going in. I’m only surprised that he didn’t go over afterwards and shake his fist angrily at it…
Cleary & Franzen
Neither of them recorded a shot in the game.
by milanahalek on Apr 30, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Could be wrong here, but I think it hit the other Wing’s stick as well as Stuart’s on its way in.
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It might have hit Kronwall's stick too
But I think it hit Stuart’s stick and deflected off the ice and in. Whatever… it went in is all that’s important.
Also, can I just say that I loved the way Brad Stuart hurled his stick away in disgust
That being said, I loved this too, but not in a sadistic, rubbing salt in the wounds sense. He played his ass off in that shift and dived face first to prevent a scoring chance in the 4:00 minute PK. I still remember seeing the Sharks drafting this fat kid 3rd overall and wondering to myself what the hell Dean Lombardi was thinking. Then he scored in his first career game ever and he was expected to have huge offensive output and murmurs of future Norris potential were even bandied about. That never quite came to fruition, but I like seeing how his game has evolved and become much more balanced. He’s way more physical, plays with a slight edge (he’s kind of a dick… and I mean that as a compliment, I really wouldn’t mind if he were back on this team), and that passion he plays with manifested itself in wanting to destroy that stick for deflecting it.
Okay, I lied, I do enjoy the sadistic aspect as well.
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I'm surprised
Red Wings fans didn’t complain that the refs didn’t call a penalty on the puck for diving on it’s way to the goal.
by ruben398 on Apr 30, 2011 11:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Honestly, when Randy said that
They were cycling in the offensive zone at that time, and I expected the Wings to win it right there. At least say that AFTER they finish their shift. Yeesh.
I know,
Superjinx, right? Whenever he feels the need to say something like that, I wish Drew would just belt him round the ear…
by LimeySharkFan on Apr 30, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Great article
Go sharks.
whatever happened to Cameron Gore by the way? I haven’t seen him around here for some time…
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by sanjosesharksfan on Apr 30, 2011 10:12 AM PDT reply actions
He got hired by Hockey Buzz
He replaced Ryan Garner as their daily Sharks reporter.
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good riddance. I tried to be supportive and like him and everything, but his articles weren’t very good as far as I was concerned. ANd he didn’t interact with us and he didn’t seem to have a sense of humor. He was not a good fit for FTF imho.
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I thought his articles were all right.
Maybe he didn’t interact with the FTF community, but I thought his articles were alright though.
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by sanjosesharksfan on Apr 30, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
They weren’t the type of article I’ve come to expect from FTF.
They read like something I’d find in the Merc. He just wasn’t a good fit.
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Agreed,
and he’s STILL spelling Ryane Clowe’s name Ryan. Can someone make him spell it right? It’s driving me nuts!! He obviously didn’t listen to any of us here that pointed it out. Unprofessional.
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by MiniMiteMom on Apr 30, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
That drove me nuts!!!
But I agree with PNK. Didn’t care for his writeups.
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by HeatersLeadingLady on Apr 30, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He struck me as a journalist, not as a fan.
Bloggers need to walk that fine line of being both a fan and a journalist I feel.
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by PNK on Apr 30, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cam didn't last long enough for me to have a strong opinion on him
His articles needed a little formatting help, but who knows, maybe they could’ve gotten better if he had stayed on.
I think the problem is how he was brought in. He had no history with FTF before Plank announced that he was joining the staff, so we had no idea what his writing was like, and his articles didn’t help our first impressions of him. Compare to Ivano and mymclife, who were both long-time, respected commenters before they became staff — we accepted them simply because they had proven they were excellent writers and/or translators and noteworthy contributors to the community. For Cam, a guy who really hadn’t interacted all that much FTF prior to his hiring, he had a much higher mountain to climb to be accepted by us readers.
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Well he didn’t make much of an effort to become accepted as far as I could tell. Never responded to comments and had zero interaction with the group.
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So where did garner go? Never liked him.
by a10dency2ask on Apr 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully into oblivion
That guy was the worst. Anything goes right for the sharks and he will find some issue to harp on. Anything goes wrong for the Sharks and it’s “the window has closed” and the team is over the hill and has no chance to do anything this year.
Not that I really spend anytime on HB but when it’s a slow sharks news day it would be nice to have another place to read about the Sharks. I was kinda like who is this guy when Gore started making posts. He is not my favorite sharks blogger by any means, but he is infinitely better than Garner, so I am pleased.
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I seem to remember that Garner wasn’t a sharks fan, but an oilers one, which is why his articles were so critical. That’s not always a bad thing, but I think when someone is a “sharks blogger” everyone is expecting some sense of positivity or rooting for them to do well.
by a10dency2ask on Apr 30, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Garner rarely, if ever, portrayed the Sharks in even a neutral light.
And particularly hated Thornton and DW. Then he did something (I’ve heard gave out off-the-record information) a couple playoffs back and they pulled his credential. So he went super extra negative then stopped writing about them.
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Thing is
It’s just one game, and they’re already making it sound like they lost the series. We’re we not just in their forum a few days ago, and they were all calm, cool, collected, confident? But you go in there last night, and it’s “The end is nigh! Doom is upon us!”
Well if the Refs and Bettman will it so, it's gotta happen right?
Because they want to spread the Cup around to other cities LOL … =T
It’s pretty ridiculous how some of their fanbase believe how infallible their team must be.
That being said, it was just one game, and I don’t think Detroit will be dominated in the puck possession game throughout the series as last night showed either. It was definitely a winnable game for them based on Howard’s play, plus the Wings had a good amount of chances on their end too (like that puck that totally flirted with the goal line). I think the Sharks need to better themselves in getting in front for second chance opportunities as Pavelski showed.
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Our level of commentary goes way downhill after a loss, particularly a bad one. Reverse bandwagon and all. So comparing the sharp Wings fans visiting here (on their best behavior, I might add), and the butthurt whiners post-loss on their own blogs is pretty much apples to oranges.
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We’re we not just in their forum a few days ago, and they were all calm, cool, collected, confident?
Aren’t we just talking about measuring the sentiment in their forum? I wasn’t comparing to those visiting here, but you make a valid point about the reverse bandwagon effect and all. It is interesting though: When the Sharks lose, our fanbase tends to become Terry Murrays and cite how “we lost it because of our own play.” When the Wings lose, you seee a lot more of a blame game on weak calls, Gary Bettman, and our players moonlighting as the Silicon Valley Diving Team.
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I think it’s better to call out our own team then call the opposition divers and a bunch of other stuff. Their fans are either really stupid or they want to act like it. We played a solid game and limited their opportunities, so just accept the fact that your team lost to the better team.
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Just doesn’t make any sense to be complaining about the refs when you already know your team isn’t getting it done.
As a Raider fan as far back as the early 1970’s I thought griping about the officiating was just a long standing tradition.
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And sometimes justly even ie. the Immaculate Reception, Tuck rule thing against the Patriots etc. But the Raiders commit more than their share of dumb penalties too. Langston Walker is almost always good for at least one off sides and one hold per game.
Every single fan thinks the refs are against their team. I guess with Detroit its just even a little more.
by a10dency2ask on Apr 30, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Right. Sorry, I misread that. But I think my point still stands. The doom-and-gloomers don’t post much before a game or series, and then pop up like moles after a loss.
For whatever reason, the worst Wings fans are ultra-paranoid when they lose. Maybe it’s just part of the zeitgeist with the non-hockey world. But they definitely have a template for angry rants when lose to an “inferior” team.
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My little psycho-analysis take ont he subject:
Wings fans have a sort of superiority complex. They’re such a great team with such a great history that they can’t really wrap their heads around losing it seems.
I don’t mean for this to be a blanket statement about all Wings fans, so if they’re any out there that are offended, I’m nt necessarily talking about you. In fact I’d be interested to hear their thoughts on this.
But anyway, I feel like since they’re so used to winning and so used to having their players and team praised (deservedly) that when they don’t play great or when they get outplayed or play equally talented teams, they can’t seem to accept that they got deservedly beat. They blame things out of their control because they refuse to accept that their team is anything but winners and the best of the best.
Sharks fans on the other hand probably have an inferiority complex. We’re still a relatively young team (especially compared to the Red Wings) and all the success we’ve accomplished never seems to be enough. We’re called chokers and under-achievers, and get lambasted by the media and opposing fans. So when we fail we think it is a fault of our own.
That being said, I don’t think our success will ever be enough until we win a Cup and I do think when we fail it is the team’s responsibility, it is our fault (to a degree). With the talent we have on this team, we can’t make up excuses and blame other things because we have the ability to win. I think this is the more mature approach and one that is not unique to us or Sharks fans. Glancing at some of the other comments on WIIM, there are a lot of people with that mindset.
But Detroit has bad and immature fans just like everybody else. However, I think the way it manifests in Detroit fans is due to their success and inability to cope with failure.
That’s my little amateur-psychology lecture.
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by PNK on Apr 30, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i agree.
Being the best has so cemented itself in the culture and identity that anything that threatens that is attacked and pushed away.
Sharks have never been universally acknowledged as the best. We can deal with flaws. Wings fans? Not so much.
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2011 12:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I've got to disagree with this
Every fanbase has a segment of fans that blame things outside their control when they lose. And this was the type of game that will really feed into that sentiment, as it went into OT and was very poorly officiated. Furthermore, when we met last year, penalty calls favored you guys (you had 31 PPs to our 23, including individual game advantages of 10-4 and 6-2). Most of our fanbase (including myself) is upset about the Eaves slashing call (weakest call on the night), particularly since you scored the game-tying goal on it. That type of game is one that will get the fans who want to double down and make excuses out in force.
That said, we clearly did not deserve to win. You outshot us 46-25. The reffing was bad, but there were several weak calls on both sides and both sides got away with a fair amount of stuff. And the Abdelkader double minor was the most obvious penalty on the night and for that alone we deserved to lose the game (and of course he came back on the night and played some absolutely atrocious defense that allowed for the game winner). We were badly outplayed and lost because of it.
Just wanna say that
I agree the Eaves slashing call was super weak. But we didn’t score that, we scored on the much more obvious Todd Bertuzzi boarding Joe Pavelski. So it wasn’t a terrible call that evened the game up. That call came later and the Sharks didn’t score on it.
by WhatsAMataHari on Apr 30, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s the thing, though. Bad reffing applies to both sides (unless you believe in conspiracies). The team carrying play gets more calls going their way, and that’s what happened last year. Wings fans should understand this better than any other team, because they have historically drawn so many penalties (and that means that they draw more borderline penalties as well) because Detroit usually dictates play.
And after watching a lot of Wings playoff hockey over the years (because you guys play a lot of it), one bad call or mistake has never doomed the better team.
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I can’t really speak to the validity of the calls last night. I was at the game in the back row of the upper bowl and I had consumed quite a bit of alcoholic beverages. I was is no position to be analyzing the penalties, I was just happy to be getting on the powerplay.
That aside, I was speaking more generally to the mindset of some of your fans, although to be fair a good chunk of it is based upon reactions to last night’s game and last years series.
I appreciate your feedback, although I have a different perspective.
I see a lot of Wings fans point out the PP differential as if it is indicative of some sort of foul play by the Sharks or refs (diving and bad calls). Powerplays don’t have to be doled out equally to both sides of the ice, not even in the long run or series or several seasons. Like others have pointed out, more often than not, powerplays go to teams that are controlling the puck and tempo of the game, that are maintaining possession in the offensive zone and pressuring. That causes teams, even very skilled and talented teams, to make mistakes and take penalties.
Are there going to be blown calls? Yes. Are the blown calls going to favor one team or another from time to time? Yes. But are they insurmountable obstacles to the team on the other side? No. Are they often able to directly change the outcome of a 7 game series? No.
I can understand the frustration, but when I see fans (I’m not saying you are one of these fans) blaming these factors as the reason why they lost instead of looking at other areas of their team’s play which can be improved upon (and therefore minimize the chance of those factors even coming into play), it strikes me as immature and I think Detroit’s success has influenced that mindset into developing.
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PP differential
When there is a PP differential of 10-4, it means that one team is playing incredibly dirty or that the refs are messing up. My contention is that last year, the refs tried to call the series tight for several games and in doing so, called multiple illegitimate penalties. This heavily favored San Jose (and yeah, I think you guys were diving, but if it’s working I won’t begrudge that because that’s on the refs for being fooled).
There is a reason many refs call the playoffs looser than the regular season. In the playoffs, every PP is much more important than a regular season PP. And when you call a game tight, it increases the chance that you’ll give one team an advantage because you are going to miss more calls and make more bad calls, and some teams, like San Jose, are better at selling that they were penalized. And even if neither team is better at drawing penalties, then there still exists the chance that your mistakes will simply wind up favoring one team or the other by a significant margin.
Two things:
A differential of 10-4 could also mean that one team is dominating time in the offensive zone, so the other team is committing penalties to either prevent goals (tripping or hauling down from behind) or due to fatigue (holding, or stick fouls to try to clear for a change). Most penalties aren’t due to dirty plays.
You guys are literally the only opposing fans who accuse us of routinely diving or embellishing. I guess you’re still hung up on Setoguchi from last year, but do you remember Franzen begging the ref to call a 2+2 after he was high sticked by his own teammate? The Wings have players that try to game the system to their team’s advantage just like the Sharks. Selective memory is a powerful force among fans.
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Every team does
I’m just saying you are better at it. That’s not a bad thing.
As for dominating play in that game, you weren’t. During even strength play, you outshot us 25-24 (this may be slightly off, as I couldn’t find the listed stats, so I counted from a play-by-play), and my memory is that the teams were pretty even during such stretches. The problem is that the refs tried to call a very tight game and that wound up favoring San Jose for a number of reasons, the most important being that when you call a game tight, you are more likely to screw up and sometimes (including the game in question), such screw-ups will give one team an advantage. This advantage gives one team more control over the game and will lead to the phenomenon you described.
I commented that the slash was a terrible call last night, but that’s now what we scored on. We scored on a boarding call on Bertuzzi. It was boarding and the only complaint you might have against it is that Clowe did something similar that was uncalled earlier in the game. That may have just been a missed call, but on the other hand, Pavelski got called for roughing for getting punched in the face… so it’s not like they were just going after the Red Wings.
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Sorry. Not sure why I mixed those up. And no, I’m not mad about the boarding call. And I did say that the reffing wasn’t at all one-sided. It was just bad.
Just because it's always bothered me...
The “Apples and Oranges” phrase has always annoyed me.
They’re both fruit, they’re both full of sugar to attract animals to eat them, they both provide nourishment, they both provide the exact same function to the trees that grow them.
Essentially Apples and Oranges are, at the very least, directly comparable.
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by Evilducks on Apr 30, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
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by HeatersLeadingLady on Apr 30, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I see what you're saying, but...
They have different characteristics. What the saying means is in a discussion about the merits of apples, someone throws in an example of an orange.
Let’s say your discussing the the merits of crispness in relation to the taste of apples and all of a sudden you say, crispness isn’t important, this mandarin orange doesn’t have any crispness and it tastes great!
Frivolous arguments ftw.
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Sure, you can get nit picky about characteristics like that, but you can do that within just the Apple family.
Jonagold apples are often much softer than something like a Red Delicious but are also much juicier, meanwhile green apples can have a sour flavor while Ambrosia are very sweet.
I don’t see why we’re picking on Oranges here.
I think a better comparison would be something like Apples and Microchips. Now those things are far less related than Apples and Oranges.
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Personally, I think Honeycrisp are the best apples…
But that aside, true apples and mircochips are more different than apples and oranges, but it doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Also, usually people whip out the apples and oranges comment when someone mentions something not directly relevant to the specifics of the debate, yet still relevant to the broader subject as a hole.
In the above example you took affront to, they were discussing Wings fans in general and certain types of Wings fans specifically. Fruit being Wings fans and the more mature Wings fans posting here being apples with the immature whiney Wings fans on their own blogs being oranges.
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Okay, fair enough.
On another note, I saw Butters show up on Winging it in Motown pretending to be a Wing fan but predicting the Sharks would sweep them because they don’t match up at all to the Sharks.
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lol
I saw that too, then Bockerz outed her and she started claiming that Bockerz was a cyber stalker who follows her around everywhere telling people she’s a troll.
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Butters was trolling it up over at WiiM!
It was pretty reminiscent of when she trolled FTF!
who follows her around everywhere telling people she’s a troll.
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This.
The idea is that the two examples are superficially similar, but not really when you get down to the details.
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They’re fundamentally similar, and superficially different.
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It’s all dependent on context, like most types of speech. An orange may be fundamentally different than an apple if you’re talking about baking, for example. Possible additions to a kid’s sack lunch? Then, they’re fundamentally similar.
The idea is that it bringing up the qualities of oranges when you’re talking about apples presents a false analogy. Just because they’re both fruit doesn’t mean that they’re automatically similar, because it depends on the context.
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I like fuji apples.
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by HeatersLeadingLady on Apr 30, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuji Apples are delicious. Fuji Apples actually from Japan are ridiculously even better. I’m also really glad the Sharks won last night so we feel good enough to digress into this discussion about fruits.
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by idunno723 on Apr 30, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Watched the game on repeat (far too hungover to get up in the middle of the night) and I’m so relieved we got off to a winning start in this series.
There’s something about Detroit that makes me nervous about giving them any advantage, whether in the series itself or even in one game. Great to see we held them to one goal and managed to overturn their lead, let’s get some winning momentum going boys.
Oh, and big love to birthday boy Benn. What a present, eh? Go Sharks!
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(spent the night at this place my gf was housesitting)
A few thoughts:
1. WHOOOOOOOOOOOO! GO SHARKS!
2. First ever playoff game I’ve been to and it was a blast! I had a great time and I wish I could afford to go to another one…
3. As it was my first ever playoff and maybe my expectations were a bit too high, but I felt like the Tank wasn’t as loud, wasn’t as rocking as I expected. Yes, there were definitely times when it got really loud and everyone was going nuts, but there were also long periods of relative calm and quiet. I had a bitch of a time getting people to do the chants and get excited. The crowd just seemed out of whack. There were also a fair amount of empty seats (I’m blaming ticket prices). Oh well, I definitely had a great time and screamed and cheered my head off. Lost my voice partially before the puck even dropped and it’s pretty hoarse today.
4. Sharks played great and I’m really liking what I’m seeing. Lots of improvement over the LA series team-wide. If not for Howard having a great game, we win that 3-1 or 4-1.
5. Awesome that Ferriero got an OT GWG in the playoffs on HIS BIRTHDAY!
6. Also on the Ferriero goal: After all this debate with Red Wings fans about “which team has better scoring depth” I thought it was great that a fourth-liner who hadn’t played in the playoffs this year yet would come in for the GWG in OT. After he scored I thought to myself, “How’s THAT for scoring depth Detroit fans?”
7. I’m pumped for Sunday! We’ve got to play like we did last night, but even better. PP could use some work, we’ve got to get people in the eyes of Howard and crash the net to eat up any rebounds and get some deflections. Red WIngs are gonna come back with a vengeance and the D is prob gonna be more tested than it was last night. This won’t be an easy series and we need to keep that in mind.
8. GO SHARKS!
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I was also at the game
It was a good game to go too, but as far as the crowd not being into the game: it was a pretty hard game to get into. Three goals total, and the last two came in the last 20 mins of play (including OT). considering the long stretch of non scoring I thought the crowd did get up at the appropriate times.
Some of my thoughts from the game:
1. The booing after the Pavelski and Howard incident was among the loudest and most persistent I have ever heard while being at a game, lasting several minutes after the initial call and then coming back several more times after play had stopped. An awesome fan reaction to a totally BS call.
2. It maybe just me but I thought the crowd was pretty even keel for being down a goal for much of the game. There seemed to be the feeling that we were going to get the goal we needed at some point. It probably helped that we carried the play for long stretches at a time.
3. I always love the random shouts of “SHOOOT!” even thought we had almost double amount of shots as the red wings and ended up with more than 40. Also there was a guy in my section that seemed to think the only way to successfully play defense was to hit the puck carrier as soon as he enters the offensive zone. So I got a double dose of “SHOOOT IT!!!!!” and “HIT HIIIIIM!!!” all night long. That made me laugh.
4. I was really impressed with the sharks play, and in particular Seto. He may not be scoring in bunches but he is playing a consistently aggressive game. He was flying around the ice and causing lots of mayhem. He really seems to have matured his game.
GO SHARKS!
3 stars...
I didn’t see the game…my girlfriend was texting me score updates while I was on the bandstand playing a gig. From the highlights and the recaps I read it seemed that Jimmy Howard should have gotten a star last night.
Ferriero scores the game winner in OT I guess he deserves a star, but who was SJ’s best player last night?
Pavelski, I thought. Datsyuk was amazing, as usual. Howard made some unreal stops. If you look at the shot differential, Howard nearly stole the game.
by WhatsAMataHari on Apr 30, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have given the third star to Howard instead of Datsyuk, but the case could be made for either. And in a home game that the home team wins, 2 stars aren’t going to go to the visitors.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely Pavelski. He was the real first star of the night, but OT winners have that effect on people. Pavelski was always around the puck in the offensive zone, and really had good drives to the net. He seemed to just always be involved in important plays: one on one on Howard glove side, went in with speed in the offensive zone to draw a slewfoot from Hudler, drove hard to the net for a potential rebound which pissed Howard off because of a snow shower, but would he have preferred being run over instead?, drew a penalty from the boarding by Bertuzzi, made a nice drop pass to Thornton on the ensuing PP and then went straight to the net to swat in that rebound… I could probably find more if I had DVR.
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Pavelski was the best player on the ice for the Sharks, hands down. He threatened the Wings more than Datsyuk threatened the Sharks. He drew the penalty and tied the game in the ensuing power play. He caused havoc in the Wings zone all night. The Wings just don’t have an answer for that line without exposing even more dangerous lines to better opportunities.
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by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
JUST GOT MY TOCKET TO GAME 4
super excited. gotta represent at the joe! anyone else from around here gonna be going?
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Apr 30, 2011 3:45 PM PDT reply actions
If its a Rick Tocket...
…you can double them through epic gambling skill.
I would rather be happy than right any day.
by SouthBayernMunchen on Apr 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Tocchet? Double down?
You wanna make this interesting?
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Do you suppose
They had such an easy time against Phoenix that they thought it was going to be that easy all the way to the Cup? Maybe had visions in their heads of Yzerman, Fedorov and Coffey still ought there domnating?
No
and I don’t expect all the games to turn out like last night. I expect Detroit to come hard and fast tomorrow and wouldn’t be surprised by them dominating the game tomorrow.
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I expect the game to be difficult...
…because the Noon games always are tough. Tosses the clock off.
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by Noctro on Apr 30, 2011 11:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
These guys...
I hate fans like that for any team, getting all pissy and bitchy because shit isn’t going their teams way. You got beat, deal with it.
Red Wings fans like that are almost as bad as the MTL Canadiens fans that feel they should only win the cup because they are from Canada, and they invented hockey. Yeah… ok… right.
As for the Bettman conspiracy theory? yeah, that’s as believable as the ref bribing. Once again, you guys got schooled. Coulda been us. It was a good game.
Though I gotta say, it’s good to see Team teal playing like they were tonight: On a total tear and really getting under the ’Wings skin and pissing them off.
in TROY, NY, bleeding teal and black since '91.
"You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free. "-Denis Lemieux
"I'm glad Ben Eager found hockey first... If not, I would be afraid for society"
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4/19/11, a day that will live in infamy... for Kings fans.
- This was supposed to be in response to the comment w/ the links to the Wings forums where the conspiracy theories and diving accusations were in full swing.
i was kind of shocked that one of the mods over there was so standoff-ish to anyone from an opposing team.
in TROY, NY, bleeding teal and black since '91.
"You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free. "-Denis Lemieux
"I'm glad Ben Eager found hockey first... If not, I would be afraid for society"
-Plank, on FTF podcast 4/20/11
4/19/11, a day that will live in infamy... for Kings fans.
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