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by Auth0r on Apr 5, 2011 12:10 PM PDT
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I may end up regretting this as I fall down into a black hole of reading the NHL rule book, but I thought it might be helpful to have a place where people can ask about various rules and how they work.
I am by no means claiming to know all the rules or an ability to explain them clearly. I know a few of the ones that have come up lately, though, and figured I could at least get the ball rolling. I also have a link to the NHL rule book online (Here) and am somewhat familiar with how to read it to find answers to rule questions.
I'll try to answer or look up what I can if there's specific questions (and I bet there's more than a couple other people who can answer some questions I won't be able to) and provide practical examples where I can.
The first three I came up with are on the other side of the jump...
Call ups
The team may call up players as many players they want as often as they like before the trade deadline, so long as they remain under the cap. After the trade deadline, the team is limited to four call ups except in case of emergency. An emergency is only declared if the team will have fewer than 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, or 12 forwards (in other words, less than a full playing roster) at the time of a game. The team may not call up a player who does not have an NHL contract with them, regardless of that player’s association with an affiliated AHL team.
Practical example: The Sharks can run the Worcester Shuttle on a daily basis with as many players as they wish until the trade deadline. After the deadline, they must choose wisely and only call up players as needed; Mashinter replacing a suspended Heatley, Desjardins replacing an injured Nichol, etc. If half the team suddenly became sick, they could call up half the Worcester Sharks until the emergency passed without affecting the call up number after the deadline. They cannot call up Cheechoo because he has not signed a contract with the NHL Sharks, only the AHL Sharks.
Visors while fighting
This rule is multifaceted (read: confusing as heck). You are not allowed to START a fight while wearing a visor without attempting to remove it, if the other player does not also wear a visor. You are, however, allowed to keep your visor if the OTHER PLAYER starts the fight or if you both wear visors (though both are considered bad form). Referees are given the discretion to waive this penalty if a player is attempting to remove the visor but cannot get free long enough to do so. Note that many players who fight frequently forgo visors to avoid this rule (Clowe and Parros, for example). A big part of this rule is to prevent injuries caused by punching and potentially shattering a visor.
Practical example: Douglas Murray is attacked by two players. Dougie wears a visor, but because he’s being attacked, he doesn’t have to shuck his visor and probably doesn’t have time to do so anyways. Dan Boyle comes in and takes on one of the guys after Murray. Boyle also wears a visor and doesn’t remove it. He takes the penalty because he didn’t try to ditch the visor and "started" the fight between him and the person he is fighting.
Faceoffs
First and foremost, a goaltender may not take a faceoff (okay, I know everyone knew or could guess that). The linesman is expected to wait for all substitutions to occur, then blow his whistle to inform the teams that they have 5 seconds to line up for the faceoff (though jostling by the wingers/defenders and re-positioning by the centers can often make this take longer).
If one of the centers refuses to line up, he may be tossed by the linesman. If one or both centers refuse to put his/their stick down to the ice in the ready position, they may be tossed. If a player other than the centers encroaches on the circle, the center may be tossed. If the center or any other player makes physical contact, the center may be tossed. If a player lines up on the opposing team’s side of the ice, the center may be tossed.
If these things go on long enough (officially, two violations is enough), the team may be assessed a delay of game penalty, though it almost never happens. The linesman may also drop the puck if one player is ready and the other is not after 5 seconds. Similarly, if a player is tossed and his replacement is too slow to get into position, the linesman is allowed to drop the puck.
Practical example: Scott Nichol is about to take a faceoff. His teammates line up behind him, facing toward the opposing team’s goal and are careful not to cross over into the opposing team’s side of the faceoff circle. The linesman blows his whistle and Nichol skates quickly to the dot and gets into his stance. He leans forward, close to the dot and puts his stick close to the ice. His opponent, however, is trying to hold back and doesn’t come to get ready for about 5 seconds. The linesman tosses that player and his replacement comes in. The replacement isn’t as prepared for Nichol’s positioning and touches Scotty. He’s violated the faceoff rules and is also tossed. The linesman can assess a delay of game penalty, call for another player to replace the offender, or drop the puck while Nichol is the only one who can play it.
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This is super helpful!
Thanks so much. I hope we can continue to add to this list as time goes on and new questions come up.
Following the lockout, I read the entire 475 page collective bargaining agreement between the NHL and the NHLPA so if any “front office” type questions come up, I can potentially field them. For example, free agency, salary cap issues, per diem compensation for teams on the road, etc.
I am VERY thankful for this!!!!
Being very new still to hockey (only my 2nd year as a fan) and trying VERY hard to understand, I have a question about the players positions and what they entail. Such as the defence, right and left wings, centers etc. What do their positions mean that they can do within the game itself. I mean, I can tell the defence basically does that, esp. around the goalie net, but I am still confused about all of it. I just root on these men skating all over the place on the ice and would love to understand about the positions more. Any help I will be very thankful for!!!!!!!!!
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Aside from goalies, I don’t believe there are many rules limitations based on player positions. The names are much more about the roles those players play for their team. I’ll put them in simpler terms, though it definitely gets more complicated than this.
Centers are the ones who take faceoffs and essentially are the “leader” of their line.
Right Wings play to the right of the center. Often they shoot right-handed.
Left Wings play to the left of the center. Often they shoot left-handed.
Wingers in general tend to play closer to the boards than the other players.
Defensemen generally do what you said, focus on defense. They stay closer to the blueline on offense and closer to the goalie on defense.
Goalies are expected to stay near the net (in the blue paint called the crease) and have special protections there. They may play the puck anywhere in front of the net but are currently restricted to the trapezoid when playing the puck behind the net.
Other terms for players include:
Snipers are players who are more adept at shooting than passing. Heatley and Cheechoo often carry/carried this title for the Sharks.
Playmakers are players who are more adept at passing than shooting. Thornton and Pavelski are generally put into this category.
Power Forwards are larger players who are physical and go to the corners or behind the net to retrieve pucks. They’re often also players willing to fight. Ryane Clowe.
Enforcers/Goons are generally players who are considered to mostly contribute hitting and fighting to the team. Brad Staubitz or Jody Shelley would probably be in this category.
Shutdown Defensemen are generally an excellent defensive player who can frustrate other teams’ offense. Marc-Edouard Vlasic is probably the best current Shark example.
Offensive Defensemen are (shockingly!) defensemen who excel at offense. When on the power play, they’re often called Quarterbacks because they’re running the offense at the point. Dan Effing Boyle.
Wikipedia has a decent list of hockey terms here.
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I am starting to see the light....
thanks!!!
Ok, another question – 5 men at a time are out on the ice, and then they switch off with other “lines” is that what they call them I believe. Like the HTML (I learned that one here one time) when do they know to switch out these men? I am learning lots here, thanks! And my damn work computer wont let me like at Wikipedia here, so I will have to check your link out when I get home later.
I need to learn about the Blueline too. I have lots to study! whew.
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Timing is usually a sort of fluid thing for line changes. Players can call to the bench if they feel they need it and the coaches can call them off when they want them off. Generally, shorter shifts are better, so you’ll see them aim for 30-45 seconds.
As for who goes out when, teams tend to have a coach designated to doing mostly that. McLellan will usually pick for us and one of his assistants will tell the players and remind them when they’re up. McLellan does some of that, too, but he definitely delegates.
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Important Notes:
Five men on the ice typically consist of a “forward line” (three men; theoretically, Center, Left Wing, Right Wing) and a “Defensive Pair” (two men).
Forward lines, such as HTML (Heatley-Thornton-Marleau Line) often switch out as time allows, often resulting in “off lines” being on the ice (ie, if Heatley and Thornton make it off, but Marleau does not, then he’ll skate with two fresh guys until he can get to the bench).
Defensive pairs, from what I’ve seen, are more likely to head out together while the play is in the offensive zone.
Also, this isn’t set in stone – a coach can deign to put out, for instance, three D-men (with one filling a forward role) and two forwards. You see this when the team dresses 7 Defensemen on a night (instead of the standard 6, or three pairs). The Sharks did that quite a bit earlier this year, often putting Demers up on the 4th line.
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I have SO much to learn!!!!!
I like this thread so far! Its helping me BIG TIME! :-)
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Excellent post!
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hey what's icing?
:)
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
Thats another one that I am not sure of either – icing.
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Icing
is when someone on one team clears the puck from behind the center line and it crosses the goal line untouched by the opposing team. the opposing then touches the puck once it is behind the goal line, and this results in a face off back in the clearing teams zone.
It should be noted that the team guilty of icing may not switch lines before the faceoff, while the other team can switch personnel, which can result in mismatched lines.
This is why when the sharks are playing the dump and chase game, they always dump the puck from the area between the offensive zone blueline and the center line. If they did it any farther back, they would be getting called for icing and having to take a defensive zone face off against a fresh line.
Icing can also be waived off in several instances, these include: (stolen from wiki)
1. The team committing the icing is shorthanded, i.e. penalty killing.
2. The linesman believes a player on the opposing team (other than the goalkeeper) could have played the puck before it crossed the goal line.
3. The puck enters the goal. (for further reading, see owen nolan sniping roman turek from past center ice)
4.The puck is iced directly from a player participating in a face-off.
5.The goalkeeper leaves his goal crease and moves in the direction of the puck.
And finally (i think i have covered everything) if a player from the icing team gets to the puck after it has crossed the goal line first, patty marleau does this sometimes cause the man can fly on them skates, there is no icing and gameplay continues.
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oh wow.....
This I will have to read over several times in order to understand it! Thanks for sharing!!!
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A graphic might help
The size of the image makes it hard to read the words, but basically, the red lines are icing and the green lines are not icing
by WhatsAMataHari on Apr 6, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks!!!!! I thought icing was behind the net, guess I was wrong about that.
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Nope, but because in the NHL we play “touch icing” (the opposing team has to touch the puck once it has crossed the back red line, as opposed to international style “no touch” icing where no one has to race to touch the puck once it has crossed the line) the puck often will hit the curved part of the boards and drift behind the net before it gets touched. But this isn’t necessary.
by WhatsAMataHari on Apr 6, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
What a great idea for a thread? Can someone explain when it is legal for a non-goalie to touch the puck w/your glove
I am thinking in particular of Couture’s recent goal where he batted the puck which was flying through the air down to his stick and then shot it in.
by the_french_connection on Apr 6, 2011 3:15 PM PDT reply actions
It’s actually legal most of the time. There are just certain things you cannot do with it. You cannot use it to pass to a teammate (even unintentionally) in the offensive zone (but it is legal in the defensive zone). You cannot close your hand around the puck to “hide” it. You also can’t touch the puck with your hand on a faceoff, but doing that seems like it’d be pretty hard and I don’t know if I’ve ever seen it called. You can score a goal off the hand, but you cannot grab the puck and throw it as that would fall under the “Closing the hand on the puck” rule (subtle name, that one).
As a side note, if a goaltender holds a puck for more than 3 seconds without being actively checked, he may be called for the same illegal holding penalty as a skater, except that the referee may also award a penalty shot instead of a penalty.
Practical examples: Logan Couture is streaking toward the net where a puck has just popped up into the air. He bats it down to his own stick and shoots. The resulting goal is good. If, however, the puck bounced to Ryane Clowe without Couture or a defender touching it, Couture would be called for a hand pass and play will be called dead.
Alternately, Couture may not catch and throw the puck into the net, but if it were to hit his hand and bounce in, that would be legal. If, in any zone, Couture held the puck in his hand, either to stop it’s motion or advance it, it is a “closing the hand on the puck” penalty and he’ll be assessed two minutes.
If Dan Boyle, while protecting his own net, knocks the puck down with his hand and it bounces to Douglas Murray, the play is legal. If Marty Turco caught the puck on the resulting dump in and held it for four seconds without any Shark nearby, he could either be assessed a minor penalty for delay of game or the Sharks could be awarded a penalty shot.
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Your Couture example needs more goals!
Remember that you’re never allowed to touch the puck with your stick if your stick is above the height of the crossbar of the goal. The “high stick” rule (I prefer “high touch”) is probably supposed to stop wild swinging and therefore sticks to the face, which would be a real “high stick”. That touch would have caused play to be killed and a faceoff in the nearest circle.
Thank you!!
So, basically, for non-goalies, any hand contact with the puck must be open glove at all times, and you can only bat the puck to another player if you are in your defensive zone. Is it legal for forwards to do this in their defensive zone, or do you have to be a defenseman?
by the_french_connection on Apr 7, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
In the defensive zone, it’s legal for anyone.
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Oh… and when a goalie basically covers the goalie w/ himself, that stops the play? Where do they know where to have the next face off once that occurs?
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There might be some strange exception, but if the goalie stops the play, the faceoff will be in the one of the dots nearest him.
The only exceptions I can think of are all penalty-related, which means the faceoff location is being decided by the penalty instead of the freezing of the puck.
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Thanks again for sure! Auth0r you know your hockey!!!!
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Nahhhh. I just know how to research it and turn what the rulebook says into real English. I’ve already learned a few things doing this, to be honest.
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Don't forget about closing your hand around the puck in the crease
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by Captain Velvet on Apr 11, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
to expand on this...
A defensive player may not cover the puck with his hand while in his own crease. A penalty for delay of game or penalty shot can be awarded for this offense.
Ok… what defines as “crease” ? There is so much to learn about hockey!!!
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The blue pain in front of the net is the crease.
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Pain?
you mean paint, right?
Ok, thats the area that surounds the goalie and the net, right?
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Good idea for a post
this is a good step towards welcoming newer hockey fans.
I certainly could have used something like this when I first started watching.
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Kudos to Auth0r
Simplifying the details of the rules so we can all understand is a great service to this community. Thank you!
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As far as I’m reading from Rule 19, it’s always 4v4 if they’re minors. Majors typically result in the 5v5.
The first part of the rule does read, however, that if someone is already serving a penalty then the offsetting penalties will not lower the number of skaters. So offsetting penalties lower it to 4v4 but not to 4v3 if it’s already 5v4.
This page is looking a lot more like gibberish to my eyes than they usually do, though, so I don’t doubt I could be misreading.
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It stays 5v5 when they’re coincidental penalties, and it goes 4v4 when the penalties are not coincidental.
5v5 Example: There’s a scrum behind the net after the play is dead, and Clowe and Getzlaf are throwing jabs at each other. They both get two for roughing, go to the box, but no power play is assessed and play remains 5v5. Also, the players have to wait for a whistle after the penalty has expired in order to leave the box (they don’t get to leave the box after two minutes)
4v4 Example: Getzlaf slashes Clowes leg, and Clowe doesn’t like this, so he turns to Getzlaf and throws him into the boards. Getzlaf would get two for slashing, and Clowe would get two for boarding or roughing. Once the penalty is expired after two minutes, they both come out of the box.
I'm old enough to know, but too young to care.
I did see a situation where there was a 4 on 3, and the shorthanded team drew another penalty. Since there are no 4 on 2 pks, it was made into a 5 on 3.
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This is not correct.
The minimum number of skaters on the ice (plus goalie) is three. So let’s say the Sharks are playing the Ducks. If the Sharks draw two penalties in a row, and don’t draw one of their own, then the Sharks play with 5 men on the ice, and the Ducks play with three. If during the power play, the Sharks commit a minor penalty, then it would become a 4 on 3 power play. If they committed another minor penalty during the 4 on 3, then it would become a 3 on 3 power play, until the time expired for each player in the box.
However, if during the Sharks 5 on 3 power play, the Ducks committed another minor penalty, the Ducks would send the offending player to the penalty box, and it would remain a 5 on 3 power play.
If the Sharks were on a 4 on 3 power play, and the Ducks committed another minor penalty, the Ducks would send the offending player to the penalty box, and it would remain a 5 on 3 power play.
I'm old enough to know, but too young to care.
close to what I said, or meant
If the Sharks were on a 4 on 3 power play, and the Ducks committed another minor penalty, the Ducks would send the offending player to the penalty box, and it wouldremainbecome a 5 on 3 power play.
I don’t remember which game, but that’s what I saw happen with my changes to your quote.
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This wouldn’t be possible for a few reasons. Let’s say the Sharks were on a 4 on 3 power play. The Sharks have Clowe in the box, and the Ducks have Getzlaf and Perry in the box. Clowe has 0:52 left on his penalty for a boarding on Getzlaf, Getzlaf has 2:52 for a slash on Clowe and being ugly and Perry has 1:52 left for being a douche. Cam Fowler comes along and decides that he doesn’t like Logan because Logan is going to win the Calder, so Fowler cross checks Logan. Now Fowler would go to the box for 2:00, and it remains a 4 on 3 power play. 0:52 later, Clowe gets out of the box because his penalty expired, and it becomes a 5 on 3 power play, until 1:00 later when Perry’s penalty expires, or the Sharks score.
If the Sharks got another player on the ice for Fowler’s penalty, and it became a 5 on 3, then when Clowe gets out of the box, it would become a 6 on 3, and you can’t have six skaters on the ice (unless you pull the goalie), which in this case, if you pulled the goalie, you’d have seven skaters on the ice after Clowe gets out of the box.
I'm old enough to know, but too young to care.
I still saw it happen this season.
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Does it have something to do with the time/order of the penalties?
What i mean is, with coincidental minors, going back to the example, The Newfie (Clowe) and Rogain Poster Boy (Getzlaf) are jabbing at each other, the penalties would be awarded simultaneously (Right?).
But in the example that results in 4v4, Getzlaf slashes Clowe, who then proceeds to board/rough Getzlaf. So it would be 2 PIM for Getzlaf and then 2 PIM for Clowe. So if the refs stopped the extracurriculars before Clowe boarded Getzlaf, Getzlaf would be the only one in the box.
Right?
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What i mean is, with coincidental minors, going back to the example, The Newfie (Clowe) and Rogain Poster Boy (Getzlaf) are jabbing at each other, the penalties would be awarded simultaneously (Right?).
Correct. If they’re jabbing at each other at the same time, and the ref calls them both for two for roughing, then they both go to the box, and stay there until the first whistle after the two minutes are up, but the play remains 5 on 5
But in the example that results in 4v4, Getzlaf slashes Clowe, who then proceeds to board/rough Getzlaf. So it would be 2 PIM for Getzlaf and then 2 PIM for Clowe.
Also correct
So if the refs stopped the extracurriculars before Clowe boarded Getzlaf, Getzlaf would be the only one in the box.
Correct. The only reason Clowe would also go to the box is if he committed another penalty after Getzlaf. If Clowe got slashed, and let it go, then the Sharks would go on a power play, and would have the man advantage (as long as there were no Sharks in the box already)
I'm old enough to know, but too young to care.
It stays 5v5 when they’re coincidental penalties, and it goes 4v4 when the penalties are not coincidental.
5v5 Example: There’s a scrum behind the net after the play is dead, and Clowe and Getzlaf are throwing jabs at each other. They both get two for roughing, go to the box, but no power play is assessed and play remains 5v5. Also, the players have to wait for a whistle after the penalty has expired in order to leave the box (they don’t get to leave the box after two minutes)
4v4 Example: Getzlaf slashes Clowes leg, and Clowe doesn’t like this, so he turns to Getzlaf and throws him into the boards. Getzlaf would get two for slashing, and Clowe would get two for boarding or roughing. Once the penalty is expired after two minutes, they both come out of the box.
I'm old enough to know, but too young to care.
It’s a little bit of a convoluted topic. In part because the draft lottery only actually effects one team directly. The draft order is set by number of points and playoff position. It starts with lowest first (Edmonton, this year) and runs through the 14 non-playoff teams that way.
The 16 playoff teams are organized as follows: Cup winner picks last, runner-up picks second-to-last, the Conference runners-up take the next two spots, the remaining division winners take the next three-six spots if applicable, and any remaining playoff teams organize by number of points just like the non-playoff teams.
The lottery occurs after the order is “set.” The 14 non-playoff teams are assigned a number of “winner” slots in inverse-proportion to their points (so weakest teams get most chances). The winner of the lottery moves up up to four slots. So from 5th to 1st or 11th to 7th would both be possible results. This is theoretically to prevent a weak team from tanking just to get the top pick, though obviously that could still happen, it’s just not a guarantee.
The Devils won the lotto this year, moving from 8th to 4th.
The current order reads (factoring in a couple trades) as:
1 Edmonton Oilers 62pts
2 Colorado Avalanche 68pts
3 Florida Panthers 72pts
4 New Jersey Devils 81pts (Technically 8th, won the lotto and moved up 4 spaces)
5 New York Islanders 73pts
6 Ottawa Senators 74pts
7 Atlanta Thrashers 80pts
8 Columbus Blue Jackets 81pts
9 Boston Bruins (from Toronto) Leafs had 85pts
10 Minnesota Wild 86pts
11 Colorado Avalanche (from St. Louis) Blues had 87pts
12 Carolina Hurricanes 91pts
13 Calgary Flames 94pts
14 Dallas Stars 95pts
As a side note, because of the Kovalchuk fiasco, the Devils must forfeit a pick at some point in the next three years. The league has not said, yet, if this will be the pick.
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Someone mentioned right after the draft that the team gets to choose which year they’ll give up the pick.
Also, I heard they had the next FOUR to choose from.
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You’re right on the next four. Missed the fact that it’s the ‘14 draft that’s the last possibility.
Hadn’t heard that the team gets to choose. That feels almost like negating the punishment. “Well, we’ll just wait until either the last year or a year when we go far into the playoffs. If we suck, we’ll just keep it.”
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What's the deal with sticks?
If you drop your stick can you just go get it? Can someone else give it to you? What about a goalie? Seems like there are rules governing loose sticks on the ice but I can’t really figure them out.
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"Hit more people."
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