Sharks Defensive Depth Poised to Turn Offensive Numbers Around
by Mr. Plank on Jul 15, 2011 1:05 PM PDT
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When Sharks Head Coach Todd McLellan took over the San Jose Sharks head coaching job in the summer of 2008 he brought with him a Red Wings system that promoted puck possession, shots on net, and blueline activation. It was an exciting change of pace from the defensive posture Ron Wilson employed during his tenure behind the bench, allowing the Sharks growing stable of offensive players to branch out and play a much more aggressive style in the offensive zone.
Perhaps the biggest change in philosophy came on the backend. In an interview with Mark Purdy in 2008, McLellan explained what was one of the most important things he would be bringing to the Sharks next season-- an influx of shots from his defenseman:
McLellan has the numbers to prove his point. In studying the statistical charts from 2007-08, one number popped out at him: shots taken by defensemen. Detroit, the best team in the league, had more than 800 shots from the blue line. Sharks defensemen took only 536 shots.
That production from the backend was one of the most instrumental portions of the Sharks vaunted offensive attack during San Jose's 2009 Presidents' Trophy campaign. The Sharks were at the top of the League in numerous statistical metrics, finishing 7th in goals per game, third on the power play, and third in shots per game.
And while it's hard to imagine the days when San Jose's blueliners were putting up a paltry 536 shots per season, production from the blueline has dipped in every year since McLellan's first campaign:
The reasons for this dip in production are numerous of course-- the departure of Christian Ehrhoff in 2009 took away some offensive firepower from the defensive group, a drop in the defensive group's shooting percentage in 2010-2011 cut into their goal production, and less total shots in the last two seasons also played a role. Furthermore, the Sharks forward group also saw a dip in shooting percentages-- San Jose finished 23rd in the League last season in this metric, depressing assist and goal totals despite the fact that they finished first in the League in shots per game.
Although these stats can be slightly concerning for a team whose top offensive stars (Boyle, Marleau, Thornton) are nearing the end of their prime, the Sharks blueline next season is one that boasts a wide array of offensive and defensive talent that should assuage any concerns about this trend continuing next season. The addition of Brent Burns, whose eight power play goals were more than what the entire Sharks blueline accounted for last season (7), gives the Sharks a legitimate offensive powerhouse to complement Dan Boyle. Opposing team's will struggle with containing San Jose's top two defensive pairings because of this, opening up holes in the offensive zone that Burns and Boyle can take advantage of.
But perhaps most importantly is the amount of depth the Sharks now have at the defensive position. With players like Douglas Murray, Jason Demers, and Marc-Edouard Vlasic providing solid minutes at extremely affordable contracts, the Sharks now have five defenseman on the roster who could easily play top four minutes next season. As the Canucks showed last year, a deep blueline filled with three dangerous pairings is one that is essential for a team's success-- provided Burns plays with Vlasic and Murray sticks with Boyle, Demers should have loads of opportunity to pick apart his lower quality of competition next year and produce offensively.
Furthermore, the offensive promise Justin Braun showed last season gives San Jose an ace in the hole if they wish to add even more point production from the backend. He'll battle with Jim Vandermeer during training camp for that final sixth spot, with his growth defensively being the biggest key to crack the opening night lineup.
It reminds me of the "issue" the Sharks had last season where seven top-six forwards bumped Pavelski down onto the third line where he flourished alongside Torrey Mitchell and Kyle Wellwood. That line was instrumental to the Sharks success during the first half of the 2011 postseason, putting opposing team's in a position where they had to pick their poison and hope for the best.
That's a good "issue" for any team to have, as the malleability of the defensive group should allow San Jose to withstand the eventual injuries that will crop up throughout the year.
A former weakness of the organization has now turned into a strength.
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I am officially excited for the unveiling of our new PP.
"You know what they say about people with big skates......big feet" - Randy Hahn
by DrewRemendaRogaine on Jul 15, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
First goal next year...
PP goal in the first 4 minutes of the game on a laser beam shot from Brent Burns that’s hit so hard, it causes the atmosphere to burn, and it ends up looking like foxtrax from back in the day…
How cool will that be? I’m calling it.
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jul 15, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lolfoxtrax
totally forgot about that ish.
This is wayyyyyy better than that stupid yellow first down line that does not benefit anyone in the least.
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by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Canadians and Hockey "Purists" tended to hate it a lot...
Mostly because they were under the conclusion that ‘white ice… black puck?’
I tend to disagree with this, because you absolutely cannot see the puck when it’s being battled for on the near boards… or in some cases, the far boards…
High Definition helps a lot, but I actually found the Foxtrax cool… and… if there was no Foxtrax… how much less amazing would this shot have been?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUEISh8DC8Q&playnext=1&list=PL47669428E8E5D0BD
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jul 15, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Just watch where the camera is pointing.
It actively tracks the puck with sensors and junk.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jul 15, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Sometimes during the game I can't even see the puck, so I look where the players are scrambling and fighting.
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The camera guys for the NHL are really good, fantastic even.
The puck is dead-center of the screen 95% of the time.
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I'll take that note the next time I watch hockey.
Just look in the center of the screen, that’s where the puck should be.
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What???
This is wayyyyyy better than that stupid yellow first down line that does not benefit anyone in the least.
It doesn’t really get in the way of play like foxtrax did and at least gives the viewers (and the commentators) a good idea if there’s a first down. It’s not gospel, but it’s not bad as an indicator.
"Bobby Orr was available, but we couldn’t fit him in under the cap." - Todd McLellan
"BEAT DAT BEAT!!!"
/facepalm
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by Brittjames11 on Jul 16, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
How exactly does it mess up football though?
It’s a static, unobtrusive line, and doesn’t really matter unless it’s a close play for a potential first down. You practically ignore it until the situation calls for it. I mean, does it make you personally feel better if you can accurately guess if it’s a first down or something? Who cares if there’s a yellow line?
Whereas with the Fox Trax, you COULDN’T ignore the puck. You had no choice but to watch it. It even changed colors. And if you didn’t like what you saw, unless you had access to an alternative broadcast, you were forced to watch the hi-liter puck show.
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My Bee. i forgot to turn the "facetious font" on again.
FoxTrax sucked-for the very reasons you stated above. That’s why they did away with it so quickly. I think it was something designed to rope in the average American/Joe that didn’t know much about hockey but were attracted to bright lights and shiny objects.
The first down line in football is one of the greatest inventions in TV viewing history. Right behind TiVo.
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
by Brittjames11 on Jul 17, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Got it
It’s amazing how much adding a silly emoticon can change cold text. I just couldn’t imagine why anyone would dislike the first down line.
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i just feel a bit emasculated when i type a “winkie-face” to anyone besides some girl that im tryin to woo.
I can imagine Alex Smith doesn’t like the first down line though…it’s 9 yards too far for him.
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by Brittjames11 on Jul 17, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm totally on board with that. It helps a lot.
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Its like reliving Nhl Hitz
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by DrewRemendaRogaine on Jul 15, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I am officially excited for the unveiling of our new PP.
That just sounds dirty…
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by DrewRemendaRogaine on Jul 15, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Soooooooo
you’re saying your post-op?
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so excited about Burns...
I see him as another Kyle McLaren… but with offensive capabilities too…
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Douglas Murray is our current compliment to Kyle McLaren...
Kyle was known mostly for his boneshattering hits than anything lol.
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jul 15, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
his hips could not lie...
/sighs nostalgically
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say losing Rob Blake
had more of an impact than losing Errorhof.
by BillytheSid on Jul 15, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"Ehrhoff shoots! It's wide."
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by Evil Stanchion on Jul 15, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rebounds are still good
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 15, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
it can’t rebound off the boards?
A la Canucks.
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
touché
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 15, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Trust Me.
After that series, I wish it couldn’t.
I’m sure J.R. isn’t complaining though.
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand how the NHL hasn’t looked into those physics-defying stanchions in Vancouver.
The image still haunts me
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 15, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Those and the Detroit boards that could line the floor of a Bounce-House
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if...
They ring around and start an odd man break the other way.
by IsThisTheYear? on Jul 15, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that was Mike Grier...
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When the Sharks lost Rob Blake
They didn’t just lose his production, but that’s when Vlasic’s production fell off, too. When Vlasic was paired with Blake, Vlasic had a guy he could trust defensively and was more apt to jump in the play. When Blake left, it seemed like Vlasic was stuck being the guy who always had to stay back on D.
With Burns on Vlasic’s line now, I’m guessing you’ll see a huge jump in Vlasic’s offensive numbers again.
Exactly the piece I’m working on for next week. Couldn’t agree more.
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Agreed
I would expect to see Vlasic pick up many more assists next year (mostly secondary assists) with the addition of Burns.
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 15, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love to see Vlasic get in on the play more...
I hear it said all the time that he’s so great on D, but really, I dont feel like he’s an offensive liability whatsoever…
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jul 15, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Sharks need to finish middle-of-the-pack in the postseason to win the cup.
Because I mean. Whenever the Sharks finish first, they get a little floppy. Worked for Boston.
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No the Sharks need to do jut their own way. Fir get trying to copy another team
by a408life on Jul 15, 2011 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
is that an app?
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by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
How is it working out fit you?
I’ve been looking all over fir something like that
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by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Its pretty cool I just misspell words someones when I rush it
by a408life on Jul 15, 2011 3:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
None of this was lost on Doug Wilson
Great points Mr. Plank. Did you and Doug discuss this over coffee before you posted?
Our defense is set and I for one see that as being a huge difference maker going into next year.
We do however still need another 3rd line guy (preferably a RW) to shore up the offense.
Although, I’m more than willing to see if the Worcester guys can get the job done (at least until the trade deadline). At that point if we need more offensive punch we could make a move for a veteran guy and dangle the likes of Nittymaki. Both Greiss & Stalock s/b ready at that point to back up Niemi.
Any way you slice it, I believe San Jose has a 3 year window and Doug Wilson is building this team to win right now! IMO, both Seto and Heatley were defensive liabilities and inconsistent performers in the playoffs when we really needed them both to step up (injuries not withstanding).
Great article, please keep ’em coming!
Not many teams are looking for a $2 mill backup goalie right now I think. His trade value is pretty low but we might be able to get something useful to us if we packaged him with something else.
If we can trade Nitty I’m 100% behind it though. I’m comfortable with Stalock and Greiss duking it out
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by waive kent huskins on Jul 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He's more than just a back up goalie
Remember DW brought him here to start and he played pretty well, although not as well as Niemi. $2 million isn’t a lot for a team that wants an experienced and reliable goalie. But he could be part of a package and we do still have over $6 million to work with to complete a trade if need be.
Call me crazy, but why not p/u Cam Janssen from St. Louis. He’s a RW and is as tough as nails. I think we’re going to need a guy like that to protect Couture and Pavs and Havlat. He may not score much, but he’ll come cheap and take on anybody. That way Clowe won’t have to spend his time fighting as much.
Janssen just signed with New Jersey.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 15, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Again with enforcers
We used to have two on the roster in Shelley and Staubitz. They kept Logan Couture off the roster.
Enforcers are nullified by saying “no.” And, unless you expect a player of Janssen’s caliber to be on Couture or Pavelski’s wing, it’s hard to “protect” a guy from the bench or the press box.
We need penalty killers. Very few “tough guys” kill penalties.
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by ElvisVF101 on Jul 15, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm fine with that
So long as others are willing to step in to defend their linemates or after the fact, take on the goon or punish the other teams top guy. I think the whole idea of having a Shelley around to deter cheap shots is a triffle overrated. But, I still think we need a guy like that on the bench. Perhaps McLaren will try to fill that role?
Well, that's one of the reasons I love Clowe
Yes, it sucks that we sometimes lose him for 5 minutes, but his physical presence can be a deterrent as well. He doesn’t HAVE to fight, and I feel like he’s gotten a lot better at picking his spots, and just being a beast the rest of the time.
McLaren and Mashinter should absolutely compete for roster spots this season in my view. They’ve shown flashes of good stuff with the big club, and I think their class of rookies (McLaren, Mashinter, Desjardins, Ferriero, McCarthy) are ready to make a serious case for sticking with the team out of camp. A 4th line of McLaren/Desjardins/Ferriero would be decent in my eyes. You’ve got size on the one wing in McLaren (or Mashinter), speed on the other in Ferriero, and a reliable 4th line center in Desjardins. With one of the M&M twins, you’ve got your enforcer, but also a power forward who can go to the net and open up the slot for the smaller, speedier Ferriero.
You need guys like that. We were spoiled having Nichol on the roster in this regard. Guy made tangible contributions, and could drop the gloves. Another reason I miss Manny too. Same kind of player. Didn’t need to fight, but could, and when he did, he’d drop guys.
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Changing signatures is for suckers.
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One thing about enforcers I never really understood
is why the fanbase falls in love with them so much? I’m in line with you in thinking that they’re mostly dead weight, barely get any minutes (thus potentially limiting a more contributory linemate), and usually fight only every so often, makes them unnecessary. On the other hand, if they can actually contribute elsewhere in the game, that’s another story.
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Enforcers willingly take punishment for the team
Fans always appreciate guys like that. They do a dirty job, and they do it for the team.
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Changing signatures is for suckers.
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Fans rally around guys that defend their team. Most times you see a fight coming from an enforcer, it is that guy reacting to something that happened on the ice against his team, be it a notciable hit or just to spark his team from some bad play.
Whatever the reason, the enforcer’s fight comes at a time to lift spirits, so the fans rally behind him. That is why they’re liked.
However the point is, enforcers rarely play well and are rarely on the ice to “protect” guys, they’re reactionary. If you don’t get in situations where such a spirit lift is needed, or if you have players like Clowe that can play AND stand up for themselves (don’t classify him as enforcer in any sense of the word, he’s just not willing to be cowed by things), then you can have real players on the 4th line instead of muggers on skates.
Because we're sure Niemi is a 60 game man
And Greiss can rebound from an atrocious season in Europe and Stalock still rehabbing a season ending injury?
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Niemi is likely to play that many games
And I don’t see Nitty moving unless he’s of value somewhere. Don’t we still need more offense? Or are you content with what we have?
I think we need work on the third and fourth line
But as much as I admire Niemi’s turnaround, I’m still not convinced he’s capable of handling the starting load for an entire season and then playing 20 playoff games.
Nitty is an affordable, dependable 1B option. He’s not a backup, because Niemi isn’t a starter yet in my eyes. He’s just being paid like one.
We have some cap space available, so trades don’t have to be even. We can absorb salary. No need to part with a resource we might need. Greiss will be needed as much in Worcester as he would potentially be in San Jose with Stalock needing time to rehab the severed tendon.
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Good point
About Worcester and Stalock rehabing. Greiss will also need the work down there to get his game back in shape and to get his confidence back.
About the 3rd line, I’d like to see us get Jason Chimera for size, speed and PK ability. He’s not a RW, but could still be very helpful on the 3rd line. I’m looking at what Karl Alzner signed for and it’s something like $1.6 million over the next 2 years. I thought he was worth more than that. Washington is stacked right now. I doubt they’d hardly miss Chimera and since they’re over the cap…
I'm on board with a guy like that
He’s got speed, he’s accountable in his own zone, good size, and plays the PK.
I’m of the opinion it’s hard to take liberties with our guys when we’re in the offensive zone. Guys who can help drive the play out of our zone and set up the O in their zone mean we don’t have to worry about the meatheads. No coach in their right mind is going to send a good over the boards for a defensive zone draw. It’ll pretty much result in a power play against, if not a goal.
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Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
*send a goon over the boards
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Washington won't be over the cap once they put Poti on LTIR
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by ZeroIndulgence on Jul 18, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
According to most of the people on this site, +/- is garbage
by Montyburnz!...1 on Jul 15, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It's still usefull
And Corsi has it’s own flaws. The team that shoots more will always have good Corsi numbers, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re driving the play. Teams playing catch up tend to have Corsi advantage because they’re shooting more while trying to tie it up. Scoring goals still matters. So +/- has relevance to me.
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In addition
he brought with him a Red Wings system that promoted puck possession, shots on net, and blueline activation.
That system also includes a large ass double-parked in front of the goalie’s face for the majority of the game. It was good to see Joe start using what Mama Jumbo gave him towards the end of the season.
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by Brittjames11 on Jul 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Exactly what the Sharks need
That system also includes a large ass double-parked in front of the goalie’s face for the majority of the game.
The capability is there, but the Sharks really need to get on this.
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Heatley did in his first season. Hence his large numbers. He didn’t the 2nd season hence his decline. As to WHY he stopped going there is a matter for debate, but doesn’t change the fact that it is an area we need someone heading towards (even if you’re not parking there) for each line.
I have a strong suspicion
That whatever lingering groin issue he had was a big part of it. You need a wheelbase of steel to be able to do what Holmstrom does. A less than 100% groin would seriously hinder anyone’s ability to be that guy.
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Does anyone else find it funny
That Christian Ehrhoff will make $10 million dollars next year. UFB!
by douchebags on Jul 15, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Not nearly as funny
As ’Nucks fans rushing to scapegoat him
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by ElvisVF101 on Jul 15, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Missing Dan Hamhuis
Is a more likely reason that they got beat. Pathetic to blame Ehrhoff. Obviously Buffalo isn’t blaming him.
The double standards among Canuck fans are laughable
They claim Ehrhoff is a soft post-season player. Dude played with a seperated shoulder in the finals while the Sedins were stinking it up in the defensive zone. And, according to them, his success is solely because he played in front of Nabokov, then Luongo.
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lol. theyre such twats sometimes...
now they will claim he’s doing well in Buffalo because of Miller or something, I bet.
My only complaint about him was his shot accuracy. other than that I was very happy with his skillset on this team before we dumped him out.
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Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jul 15, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Only complaint? I don’t know about that. I was always terrified when he was last man back. And the puck seemed to get past him quite a bit at the point. Also, I thought he was kind of creepy looking.
But those are my only complaints…
haha
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A bit of an understatement...at least when he was here
his defensive coverage was very weird sometimes, and he took quite a few bad penalties…it seems that got better while he was with Vancouver, however.
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Canuck fan double standards?
“No other team deserves the cup like our Canucks!”
Queue classless rioting.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jul 15, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are they lining up to riot?
That seems classy.
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I know it’s Waayyy ahead of things. Blame it on the summer blahs. With Burns on this team and his game given the opportunity to blossom, does anyone think he has the chops to be a Norris candidate?? With my eye, it would seem that his defense needs shoring up but he does bring everything to the plate.
Highly premature discussion
Liable to bring the wrath of the hockey gods upon us.
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A Vancouver fan gave me shit for actually buying into the "Hockey Gods" supersitition...
Then he got to see his team get unloaded upon in game 6 and 7 of the finals and I got to drink his stupid Canuck tears as he saw his City get torn to shreds…
To me, that was just the Hockey Gods saying in Darth Vader voice… “I find your lack of faith DISTURBING”
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jul 15, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
So does this mean Murrary will get another hatrick!?!?!?
Flem: "Tim are you enjoying the party?"
Timmy: "That would be a fair assumption."
Notice how the year Ehrhoff left
our shooting percentage increased .4%
hahahahahaha
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by tealstherealdeal92 on Jul 15, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions
i benn tellin errybody this. TRADE MARLO AND THORTUN!
WE NEED MOAR THIRD LINE HALP!
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jul 15, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Marlo 4 Cutterbluck?
Flem: "Tim are you enjoying the party?"
Timmy: "That would be a fair assumption."
Come on guys...quit being douches >_>
But I agree…
Chimera for Wrenn + a 7th?
Also, sign Madden for more veteran presence and if needed, Wellwood. Go Sharks Go!
Go Sharks!
Seriously, whoever we get on the third line needs to at least have some sort of offensive talent. Someone that will at least shoot the puck when the chance presents itself. Mitchell/Handzus is a combined 21 goals and 32 assists. If they want a more defensive 3rd line, great, but at least be able to bluff the ability to create offense.
Crashing the net is always helpful
You expect a checking line to score ugly goals. The team should score more ugly goals period.
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We should call-up Cheech.
And tell Ricci to lace ’em up.
And get Scott Thornton to get back here and stop… what is he up to? Retirement?
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Since Cheechoo Signed a 2-way deal with STL, that means he can play for 2 teams, right!?!?
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by Pavsisaninja on Jul 15, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Good lord
Scott Thornton was a #3 overall pick. Yeowch.
Looking at his junior numbers
It doesn’t really make sense why he was drafted so high. I’m sure his size + skill projection must have been awfully tempting for the Leafs to pass up.
But still, while his overall career numbers weren’t anything to go nuts over, his best years were definitely in San Jose: 342GP, 77G, 70A, 147PTS over 4.5 seasons playing primarily on the 3rd line. Working with Mike Ricci and Niklas Sundstrom, one of the best 3rd lines in hockey at the time. I’m not unhappy with that.
Plus it probably didn’t hurt to have some family on the team when DW managed to acquire another Thornton for the team…
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Looks at the calendar and realizes it's still July...
Can October come any faster?
Also, when Mark Purdy’s name was mentioned, is it bad I started laughing?
by Dermal Denticles on Jul 15, 2011 10:42 PM PDT reply actions
That's purdy funny.
Yeah, no, I killed it.
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When is training camp?
Are those ever open tot he public?
And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."
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*to the
And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."
GO SHARKS.
Developmental camp already started if the articles on the Sharks' site are to be trusted.
That’s just for guys from the AHL and amateur leagues so they can get observed by the staff without the distraction of the staff paying attention to the full-timers. I don’t believe those are open to the public.
Usually the Sharks announce dates for training camp in early-September for the camp starting in mid-September. They usually post a list that gives times and locations for groups a and b (and a separate list saying who is in what group). Those practices are usually open to the public and are at Sharks Ice unless specifically noted as being at HP.
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in minnesota for vacation
Got both burns and havlat player t’s for 70% off Haha. $15 in total. Would have got a seto one but they were all last season players.
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by Pavelskinator on Jul 16, 2011 8:59 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Last night I dreamed we traded Couture for Semin.. It was scary as fuuuuuck.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 16, 2011 10:57 AM PDT reply actions
DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT!
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It wasn't a joke dude.
Since when is a nightmare a freaking joke?!?!
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 16, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be a joke
of the most cruel variety. The hockey gods are fickle…
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Couture will be in the hockey hall of fame.
Semin will never best his current point totals.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jul 16, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
weird
my friend just told me he had a dream that we released couture to waivers…
i would need counseling after a dream like that
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by tealstherealdeal92 on Jul 16, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah man, it was some hard core shit. I think I still have PTSD from the WCF loss.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 16, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Would be nice, but......
If Doug plans on giving the Young Wor. players a shot on this team, and he doesn’t bring in some NHL vets to compete it could back fire. I don’t like the fact of having 4 to more AHLers on this roster at the start of the season. Until the young guys prove they belong on this roster, I’m going to be worried.
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by ChangoT on Jul 16, 2011 4:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
totally agree
I think there are some serious holes in our 3rd and 4th lines that need to be adressed. 1-2 players definitely need to be acquired, at least 1 for PK help. the good news is there are still a few options (although my top choices are gone, but oh well) and we have a significant amount of cap room to make a few moves/pickups
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by tealstherealdeal92 on Jul 16, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You keep saying that DW is gambling by playing too many AHL players.
And keep not backing it up with any facts.
There are only four “open” forward roster spots on this team. The top 6 is full of vets, the 3rd line already has two veterans. The 4th line is apparently currently penciled in as McGinn (in what will be his fourth NHL season, but still without a complete one), Benn Ferriero (going into a third season of NHL service, but also without a complete one), and Andrew Desjardins (who is the least tested but showed some promise in the playoffs and late season). That group was probably our most productive fourth line in the playoffs. That really leaves one forward roster spot to be filled. While I don’t expect that Guite or Andrew Murray will claim that spot, they are veterans who are being brought to camp to compete for those spots.
On the blueline, the only non-veteran is Braun. He did fairly well while Boyle was injured and had stretches where he played upwards of 15 minutes a night. He’s probably not ready to be an every night, big minute player, but he is already expected to be competing with Vandermeer for the last slot on the blueline.
Most of the local media coverage of the Sharks, as well as some of the national coverage, agrees that DW is not done adding players and that he’s looking for someone who plays hardnosed defense for the bottom lines. Ease up a bit on the worry. We’re not sending out new draftees or players with no experience, and we’re not leaving them unchallenged for roster spots.
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by Auth0r on Jul 16, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And this isn't directed at anyone in particular, but it's related...
For the last several season people have bitched about Wilson depleting the farm system and not playing enough of the young players to see if they have value. McGinn, Couture, McLaren, Doherty, Petrecki, and Joslin (not to mention all the goalies) have all been begged for by the fanbase. Now that DW is doing what people have been crying for over the last few years, a loudly vocal portion of the fanbase (very possibly the same portion as the previous complaints) is bashing him for using “young, unproven players.”
We have three years to decide if any of these players are going to be part of the new core that will have to step up to replace our veterans when their contracts are up. I seriously doubt that playing three less veteran players on the fourth line will dramatically decrease the Sharks’ odds of making the playoffs. They won’t replace Heatley this year, but no one is asking them to. Personally, I’d rather take a chance on someone like 22-year-old McGinn figuring things out than an older career 4th-liner who is unlikely to improve and probably lives on the fourth line because of stupid penalties, stone hands, and/or lead feet.
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Not to mention it’s an 82 game season and if someone is working out on the team, it won’t affect the season totals. The beginning of the season is where the testing happens, some people might have forgotten that.
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by SharksFanTillDeath on Jul 16, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok I agree and understand to a point, but the players need to be put in a position to succeed. If the players are natural passers or shooters, then how can they be expected to perform as checkers or grinders?
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by ChangoT on Jul 16, 2011 9:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Who says that the bottom lines have to be checkers or grinders?
Or that players who are shooters or passers also can’t hit? Or for that matter, why does the fourth need to be the checking line when Handzus’ 3rd line is expected to be defense-first and tough?
And beyond that, checking and defense is a role that Desjardins has historically taken (it’s why the Crazed Rats line was called what it was). McGinn did a good job in the role, in my mind, last year once he came back from Worcester. I would agree that a bottom six role isn’t a great fit for Ferriero, but he made it work for himself in the last playoffs, so I don’t see a problem with letting him try it to get him some playing time.
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The 4th line becomes a grinding/checking line when you bring in those “tough guy” veterans to fill it out, like last year’s Mayers/Eager/etc. Any veteran 4th line player is essentially that type of player because they don’t have the skill to elevate them to a higher line.
Thus overall it is better to have a younger fresher 4th line because those players have the potential to be higher line guys later in their career, and when paired with similar quality players on that line they can become a scoring line vs an enforcer line, and actually contribute some goals.
Ferriero never did will in last year’s 4th line because he would be with Mayers/Nichol, not exactly the most offensively talented linemates. However when that 4th line is seeing linemates like McGinn and Des, players who can use their youth and speed to push the puck up and have some offensive talent, they can resonate better and actually contribute.
The bottom lines aren’t automatically pegged to be enforcer/checking lines, it is just that they usually become that way because of the quality of the remaining available players doesn’t allow for those bottom lines to become something more (which is why our 3 line offensive depth was so remarked upon last season). This problem magnifies when you retain those 30+ year old guys that have become those 4th line grinding career players with no room for growth or improvement. When you have the bottom line as youth, you run the risk of defensive mistakes but you also have the chance for real offensive push from them too.
Doug's Gamble
I just don’t think, Braun, McGinn, Ferriero, Desardin, McLaren, Murray “UFA from CLB” or any other Rookie can make a difference on this Shark Roster.
And those are a few that have a chance to make the roster, but if they fuck up……what choices are left??
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by ChangoT on Jul 16, 2011 9:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
.
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by Evil Stanchion on Jul 16, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
what choices are left??
We have mad cap space left to make a move between now and the trade deadline. You’re worried about lack of choices for the team?
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No I’m worried, about what we have left to trade away. Not much, unless Doug really makes a big change
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by ChangoT on Jul 16, 2011 11:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Cap space is an asset
It means teams looking to dump salary will find our cap situation to be advantageous for them. We also have draft picks and prospects. And we can still sign people. Training camp hasn’t even started.
I’m a worrier myself, but being defeatist now is pretty premature, even for our fanbase.
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by Evilducks on Jul 17, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
haha, nice. rec’d
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by SharksFanTillDeath on Jul 17, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you’re underselling the Sharks’ ability to assess talent. Couture and Demers were rookies not so very long ago (and actually have less total game experience than McGinn and only slightly more than Ferriero). And while Couture was more highly touted than the others (though plenty of people were happy to label him a bust pretty quickly), Demers was about equally as heralded as the current crop of newcomers. The Sharks are one of the league leaders in developing late round picks into productive NHL players, I think that has earned DW and the rest of the staff some leeway to put less experienced players into low pressure situations and see how they respond.
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And while Couture was more highly touted than the others (though plenty of people were happy to label him a bust pretty quickly)
Did he win the Calder? Nope, he’s still a bust.
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by idunno723 on Jul 17, 2011 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sidney Crosby had way more points in his rookie year than all of Couture's NHL years put together.
Total bust.
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Wut?
(though plenty of people were happy to label him a bust pretty quickly)
They did this after he scored a goal in his first game?
Granted, he didn’t really start his pubescent transition into the Cooter we all know and love ‘til about December, but still…I’m not quite sure where he could have been considered bust-worthy.
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by Brittjames11 on Jul 17, 2011 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Most of the "bust" commentary
regarding Couture was very tongue-in-cheek, stemming from his inability to be an instant contributor at age 18-19 a.l.a. Jeff Skinner.
I feel “pubescent” and “cooter” shouldn’t ever be written in the same sentence on a hockey blog.
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by SharksFanTillDeath on Jul 17, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
teehee
but you saw what i did there
@Logan Couture: Heard Charlie Sheen had an interview I missed tonight, damn! He might be the only person in the world thats #winning more than us right now.
by Brittjames11 on Jul 17, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Lets hope for good things
But I’m still going to be worried
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by ChangoT on Jul 17, 2011 10:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Seriously?
I hadn’t heard.
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by CloweMyWord! on Jul 18, 2011 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Alexi Yashin to SJ E5
Yashin might want to make a NHL comeback. Let the rumors start……..
This is a joke, ok!
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