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Fear The Fin Fantasy Hockey Leagues Now Open

Fantasies are a funny thing. When I was a wee little lad, I would fantasize about playing professional hockey and leading my team to the Stanley Cup. Roofed shots, cross crease passes, backhanders that found twine. It was visceral and it was real, it was going to happen no matter what. Now I just fantasize about maybe eating a good meal on Friday night, getting away with going 71 in a 65, and having enough players on my fantasy team who do all the things I knew I was going to do when I grew up to be 23 years old.

I also play a lot of RPG's . As a level 30 soldier, I can assure you that the Reaper threat will be extinguished by next March and dragons will be slain this holiday season. I'm a jack of all trades really.

At any rate, this season FTF will have four fantasy hockey leagues available for everyone to join. With competition expected to be fierce, and snack cake munching expected to reach historic levels once the season gets underway, make sure to secure your spot soon. I finished a woeful 13th last season in "FTF Invitational" after finishing 3rd the year before, so if you're looking for some easy wins, make sure to join that one. If you're interested in competing against a member of the Russian Mafia, join "FTF Invitational 2" where Ivan will be ruling with an iron fist as commissioner. And if you're looking to show your appreciation for all the hard work our site moderators put in, make sure to join either "Our Stalock" or the "Deke Squad" league and spew out some family friendly trash talk to ZeroIndulgence and idunno723.

The choice is yours, but choose wisely-- in the interest of making sure everyone gets an opportunity to play this season, please sign up for just one league this season. We want everyone to get a chance to compete with members of the FTF community.

We will be using Yahoo! again this year. Go to this page and enter in the League ID and password you see below. It should be on the left hand side of your screen.

FTF Invitational
League ID: 42362
Password: hamburgers

FTF Invitational 2
League ID: 42736
Password: imisswallin

Our Stalock (an FTF Production)
League ID: 42743
Password: whoartingoal

FTF Deke Squad
League ID: 42716
Password: awkpatty

Have fun, and most importantly, draft Rob Blake, Brian Rafalski, and Mark Recchi in the first round, especially if you're in "FTF Invitational." All Cup winners, and magnificent players who should put up some big points this season.

[Editor's Note]: If all the spots are taken in either of these Leagues when you try to join, let us know in the comments. We will either open up another league or elect a community member to act as Commissioner.

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FYI

All the cool kids are in the Deke Squad league.

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
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by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Definitely the best name.

Flugenweb. Spacecode. Twitzone. Assmode.
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by jwizzle241 on Sep 19, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I to assume

that all the settings are the same for each league?

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If we all cared as much as Kent Huskins the world would be a better place.
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by PNK on Sep 19, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

As far as I know...

They are more or less the same. Roster positions and scoring categories should be exactly the same. Little things like divisions or not, roster move limits, etc. may vary slightly from league to league.

"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 19, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

just signed up for our stalock

I missed last season but ima try to win 2/3 years!

Flem: "Tim are you enjoying the party?"
Timmy: "That would be a fair assumption."

by BrandonMK50 on Sep 19, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

3rd Round Clowns are back to defend the title in FTF Invitational

be afraid children, be very afraid!

Oh, so that's where you edit your signature

by Teas on Sep 19, 2011 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

A couple years ago

I was in the FTF Invitational 2, but I missed the draft and hadn’t set my preferences so I had a really shitty team and I quickly lost interest and ended up coming in last.

I’m not sure whether or not I should redeem myself in that league or get a fresh start.

Mostly I’m looking for the league that was the most people I want to smack talk.

Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
"The only crying allowed in hockey is when you lose a playoff series, retire or JR is speaking publicly." - Jamie Baker
"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
If we all cared as much as Kent Huskins the world would be a better place.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn

by PNK on Sep 19, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

You probably shouldn't join my league, then...

Because you will lose horrifically, and it will be embarrassing, and you’ll lose interest pretty quick again. I’d hate to be responsible for the tears to be shed.

"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 19, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Challenged accepted.

Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
"The only crying allowed in hockey is when you lose a playoff series, retire or JR is speaking publicly." - Jamie Baker
"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
If we all cared as much as Kent Huskins the world would be a better place.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn

by PNK on Sep 19, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nevermind

your league is full.

I guess I waited too long to make up my mind.

I’m in Deke Squad now.

Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
"The only crying allowed in hockey is when you lose a playoff series, retire or JR is speaking publicly." - Jamie Baker
"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
If we all cared as much as Kent Huskins the world would be a better place.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn

by PNK on Sep 19, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I put this note for my league:
Trash talking here is encouraged, no matter how pathetic it really is.

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to suggest that there is no goalies. Seems whatever goalies I pick, something goes wrong with the. I had Hiller & Niitty in a league last season and we know that didn’t go so hot.

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

haha … I’m in three leagues this year, so any more requests?

GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might as well grab their backups, too.

Believing in the Sharks, one photoshop at a time. GO SHARKS!

by Auth0r on Sep 19, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roberto Luongo, Corey Crawford, and Peka Rinne.

Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES

by mymclife on Sep 20, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Our Stalock

Appears to be full now.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 19, 2011 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Deke Squad has 7 open spots right now.

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally rocking the Our Stalock.

And am totally already wasting time on making a team banner.

Believing in the Sharks, one photoshop at a time. GO SHARKS!

by Auth0r on Sep 19, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

hey i just tried to join deke squad and the was all filled up and now none of the leagues seem to be agreeing with the password and chance FTF can open another league

by sjfan1991 on Sep 19, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

They probably are. I know both Invitationals filled up early on and Our Stalock was full as of an hour ago, so Deke Squad is probably full up, too.

Believing in the Sharks, one photoshop at a time. GO SHARKS!

by Auth0r on Sep 19, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sucks…

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by Bockerz on Sep 19, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another league should be created

That would be pretty cool

Sharks. Giants. UCLA Bruins.

by Yumbo19 on Sep 19, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plank said he would. Just gotta give him some time, I think.

Believing in the Sharks, one photoshop at a time. GO SHARKS!

by Auth0r on Sep 19, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll make one right now.

Any volunteers want to be commish?

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

all you need to do is provide a draft time and approve of trades, right?

by sjfan1991 on Sep 19, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Here’s the new league everyone

FTF Zamboners
League ID: 44207
Password: huskins4ever

I already put the default FTF settings. Once you’re in I’ll hand over the commish powers.

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

wooo. done.

"If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin"

by serrapadre716 on Sep 19, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 things

first, the deke squad is full.

Second, is there any way you could make the invitational leagues publically viewable. I’d like to watch the happenings…

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

i tried joining all of them

they’re all full, or my laptop is crap

"If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin"

by serrapadre716 on Sep 19, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, they're all full

I meant “time to open a new one”

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Does it count as “invitational” if they’re open leagues? ;)

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoever is “Nabokov Sucks” in Deke Squad is sucks.

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you there.

GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arghh!

They’re all full!! That was FAST!

by SharksFan97 on Sep 19, 2011 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe you are slow. :)

GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look a few comments up

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll repost the same comment then...
FTF Zamboners
League ID: 44207
Password: huskins4ever

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe you should have posted it in your fancy fonts that you do

GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like this?

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damn it,


FTF Zamboners
League ID: 44207
Password: huskins4ever

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if I want to join but won’t be around for the draft? Will it auto draft for me?

by milanahalek on Sep 19, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet.

While I’m at a Coldplay concert, Yahoo will pick Luongo as my 2nd overall pick (again…)

This stinks.

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by sharkzfan on Sep 19, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Auto draft isn’t that big of deal for these leagues anyway. 20 team leagues, so the talent is a little thin.

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just joined

Team name: Warsaw WarDonkeys

by BillytheSid on Sep 19, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read the comments!

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO!

You didn’t read my comment saying I panicked and told lies, after al :P

by Nick! on Sep 19, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He actually ninja'd you

His post came one minute earlier. BAM!

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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"The only crying allowed in hockey is when you lose a playoff series, retire or JR is speaking publicly." - Jamie Baker
"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
If we all cared as much as Kent Huskins the world would be a better place.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn

by PNK on Sep 20, 2011 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nevermind.

I like to panic and tell lies. I got into Zamboners.

Team Asssssscat!!! is GO!

by Nick! on Sep 19, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It amazes me that people will wastet their time joining public free leagues.

Fantasy sports is a lot like poker. People need to play for something, even if it’s low-stakes, to play right. Otherwise, people don’t give a crap and it ruins the experience. Just my opinion.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 19, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

The incentive is winners leagues.

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even with "winners leagues"

to me, I have to spend 2-3 hours drafting, even more if I want to actually prepare for the draft, and countless hours during the season to manage my team, e.g., lineup changes, free agents, trades, etc. What’s worth doing well is worth doing for a little money, that’s what I say.

Given that, if anyone wants to join a real league, where managers play for real and are active throughout the whole season, I have a $25 buy-in league that still has a few openings. If anyone’s interested, let me know.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 19, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

You went through all that just to advertise?

In any case, you know why those “countless hours” aren’t wasted? Cause fantasy hockey’s fun. Simple as that. And something that’s fun and free isn’t necessarily as fun when it isn’t free.

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

They aren’t wasted cause you have bragging rights. Of course, I wouldn’t know anything about that since I always suck. One day tho. :)

GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bragging rights alone are a waste of my time.

But bragging rights + some money? Now we’re talking baby!

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 19, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

So basically you need to be gambling to have fun? i’ve heard that’s bad, but you do your thing.

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fantasy sports isn't gambling, just FYI.

That’s why it’s legal to play for cash. It’s actually deemed a game based on skill and knowledge, like poker.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 20, 2011 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

You realize poker is still gambling?

The legal distinction is between luck-based games and skill-based games, sure, but gambling is when you wager money on an uncertain event. As long as it isn’t certain you’ll win, that’s gambling.

Not that there’s anything wrong with playing for money, it’s just that if you can’t have fun without that, it’s a little sad.

by warning on Sep 20, 2011 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's people only do things only do things anyore if they get paid

and that’s just really sad.

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"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
If we all cared as much as Kent Huskins the world would be a better place.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn

by PNK on Sep 20, 2011 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree

Poker isn’t gambling according to the State of California. That’s why there are card clubs all over the place that legally hold poker games. Poker, along with fantasy sports, is a game based on skill and knowledge. This has been well defined by the courts, unless you’re saying you know more about it than the California Supreme Court.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're just wrong

http://www.library.ca.gov/crb/97/03/Chapt5.html is the first link in google.

It’s gambling, it’s just legal gambling.

by warning on Sep 21, 2011 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, a link to california’s division of gambling control website:
http://ag.ca.gov/gambling/
In case that first link didn’t look legit enough.

by warning on Sep 21, 2011 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a much better discussion on the "skill vs. chance" argument

http://www.gambling-law-us.com/Articles-Notes/online-poker-skill.htm

It contains material that both supports and contradicts the notion that poker is a game of skill vs. chance. Bottom line – poker is a game of BOTH skill and chance, much like fantasy sports. The argument centers around what percentage of skill vs chance the games inherently contain.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

And that second link, that PDF

is completely inapplicable to our situation. Just FYI. Sorry, nice effort though.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It really isn't inapplicable

All I was doing was showing that gambling is legal in california and that statements like this: “Poker isn’t gambling according to the State of California,” were false. Poker is legal gambling in California. Slots are illegal gambling.

by warning on Sep 21, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where does it say that "Poker is legal gambling"?

Cuz I only saw video poker mentioned.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

See, I guess you were also a bit unclear

cause I didn’t link to any pdfs. So the ‘pdf’ you mentioned… not quite sure what you’re talking to. The second link, I haven’t read at all – it’s just proof that some gambling is legalized in california. We all know that slots and luck-based gambling is illegal. Ipso facto, without needing any further evidence, we can conclude that some skill-based gambling is legal, eg: poker. And if you want further proof, check out california penal code section 337j
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/California/
Poker is under the purview of the Department of Gambling Control and it is legal, eg: it is poker.

Or, you could just look at a dictionary.

Seriously, fantasy hockey for money is obviously gambling by the legal and dictionary definitions. So yeah, apparently you need to be gambling to have fun with fantasy hockey.

by warning on Sep 21, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

So apparently, it whether participation in fantasy sports for money is considered gambling depends...

Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006, which was an amendment to the larger and unrelated SAFE Port Act, included “carve out” language that clarified the legality of fantasy sports. It was signed into law on October 13, 2006 by President George W. Bush. The act makes transactions from banks or similar institutions to online gambling sites illegal, with the notable exceptions of fantasy sports, online lotteries and horse/harness racing.

The bill specifically exempts fantasy sports games, educational games, or any online contest that “has an outcome that reflects the relative knowledge of the participants, or their skill at physical reaction or physical manipulation (but not chance), and, in the case of a fantasy or simulation sports game, has an outcome that is determined predominantly by accumulated statistical results of sporting events, including any non-participant’s individual performances in such sporting events…”36

However, all prizing must be determined in advance of the competition and can not be influenced by the fees or number of participants. Fantasy sports are considered gambling and therefore illegal if the competition does not meet this rule: “prizes and awards offered to winning participants are established and made known to the participants in advance of the game or contest and their value is not determined by the number of participants or the amount of any fees paid by those participants.” 37

Taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_sport#Unlawful_Internet_Gambling_Enforcement_Act_of_2006

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of off topic don't you think?

Everything we posted previously was discussing whether or not it was gambling, not whether or not it had skill.

I totally agree there’s a difference and California law does, as you say, differentiate, but it’s still gambling. That’s all I was saying – you apparently need to be gambling (the skill-based type, alright) to have fun with fantasy hockey).

by warning on Sep 21, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does that mean

that betting on horse racing isn’t gambling either? Because that’s legal too.

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"You are down with the homies, my friend." - Randy Hahn
If we all cared as much as Kent Huskins the world would be a better place.
"Don't fart on my chair mutha fuckah!" - Randy Hahn

by PNK on Sep 21, 2011 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok...

You don’t have to play in one of these leagues, nobody is making you. Just leave us 90+ people alone!

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying is

We got 99 players but jurisdoctor ain’t one?

/badjokes

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

(we did actually have 99 players at the moment I posted though)

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I’m aware I don’t have to play and I’m not. I just don’t understand why people do. For me, it’s not fun when half the managers quit managing after a month (even if that). Warning gave me a little bit of insight and that’s fine. Whatever floats your boat. Just because 99 people jump off the bridge doesn’t mean it’s smart or fun, just that 99 people chose to do it. I was never one to follow crowds anyhow cuz I like to pave my own path, for better or worse.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 19, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly
just that 99 people chose to do it.

Stop being a party pooper

Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!

by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I’m not stopping you from having your “fun”. Why should I? Go ahead, by all means, knock yourselves out…it’s not any skin off my back.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 19, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

Your whole first post was about how what we were doing shouldn’t be fun and couldn’t we see that it was boring.

And you just ninja’d me explaining why we shouldn’t be having fun. Seems like skin to me…

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said I didn't understand why it was fun...

I didn’t mean to imply that you shouldn’t do what you happen to find fun. I could care less what you find fun, whether it be cow tipping, pubic hair trimming or watching paint dry. Like I said, whatever happens to float your boat, irregardless of how of a waste of time it is or boring as it might be.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 20, 2011 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not what you're saying

It’s that you’re saying it. You care enough to make this point – over and over and over again – that you can’t understand why it’s fun. Cause you didn’t start a chain about cow tipping, you started one about how you personally don’t enjoy fantasy hockey without the gambling element and can’t understand how anyone else would find it fun.

And seriously, you would enjoy cow tipping and watching paint dry if there were money at stake? Cause… well just never go to Vegas, that’s all I’m saying.

by warning on Sep 20, 2011 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just reading all these posts make me laugh...

half the managers are going to be autodrafting. How fun. Sorry I won’t be there. NOT!

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by jurisdoctor on Sep 19, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would rec this comment a billion times if I could...

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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 19, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can just pretend

if you makes you happier.

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by jurisdoctor on Sep 20, 2011 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joining a fantasy hockey league is following the crowds. Wow who knew. And I thought I was the snob around here. :)

(yeah I realize I probably still am)

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by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

:(
;)
:)
=D!

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by Bockerz on Sep 21, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The incentive is...

I WON FTF2 LAST YEAR READ MY SIG AND SUCK IT!!!!

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by jwizzle241 on Sep 19, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sure that just make you feel so good about yourself, doesn't it?

Now who’s being pathetic? And people here are calling me a “fantasy hockey snob”. What a joke.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

You realize he’s not being a snob at all? I mean, partly cause he’s totally kidding. And partly because even if he wasn’t, that’s just not what “snob” means. I mean, like, the word has a definition.

But yeah, attack the guy who tried to just add some humor. That’s classy.

by warning on Sep 20, 2011 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

you guys are railing on him a bit. He doesn’t wanna play, he has a conflicting opinion, each side had their say, let it drop. No one’s right over a matter of opinion.

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by PNK on Sep 20, 2011 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sure dude

He’s not being a snob but putting below his name, “2010-2011 FTF 2 Fantasy Hockey CHAMPION”, like that really means anything anyway, since he probably played against a bunch of people that didn’t really take it seriously. So yeah, he’s not being a snob by putting that there, yeah, uh huh.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 20, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

What?

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being proud of that.

I won my fantasy league last year and I’m proud of winning it. It was very competitive, people took it seriously because they wanted to win and gloat over everyone else.

Just because people don’t put money on it, doesn’t mean it’s not competitive or fun or anything. Are you seriously telling me you’ve never played any kind of game before that was both fun and competitive, but didn’t have any money/gambling involved?

Because that’s bull.

Also, being proud and gloating isn’t the same thing as being a snob. At most it’s being a braggart and an ass (and I think that’s the point).

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by PNK on Sep 20, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough PNK

I played my share of competitive sports when I was younger and mobile, and those didn’t involve any money. Tens of thousands of amateur NCAA athletes play not for any money nor any hope of money or turning professional; they play for the love of the game, camaraderie with their teammates, pride, etc. I can understand that.

My point is, when you are in a league of say, 20 managers, when half play seriously and half don’t give a crap, or only check into their league once a week or less, it’s not a legitimate league (please note: in my opinion). It’s like playing poker for nothing…people will bet and bluff with nothing consistently, because there’s nothing to lose. (Ever play free poker on Yahoo or Facebook?) With games like these, for lack of a better explanation, there needs to be negative consequences for either inaction or incorrect action.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not the same thing as playing poker without betting.

I’d liken it more to playing a board game. There’s no negative consequences for making bad decisions in that either, but that doesn’t mean it’s not fun. People want to win. Especially when they’re playing against other people they interact with on a regular basis.

Besides, you’re making lots of assumptions about people dropping out. I was in a 14 manager league last year and only 1 person stopped playing and that was also a person who wasn’t part of the group, but had been added to make the league an even number. And while annoying, it added to the intrigue, because someone different played them each week.

And anyway, the whole point of this isn’t to be some grand epic adventure that we’ll be talking about when we’re 50, “Remember that time we played fantasy hockey with people from Fear the Fin?” It’s just a fun little distraction throughout the year, that won’t take up too much time, and will keep us interacting with one another.

It’s just for funzies.

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by PNK on Sep 21, 2011 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough PNK

And I’m glad that you along so many other FTFers find it fun. I think it’s great for hockey, fantasy sports and the community as a whole. From my standpoint, the more people get into it, the better the chance the more serious players will take a step up and play in a low-stakes league like the one I run. I actually had a manager that “graduated” from my league and joined a $500 buy-in league this season. Talk about confidence, but that’s a whole other story.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve thought about joining a “for money” league, as I consider myself a pretty good manager, but at the same time, I feel like if I were actually playing for money, it would make it LESS fun (for me at least).

I feel if I were actually playing for money, then I would get “too serious” and I would stress out over it and it would become more like a job than a hobby.

In fact, I’ve actually spent money on the league I run getting a trophy for the league and I plan on making a plaque that will be sent from winner to winner each year. So there is something material to play for in a sense, but it’s mostly on a basis of pride. That’s the kind of thing I think makes it fun.

But like you said, to each his own.

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by PNK on Sep 21, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have you never done anything just for fun with friends? Ever?

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by Angy on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

In fact I do Angy...

but I don’t consider anyone here my friend. It takes a bit more than conversing online to be friends if you asked me. You know…all that good stuff, like actually meeting in person, spending time together, etc; stuff that people still do today even in this great age of the internet.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not what snob means

For a longer explanation see: PNK or dictionary

by warning on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell you what jwizzle...

if you ever feel like challenging yourself a bit and playing against more serious competition, let me know. You’re more than welcome to join us. Seriously, there’s no hard feelings here. Come prove yourself against managers that actually put their money where their mouths are.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 20, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your bait tactic isn’t working. Good try, though.

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by ZombieSkittles on Sep 20, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gosh darnit, you caught me...

I was hoping it’d work. I guess you’re just too smart for me Zombie.

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by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I'm maxed out at 4 leagues. Don't have enough time for another one.

No hard feelings from me either, but just so you know, I was just making a joke.

I mean, yeah, I’m proud I won, but I know its not that big of a deal. Just trying (unsuccessfully) to lighten the conversation a bit.

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by jwizzle241 on Sep 20, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's great you won your league

and you should be proud. I didn’t mean to belittle your accomplishment, but I just have a little trouble getting over some people in here. I simply asked a question, put forth my opinion on the topic, granted it’s a opinion not shared by many and apparently isn’t too popular, but I thought merited discussion. Then guys are calling me a “fantasy hockey snob” and the like. Is this what happens to someone when they express unpopular opinions? They get shouted down and put down and told to be ignored?

I was serious in my invitation jwizzle. If you can afford plopping down $25 and playing in a serious competitive league where every manager is fighting tooth and nail each week and for every free agent, let me know.

Kudos to PNK. He seems like he’s in the minority that’s actually is willing to discuss topics in a rational and intelligent manner.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know warning, I had a thought that responding to you might be wasting my time, no pun intended,

but then I realized I do get some entertainment value from this, so yeah, I’ll play along with you.

If you want to call me a “snob”, fine. If you want to say I have an “undeserved victim complex”, fine. They are your opinions and you have your right to them, just as I do mine, e.g., people here are wasting their time, free leagues aren’t worth joining, etc etc. My reason for posting, believe it or not, was to find out why people join these leagues, and not to plug my league, which by the way, had little problem filling up. I just thought some people here might want an alternative to these free leagues, which you already know my OPINION on.

So call me what you want to, snob, victim or otherwise. In the grand scheme of things, I probably haven’t changed anyone’s mind here and you haven’t changed my mind on the matter, so let’s just call it, ok? And the same offer that I gave jwizzle, applies to you also. If you ever feel like playing in a more serious league, let me know. Who knows…dare I say maybe you might find it even more fun?

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do I do free leagues?

Because they’re…. free? Also, most people here are NOT as serious as you are. I, for one, wouldn’t put any money down on my team… because there are going to be weeks where I just forget to update my team.

In fact, most leagues will end up going through lulls like that. I have fun because I’m competing against other FTF readers. I honestly doubt I’ll win shit.. I like to pick my teams on an emotional level, not one that makes sense fantasy-wise.

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by Bockerz on Sep 21, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, I'm new to fantasy...

And I’m trying to find how player stats are weighted. Where do I go?

by SharksFan97 on Sep 19, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

They aren't

It’s a game of categories. Each week you face another team. For each category you win, you get one win in the standings. The margin of victory is irrelevant though.

Categories are much better than points because, well, it makes trading more complicated than “I’ll trade this 180 point guy for that 180 point guy”

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zamboners

My name is Cow Palace. YEAH

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by teal_and_orange on Sep 19, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

WOO!

Hat-Trick Marleau signed up and ready to defend my title (Nichol and Diming) in Deke Squad!

by The8Tank on Sep 19, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Zamboners

Marleau’s Marauders back for year 2

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by Captain Velvet on Sep 19, 2011 6:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I would but..

I’m kinda scared. I’ve never played a fantasy sport before and i have no idea how they work. I assume a graphing calculator and protractors are required, and i lost my graphing calculator a long time ago.

by Khaaz on Sep 19, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Google NHL.com head to head fantasy strategy...

And that’s how these leagues work. I was in your position just an hour ago, but decided to try play anyway. Then I got a tip in the thread above and did a little research, which took me to NHL.com. The format played here is fairly simple.

by SharksFan97 on Sep 19, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info.

It seems like all the leagues are full now anyways lols.

I’m still curious though what the UI looks like when you manage your team and what you need to do on a daily basis.

by Khaaz on Sep 19, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plank or another mod might open up another league. We’ll see.

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by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We filled the 5th one in like 20 minutes

i can’t imagine it would be difficult to fill another.

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Daily basis? Nada – I update mine weekly. Tho I do keep track of who gets injured during the week incase I need to make adjustments.

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by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Real simple.

The Fantasy Hockey week runs Monday through Sunday. You set your lineup every day (not as hard as it sounds, see below) and whatever stats a particular player produces for their real team that night count towards your Fantasy team. You play against a single opponent for the entire week, and on Sunday your totals are compared against one another. If you have more in a category, you win it and get 2 points for the week. If you tie, each gets 1 point, and if you have less you get 0. At the end of the season, the 8 teams with the most total points (individual win/loss record means nothing) go to the playoffs and do a mini-tournament.

It’s deceptively easy to manage your team. What I do is on Sunday night I’ll set my lines for the next seven days. I don’t normally add/drop players so this allows me to not panic when Setoguchi goes 3 months with only 10 goals and drop him before he gets 10 in a week. Moreover, except for the weekends, you rarely have “Should I start this guy or that guy” issues the way you do in Fantasy Football. During most of the week I can manage my lineup to have no one playing on the bench.

by Nick! on Sep 19, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was super helpful, thanks man.

If another league opens up i’ll probably hop in it.

by Khaaz on Sep 19, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the leagues are full

Including the Zamboners. Will any more leagues be created? I’d love to join a league this year.

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by Joe'sWoolyMammoth on Sep 19, 2011 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Ask and you shall receive...

New FTF League up and awaiting competitors.

FTF’s Glove of Doom
League ID: 44678
Password: semenov

Please only sign up for this league if you aren’t in one of the other 5. Lets’ give everyone a chance to get in on the fun!

Draft for this league is scheduled for Saturday at 7pm PST.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 19, 2011 7:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome!

Thanks for setting this up.

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by Joe'sWoolyMammoth on Sep 19, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess this shows the popularity of this site, now that I haven’t been around in like 16 months. I had to try five other leagues before this one finally worked.

FTF’s Glove of Doom is the best!

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by stufflife on Sep 19, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to play but am scared

Will I figure it out easily???? I’ll go research and maybe be brave enough to join.

And what’s the advice (Murray’s grandfather, Lars [Lasse] Bjorn) gives him?
"Hit more people."

GO SHARKS.

by MiniMiteMom on Sep 19, 2011 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

fantasy sports is easy,

Pick good players, hope they produce (goals, assists, penalties etc.)and if they dont kick their butts to the curb and get someone else. Its all about guessing who will be good, and when they’ll be good.

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by BrandonMK50 on Sep 19, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pick good players

I fail at that part.

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by Angy on Sep 19, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the Glove of Doom.

Team name: cake eaters.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Sep 19, 2011 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Got into Glove of Doom

Was lazy and just used my tag on here for my team name. Haven’t been in a fantasy league for a few years so this should be fun.

by AJ_SF4L on Sep 19, 2011 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

The Semenov Donors.

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by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

She was in my league last year.

I lost to her badly and she hadn’t updated her team in a couple months… Worse yet, half her roster was injured. I just did terribly that week.

Whatever. I WON THE LEAGUE, BITCHES! WOOOO!

by Nick! on Sep 19, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha nice. If i end up playing i’ll be BurnswhenIPP.

I’m probably not gonna be available at 7pm on Saturday though.

by Khaaz on Sep 19, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, I’m not around for the draft either…just gonna hope to get decent players with the auto draft.

by milanahalek on Sep 19, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

join quick

cause this one will fill up too.

by warning on Sep 19, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

How to win at big Fantasy Hockey leagues:

1) Update your lines. In a league with 20 people, probably only 10 are playing at any given time. The others forget their team almost immediately or as soon as they start to lose a few games, so their lines will be exactly the same every week. Just by staying active and making sure you have players who are actually playing that night, you’ll win more often than you expect.

2) Goalies. Not so much with the settings on the FTF leagues this year, though. By default there are 10 scoring categories, 6 offensive and 4 for goalies. You have 12-14 forwards/defensemen contributing to offensive categories, you only have 2-3 goalies. That means 2-3 guys are responsible for 40% of your points. Moreover, most leagues have a 3-game minimum starts per week, if your goalies don’t get 3 starts between them, you lose all the goalie categories for the week. So if you can get two #1 starters you’ll have a distinct advantage for the year since half your opponents are going to have one #1 and one backup; or worse two backups. This year for FTF, however, there are 9 offensive categories (but Shorties and GWGs aren’t really that reliable draft stats… So goalies are a little less important. Still, it’s probably better to have, say, Luongo and Vokoun than it is to have Schneider and Smith.

3) When picking Forwards, sort by Points and grab the highest guy available. They’ve got to get those points somehow, so that means Goals and Assists in your stats; and getting one will give you either a +/- or a PPP, so that gives you stats, too. Overall points is the One Stat To Rule Them All for forwards.

4) Ignore defensive defensemen. Would I take Pickles if I owned a real team? Hell yeah! But Fantasy Hockey is about points, and defensive guys don’t get them usually.

5) For goalies I like to look at Save % and GAA first and ignore Wins and Shutouts. Vokoun and Bryzgalov are the reason for this. Both of them faced a ton of shots, stopped the majority of them, and then still lost because their teams weren’t very good (Phoenix was, but they were kind of like the Giants in that they’d lose a lot of 2-1 or 1-0 games).

6) Finally, keep in mind trades and free agent signings before grabbing a guy. Nabokov is expected to play this year, that’s great. He’s expected to play on the Islanders, that’s bad. On the other hand, Vokoun played really, really well for the Panthers and now he’s on the Caps. Sure, the Caps aren’t an amazing defensive team or anything, but they’re miles ahead of Florida…

by Nick! on Sep 19, 2011 9:25 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Nabokov is expected to play this year, that’s great. He’s expected to play on the Islanders, that’s bad. PICK HIM FIRST!

FIFY

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by Bockerz on Sep 21, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am showing all the leagues being filled

:(
why me?

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by JakeBot on Sep 19, 2011 9:39 PM PDT reply actions  

NVM, Glove of Doom had room

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by JakeBot on Sep 19, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really interested in joining in on the fantasy fun

I’ve been reading FTF for a couple of years now, 3 I think, decided to bite and finally make an account.

Would it still be worth it to join one of the leagues if I can’t make the draft on saturday?

by OverTheLine on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course!

And don’t be shy to comment.

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by idunno723 on Sep 19, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, why not?

You can just let the computer auto draft your team for you like half the other “managers” here are going to do. After all, you have nothing to lose…I say go for it.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 20, 2011 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

PS

ignore this guy. He’s super serious about his fantasy hockey. And our non-monied game destroys the sanctity of his game. Or something. I’m really not sure.

by warning on Sep 20, 2011 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I'd like to claim ownership of the game warning,

I can’t. It’s not “my” game, it’s hockey. (But yes, free public leagues soil the sanctity of fantasy sports.) Hah. Maybe there’s one exception I can think of, if you’re in a free league with nothing but all your college buddies or teammates. Then bragging rights alone could be worth the time.

"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."

by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was making an allusion to the arguments against gay marriage. Seemed to fit the structure of the sentence better. shrug. If you like, imagine that that said “the” instead of “his”.

by warning on Sep 21, 2011 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s why people want to do it here. We’re not exactly college buddies, but we’re a community of sorts and bragging rights will shamelessly be lorded over one another.

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by PNK on Sep 21, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah! How dare some “managers” have something to do on Saturday night. Fantasy hockey drafts > other fun things.

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by Bockerz on Sep 21, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

7 spots left for da glove

I wish Theo Fluery still played

by montereybay on Sep 19, 2011 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

awesome…thanks a lot! Sounds like a lot of fun!

by Dannyboi on Sep 19, 2011 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

OK I'm in

I always choke at these things, but what the hell.

I would rather be happy than right any day.

by SouthBayernMunchen on Sep 20, 2011 1:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh noes!

Leagues are full. I feel like Tiny Tim outside in the cold as everyone is having fun inside.

by aMinorThreat on Sep 20, 2011 2:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm secretly hoping

we can get 8 leagues filled, and then the winner from each league will play in a Playoff Fantasy Hockey league (Yahoo doesn’t offer one) to be crowned FTF Champion of the World.

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by PNK on Sep 20, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t there be repeat players?

by warning on Sep 20, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too early in the morning for you huh? :)

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by Angy on Sep 20, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah… freaking grad school making me get up super early again.

by warning on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a website that does it:

http://www.fantasypostseason.com/playoff-fantasy-hockey

I’ve never done a postseason fantasy league, so this would be REALLY cool.

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by PNK on Sep 20, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

All leagues are full!

I work all day long. By the time I saw this, all leagues were full, even ones posted in the comments! Is it possible to make more leagues? I am willing to make some if someone can tell me which scoring settings to use. I would also very much like to join some Fear The Fin official ones.

by 2weeksuntil30 on Sep 20, 2011 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I have an ESPN league set up...

And I have some open spots. If you’re interested, you can email me through the board here and I’ll send you an invite. And hopefully I won’t draw the ire of jurisdoctor by admitting up front that this is a free league…

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by DumbPuck on Sep 20, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL...

no ire DumbPuck. Good luck with your league. How is ESPN compared to Yahoo anyway? I’ve never tried ESPN.

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by jurisdoctor on Sep 21, 2011 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yahoo is a portal

not a news agency.

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by Soloact on Sep 21, 2011 3:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glove of Doom is full!

Gonna need someone to start a fresh one.

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by The McMafia on Sep 20, 2011 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

An 8th league

Would be greatly appreciated! Was really looking forward to playing this season and now all leagues are full :(

by EliBomber on Sep 21, 2011 5:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

As I said earlier

an 8th league would mean we could do a tournament of champions during the NHL playoffs in a postseason fantasy league.

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by PNK on Sep 21, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just in case your still looking:

FTF’s Cup Check League
ID# 48338
Pass: 1020

by will_hunter23 on Sep 21, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

TWSS

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by Bockerz on Sep 21, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

8th?

If there is an 8th, i’d be down to join!

by center23 on Sep 21, 2011 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Just in case your still looking:

FTF’s Cup Check League
ID# 48338
Pass: 1020

by will_hunter23 on Sep 21, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think someone made a similar request

but could the commissioners of each league make them publicly viewable so we can see what’s going on in them?

Also, BoC does a cool weekly report on their fantasy league, and while that might get a bit difficult with 7 or 8 leagues, maybe if each league had a FanPost thread (or just one communal thread) where they could post weekly updates about standings and whatnot.

Just a thought.

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by PNK on Sep 21, 2011 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I was thinking of posting updates for the 2 leagues I'm running...

Just for fun, and for smack-talking to carry over to FTF itself. Could be worthwhile, we’ll see. I’ll look into making my leagues publicly viewable too…good call.

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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty much what i was thinking.

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by PNK on Sep 21, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there any other leagues

I tried to join, but obviously I was a bit late. (Work is totally getting in the way of my personal life) *Would any one else be intersted in joining a new league?

by will_hunter23 on Sep 21, 2011 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

For Any One Who was Late:

FTF’s Cup Check League
ID# 48338
Pass: 1020

I hope it’s okay to post this. No disrespect intended.
Draft is Sch for Sun, Oct. 2 @ 3:15pm (*Subject to change in accordance with owners sch) Thanks,

by will_hunter23 on Sep 21, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

How disrespectful!

Just kidding, thanks for setting this up. Here’s a screenshot of the FTF “default” scoring and settings if you want to keep everything the same.

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by idunno723 on Sep 21, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHA!

Right on! Thanks for posting that!

by will_hunter23 on Sep 21, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joined.

Team name is UjustgotCrankshafted

by legionofBoom on Sep 21, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locked in

as “Trollin with DW”

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by The McMafia on Sep 21, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks all:

It looks like the “FTF’s Cup Check league” is full. I am going to change the Draft date. It will prob be sometime during the last week of Sept. (Please check the message board for any updates). Also, I have to make some changes to the scoring settings. The league will mirror whatever the original FTF teams are doing. Thanks

by will_hunter23 on Sep 22, 2011 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Damn I missed out again this year

But don’t start another league for me as I already am in 4 leagues in yahoo. Good luck all

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by adragon on Sep 22, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Noooooo....

I have 1st pick. Now I have to actually think about whether or not Crosby’s going to be injured for long, if Ovechkin’s going to continue slumping, and everything-all else. Yurgh. 1st world problems.

by Nick! on Sep 24, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Screw it.

Lundqvist, 1st overall pick of Zamboners. Book it.

by Nick! on Sep 24, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

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