Sharks Gameday: Reflection Before A Chance For Redemption
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San Jose has had a four day layoff since last facing Vancouver, but the Canucks have been busy wrapping up a Californian road trip since. Following a 5-2 win over Anaheim on Thursday and a 4-1 loss to Los Angeles on Saturday, the Canucks head home for a rematch against a Sharks team they have handled mightily over their last eleven meetings.
San Jose is 2-7-1 against the Canucks in that time frame in case you needed a reminder.
18 out of the next 28 Sharks games will be on the road, something that we covered in December as the Sharks began their six game homestand that just concluded. The Sharks were successful in that span, going 4-1-1 and accumulating 9 out of 12 standings points. That is exactly the type of performance they needed heading into the New Year and one that should make these next two months somewhat easier as they continue their quest to lock down the Pacific Division title.
Heading into the New Year there still remains some questions as to what direction this team seems to be headed. As Derek pointed out in his scoring chance roundup, the Sharks are an elite team in generating scoring chances for and restricting scoring chances against. Furthermore, the Sharks consistently find themselves amongst the Western Conference elite in three team-wide metrics that do a good job of indicating sustained success over the course of a season. Both of these are positive signs going forward and tell many of us what we already know—the Sharks are a Stanley Cup contending squad that has been built to go deep in the playoffs.
From a qualitative standpoint I like what San Jose has received out of their bottom six forwards this season. It has been awhile since the Sharks have been able to state that their depth guys are contributing, but this year has flipped the narrative and placed them as a legitimate answer to opposing team’s forwards.
The third line has seen a breakout offensive season from Jamie McGinn (8 goals, 5 assists) who has meshed well with rugged defensive forward Michal Handzus (3 goals, 11 assists) in the offensive zone and given San Jose some consistent physical presence as well. This duo will be one of the keys for San Jose going forward from a depth standpoint, as they give the team a nice blend of scoring and defensive play to go along with whatever third line forward (Torrey Mitchell currently) that gets placed on their wing.
The fourth line has also been excellent despite receiving bottom-feeder minutes, as Andrew Murray, Brad Winchester, and Andrew Desjardins have managed to find ways to stay physical, stay out of the penalty box, and work teams down low on the cycle. I’ve really enjoyed watching this line thus far this season and see them as a fourth line Sharks Head Coach Todd McLellan will be able to trust down the stretch.
Where the Sharks have come up a little short is in the top six forward category. This is by no means a criticism of their talent level (San Jose has one of the best top six forward groups in the NHL), nor is it necessarily indicative of their results (San Jose has gotten acceptable production out of these players). However, with moderately disappointing seasons from Ryane Clowe and Martin Havlat thus far, the amount of high-end production takes a dip once you get past the likes of Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Joe Pavelski, and Logan Couture.
Furthermore, expecting a point per game pace from the top line may seem a little needy, but the difference between needy and a team need tends to become blurred once you get into tough games down the stretch.
Perhaps it is a little aloof to expect Thornton (30 points), Marleau (27 points), Pavelski (27 points), and Couture (27 points) to produce more than they already have, especially when all four are at or around the pace they set for themselves during 2010-2011, but I think it is fair to consider last season one that fell below expectations performance from the Sharks offensive core outside of Couture. Getting more production out of the Sharks top six is something that should be on the team’s to do list in the New Year, and an achievement that would put the team on solid footing heading into the postseason. Hockey is a team game, sure, but there hasn't been many games this season where you sat back and said, "Wow, the top six absolutely took over that game and consistently punished their opposition." San Jose needs more of that this year.
On the defensive end of the ice there is Marc-Edouard Vlasic and then there is everyone else. Vlasic has been absolutely dynamite this season and continues to showcase why he is one of the best defensive defenseman in the Western Conference, but the rest of the blueline hasn't followed suit with the same consistency.
At the top you have Dan Boyle, who played the first twenty or so games of the year with a broken foot that visibly effected his game. Boyle has shaken those cobwebs off as of late, and turned in a very good performance against Vancouver last week, so the hope here is that he's gotten over the hump and will continue to be the Sharks most important blueliner. Brent Burns is an interesting case in many ways-- he's been excellent at driving the play in the right direction and amassing some truly stellar CORSI numbers, but the boxscore production hasn't been were many of us expected it to be this year. Whether it's beginning to get the breaks or changing his approach, the Sharks need Burns to have a little more game-changer in him compared to a guy who seems to be most dangerous with the team down a goal with ten minutes left in the third period.
Jason Demers had a brutal start to the year that saw him get benched in favor of Justin Braun for the most of November, but his recent play has vaulted him back into McLellan's good graces. He's on the upswing and seems to be on the right track towards recapturing the magic he showed last year, a positive sign for a player we expect to be a big part of the team in the future. Alongside Jason Demers has been Colin White, another player who came up well short of expectations at the start of the year but has managed to right the ship-- White is currently injured with no firm timetable set for his return, so his starting role could be in jeopardy if Justin Braun or James Vandermeer can jump into the spot. Both Braun and Vandermeer have had fine seasons-- Braun's underlying metrics are solid even if his results haven't quite followed suit while Vandermeer has been acceptable in his limited minutes-- so there's not much more you can expect out of them.
In net you'll get no complaints from me-- Niemi is always prone to the softie, but his play has been legendary at best and acceptable at worst. He's the go-to guy in net and has done a fine job in fulfilling that role. Thomas Greiss lit the world on fire at the start of the season but hasn't had much opportunity as of late, while Antero Niittymaki wrapped up a solid stint in Worcester after being injured for the majority of the season. We expect one of these two goaltenders to be moved at some point in the season, with Niemi remaining the number one goaltender.
All in all you can say the Sharks have had a good season thus far, even if inconsistency has reared its ugly head for the second straight year. It really comes down to San Jose getting all-world play from their top players (Thornton, Marleau, Havlat, Boyle, and Burns in particular) in order for them to enter the postseason as "The Team To Beat" instead of "One of Three Teams To Beat."
As we've learned over the last two seasons, that label isn't especially important-- two straight Western Conference Finals appearances came after regular seasons both good and mediocre. But with Los Angeles beginning to find their legs (4-0-2 since Sutter took over), and teams such as Vancouver, Detroit, Chicago, and St. Louis looking as dangerous as ever, locking up a top two seed will make that ultimate goal all the much easier to obtain.
It starts tonight against a team that has had their number over the last two seasons.
Prediction: Sharks win 4-3. Goals by McGinn, Burns, Marleau, and Clowe, as The Stanchion silently watches, bidding his time for another day.
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GO SHARKS
Start off 2012 by shutting up Nucks Misconduct and the Sedins.
"He's like a swedish bear"- Randy Hahn, during the Sharks-Canucks brawl on 4.8.2010
Go Sharks!
And you think you live in a non-traditional hockey market...
"I flew 5,000 miles for this?"
And if you want more of this kind of thing, I'm spouting nonsense on Twitter too...
by BritShark on Jan 2, 2012 3:32 AM PST via Android app reply actions
Sharks are unbeaten on NBC Sports Network!
by calixtus on Jan 2, 2012 7:20 AM PST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
great write up
always appreciate that the leaders here still can keep their heads on straight and be optimistic about the team even though most of the fan base starts flooding the liquor stores after every loss.
Also everyone take a second and look at couture. His 2nd full season in the NHL and look how impressive he has been, one of the top point producers, and how calm and mature he already seems to be. Hope we can keep him around long term
by slotownsharksfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 AM PST reply actions
I'm really starting to dislike the Handzus signing.
He’s big and wins faceoffs. Other than that he sucks. He’s facing weak competition and yet is up to his ears in negative CORSI. Meanwhile Kyle Wellwood is having an awesome year for 1.75 mil less than Handzus. Can someone justify the Handzus signing to me, because it just seems like a terrible use of resources.
It's not like he was all that great last year either.
I think Doug Wilson is one of the better GM’s in the game but this move is puzzling.
See: Jamie McGinn. Handzus, while obviously not in his prime anymore, does a whole lot of good on and off the ice than just winning faceoffs.
So if we kept Kyle Wellwood for league minimum like he wanted,
You don’t think McGinn would be having the year he is?
I mean obviously it's impossible to know,
But I just feel that retaining Wellwood would have been a much better allocation of cap space. That’s all.
tough to say
I mean I don’t follow the jets at all but I did have Kyle Wellwood on one of my fantasy teams(very deep league). From what I recall is he was getting some PP time and at times top 6 playing time, so I think his statistics would not nearly be as good had he been a shark. Also most of his points came during a hot streak he had early on in the season, hes gotten like 3 points in the last like 15-20 games so I guess it really depends on which part of his season you want to look at as his norm.
No, I don’t. Handzus is as much a teacher on the ice as he is a player, Wellwood doesn’t bring any of that.
While he’s having a great season playing for the Jets (in what I think is an easier conference to play in) he would’ve been playing with McGinn and Mitchell here and I don’t think he’d be much, if any, better than Handzus in regards to stats.
Or,
Maybe we keep Wellwood for league minimum and then use that Handzus money on Joel Ward…..
In my dreams I guess.
Ya, especially since Ward signed a 4 year / $12mil deal…he’s not worth that contract, in my opinion.
I disagree
He has done everything and more for the Caps this season. He matches up against the toughest competition in the league, starts in his own zone most of the time, and yet pushes the play in the right direction. He has combined with Laich and Chimera to make a true shutdown line.
I just don’t think a guy putting up 25pts a year is worth $3mil a year…I’d take Chimera in a heartbeat though.
I think Zeus is playing a pretty similar off-ice role to Nichol in past seasons.
He’s expected to set a tone for the bottom six, help hone the edge of our faceoff guys during practice, teach the kids as much as he can, and chip in wherever else he can.
Quietly, his points-per-60 pace is up almost a half point over last season (1.54 per 60 right now). His own on-ice CORSI is pretty similar to last season’s (though still lower) while the team’s CORSI with him off is far superior (shocking, I know, that the Sharks have a better shooting rate than the Kings), making his relative CORSI look much worse. Not great, but not an anchor.
Believing in the Sharks, one photoshop at a time. GO SHARKS!
Way too much pomp and circumstance going on before the Winter Classic
Play the fucking game already…
Yeah, I wasn't even gonna watch because of all the hype
but couldn’t resist. GO FLYERS!!!
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I really, really dislike them, especially that coach Tortellini
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah he's a dick.
But I’m really envious of the young talent they have accrued. Dubinsky, Hagelin, Ansiminov, Del Zotto, McDonagh, and Stepan are all 25 years or younger.
yeah I like some of those kids, Stepan, Dubinsky, I like Lunquist too. But man, that coach, he’s such a jackass
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
yeah I’m totally down with the Laviolette-kind of asshole…, but the arrogance of Torty, that kind of asshole… I just want to sock him in the teeth!!! He IS a good coach, though, I mean that guy can win shit.
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
this is actually an impressive winter classic, usually they havent been as quick as this one is starting out to be
by slotownsharksfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:51 PM PST reply actions
yeah I agree, this might already the best one so far
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
too bad the Sharks are so inconsistent this year… :(
we just haven’t really found our rhythm… I don’t know… hopefully we can finally win one this season against the Nucks tonight
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Nice goal
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"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
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woooo! philly up 2-0
love that Giroux goal
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Bummer
Oh well.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
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Holy Schnikes, Mike Rupp!
If only the Sharks had such a dominating player of their own. Well, maybe a $3 MM a year FA contract this summer, eh??
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
Yeah I was just hoping he wouldn’t net a hattie after that 2nd one! Couldn’t believe it
by JenLovesHockey on Jan 2, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Was it just me
or did it seem like the refs wanted the Flyers to win that game?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I thought so too, at least when it came to the penalty shot. They did decide pretty quick to award a penalty shot for a very questionable puck in the hand in the crease. Then again, maybe they saw something the cameras didn’t, and I didn’t see any Rangers adamantly protesting it.
"I've seen enough movies to know that popping the back of a raft makes it go faster!" - Troy Barnes, Community
Free Demers!
Yep
I thought the same thing. Lots of questionable calls. Glad the Rangers won though! Hope the Sharks do the same tonight!
by HeatersLeadingLady on Jan 2, 2012 4:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I didn't realize Staal was playing in that game.
Seems like he kind of rushed back, it was only last week he started practicing again right?
Start the New Year on the right path.
Its time for the REAL SHARKS to show up!
Go Big or Go Home
by ChangoT on Jan 2, 2012 3:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
firstrow is offline, too
Checking for other possibilities….
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"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
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Try
this place around the time the game starts.
or this place.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
Shameless plug for my music.
Thankfully I only get screwed over for the Sharks’ four NHL Network games—the network isn’t even offered by my cable provider (Charter). Go figure.
Being able to actually watch a game on TV here (instead of the computer) is basically reason to celebrate…except that it comes without Randy and Drew.
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
I'm confused
I thought the “new NBC Sports Network” was the replacement for Comcast sports net California. It’s not on my NBC
by calixtus on Jan 2, 2012 5:23 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Gamethread?
"Rosebud ... Yes, Rosebud Frozen Peas. Full of country goodness and green pea-ness... wait, that's terrible, I quit! Just a handful for the road."
Maurice LaMarche as Orson Welles in The Critic
Guess this is it for now
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
Shameless plug for my music.
MCGONN
So says NBC in their line graphics.
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
earlier
Emmerick (sp?) called the Winter Classic sponsor, “Bridgeport”.
He’s the same one who said “San Diego Sharks” and “Coach Doug McClelland”
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
Shameless plug for my music.
No, that was Brian Engblom
Emrick actually writes the League’;s guide for pronouncing players’ names.
Fear The Fin Mod Squad's Mike Rathje
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Okay
but it was still NBC.
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
Shameless plug for my music.
I can actually watch this one on TV
It’s a New Years miracle.
"Rosebud ... Yes, Rosebud Frozen Peas. Full of country goodness and green pea-ness... wait, that's terrible, I quit! Just a handful for the road."
Maurice LaMarche as Orson Welles in The Critic
And to keep up with tradition, Third Coast checks in for the first time in 2012
The mood: New year. New mood. New Sharks?
The beer: North Coast Old Rasputin.
"Rosebud ... Yes, Rosebud Frozen Peas. Full of country goodness and green pea-ness... wait, that's terrible, I quit! Just a handful for the road."
Maurice LaMarche as Orson Welles in The Critic
Special occasion to get to see the Sharks on TV instead of GCL, so I’ve busted out a very special beer: Dogfish Head’s Pearl Jam 20 commemorative bomber. Belgian golden ale brewed with black currents. Mmmm.
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
Nice. I shared a bottle of Oak Aged Yeti from Great Divide for NYE with the girlfriend.
Awesome thing was that the bottle was already a year old. A worker at the store I frequent saw me in and offered it to me. Hands down Top 5 beer.
"Rosebud ... Yes, Rosebud Frozen Peas. Full of country goodness and green pea-ness... wait, that's terrible, I quit! Just a handful for the road."
Maurice LaMarche as Orson Welles in The Critic
Oh, I've thought about trying that for a while now
The good review makes it more tempting. Finding one aged a year like that? Ooooh, yeah.
Winter. Time to eat fat and watch hockey. -- Margaret Atwood
I'll put up a game thread
Even though I won’t be watching the game because my friend decided to have his birthday today.
Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!
You need better friends
Or just friends period
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
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He's probably going on a raid with his best friend, xXDragon_Bane_12Xx
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw
by Evil Stanchion on Jan 2, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Up already…
http://www.fearthefin.com/2012/1/2/2678050/gameday-thread-sharks-canucks
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by Matthew_Taylor on Jan 2, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Grrr I wanted to post the Eager pic!
Leslie Knope: "...but it has a lot of heart."
April Ludgate: "That's what people always say when something sucks."
Fear The Fin's Fifth-String Moderator !!
Anyone got a stream?
FRS is broke, and atdhenet is being dumb.
The artist formerly know as *"Sharks_Fan_In_Toronto"*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw
look above, under "Try"
If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
Shameless plug for my music.
A little to late
close….one second earlier!
by CanadianSharkFan on Jan 2, 2012 7:36 PM PST reply actions

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