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Sharks dominated in 4-3 loss to Vancouver

Just one of those nights. Well, afternoons.

The inevitability of Cody Hodgson's game-winning goal with four minutes remaining in the third period, as flukey as the actual goal was in deflecting off Michal Handzus' stick and past Antti Niemi, was palpable almost from the opening faceoff in this one. The Canucks dictated the flow of the game throughout, rarely relinquishing puck possession en route to outchancing the Sharks 19-10 and winning 4-3 to take the regular season series three games to one, with San Jose's only victory coming in a shootout (Full scoring chance summary after the jump).

If there's a positive to be taken from this game for the Sharks, apart from the pseudo-positive that they would have probably fared better with Ryane Clowe and Martin Havlat in the lineup, it was their performance on special teams. The Sharks held Vancouver to zero scoring chances and just three shots on four power play opportunities in addition to scoring a shorthanded goal and converting their lone man advantage of the afternoon.

But back to the doom and gloom. SnarkSD had a terrific post earlier in the week detailing the Sharks' struggles against the upper echelon of the Western Conference and today's effort was more of the same against a Vancouver team showcasing why they've won more games from October through June than any other team in the NHL since 2008. In four games between the clubs this season, 55.5% of all even-strength scoring chances and 52.5% of all Corsi events have been in Vancouver's favor. The road to the Stanley Cup this spring will presumably go through either Vancouver or Chicago and, as it stands, those routes look to be littered with potholes for the Sharks.

The Canucks struck early with the recently-rehabilitated David Booth deflecting an Alex Edler point shot past Niemi ten seconds after Vancouver gained the blue line courtesy a neutral zone turnover by Joe Thornton. Brad Winchester had a pair of point-blank chances to answer just a minute later but hit the post on his first attempt and missed the net on the second. Three of the Sharks' seven even-strength scoring chances in this game were by Winchester and while he's been a pleasant surprise all season long, a fourth-liner driving the bus isn't exactly what the Sharks are looking for with so many highly paid players on the roster.

Vancouver had a slew of opportunities throughout the period including a sequence wherein a sharp angle backhander by Chris Higgins generated chances in tight for Booth and Ryan Kesler but both were unable to convert. With Jamie McGinn in the box serving a bench minor late in the first, Vancouver looked to increase their lead with the help of their dominant power play but instead watched as Andrew Desjardins sprung Logan Couture for a shorthanded breakway that resulted in one of the most memorable goals of Couture's already impressive career.

Star-divide

Couture would score again just a minute into the second period as the Sharks carried over the bulk of a power play drawn late in the first. Taking a return feed from Thornton, Couture snuck a backhand shot past an unready Roberto Luongo to give the Sharks their only lead of the night but it was short-lived. Just three minutes later, after losing a defensive zone faceoff to Cody Hodgson, Michal Handzus failed to cover the Canucks rookie who promptly slid the rebound of a Mason Raymond shot past Niemi.

The hatred between the two rival clubs would manifest later in the middle frame, initiated when Jamie "Orca Hunter" McGinn brutally checked Canucks defenseman Dan Hamhuis into the San Jose bench. Winchester mauled Alex Burrows behind the Vancouver net minutes later. But the third feat of strength came from an unexpected participant on the San Jose end as Joe Pavelski dropped the gloves with Keith Ballard for only his second ever NHL fight and first since he went toe-to-toe with then-Duck Ryan Whitney during the playoff series that must not be named. It was also significant that Ballard was a combatant as he was the dance partner for another noted Sharks non-pugilist in Patrick Marleau back when Ballard was a member of the Coyotes in 2006.

Vancouver once again had plenty of chances to regain the lead in the third period, the most notable coming when Couture heroically dove in front of a Henrik Sedin shot that would have undoubtedly found twine if it weren't for the block with Niemi out of position. The Canucks would eventually win the "race to three" as an ill-advised Dan Boyle pinch lead to a 2-on-1 that Ryan Kesler cashed in. Boyle redeemed himself thirty seconds later, scoring on the rebound of his own shot as he showed no hesitation to once again take a chance offensively. Unfortunately, it was all for naught as Hodgson's second marker of the game hung the Sharks with an L in a game they decidedly deserved to lose.

Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 3 7 2 7 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
2 2 6 1 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 5 6 5 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 10 19 8 19 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0

Team Period Time Note SJS Opponent
VAN 1 18:54 Goal - Booth 3 8 19 31 69 88 1 7 8 17 20 23 5v5
SJS 1 17:53 Winchester 10 22 28 31 43 44 1 8 23 27 32 40 5v5
SJS 1 17:50 Winchester 10 22 28 31 43 44 1 8 23 27 32 40 5v5
VAN 1 13:28 Booth 19 31 44 61 69 78 1 4 7 17 20 29 5v5
VAN 1 13:27 Kesler 19 31 44 61 69 78 1 4 7 17 20 29 5v5
VAN 1 11:31 Raymond 3 17 26 31 64 88 1 4 9 21 29 36 5v5
VAN 1 9:13 H. Sedin 5 17 26 31 61 64 1 4 14 27 29 33 5v5
VAN 1 6:07 Hansen 8 12 22 31 39 44 1 4 9 21 29 36 5v5
VAN 1 5:34 Hodgson 3 17 26 31 64 88 1 4 9 21 29 36 5v5
SJS 1 4:06 Goal - Couture SH 3 31 39 69 88 1 2 3 7 9 20 4v5
SJS 2 18:55 Goal - Couture PP 8 12 19 22 31 39 1 21 23 27 29 5v4
VAN 2 15:31 Goal - Hodgson 10 22 26 31 43 44 1 4 9 21 29 36 5v5
VAN 2 14:49 Higgins 3 17 26 31 64 88 1 7 8 17 20 23 5v5
SJS 2 12:05 Mitchell 17 22 26 31 44 64 1 2 3 21 36 40 5v5
VAN 2 9:32 Kesler 3 10 28 31 43 88 1 3 7 17 20 23 5v5
VAN 2 8:37 D. Sedin 8 19 22 31 44 69 1 8 14 22 23 40 5v5
VAN 2 5:15 Edler 5 8 19 31 61 69 1 8 14 22 23 33 5v5
VAN 2 2:51 Lapierre 3 17 26 31 64 88 1 2 3 27 32 40 5v5
VAN 3 17:19 Bieksa 12 22 31 39 44 78 3 14 17 22 23 33 5v5
VAN 3 14:56 Booth 12 17 22 31 44 78 1 2 3 7 9 20 5v5
VAN 3 14:52 Higgins 12 17 22 31 44 78 1 2 3 7 9 20 5v5
SJS 3 13:07 Winchester 3 10 12 31 39 88 1 2 3 7 17 20 5v5
VAN 3 10:42 H. Sedin 5 10 12 31 39 88 1 2 8 14 27 33 5v5
SJS 3 9:10 Pavelski 8 19 22 31 44 69 1 2 4 9 21 36 5v5
SJS 3 5:57 Handzus 17 22 26 31 44 64 1 2 3 7 17 20 5v5
VAN 3 5:49 Goal - Kesler 17 22 26 31 44 64 1 7 8 17 20 23 5v5
SJS 3 5:14 Boyle 3 8 19 22 31 69 1 8 14 20 23 33 5v5
SJS 3 5:13 Goal - Boyle 3 8 19 22 31 69 1 8 14 20 23 33 5v5
VAN 3 2:47 Burrows 3 12 31 39 78 88 1 2 3 14 22 33 5v5

# Player EV PP SH
3 D. MURRAY 15:39 3 7 0:00 0 0 3:11 1 0
5 C. WHITE 12:57 0 3 0:00 0 0 0:40 0 0
8 J. PAVELSKI 19:01 3 4 1:29 1 0 2:22 0 0
10 B. WINCHESTER 10:29 3 3 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
12 P. MARLEAU 15:02 1 6 1:29 1 0 4:04 0 0
17 T. MITCHELL 12:23 2 8 0:00 0 0 1:10 0 0
19 J. THORNTON 16:11 3 5 1:29 1 0 2:26 0 0
22 D. BOYLE 20:08 7 7 1:29 1 0 4:09 0 0
26 M. HANDZUS 14:35 2 7 0:00 0 0 1:47 0 0
28 A. MURRAY 5:36 2 1 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
31 A. NIEMI 49:35 8 19 1:29 1 0 8:00 1 0
39 L. COUTURE 16:18 1 4 1:05 1 0 2:25 1 0
43 J. MCCARTHY 9:21 2 2 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
44 M. VLASIC 20:06 5 9 0:00 0 0 4:09 0 0
61 J. BRAUN 14:40 0 4 0:00 0 0 0:40 0 0
64 J. MCGINN 11:19 2 6 0:00 0 0 0:00 0 0
69 A. DESJARDINS 11:28 3 5 0:00 0 0 1:43 1 0
78 B. FERRIERO 11:25 0 6 0:00 0 0 0:03 0 0
88 B. BURNS 16:53 1 8 0:24 0 0 3:11 1 0


Head-to-head scoring chances:

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Surprisingly, the Sharks' top line (now featuring 100% more Desjardins!) didn't fare all that poorly against the twins, who were hardly noticeable in this game save for the aforementioned chance by Henrik. It was the Kesler line that really did a number on them, as well as Benn Ferriero who had a really poor game both by eye and based on the chances.

More stats from the game: Corsi/Fenwick, Shift Charts, H2H Ice Time, Zonestarts, Play-By-Play, Box Score

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I feel like at least once per game the past few, I’ve heard Randy or Drew saying how a crappy defensive play by Ferriero led to a goal.
Also, Hodgson tore Handzus apart.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 5:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

No Surprise

Vancouver is healthy and the Sharks are banged up. The Sharks were lucky to score 3 goals, or should I say Couture scored 2 goals on his own. Doug has to move into action right now, because these AHL’ers on this team can’t cut it, in the NHL.

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Jan 21, 2012 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

Ferriero

Once again, he was pretty good for the first 5 games or so and then he falls off a cliff. It really sucks that the Sharks don’t have any offensive depth or player in Worcester to help ‘cus I’ve pretty much had enough of him playing in the top 6.

On the other hand – Couture is a f’ing all star!!

by milanahalek on Jan 21, 2012 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t worry about it, the Sharks have a bunch of draft pick positions available next year, right?…. Right?…. why isn’t Doug Wilson saying yes?

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying he needs to make a trade right now, it sucks that they lost and that the line up is depleted but, there aren’t a whole lotta teams that can continue to play well w/o 2 of their top 6 forwards and Clowe will be back after the all star break, that’ll help.

I was just having a mini rant about Ferriero.

The Sharks have all the assets they need to pick up whatever player/s they want. I have no doubt Wilson will make a move before the trade deadline.

by milanahalek on Jan 21, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I don’t think they need a trade. When Clowe and Havlat are back, I have no doubt that this team is going to turn into a major shit-tearer, it’s just that I’m worried about us not having any draft picks because in 5 years at most, our team is going to lose at least 4 guys, and I certainly don’t want to have to rely on Ferriero when that happens, unless he really ups his game in the next few years.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

If I’m remembering right, they have their 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th – they own Minn. 2nd and the #55 pick which is a compensatory pick from .

And there are at least 3 forwards right now in the pipline that are WAY better than Ferriero with a couple more that still could pan out – there’s really no need at all to be worrying about what’ll happen in the 2014/15 season.

by milanahalek on Jan 21, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

They have their first round pick?? I thought they traded that with Heatley or Seto over the offseason.
Who are the other three forwards? I’m interested in researching these fine young future-Sharks.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

They traded their 2011 1st w/ Seto and Coyle.

Michael Sgarbossa, Freddie Hamilton and Matt Nieto are the best (sort of only) forward prospects.

by milanahalek on Jan 21, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to go back in time and kidnap Malkin when he was a baby.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Where

Greg Kihn was a musician, and not a DJ?

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by Soloact on Jan 22, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya

This could go on for a while…

by milanahalek on Jan 21, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Saw Sgarbossa play a bit in the young stars tourney in the offseason, and saw Matt Nieto play in one of NBC’s college hockey games. Don’t remember being blown away by both of them, but they were both pretty crappy games, so who knows?

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick reports on Sgarbossa, Neito and Freddie Hamilton

Sgarbossa is leading his OHL team in goals and points overall, despite not playing every game. His point per game pace is slightly up from last season, too, but not by very much. He’s tied for 9th in the league right now.

Matt Nieto has 23pts in 20 games, putting him third on Boston University’s team, and his pace is waaaaay up from last year.

Freddie Hamilton is tied for 2nd place on his OHL team with 50 pts, tied with his brother. They also share the 19th spot in the league for points.

We may have traded Coyle away, but these guys are showing growth, putting up points for their teams and Sgarbossa and Hamilton are among the leading scorers for the OHL. I haven’t seem ’em play, but these things are promising.

by bezzerkker on Jan 21, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to pretend that the title implies that the Sharks were the ones dominating.

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by idunno723 on Jan 21, 2012 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

Am I the only who doesn’t think the Sharks were really “dominated,” minus the first ten minutes?

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Ottawa was a slap to the face.
This was a punch to the spleen.

I never want to lose to vancouver EVER again. > : ( Digivolve to Ultimate and beat everyone please.

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by YeahTommyB4ZGermansGetThere on Jan 21, 2012 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

Boo. I’m in CA in about 10 day’s time. They better get themselves together…

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by BritShark on Jan 21, 2012 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

We're 3-8-2 against the Canucks

from last season, postseason, and this season. Darn. These guys have our numbers….

Proud to be a brony.

by yoshifan on Jan 21, 2012 6:00 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly...

I don’t really think so. You look at the first game of the season, Murray doesn’t stand in the slot like an idiot, game goes to overtime (assuming, of course, the rest of the game goes the same. Very unlikely, but for the purpose of argument…). Look at this game, Handzus plays defense decently, we win. That would’ve made for a 2-1-1 or a 1-1-2 record, which honestly isn’t that bad. Also, injuries abound on the team, so they actually did well in spite of that. Well… Couture did well in spite of that.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Was anyone else reminded of Ryan Callahan watching Couture play tonight? Just the way that he really led the team on both sides of the ice, scoring two goals, blocking a bunch of shots (at least two empty netters) and finishing checks? Kinda like a captain should…. or an alternate captain at the least….

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

Yes.

Couture and Pavs should the C and A instead of Thornton and Clowe/Marleau, respectively. LOL just kidding (kind of O_o)

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Jan 21, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree on the Couture side, buuuut, I’d like to see a bit more from Pavs before I’d make him an AC. Maybe make him C in the playoffs, since that’s where he does his best shite.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha true that!

I was mostly joking though :)

Go Sharks!

by Dmitriy on Jan 21, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Best 4th line in hockey

Three of the Sharks’ seven even-strength scoring chances in this game were by Winchester and while he’s been a pleasant surprise all season long, a fourth-liner driving the bus isn’t exactly what the Sharks are looking for with so many highly paid players on the roster.

FTW!!

by SnarkSD on Jan 21, 2012 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

Our 4th line kinda is the best in the league…

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

They're awesome when Andrew Murray is in the lineup.

Not so much when he isn’t. Whether or not that’s a coincidence I don’t really know. They did come out looking pretty good in The Copper & Blue’s recent analysis of fourth lines around the league: http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/12/30/2669871/useless-energy-line-fourth-4th-line

by The Neutral on Jan 21, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I never get it when TMac scratches A. Murray. It’s like, “bro! Without him, the fourth line is only awesome, not knock-the-paint-off-your-post-because-Winchester-just-scored-off-of-it awesome!”

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Question about Clowe & Havlat

Ok, just thought of this. I know Clowe got hit pretty hard along the glass, and was reported that he had facial fracture. How do we know Clowe doesn’t have a cuncussion problem also?
Havlat I’m worried that he will be nowhere close to being 100% once he can skate again.

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Jan 21, 2012 7:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Clowe, I doubt it, seems like they would’ve announced it, like they did with Desi, and Havlat came back from an offseason surgery with an 8-game assist streak, so I’m not too worried about him. Just hope he brings back the goal stick he was just warming up when he left.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Niittymaki won his 2nd start

Good job, raise up ur trade value!

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Jan 21, 2012 7:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Sharks not winning Cup as presently constituted...

Let me start off by saying that I know we’re two players down. But in my opinion, even with Clowe and Havlat back, we are not good enough to win the Cup. The road to the Cup in the Western Conference very likely will run through Vancouver (or a hot team that’s plays even better hockey than Vancouver at that time) and the bottom line is that we are not as good as Vancouver and stand an incredibly remote chance of beating them (or a comparable club) in the playoffs. This is not a commentary on how we can get to that point (because quite honestly I have no idea how we become that good), but I think it’s abundantly clear that this Sharks team is staring the very same playoff fate that we have suffered from for years now. And, unfortunately, our top tandem is getting older (Marleau/Thornton) and we have no depth in our farm system to either replace those guys or to use as trade assets. Hate to sound like a pessimist, instead my goal here is to be a realist, and the reality I see is that this team is in store for a gradual decline over the next few years (or perhaps a blowup if ownership decides it’s time). Love, your faithful Sharks fan since 1994.

by SharksFan97 on Jan 21, 2012 7:56 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t mean to be a jerk, but I completely disagree. All of the games between the Sharks and the Canucks/Blackhawks have been decided by one goal. They’re not getting blown out of the water by anyone (minus that Sens game), so I still think their chances are fairly decent.

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

The results against Chicago and Vancouver have not been terrible, certainly, but in order to get those results (especially against Chicago), the Sharks have gotten sort of lucky—Niemi standing on his head, the opposing goaltender letting in some softies, that sort of stuff.

The big issue between the Sharks and those two teams is speed. Is there an easy way to solve that problem, save for completely re-making the team? No—but I think the Sharks can play better (obviously with full health) 5v5, and I think the best solution is to get the special teams working well enough that they can be the difference (in a positive way, unlike how it’s been for much of this season).

The PP can, I think, get clicking again with some tweaking. The PK has been better, and with the infusion of another useful cog in the machine, they could be quite good. The special teams advantage kept the Sharks in the game today, despite being undermanned and outplayed, so who’s to say it can’t help them win a playoff series against Vancouver or Chicago if the whole team gets playing better in general?

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by Timorous Me on Jan 21, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think

Vanc is a very fast team compared to most other teams. They are just good at passing back and forth quickly and accurately, and picking good shots to take. If the Sharks could do this then the Sharks would blow every other team away, including Vanc.

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by Soloact on Jan 21, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I do think they’re faster than the Sharks, player for player, but I think you’re right in that it’s more of a thing of the Canucks “playing fast”—much of what the Sharks do is very deliberate. I don’t think there’s a stat to show it, but I’m sure the Sharks are—for one example—quite low, at least among top teams, in terms of odd-man breakouts.

Sometimes I really miss Setoguchi—he certainly has his flaws and isn’t exactly shining in Minnesota, but I loved his ability to just sometimes blindly flash toward the net and put pucks on goal.

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by Timorous Me on Jan 22, 2012 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

both

Gooch and Heater scored tonight for MN. Heater was one of the 3 stars.

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by Soloact on Jan 22, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Good for my fantasy team, bad for my dreams—now I’m going to go to bed thinking of Seto scoring overtime winners in the playoffs and driving Red Wing fans nuts.

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by Timorous Me on Jan 22, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Chicago & Vancouver have taken control of all the games against the Sharks. The Sharks may have had mini spurts in those games, but most of the time the Sharks are chasing and always a foot behind. So far the Sharks have been lucky to get atleast a win against both of them, but very true Van & Chi did get lucky in their wins also. If the Sharks can’t play at the level of Chicago or Vancouver then this will be another disapointment.

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by ChangoT on Jan 21, 2012 11:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree, are they better than Chicago and Vancouver right now ? probably not. But I disagree with the notion that they have been dominated in all their games. We were better than the Hawks in game 1, and better than them for 2 periods of game 2 until we got totally dominated in the 3rd period and pretty much all of game 3. Against the Canucks I don’t see when we were ever DOMINATED aside from period 1 of today’s game. At the end of the day though we are not getting the W’s so that is a bit concerning, but at the same time come playoff time neither time will look the same anyways lol.

by RZ39 on Jan 21, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Just a funny observation, but some of these replies sound like an alcoholic in denial...

The Sharks weren’t ever dominated, except of course…(or)
Vancouver isn’t faster than the Sharks, except of course…(or)
The Sharks aren’t getting blown out of the water by anyone, except of course by the Sens.
Now the alcoholic:
I never drink before noon, except of course today (or),
I never get drunk, except of course…

Are Sharks fans in DENIAL that they’re team just isn’t as good as they used to be and aren’t as good as the elite teams in the league? Hmmm…

by SharksFan97 on Jan 23, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I realize it all too well. 4 in consecutive games and in 3 of his last 5. Not the best. Then again, in that 5 game span he has a shutout, so who knows with that guy?

by JBarrow on Jan 21, 2012 10:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That shutout was in a game where Winnipeg was thrashed by our defense all game and only had 24 saves. I am a big Nemo fan but he has been very off recently. Bad positioning alone was worth three goals against Minnesota.

by b0tch on Jan 22, 2012 12:29 AM PST up reply actions  

He has not been sharp. At all.

by psantangeli on Jan 21, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He needs rest, and how the Sharks Schedule looks in the up coming months are going to be tough.

Go Big or Go Home

by ChangoT on Jan 21, 2012 11:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I was about to come here to concur

But then I’m watching the replay of the Hawks-Predators game on TV right now and just saw Corey Crawford give up a goal from center ice. So yeah, it could definitely be worse.

I really do hope we see more of Greiss going forward, though.

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by Timorous Me on Jan 22, 2012 12:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Crawford=new Toskala?

by JBarrow on Jan 22, 2012 10:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Niemi has been a bit off his game during this recent stretch, Minn was far and away his worst game…but here’s the thing w/ Nemo that fans really need to remember – he is NOT an elite goalie (he’s also not paid like one), he will steal a game here or there, he may lose you a game or two during the season but a majority of the time he will give the team a chance to win.

I’m sure he probably wants the 4th goal back last night (what the hell was Zus doing checking air right in front of the net?) but the other 3 goals last night weren’t on him.

He needs good defense in front of him and the D has been quite porous lately.

There are a LOT of San Jose fans that really hate Niemi and are convinced that Greiss is the better goalie goalie for some reason – it’s kind of irrational.

Anyway, I’m hoping this 6 day break will give him an opportunity to work with Schwab to correct some of the issues he’s been having recently.

by milanahalek on Jan 22, 2012 7:14 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sure! Which ones in particular are you having trouble with? The head-to-head chances chart enlarges when you click on it BTW.

by The Neutral on Jan 21, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If you made that teal a shade lighter

it would help a bit.

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by Soloact on Jan 21, 2012 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

To distract you guys from the present...

I can’t help but feel Hodgson vs Couture is going to be a mainstay of ou divisions/conference in a few years.

(Assuming both GMs don’t go stupid and make a dumb trade.)

by Wisp on Jan 21, 2012 11:33 PM PST reply actions  

lol

I live in Vancouver and I can definitely tell you, his popularity here is huge. I have a friend who loves Hodgson to death lol and I always remind her Hodgson is just a poor mans Logan Couture haha, and honestly I do really see some resemblance in their careers they were both drafted quite high and didn’t exactly crack the league right away, had people screaming bust for years and really came through in the end, obviously Logan has showed no signs of slowing down in his sophomore season, but I do think they will have quite comparable careers down the line.

by RZ39 on Jan 22, 2012 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

There you go

hype it up, maybe we can out-hype the Ovechkin-Crosby thing and bring some NHL attention to the West Coast for a change.

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by Soloact on Jan 22, 2012 12:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The 45th Game

A disappointing loss.

Game 45 this season: loss 3-4 at Vanc (1-day-off-game)
Game 45 last season: loss 2-5 vs Edm (the last game of the losing streak)
at 45 games this season: 26-14-5 / 57 pts, 129 GF – 108 GA
at 45 games last season: 21-19-5 / 47 pts, 123 GF – 127 GA
Next 10 games, games 46-55 last season: 9-0-1 (can this season’s Sharks keep up with that pace?)
Going: W, W, SOW, W, SOL, W, W, W, W, W

Next up, at Edm on Monday, and Calg on Tuesday, then a six-day break.
Sharks remain on top of the Pacific Division, by 9, but drop to 3rd in the West, in the Potential Points Standings, behind StL (by 3) & Det (by 2).

These, and the rest of the January Sharkstistics have been updated.

Sharks, time to fix your ongoing problems. You have to work harder now to beat last season’s pace. Skoar moar gpalz, they’ll win games for you!
“Something’s gotta give.” —Drew Remenda, mumbled under his breath during the game against Ott.

If you mention ending your life, or show signs of self-harm, I will take you seriously!
"Take a deep breath sometimes, a break, and play some hockey. Hockey is a great way to take a pause from day-to-day hard work." -- Lt Gen. D.H. Huntoon Jr. (paraphrased)
"He doesn't miss many of those!" --Randy Hahn
"Something's gotta give." --Drew Remenda

by Soloact on Jan 22, 2012 12:15 AM PST reply actions  

I’d be fine if they went 9-0-1 again. I’d be more fine if they went 10-0-0, though. Actually, just give them the Stanley Cup now, that would make me pretty happy.

by JBarrow on Jan 22, 2012 10:26 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

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